Chalkhills Digest Volume 9, Issue 25
Date: Tuesday, 20 May 2003
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 25
Tuesday, 20 May 2003
Topics:
RE: Parachuting in from Lurkersville
Re:al Barn
A quick googlism on XTC
Nature's Milk
Embarrassing records...
For exchange
the new pornographers
MORE for exchange!
Re: embarassing cds...
Air Supply, Carly Simon
CDese?
Nicholson's original miscellany
Happily stupid ...
Alright, i'll bite....
I've got dibs on San Francisco
Instant Tunes: Marketing Bootlegs
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:16:39 -0700 From: "Kerry Chicoine" <KChicoine@whitehat.com> Subject: RE: Parachuting in from Lurkersville Message-ID: <000f01c31c01$346e6160$501a75ce@mailorder.com> Hi, don't mind me as I parachute in from Lurkersville to post: Amy <Jxnsmom@aol.com> wrote: > Boy, the kids HATED it when I used to bring those to school > on rainy days to play in the gym at indoor recess. Funny! When I was in 6th grade I had a shop teacher that let us bring in albums on a rotating basis; being an ELP freak, I spent my share of afternoons torturing my classmates by playing, say, side 3 of "Welcome Back My Friends To The Album Title That Never Ends, Ladies and Gentlemen Emerson Lake and Palmer" or side 1 of "Tarkus" or even the Carl Palmer side of "Works Volume 1". Sigh; to this day, most of my friends *still* can't stand it when I go on one of my ELP listening binges. John Relph <relph@sgi.com> wrote: > I've been playing the Banana Splits Theme as a mandolin > tune (in the style of traditional fiddle tunes). I am so delighted to be a part of this odd, eclectic cast of weirdos. John, you *are* an odd sort, aren't you? :) > I completely stumped a friend Using an axe, I presume? Washing my hair of this whole mess, kErrY kOMpOsT www.mp3.com/kompost PS Hi Dave from AMMK!
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 01:20:07 +0200 From: "hans stromberg" <hansstromberg@hotmail.com> Subject: Re:al Barn Message-ID: <Law15-F92RDbenuWvR200020854@hotmail.com> Chris Lee wrote: >>well i don't post very often but the new albarn album is well....stunning<< Delurking: One-two-tree-four: And I agree. Only heard one song, but that one was ... stunning. But there's more to lay your ears on: The "Black Foliage" album from 1998 by Olivia Tremor Control is like to experience The Dukes for the first time, but more mellow, laid back and ... slower. Awesome. And also with Will Cullen Hart at the controls: Circulatory Systems selftitled album (released last year on Cloud Recordings). The one and only chorus (and there are no verses) in "Forever": "We will live forever and you know it's true" - is real magic! To me, this last song is a one minute piece of music of which i've never heard anything like before. And the opening of the album, "Yesterday's World" - Just open your window and let it all out! Turn it on! Also with their roots in The Elephant Six collective: The Neutral Milk Hotel (or: Jeff Mangum). If i were to recommend one album recorded the last five years in the genre of pop/punk, i would choose "In The Aeroplane over The Sea". And "how strange it is to be anything at all!" Hans "We thought we'd base our civilization upon yours" Stromberg from The North Pole.
