Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 6 Thursday, 30 January 2003 Topics: Two halves make a great hole Gold Word Ribbons Mike Myers appears to like "The Big Express" If you can't beat 'em, join 'em Millions Live? Decent price for Fuzzy Warbles in USA new xtc album? Demon Seed Girdling the XTC globe... (indirect XTC topic): BECKI DIGREGORIO!!!!!!!!! wrapped in grey single available... leckie and lobos love that "Dukes" sound Exactly How Andy Partridge Kicks My Ass Administrivia: To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is compiled with Digest 3.7d (John Relph <relph@tmbg.org>). Here comes President Kill again. Broadcasting from his killing den.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:01:25 EST From: WTDK@aol.com Subject: Two halves make a great hole Message-ID: <bc.33037ea3.2b631fc5@aol.com> I have to agree that the two Fuzzy Warbles make one great demos album. Yes, there are tracks I'd remove but that's going to vary. Some folks love the instrumental stuff (I'm not a big fan of it) and the demos (like them but would have liked to see them released separately -- perhaps call it DEMOstration XTCby Andy Partridge). Then again, there would be that gaping hole that only the bootleg market could fill at too much cash with too little quality. I couple of other favs from last year--I purchased Martin Newell's at the end of the year and think it's a return to form. Not as strong as the remastered re-released Off White Album (Martin's best IMO). What I'd really like to see is a solo effort from Dave Gregory. It doesn't have to consist of originals but, perhaps, some off beat selection of his favorite songs in different arrangements. I'd also love to see him do a tour playing the songs of XTC. He did contribute a big part to their sound (if not their songwriting) and think he has every right to play some of them in a "tribute" environment. After all, Dave Davies did the same thing with his brother Ray's many songs in his solo show. Dave, release it as a live album. I'm sure you could get a number of your friends to appear with you (Colin Moulding might even be interested) at least on the album. Another great moment in rock history.... Pete Townshed's recent bust was a bit of a shock. Perhaps he's telling the truth. It would be nice to believe that. Just curious as to why Colin's Mates didn't make the cut for Cupboards. It would have seemed a natural (then again, it was for Virgin). Perhaps he was saving it for Fuzzy Warbles (until he withdrew ). I'd still ove to see that short little tune released. Now that Andy's opened his closet, I hope we'll get to hear the bulk of the material from Verne and Golden. Hopefully nothing embarrassing leaps out while he isn't looking.... I'm rather surprised that Andy and Colin haven't licensed all the radio programs that have appeared on bootleg and released them. With the improved sound, liner notes, etc., I'm sure that most fans would be willing to pony up the additional $$ (then again, based on some of the complaints about the cost of Fuzzy I could be wrong).
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 05:48:50 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Long <optimismsflames@yahoo.com> Subject: Gold Word Ribbons Message-ID: <20030125134850.58998.qmail@web14910.mail.yahoo.com> Kidz - A few weeks back, Sir John Johns and I shared a few hits from His virtual water-pipe and chatted about all the covers of the Dukes releases - including singles. The conversation can be read in the Dukes section of Optimism's Flames. You've not seen the Dukes section? It's, uh - well, hidden... but it's not well hidden. If you've not found it - here's a hint: track 9 of the Dukes CD anthology - find the image and you've solved half of the puzzle. Love sure keeps a bright house. wesLONG http://www.optimismsflames.com
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:35:37 -0500 From: Jefferson Ogata <ogata@antibozo.net> Subject: Mike Myers appears to like "The Big Express" Message-ID: <200301260535.AAA04594@mx.antibozo.net> Organization: The Antibozo I was just watching James Lipton's "Inside The Actor's Studio", with guest Mike Myers. Myers started talking about a very difficult period in his career, and said it was "like, Jane, get me off this crazy thing -- like train running low on soul coal." Does this expression exist outside XTC lyrics, or is it an Andy original? -- Jefferson Ogata : Internetworker, Antibozo <ogata@antibozo.net> http://www.antibozo.net/ogata/
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 06:22:02 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Bernhardt <beat_town@yahoo.com> Subject: If you can't beat 'em, join 'em Message-ID: <20030127142202.82419.qmail@web41101.mail.yahoo.com> Hi: Interesting story from the Associated Press: "Six retail record chains, hurting from lower music sales, competition from CD burning, online music and large discount stores, are teaming to offer consumers digital music in their stores and over the Internet. The stores have formed a joint venture called Echo that will provide technology for digital music and allow the retailers to offer individual tracks for downloading to portable devices and computers." Because it's an AP story, you can find it lots of places, but here's one: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/5039785.htm -Todd The believer is happy; the doubter is wise. --Hungarian proverb
