Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 26 Friday, 23 May 2003 Topics: Oranges & Lemons - Remastered CD in Mini-LP sleeve Re: Embarrassing records... You can keep the Costa Brava... ...because the eyes look like boobies, duh clearing the room Embarrassing? Not. Shameful (not!) albums To Todd Bernhardt Minneapolis, Beer, XTC & the Residents? Even Harrison Sherwood reunited Dukes embarrassing records...cont'd What should I see in Britain? Administrivia: To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is compiled with Digest 3.7d (John Relph <relph@tmbg.org>). When we get to England / Will we know when we've arrived?
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:48:36 -0400 From: Andisheh Nouraee <andy@andy2000.org> Subject: Oranges & Lemons - Remastered CD in Mini-LP sleeve Message-ID: <84B34FE0-8ADA-11D7-882A-0030656DE446@andy2000.org> Hey all, XTC junky that I am, I've been slowly amassing the Japanese mini-LP reissues. I recently picked up Oranges & Lemons and noticed some odd things during King For A Day -- there's a percussive instrument going "tat-ta-tat" on the remastered version that is so much more prominent compared to the old CD that it sounds more like a different mix. Fueling that suspicion, some of the backing vocals seem to be missing as well. One of the oft-touted joys of quality remasters if that you can hear details that you previously missed. In this case though, I'm wondering if they made a mistake and remastered off the wrong mix. Any thoughts or comments? *** Andisheh Nouraee http://www.andy2000.org
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:48:57 -0400 (EDT) From: John Relph <relph@sgi.com> Subject: Re: Embarrassing records... Message-ID: <10305201148.ZM14981@mtv-vpn-hw-relph-1.corp.sgi.com> On 17 May 2003 "Sughosh Varadarajan" <aqualung@hotpop.com> wrote: > >(Now in eager anticipation of Billy Bragg's Talking with the taxman about >poetry CD...oh dear Lord,please make it soon...!) What do you mean? I've had this CD for years... But I forgot one record that makes some people cringe at its very mention: John Denver's "Take Me To Tomorrow". I love that record... -- John NP: Popdefect: Popdefect
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 17:12:11 +0100 (BST) From: Dom Lawson <britishsteel666@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: You can keep the Costa Brava... Message-ID: <20030520161211.68635.qmail@web40507.mail.yahoo.com> Stalkers, My my...we are a disgraceful bunch of geekly nerdingtons, aren't we? And, naturally enough, I include myself in this regrettable sub-species...Christ, if you could browse through my record collection (and you can't, incidentally) many of you would recoil in horror. Which, I guess, is all part of the fun. Anyway, in response to Mr. Burnt-Arse's pretty impressive atrocity exhibition, I proffer my own list of albums-wot-I'd-rather-not-fess-up-to...in fact, I should really keep quiet. Ho hum. Poison - Look What The Cat Dragged In...yes, they do all look like (very ugly) ladies on the cover. And no, I didn't fancy any of them. Honestly. Cough. F**king dreadful sack of rancid aural poop, mind... Haircut 100 - Pelican West...not just the album, but the first four singles too...on bleedin' twelve-inch vinyl. Christ, if only I'd got out more, I might have ended up without this ridiculous haircut...ah well...but seriously, the chunky sweaters! The annoying conga player! The twat with the piccolo sax! A song called 'Lemon Fire Brigade'...AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!! (And, of course, I genuinely think it's a good album...sob...) Magnum - On A Storyteller's Night...I sincerely adore this album. What is wrong with me??? I've got a 3 CD box set of Magnum stuff, too. I like ELO. I like ELP. I like Jethro cocking Tull. I'm a fool. Marillion - VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING! EVER! Oh yes...not just the first four Fish-fronted albums that most people secretly (or openly, in my case) like...but nearly all the albums since, with that Steve Hogarth fella...even I know that some of it sounds like 80s Genesis...AND I STILL LISTEN TO IT. REGULARLY!!!! Somebody shoot me. Please. Adam Ant - Manners & Physique...now I take exception to the git who cited 'Friend Or Foe' as an embarrassing album. It's ace, for Marco's sake! What about 'Here Comes The Grump'? 'Made Of Money'? 'Place In The COuntry'? Awesome stuff...by the time he made this album, however, Stuart Goddard's future mentalism was beginning to creep into view. OK, so he wasn't wandering into pubs in London dressed as a cowboy before threatening anyone who took the piss with a starting pistol (which, fact fans, he claimed was an antique gun used by his father in the Korean war...er, right!)...but he was writing songs like 'Rough Stuff'. I'm no stranger to the pleasures of pinkdom...purely for research, you understand...but that song is gayer than a Bronski Beat convention. Lawnmower Deth - 3 ALBUMS! Now this might not mean much to a lot of you, but back in the early days of the British death metal scene (bear with me!) there were quite a few bands peddling what I can only describe as 'comedycore'...i.e. short, fast, Dickies-meets-Slayer kinda stuff with juvenile lyrics and songs called things like 'Satan's Trampoline'. Ho ho? No no! Lawnmower Deth were funny for all of, what, ten seconds? Bastards...I'm keeping 'em, though. Wouldn't want to deplete my (nearly complete) Earache Records collection...geek on, brothers! Finally (and this list is only the tip of a frankly horrific iceberg so just imagine the shit I left out) I'd like to recommend 'Double Bubble' by enduring cock-a-knee beard-sporters CHAS N' DAVE. I don't suppose America ever succumbed to the charms of these aesthetically-ravaged knees-up merchants, but if you want an argument with your better half - one of those that ends with him/her using the phrase 'I'm going to stab you with this garden fork in ten seconds, you complete arse!' - then try playing this two hour feast of pony & trap (and Tom Tit) really loud when PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SLEEP! ARE YOU PISSED AGAIN? HOW MANY PINTS HAVE YOU HAD YOU INCONSIDERATE PIECE OF...you get the idea. Rabbit rabbit rabbit rabbit bunny bunny bunny bunny.... Right, I'm off to listen to Twisted Sister at top volume until my heavily pregnant missus smashes my head open with the kettle. Salut! Dom