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 06:43:51 +0700 From: "TOM !" <thomyates@hotmail.com> Subject: A quick googlism on XTC Message-ID: <BAY1-F157PefLJGWSa100012118@hotmail.com> Slight editing for repitition... Googlism for: xtc xtc is wrong xtc ist bestimmt xtc is nrg xtc is arguably led by andy partridge xtc is the display object xtc is bad stuff xtc is embedded in the greek word ek xtc is 3 xtc is een drug die vooral in het weekend en op feesten xtc is based on creamware's scope technology xtc is a unix xtc is for you xtc is an internet worm that spreads via e xtc is still at the top of its game xtc is al bijna 100 jaar bekend xtc is the ability to solve for homogeneous equilibria and then do a ``turing'' stability analysis on the resulting rest state xtc is the ideal addition to any vst xtc is also the blueprint for a whole host of britpop bands xtc is mdma xtc is a british rock group that has been around since the late 1970's xtc is great band for obsessive fanatics xtc is a variation on the pulsar theme xtc is er in tweehonderd smaken xtc is a tight braid consisting of 16 individual strands of dupont's dacron polyester plied over "para xtc is well xtc is the current koth with around 922 points out of 1320 xtc is enjoying xtc is a carefully composed combination of herbs xtc is a safe and natural alternative to chemical xtc xtc is met 40 procent gedaald xtc is not prolific xtc is good xtc is producing? i find that very hard to believe xtc is profiled in extended playhouse #11 xtc is one of my favorite bands and i had been waiting patiently as the next fan for them to release their next album xtc is known as a relatively safe recreational drug xtc is massively influential and truly important xtc is 24 xtc is the only band worthy of the title "the next beatles xtc is less a compliment to full xtc is andy's band and xtc is the latest drug scaring the pants xtc is like lsd without the hallucinations xtc is an email worm xtc is one of the hottest bands around performing music from artist such as sheryl crow xtc is soooo much fun xtc is the most cost xtc is verboden xtc is gestopt xtc is an extreme xtc is all about xtc is indeed set for a reversal and a significant move higher xtc is a completely new library xtc is another one of those bands that i have heard of as pop for prog fans Peace, Tom p.s. I love "10 New Songs" by Leonard Cohen.....mmmmmm like a deep rich bittersweet chocolate..
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 01:11:16 +0000 From: "Calvin Goodale" <zip_up@hotmail.com> Subject: Nature's Milk Message-ID: <Law8-F8444AG6bIvdeC00020214@hotmail.com> This is a hilarious site run by a huge XTC fan: www.naturesmilk.blogspot.com -Declan
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 14:32:26 +0530 From: "Sughosh Varadarajan" <aqualung@hotpop.com> Subject: Embarrassing records... Message-ID: <000701c31c53$0fb02050$1a00a8c0@internal.directi.com> Hallo chalkfolk! I've been reading everyone's posts one this rather interesting thread for a while, and I find that a lot of the stuff people have mentioned sit quite pretty in my collection and will elicit no embarrassment whatsoever from me! I have absolutely no problems with ABBA, and I really don't find them all that silly...in fact I'm often annoyed at the way they are so conveniently placed along with the likes of Boney M (eeks!) and the rest of the disco brigade. I think Benny & Bjorn were one of the finest songwriting pairs ever, and nothing needs to be said about the girls' vocal talents. Okay, so they don't write about things that are likely to shake the earth. Big deal. But they're still one of the greatest pop groups of all time, IMO. Bread is another band I don't have any problems with. Own "On the waters" and "The Best of Bread Vol2" on vinyl and I think they too had some finely crafted pop songs, cheesy though they may be. Ditto Neil Diamond. I've got his "Moods" LP which Rolling Stone Record Guide gives the lowest possible rating, but I quite enjoy it, and I think practically everything he did till around 1972 was very very good. Moody Blues...wellll yes I'll admit I'm getting a wee bit bored of them.....but I still enjoy Seventh sojourn and Days of future passed a lot (got em both on vinyl)...will probably sell my copy of Octave one o these days if I can find a taker, though (and that's a BIG if!). Oh, and I LOVE the Bee Gees' "Odessa"! Probably the only album by them that I can listen to without cringing.. (:-) I got rid of all my Cliff Richard LPs some years ago though..used to own Heaven alone knows how many albums by him....even had stuff like "Green light"..gawsh I was a real dyed-in-the-wool Cliff fan at 16! Anyways I don't think there's any stuff in my collection today that I'd be genuinely *embarrassed*..probably just stuff that I can't relate to much anymore...like when I was on this rock'n'roll revival trip and bought everything I could lay my hands on by Shakin' Stevens (:-) Used to like REO Speedwagon a good bit too...still have "Life as we know it" and "The earth, a small man, his dog and a chicken", on, funnily enough, reel-to-reel tape ( I used to trip out on listening to the stuff on spools so I taped it off from the original cassettes...got rid of the cassettes ages ago but the reels remain) Other 80's "embarrassments" might include Baltimora's "Living in the background" LP...(hehe anyone remember this dude at all? He of the Tarzan imitations and all...) and the God-awful "Can't wait to see the movie" by Roger Daltrey (sheesh! Was I EVER that crazy a fan of the Who? *shudder*) Lots more I can think of I'm sure...but I'll stop here for now.. Cheers all Sughosh. (Now in eager anticipation of Billy Bragg's Talking with the taxman about poetry CD...oh dear Lord,please make it soon...!)