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:14:29 -0600 From: Chris Vreeland <CVREELAND@austin.rr.com> Subject: Millions Live? Message-ID: <a05210200ba5b4238220f@[24.175.32.185]> Hidy, hillery, doo, Does anybody hereabouts have or know of any recordings of the song Millions performed live? I'd like to know how they ended it, if they ever played it live. Thanks, Chris "Arrange one myself?" Vreeland -- Oh, joy. It's another website. http://chrisvreeland.com
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:32:18 -0500 From: Centerpond@aol.com Subject: Decent price for Fuzzy Warbles in USA Message-ID: <18749B33.67E150A1.0ACBB7EA@aol.com> Hi folks; I just ordered Fuzzy Warbles Vols 1 and 2 and got them for $17.98 each (I believe that's just a hair over 10# according to recent exchange rates). I am a subscriber to Goldmine magazine, and a supplier in Berkeley, California called Mod Lang regularly advertises in that record/CD collector's publication; they just advertised that they now carry FW. Mod Lang's phone number is 1-510-486-1880, and the e-mail address is naomi@modlang.com They also have a website, which is: www.modlang.com I have nothing to do with Mod Lang except to be a happy customer. Happy shopping, Mike
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:25:47 -0500 From: "Danny Phipps" <phipps@schoollink.net> Subject: new xtc album? Message-ID: <000901c2c72c$f942fac0$4b8c04d8@phipps> does anyone know anything about a "new" xtc release coming out on caroline records this year called "music to help you breathe more easily"? it can be found on a list at the following link -- http://www.pauseandplay.com/cdfront.htm just wondering....... /danny
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:04:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Dom Lawson <britishsteel666@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Demon Seed Message-ID: <20030129110404.3649.qmail@web40514.mail.yahoo.com> Hello campers... Happy New Year and all that bollocks. Glad to see a modicum of good sense has returned to the list since the disappearance of the stinky troll...I've been busy as all f**k with work and various other things recently, so apologies to anyone who has missed my razor-sharp wit and pearls of homespun wisdom. Anyway...first things first...I don't know if anyone gives a toss, but the lovely Deborah and myself will become parents for the first time this summer. I promise you all that I will be singing XTC songs in a vague and tuneless manner at the poor mite until full brainwashing has been achieved. Not to mention the Black Sabbath back catalogue... Secondly, and somewhat feebly given my prior announcement...here are my top picks of 2002. Get down the shops, pronto! 1. OPETH - Deliverance/Damnation Two albums from Sweden's finest prog metal combo...the latter will be released in March 2003, but us meeja whores got a sneak preview last year. Glorious, spine-tingling stuff throughout...'Deliverance' is the heavy half of a month-long bout of recording...'Damnation' is the "mellow" section, and will be more than palatable to the sensitive souls among you. If you like a bit of early 70s mellotron mania, with lilting acoustic guitars, beautiful melodies and a hint of prog rock, do not miss out when this hits the racks. Trust me, it's fucking GORGEOUS... 2. PORCUPINE TREE - In Absentia One of the most underrated bands, like, ever! And not just because Steven Wilson (the head honcho) was born in the where I grew up (Hemel Hempstead, fact fans!). This is the band's umpteenth album, and is easily their heaviest to date...there are still plenty of sumptuous melodies, but the OOMPH factor has been multiplied. Thrillingly, Steven Wilson helped to produce the two Opeth albums mentioned above. Blimey. 3. TOM WAITS - Alice / Blood Money Not one, but two fantastic albums from the great man. Tom Waits for no one, baby! 'Nuff said... 4. HATE ETERNAL - King Of All Kings Quite possibly the most brutal record I've ever heard. 35 minutes of blistering blastbeats and savage, neo-demonic vocals. Marvellous stuff. You'd hate it. 5. VARIOUS - Love, Peace & Poetry A fabulous compilation of obscure Brazilian psychedelic music from the late 60s/early 70s...not sure how I ended up hearing this, but it really is wonderful stuff. Dukes fans will dig it, James Brown fans will dig it, overweight metal fans from Brighton will dig it...can you dig it? Yes, you can. For info, visit: www.normal-records.com Naturally, I could go on. If anyone wants a huge and tiresome list of great metal albums from last year, mail me privately. Sadly, I'm quite serious. Still haven't got the Partridge albums yet...but they're dirt cheap in my local branch of MVC - about a tenner each, from what I can remember. Once I sell a few more bags of crack to the local kids, I'll be hot-footing it to do the decent thing... Gawd bless you all. Salut! Dom. Currently Playing: Tracker "Polk" (one for the discerning Calexico fans...)