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:54:31 -0400 From: "Duncan Watt" <dwatt@fastestmanintheworld.com> Subject: ...because the eyes look like boobies, duh Message-ID: <200305201654.h4KGsVUN2533493@els.sgi.com> I'm typin' this whilst wearing my hot new Ape House t-shirt (which I assume was designed by AP, correct me if'n I'm full of cobblers) which you can find here: http://www.ape.uk.net/acatalog/T__Shirts.html ... and it makes me even *better lookin'* than what I already am! Your Pal Duncan
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 13:06:48 -0500 From: "Kevin Brunkhorst" <kbrunkhorst@charter.net> Subject: clearing the room Message-ID: <004c01c31efa$952fc920$4d397044@brunkhorst> Gary Nicholson writes: In the Black Boy pub in Winchester, the landlord uses Rolf Harris's version of 'Stairway to Heaven' to drive people out at closing time. Unfortunately for him, most people like it. I don't necessarily want to be driven out of the pub but would be happy to receive suggestions of what would make you want to sup up and retire to your honourable couch. Trout Mask Replica sounds as if it might do the trick. Gary: Philosophy Of The World by The Shaggs is very effective when used against 'normal' people. Trust me. Kevin
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 15:27:19 -0400 From: "Ira Lieman" <ira@theliemans.com> Subject: Embarrassing? Not. Message-ID: <NHBBJMJLOMJCKHFGECIPAELDCAAA.ira@theliemans.com> Chalkfolk, Back from lurking ... it's been a while. Embarrassing records? For me? I don't think I have anything I wouldn't want people to see ... it's all a product of the time I had money to spend on such stuff. :) Two years without a full-time paying gig does that to people. I almost started selling some of them over on E-bay...However, the XTC stuff takes center stage. And the paying gig is writing the offer letter as we speak. Keep your fingers crossed. Paulo X opined... >Well, I have a handful of embarassing records in my collection: >Mike Oldfield's TUBULAR BELLS, OMMADAWN and INCANTATIONS Uh oh ... BEN! Get involved in this discussion! Paulo wants to incur your wrath! -ira
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Carter <steiffbearlover@yahoo.com> Subject: Shameful (not!) albums Message-ID: <20030521143701.24371.qmail@web40405.mail.yahoo.com> I'm sorry but I have you ALL beat in this particular subject. You were, I believe, talking about albums you'd be ashamed for your friends at an XTC party to see? Well, I personally am NOT ashamed of either of these but I just KNOW they'll bring some healthy groans from someone on the list. I have Don Johnson's "Heartbeat" AND Philip Michael Thomas "Living The Book Of My Life"! (Now, for those who don't know, these were the "Miami Vice" guys in the '80s ... and this gal lived and breathed "Miami Vice" every Friday night.) I even have the PMT album on CASSETTE! It'll be worth millions on eBay one day and you'll all be green with envy, I'm tellin' ya! When it sells for big bucks, I'll contribute 1/4 to the statue of XTC that I'm sure Swindon will erect once they're all dead. *G* Laura Carter Reidsville NC USA
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 07:46:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Carter <steiffbearlover@yahoo.com> Subject: To Todd Bernhardt Message-ID: <20030521144629.87556.qmail@web40411.mail.yahoo.com> Have a great time at the Outer Banks! I'm from there originally and MISS HOME! Thinking of driving down the beach road (otherwise known as 158) gazing at the ocean while listening to "Seagulls Screaming" ... you lucky stiff! Laura Carter Reidsville NC
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 10:51:30 EDT From: XTCGO2@aol.com Subject: Minneapolis, Beer, XTC & the Residents? Message-ID: <144.11df7e3a.2bfcec72@aol.com> Lost my email about getting together in Minneapolis for some Beer's & XTC/Chalkhill talk. Anyone else in the area interested? Of other interest I found a Dukes article where Andy talks about meeting & working with the Residents. I will transcribe it ASAP for all of you Chalkies to read. The Residents are in the process of creating/completing their "One Minute Movies" video's for the entire Commercial album which is what Andy sang his song on!?!?!?! They are taking idea's/direction from fans for each song. I recommended an idea which would involve getting Andy to make a cameo appearance. Here are the lyrics Andy wrote/performed on their album Margaret Freeman Margaret Freeman had a body Unlike any I'd seen It seemed to drip her mental thoughts Like much too warm ice cream One day while she washed the dishes In the nude I saw How her mother's sodden ways Had rubbed her rib cage raw Peace, Love & Todd Is godd! Erich P.S. Todd is playing St. Paul, MN @ the Fitzgerald Theatre on July, 22nd!