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 15:39:51 +0100 From: "Belinda" <b.blanchard@btinternet.com> Subject: For exchange Message-ID: <004401c31c82$2d184f80$613929d9@btopenworld.com> Hi all from London This is one of the hardest emails I've ever had to write. Basically, I am getting rid of heaps of XTC and X-Files stuff. Yep, I did A to W no problems! Baaaayyyyysically, I am minimising my life and possessions. I am getting rid of loads of stuff. It's been sooo wonderful so far! I have very little room and I know that if and when I get old I may either have more space, or the want to sit and look at stuff I've had all my life, but my decision has been made. As a keen motorcyclist I like to think I'll be on the road for ever and travelling with the laptop in one pannier and spare underwear and jeans in the other! What I can't bear to part with are any of my vinyl albums or CDs though. Curious, eh?! I know it is illegal to sell the videos that I have recorded X-Files and XTC stuff on. So I am giving those away. Here's what I want to get rid of: X-Files - every single bloody episode on VHS up to end of eighth series, each episode all documented on the videos with the cut outs from Radio Times (for the USA readers, it's a TV mag!). I also have about 10 pre-recorded tapes I also bought of the special double episodes. I have several books on X-Files, and heaps of official X-Files magazines. I know, I know... XTC. I have Limelights (sorry, Mark) and Little Express Magazines, videos (I'm keeping two!) and taped interviews. The one video I am keeping has pretty much to my knowledge every video they ever made so I would make a copy of that for you. If you know of anyone who wants the X-Files stuff, please tell them to contact me but only if they want everything and can come collect it all (I'm in South East London). Now, this bit is important. I am getting rid of ALL the X-Files stuff altogether in one lot, and ALL (except 2 vids and ALL albums) of the XTC stuff together in another one lot. I am not into splitting stuff up for different people. You take it all or nothing at all! Here's what I want in exchange. An experience. I don't want money. I want an experience. Here's some frinstances. You may own a microlite, and want to take me for a flight. You may have a nice little villa or pad somewhere in south of France, or Scotland, or Georgia USA, and can let me and my partner David stay for a week rent free. You may live in New England and have a 500cc motorcycle you could lend me for my 2 month trip from New England to Florida and back I plan to take in 2008. You may be a painter and decorator in London and would be willing to strip the walls of two rooms in my flat and patch them and paint them! You may own a jet, and would be willing to take me for a half hour ride. Yes I know it would cost you lots but if you're the owner of a jet you can afford it! You may live in London, and be willing to have my cat Spacey stay safely in your home for a few weeks at a time, each year when we go on holidays, for the rest of Spacey's natural life! (She is a home cat and HATES the outdoors and is only 3!) Ahhh, remember in 2008 you may have to have her for 2 months! Get the picture? Yeah I hear you all "DREAM ON BELINDA!" It's worth a shot. And don't imagine for one second I am only after the most exotic or exciting offer. The walls do need some attention... Sorry for the long posting. Oh - and having just gone through my music, I would die if anyone knew I had an Osmonds album. No, wait, I just played it, it's the religious one and was actually rather good with "Let Me In" on it. Ummmmmm - nope, I am ashamed of nothing, but when you come and pick up all my X-Files stuff or all my XTC stuff (minus albums and two vids!!!) you may care to disagree and post on here what you found hilarious... Please address all serious offers only to: belinda.blanchard@btinternet.com and NOT the b.blanchard address. Thanks! WHAT HAVE I DONE!!!!!!!!!!