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:50:26 +0530 From: "Sughosh Varadarajan" <aqualung@hotpop.com> Subject: Girdling the XTC globe... Message-ID: <000f01c2c7c0$8ea017e0$5dec5ecb@SughoshVaradarajan> Hey folks! Here's a fun little thing...check out the site www.globaldust.com ...maps out the fan following of a band by location and plots em on the world map as well....proud to say I've already covered India in purple (that's their colour for 1-100 fans)...why don't we all drop in and show the world (and maybe Andy as well) how many of us there are? Cheers Sughosh (Stupidly Happy was on air again last night! Wheeeee!!)
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:09:25 -0500 From: "Danny Phipps" <phipps@schoollink.net> Subject: (indirect XTC topic): BECKI DIGREGORIO!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <web-36721570@schoollink.net> chalkies of the 'Hill! -- come one, come all! altogether now, chant with me ~ BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... aaaaahh! now......we have attained total enlightment!! :-) becki, YOU ROCK, sweetheart! "god's empty chair"...."seven worthies...of the bamboo grove" -- what else left to say but MORE! MORE! MORE! let's all hear some head-trippin' psychedelia from the mystical queen "b" herself! ;-) get davie g. involved with it again like you did on your own two albums here!!! it'll be KILLER! people, if you love xtc, you'll love becki! not only is she a diehard xtc-fan(atic) like the rest of us, but she's a TALENTED diehard xtc-fan(atic)!! please contact her at ziglain@earthlink.net or check out her website at www.beckidigregorio.com we NEED more friends like her on our side!! trust me, folkies, you will NOT be disappointed in these releases!! sweet b........you go, girl!!! my ears are moist and sticky from these multiple eargasms listening to your KILLER tunage! ;-) now let us chat again the name of the mystical one: BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... BECKI DIGREGORIO...BECKI DIGREGORIO....BECKI DIGREGORIO... becki digregoriommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......... /danny (ever-fan...living the Dream - unwavering!) --- "Too many people preachin' practices -- don't let 'em tell you what you wanna be!" ~ mccartney
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:44:13 -0800 From: "Thomas Vest" <tvtwo@hotmail.com> Subject: wrapped in grey single available... Message-ID: <F159MOa1EXorDfnCCE80000811c@hotmail.com> Hello everyone I meant to send this a few days ago but forgot to do so. eBay has an auction going on for the elusive- ever so rare Wrapped in Grey cd single. It is currently up to $321.32 with 20 hours left! Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2503527395 Thom
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:11:47 -0600 From: "Will Kreth" <wkreth@austin.rr.com> Subject: leckie and lobos love that "Dukes" sound Message-ID: <001201c2c8b4$f6e61ee0$060fa8c0@thinkypad> Having been off the list for awhile, not sure if this John Leckie interview regarding his work with Los Lobos last year made the cut before (published last June in Mix Mag): http://mixonline.com/ar/audio_los_lobos_turns/ (full interview with Leckie here) "We spent about 10 years with Froom and Blake, and I wouldn't trade a second of it," says Steve Berlin. "I love the records we made together. But it was time to do something new. We have a new label, and we wanted to approach this album in a different way. In no way would I ever disparage Mitchell and Tchad's work, but it had become almost too comfortable working with them. We'd gotten to a place where we didn't have to work very hard, frankly. They covered so much ground and were able to make any idea sound brilliant, even if it was a crappy idea. And I mean that with all the love in the world. But to a certain extent, working with John [Leckie] revealed how much we counted on Mitchell and Tchad to cover many, many bases and to do some of the work that we probably should do as a band." Leckie says he has known Blake for quite awhile and thinks very highly of him: "He works here at Real World [Peter Gabriel's studio in England] a bit, and I've met him a few times there. So I told Tchad I'd been asked to do Los Lobos, and he said, 'I'm not surprised. They're always talking about you.' They said they liked the Radiohead record I did [The Bends]. But David Hidalgo also said he really likes The Dukes of Stratosphear [the psychedelic alter-ego of XTC]. He said, 'That's what we're going for.' I thought, 'Oh Christ! What am I getting into?'" he laughs. <snip>