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 17:52:33 EDT From: Hbsherwood@aol.com Subject: Even Harrison Sherwood Message-ID: <31.38e10695.2bfd4f21@aol.com> Just spell it right on the checks, kidz. I'm just thrilled as heck that I've earned a rep as an "even" person in these Hallowed Halls, and hereby pledge to try to behave just barely civilly enough to get invited to your parties so I can sneer derisively at your CD collections. A t-shirt I covet declares most righteously, "Your Favorite Band Sucks," and I say that goes double for me. On a related topic, I imagine that most of you do not have the delightful privilege of working in a network environment dominated by the Apple Macintosh, as I do, and so you will not have yet noticed a particularly fun aspect of the new iTunes client. (A Windoze version is due out by year's end, so you Dark Siders can anticipate the fun.) Yes, they've done a grand job of making a dandy-smooth e-commerce experience (although I don't see it making much headway in the matter of getting payments directly to artists -- it's still the same-old rapacious Uncle Moneybags record companies making profit off the surplus value of the exploited artist). And the thing *works* sleekly, although one could wish that the content were richer (which in time no doubt it will be -- this is a problem common to all pay Net services). No, the thing that's really amusing about the new iTunes client is the way it works on a network. It's set up so that the instant you install it, you are automatically -- and without being informed -- sharing your music collection with everyone else on the network. You can of course switch this off, and you can choose to show or hide all or parts of your collection, but the default is "Leave My Embarrassing Music Choices Exposed To Every Tom, Dick and Harry on the Company Network Without Telling Me So They Can Snicker At My Lame Taste Behind My Back." So now, to add to the problem of everybody -- "even Harrison Sherwood"! -- ridiculing the Air Supply CDs stashed under the bed before your party, now you've got to hide all those awful MP3's that people send you three years ago ("Hey, check out my brother-in-law's church band doing a bitchen 'Like a Hurricane,' d00d!") that you stashed in your Music folder and forgot about. Honestly, it's a hoot: "Joe Blow? Joe *Blow*'s got Enya's entire flippin' 'Paint the Sky with Stars' best-of comp? OhMyGod! Check it out! Sting's 'Brand New Day'!" Can you *believe* this dillhole?" Way over on the other hand, of course, I just found Digable Planets in the collection of a mousey little code-wench -- very cool -- and Jesus! Dan McNabb's got pretty much everything the Small Faces ever recorded, gonna have to pop into his pod and compliment him on that, I thought that was a Noel Gallagher haircut, turns out it's a Steve Marriott...! Funny thing, that music.... Harrison "Yes, even Harrison Sherwood" Sherwood
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 12:55:58 -0500 From: William D Sherlock <bdsherlock@juno.com> Subject: reunited Dukes Message-ID: <20030522.125559.-16309027.8.bdsherlock@juno.com> Hi all, I first read about the new Dukes track on the xtcenglandsglory Yahoo list and have been anxiously awaiting details, or even a little discussion here on Chalkhills. Wouldn't it be nice to have some actual XTC content for a change. Anyone know what gives with this momentous event? Bill (no lover of Irn Bru) Sherlock They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 06:44:14 -0400 From: bryce blair <bnblues13@comcast.net> Subject: embarrassing records...cont'd Message-ID: <001401c32118$64969df0$c5853144@yourw92p4bhlzg> Hello there...first time poster long time XTC fan from DC area.....love the site. two quick embarrassing albums from the past come to mind.... Pablo Cruise...remember them? and.. Stephen Bishop....hard to listen to now... Theres more than that I'm sure....
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:41:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: What should I see in Britain? Message-ID: <20030523174114.65355.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Hi everyone Sorry about the totally XTC-free post, but oh well. My partner and I are going to Britain in June, and I'm looking for sugestions on what to see. I've been before, but it was over 20 years ago. My partner has never been. We're going to concentrate on London, I have a friend that lives in the suburbs. We're also planning some day trips or a couple of nights elsewhere. We're thinking of going to York, and maybe Edinburgh, although that could change. So, any suggestions? We're looking for the 'don't miss this' places, but also some more funky, off the beaten path type of places. Doesn't have to be XTC related, but don't rule that out. We'll probably not be going out to Swindon, it's impossible to see EVERYTHING in one trip, and my partner really isn't interested in XTC (the fool!). Feel free to respond to this off list, and thanks for your help! Tyler
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