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 11:35:23 EDT From: GnXn282@aol.com Subject: the new pornographers Message-ID: <10.304cced1.2bf7b0bb@aol.com> Hello folks, short time reader/third time poster here: I don't think I've read much chatter about these guys here at Chalkhills, but The New Pornographers are definitely one of the finer quirk/pop bands these days. I'd say they're in the same vein as the Jellyfish, XTC, and, more recently, Hot Hot Heat, so you might want to check them out. Their new album "The Electric Version" is pretty flippin' good. This sounds like a horrible pr job, doesn't it? XTC-related material: Does anyone know what the new album is going to sound like? Are they still on their electric Wasp Star kick or will it be more of a Apple Venus/Nonsuch/Skylarking affair? Someone here has to know! -Justin L. Abrotsky (www.recroommagazine.com)
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 17:17:01 +0100 From: "Belinda" <b.blanchard@btinternet.com> Subject: MORE for exchange! Message-ID: <006901c31c8f$bfdae280$613929d9@btopenworld.com> Hi again Also included in my offer re. XTC stuff in the above(?) email, is a big baggy white Dukes Sweatshirt, and a Yellow Tshirt from the 1989 Manchester Convention. The sweatshirt is just stoopidly big and I don't wear sweatshirts, and the Tshirt - well, yellow really isn't *me*! Belinda.blanchard@btinternet.com
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 23:35:33 -0300 From: Paulo X <paulox@onda.com.br> Subject: Re: embarassing cds... Message-ID: <l03130300baec9f615c63@[200.195.178.84]> Well, I have a handful of embarassing records in my collection: THE BEST OF A Flock of Seagulls FRIEND OR FOE - Adam Ant Mike Oldfield's TUBULAR BELLS, OMMADAWN and INCANTATIONS Some Disco compilations a former girlfriend of mine gave me THE BEST OF Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark Paulo, who doesn't think Sergio Mendes represents *real* Brazilian music... "Anyone can get old. All you have to do is live long enough." -- Grouch Marx
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Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:03:44 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net>
Subject: Air Supply, Carly Simon
Message-ID: <BAECEEE0.8E2B%cauldron@together.net>
on 5/16/03 1:13 PM, blah blah blah:
> What I absolutely don't get, though, are a few artists that are sometimes
> named here in disregard and whom I believe just don't deserve the rap. Both
> Chris "I'm a Secret Air Supply Fan But I'm Going To Try To Smokescreen You
> On It Every Chance I Get, Which Is About 5 Time A Year" Coolidge and Molly
> mentioned Carly Simon in a condescending or apologizing way in recent posts.
> I'll never understand this. To me, she writes very adult lyrics about
> interesting topics, has a good sense of melody and arrangement (not so good
> on the middle eights, though), has now found the perfect producer and the
> perfect band, an produced a couple of my favorite albums of the past years
> ("Have You Seen Me Lately", "Letters Never Sent"). They're not
> *super-great*, no, but they're very good and certainly not embarrassing, not
> to me, anyway. As with her ex-husband, James Taylor (the Beatles' first
> Apple signing -- but you knew that), she seems to be "placed in a certain
> drawer" as the Germans say, a drawer full of inferior and embarrassing
> artists. I just don't get it, I would never put them there.
My wife is the Air Supply fan in this family, she has every single one of
their albums, including a couple of early Australian imports and Russell
Hitchcock's solo album. In the 80's I was one of those people who
practically ran screaming from the room when an Air Supply song was playing.
By the time I met my wife, though, they weren't having hits anymore, and I
married her for her other personal qualities, not her taste in music. I even
took her to see Air Supply live when they played a couple of hours drive
from us a few years ago. Is that love, or what? They were surprisingly good
live, even the hits were tolerable, and there were several songs off the new
album they were promoting(that I saw go straight to the bargain bins a few
months later) that were actually quite good, kind of like The Moody Blues on
a good day; more Ray Thomas or Mike Pinder than Justin Hayward. They're
still not my cup of tea, but they still have a career because like XTC they
have a genuine love and respect for their fans, and their serious fans repay
them with their loyalty. I gotta respect them for that.