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:24:22 EST From: Hbsherwood@aol.com Subject: Exactly How Andy Partridge Kicks My Ass Message-ID: <26.340975c3.2b6b0e26@aol.com> >From: art et affiche <art.affiche@wanadoo.fr> >Subject: Wes, you make me depressss > >Did you noticed another example of "songwriting self-canibalism" >in FW 2, with Ra Ra for red Rocking Horse"? Andy stole the notes >of the "Despite the fact that not one backed him" line at the end of >the chorus, and grafted them in the "Holly up on Poppy" chorus, on >the last line, "Ride and play the alchemy that love performed, laughing". >Find others examples. It's a funny little game to play! One of my favorite XTC recordings is the little B-side cut that accompanied "Easter Theatre," in which Andy explains "How Easter Theatre Came to Be." It's a wonderfully intimate little self-interview, presenting him in a subdued and reflective mood and curbing his more extroverted side -- the Parlor Andy rather than hysterical motormouth of "That Wag," for instance. What I value it most for, though, is the insight it gives into Andy's songwriting methods. In it he describes, as you will remember, a process whereby he had come up with some very nice chords with slightly dissonant, chromatically climbing passing tones, which lead to a climax that cries out for some sort of resolution. He then describes the experience of having a chorus that he'd written several years earlier suddenly surface again in his memory ("then that little ball bearing...") and Ah! The tension is relieved, the climbing, tension-building tones of the verse find a way to break open and flood forth with beautiful major-chord resolution: "Enter Easter and she's dressed..." Biographers have noted an observation of John Lennon's, in which he characterized his songcraft as "making little bits which you join up later." I believe Andy is this sort of songwriter as well, and Marie-Helene's finding a snippet of "Holly" in the middle of "Red Rocking Horse" is a very good example of it. Other examples that I can dredge up: "Blue Beret" contains large swatches of "That Wave"; "Goodbye Humanosaurus" has a note-perfect version of the turnaround from "Then She Appeared." (I'm sure there are more...) He seems to be a collector, a hoarder, of *moments.* Being (he says; I'm not sure how much I believe him) a musical illiterate, he doesn't think of, say, the line "Hookah with my senses bubbled"(or, as it appears in "Humanosaurus,""Just you raise your voice in chorus") as "a good way to get from IV to ii and then V7," or (especially) "a good cadence that allows me to introduce a bridge." Instead, I think he hangs his assessment on the emotional effect of the cadence. He writes it once, noting the effect it has, and squirrels that observation away. Then, if the song is unsuccessful, fair enough -- but even in failure he has a *moment* that he can pull out again later and apply in some other context. Look at the way he uses the line in both songs: In each case, the lyric sung against the cadence expresses the climax of an idea that's been building, a sort of final bubbling over of a pot that's been boiling for the last few lines. That, I think, is what sticks with Andy: Not the technical "usefulness" of the moment, but the emotional effect: "I need some pot-boiling-over chords... Where can I get them...? A-HA! Never used the pot-boiling-over chords from Goodbye Humanosaurus, I'll just recycle them!" It's the difference between an artisan and an artist. ----- If there's one thing that Fuzzy Warbles proves it's that if you landed Andy Partridge on a desert island with nothing but two popsicle sticks and a rubber band, within ten minutes he will have written a deeply affecting piece of music for popsicle sticks and rubber band. Plainly, the man eats, sleeps and breathes music in ways that the rest of us can't conceive. It's not a matter of technique, or of practice, or of developed skill. It's a matter of knowing exactly what is right and what is not right. You can develop your chops for decades and still not be able to pull off an Andy Partridge song. That's OK. Most people can't. "I Don't Want to Be Here" has a moment that epitomizes that perfect *rightness* that Partridge tosses out with such amazing regularity. The song is rather relentlessly negative: images of frustration, of disillusionment, of inability to escape, mingle with a resolution on the part of the singer never to allow himself to be treated so badly again by a lover. Only the last lines of the chorus hint that he knows that all his bluster is pointless, and ruefully (and I think, secretly happily) he admits: I don't want to let love spoil the day again But it may again, who knows But here's the Beauty Part: The song is primarily in B major, although it makes feints in the directions of both E major and F# major. The chord under "I don't want to let love spoil the day again" is C# minor (a minor chord built on the second degree of the scale, not at all an unusual choice). But under "But it may again" -- remember, the only line the song that's optimistic -- he goes to a C# *major* chord, which puts the song suddenly and briefly into the key of F# major. Now, this isn't a new trick or anything. The Beatles did it a million times, as did countless composers before them. But to arrange the chords and lyrics in such a way that the only optimistic line in the whole song is harmonized with a quick modulation from minor to major (that is, from "sad" to "happy" chords) -- that is, in anyone's book, pretty damned deft. It amazes and depresses me a bit that there aren't stadiums full of people waving soccer scarves and howling "I Don't Want to Be Here." Harrison "Gap ad?" Sherwood
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