Incidentally, my wife's a Carly Simon fan too, I have a lot of respect for
Carly as a person(she also lives down the street from my uncle in Martha's
Vineyard, he's done some contracting design work for her); as a songwriter I
find her hit and miss. Her most interesting albums for me have been her
least successful, such as Spy from the late 70's and the more recent Letters
Never Sent. Again, can't say I'm a fan, but it could be worse, my wife could
have been an 80's hair metal fan.
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 05:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Bernhardt <beat_town@yahoo.com> Subject: CDese? Message-ID: <20030518122413.21895.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com> Hi: Like the embarrassing record thread, so will throw mine into the virtual ring before heading off on a week's holiday on the beaches of the Outer Banks of North Carolina. Ah.... First off, as JD pointed out, having Harrison Sherwood at your house perusing your music collection is no big thing. He can't be pleased no matter what -- Lord knows how I've tried -- so I've given up buying or hiding the appropriate CDs. *However*, having Dom Lawson look over your CDs can be an intimidating experience, let me tell you. I mean, how much Gorelord, Cardiacs, Public Enemy, and Thurston Lava Tube is enough? That said, here are the CDs I'm compelled to explain or less than thrilled about: -- Aerosmith: Pump. I know. But it sometimes satisfies the needs of my inner 14-year-old. -- Anita Baker: Rapture. I'm less than thrilled my her later efforts, but this one is a classic "little girl with a big voice" debut. Great songs. -- Deee-Lite: World Clique. Hey, Bootsy plays bass on it. Shut up. -- Eagles: Hotel California. The album I learned to play drums along to. -- Extreme: Pronograffiti. I should probably get rid of this one, come to think of it. But I liked it at the time. -- Don Henley: Building the Perfect Beast. Pretty fucking good LA pop, if you ask me. I know Don doesn't have a lot of musical range, but this is probably his best album. -- Janet Jackson: Control. Produced by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. And Janet's tits were still her own. -- Billy Joel: Turnstiles. Classic pop album, his best, IMO. Not a bad song on there. -- Grace Jones: All her albums recorded in Jamaica with a stunning band that included, among others, Sly and Robbie. "Pull Up to the Bumper" is that rarest of all things -- a disco song with musical value and integrity. Check out the percussion! Listen to it while driving, and keep from honking your horn. I dare you. -- Brian May: Back to the Light. First solo record, I believe. I should think about getting rid of it. I love him and his playing, but this ain't early-Queen quality. -- Prince: Many, many albums. (Actually, I'm proud of my Prince and TAFKAP -- I mention it because someone else had mentioned they were embarrassed by owning albums by His Royal Badness. Don't be!) -- Queen: First four albums, plus Live at the BBC (which covers that early era). Play "Stone Cold Crazy" or "Ogre Battle" at top volume and keep yourself from hitting your head against something hard. I defy you. -- Sheila E: Sex Cymbal. I saw her play drums (in four-inch stilletto heels!)w/Prince on his Lovesexy tour. I've wanted to bear her children ever since. -- Spin Doctors: Pocket Full of Kryptonite. Was initially impressed by Aaron Comess' drumming, but the album hasn't aged well, I must admit. -- The Wizard of Oz: Soundtrack. Full of beautiful melodies, great lyrics, and inventive arrangements. Loved by Andy Partridge as much as it is by me. 'nuff said. -Todd "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." --Thomas Jefferson, Third U.S. president, architect, and author (1743-1826)
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:55:18 +0100 From: "Nicholson, Gary" <gnicholson@britannica.co.uk> Subject: Nicholson's original miscellany Message-ID: <645D223258C17F4EB9F92F239111E8BF063D6D@exc050uk.uk.britannica.net> 1. Kevin Wollenweber mentions "Summer" in his posting of 14th May. In the UK this year, summer was on Friday 18th April. 2. Contrary to my last posting, Swindon is not the worst town in the UK. Luton, Harlow, Milton Keynes, Crawley, Andover and Basingstoke are all representative of places where you'd be quite happy to desecrate the graves of the town planners and architects of the time. 3. In the Black Boy pub in Winchester, the landlord uses Rolf Harris's version of 'Stairway to Heaven' to drive people out at closing time. Unfortunately for him, most people like it. I don't necessarily want to be driven out of the pub but would be happy to receive suggestions of what would make you want to sup up and retire to your honourable couch. Trout Mask Replica sounds as if it might do the trick. 4. Are XTC on strike again? Gary Nicholson. Pretending to do some work. South of the river. About half a mile from the Tower of London - Bermondsey actually.
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:37:24 +0200 From: "hans stromberg" <hansstromberg@hotmail.com> Subject: Happily stupid ... Message-ID: <Law15-F215FrUajyZz00003132b@hotmail.com> ... am I: Chris Lee wrote: >>well i don't post very often but the new albarn album is well....stunning<< and I posted yesterday and said that I agreed, when I actually referred to the wrong album; I meant Grahan Coxon's new solo album "The Sky bis to high", not Blur's whatever it is. Sorry! Only heard one song in my local record shop but that was ... yeah, stunning! Hans Stromberg, The North Pole
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 13:55:26 +0000 From: "don device" <ddevice@hotmail.com> Subject: Alright, i'll bite.... Message-ID: <Sea2-F41jWPzTkmz2BR0001cf40@hotmail.com> greetings all, OK, i've cracked and i'll add my shameful Cds to the ever-growing chalk-pile... i must admit that there's nothing i'd hide from any chalkhillians (we seem to have a terrifyingly diverse range of tastes, and to be, on the whole, a rather tolerant bunch) but there are some CDs i've relegated to my opaque CD wallet... such as Modern English: I melt with you, and 120 minutes MTV CD (with 'dear god' on it though!) for those of you who have been kind enough to listen and remark upon my music, you may be interested to know that one of the recent proliferation of XTC cover bands includes an old band-mate of mine, Evan Urkofsy who played for a while in 'devices'... I've heard some rough MP3s which sounded quite promising... where's the XTC cover band here in Paris though? device out don device "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 08:58:12 -0700 From: "Pastula Aaron" <pastula12@hotmail.com> Subject: I've got dibs on San Francisco Message-ID: <BAY7-F90QxzmWecm9t00003629f@hotmail.com> So, England, New York, LA, Sacramento and wherever Chris Vreeland is (Texas, I think?) now have XTC tribute bands in the works, or already in the performing stages. Before this gets out of hand, I want to lay my claim on San Francisco, okay?!? Like seemingly everyone else, I've been wanting to do this for years, and since mid January, I, bass player/vocalist being of sound mind and body, have been joining forces with a drummer and guitarist of considerable talent to pull off the latest trend in blatant hero worship. We expect to be playing in the city within the next few weeks (discussions with a club rep are in the final stages); I think what's kind of cool about our group is we're attempting to pull off the songs as a trio, using multiple instruments, a few sampling devices (maybe), and a staggeringly cool 6/12-string doubleneck that makes us look like a bitchin' third-rate Genesis. Obviously, in gleefully breaking the rules like this we are making a few changes in arrangements and tayloring them a little to our necessary liking, but that's part of the fun, don't you think? Will post again as performance dates are solidified, so those in the Bay Area can join in the fun, or come to critique and scorn. But I think it's pretty cool that so many people are doing this. Yeah... As you were... Aaron.
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 06:54:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Bernhardt <beat_town@yahoo.com> Subject: Instant Tunes: Marketing Bootlegs Message-ID: <20030520135437.42503.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Hi: Just found out about a very interesting article on bootlegs, the Internet, and the future of marketing live recordings. Of course, Clear Channel heads its ugly rear in that future. One more reason to get rid of the Idiot Son of an Asshole in 2004. http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/music/mmx-0305180395may18.story -Todd "He that wrestles with us strengthens our nerves, and sharpens our skill. Our antagonist is our helper." --Edmund Burke, statesman and writer (1729-1797)
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