Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 39 Monday, 28 July 2003 Topics: Re: Victor the Heretic questions: Similarly shattered Wasps and Apples Fuzzy Whining -- Oranges & Lemons Pitchfork review New Stuff Re: Heresy 7 Future Virgin Releases Crispy Ambulance re-issue Victor the Heretic Re: Mike Keneally, Andy Partridge and Dave Gregory in The Shed Warbles and Heresy Fuzzy Rip Offs Alert Administrivia: To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is compiled with Digest 3.7e (John Relph <relph@tmbg.org>). I learnt her lesson / in like flint and styling.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:39:41 -0400 (EDT) From: RSMko@webtv.net (Marston Moor) Subject: Re: Victor the Heretic Message-ID: <24426-3F1ED66D-786@storefull-2233.public.lawson.webtv.net> victor@pechanga.net Victor the Heretic Roach said: < < "I hate to be a heretic but I won't buy anything off the Idea Records or APE websites until they have the prices in US dollars." "I like to know how much I'm paying when I buy something. I have neither the time or the desire to look all over the web for a currency converter. I complained last year and they said they would recitfy the problemo but no such luck." > > oh please forgive me, big banker in the sky, but i find this 'intolerance' attitude ridiculously hilarious!!!! pockets bulging with poundnotes, ears empty of soundnotes. you make the call. pay to play, marston
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:41:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Ross <drmomross@yahoo.com> Subject: questions: Message-ID: <20030723184116.86217.qmail@web14903.mail.yahoo.com> what is *your* definition of "bad music". what is *your* definition of "good music". Just curious about the answers... -Nicole
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:17:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lore Guilmartin <loreguilmartin@yahoo.com> Subject: Similarly shattered Wasps and Apples Message-ID: <20030723211701.69659.qmail@web40406.mail.yahoo.com> Don <ddevice@hotmail.com> wrote, wondering if anyone else had experienced problems with the flimsy cases on the latest XTC/AP releases. Well, yes, Don, you are not alone! I'd been frustrated to find that those little flange things in the center of the case, that hold the CD itself in place, were all snapped off when "Apple Venus Vol 1" arrived in the mail, leaving the disc to rattle around and get scratched. And the case for "Wasp Star" fell completely apart in record time. I won't stop buying our boys' recordings, of course, but I'm disappointed at the low quality of the disc's packaging. Especially given that XTC/AP music is music to save and treasure. Lore
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:51:41 -0400 From: Andisheh Nouraee <andy@andy2000.org> Subject: Fuzzy Whining -- Oranges & Lemons Message-ID: <399EB91A-BD60-11D7-B4EE-0030656DE446@andy2000.org> Geez, people. One of you is upset that an English Web site sells goods priced in English currency. Keep in mind that, if you're in the U.S., that the exact price that you pay for your U.K.-purchased goods depends on the exchange rate that your credit card gives you. Ape or Idea can list an approximate price in dollars, but it won't be exact. And another guy is annoyed that CD jewel cases sometimes arrived damaged. A CD jewel case damaged. I'm shocked. Anyway. If any of you out there own both the Japanese Mini-LP remaster of O&L and the regular American, UK, or Canadian remaster -- can you tell me, is King For A Day screwed up sounding on all versions, or just the Japanese version? Andy N. *** Andisheh Nouraee http://www.andy2000.org
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:46:50 +1000 (EST) From: mark wotton <mwotton@rhialto.cse.unsw.edu.au> Subject: Pitchfork review Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307241046230.29598-100000@rhialto.cse.unsw.edu.au> anyone seen the review of fuzzy warbles 3&4 on pitchforkmedia.com? mrak -- you're so pretty when you're unfaithful to me -- Bone Machine, The Pixies
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:38:15 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: New Stuff Message-ID: <1d2.e53789e.2c509287@aol.com> Thanks for the heads up on that new Marshall CD, moley. I saw it on the list of new releases and made a mental note to check it out. Have you heard it yet? Also out and in the pop vein this week is a neat Lets Active tribute, containing a few of the familiar names that played the NC 80's Southeast scene with Mitch Easter & co. They do almost ALL of my favorite Let's Active tunes! You can hear some samples at: http://www.every-word.com/mp3.html Speaking of new stuff, I like FW #2 better than #1, now I'm chomping at the bit to get #'s 3 & 4. BUT I will make this comment - I was a bit dismayed that the length of the entire CD was less than 50 minutes, especially with this type of release and everything Andy has in the closet. I don't mind the higher prices, but more content would give it the feeling of being a better VALUE. Bob NP: Kelly Joe Phelps, "Slingshot Professionals"
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:25:44 -0500 From: "dunks58" <dunks58@milesago.com> Subject: Re: Heresy Message-ID: <200307240725.AA10027278@milesago.com> Sheer bloody-mindedness, more like it, Victor. May I suggest: www.xe.com/ucc/ It took me ... ooooh ... all of 5 seconds to find it using Google, and takes maybe 10 seconds max. to get the conversion ... ... which is probably a lot less time than you wasted writing and sending your trivial complaining email to Andy, I'll wager! Sheesh ... :P Dunks
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Long <optimismsflames@yahoo.com> Subject: 7 Future Virgin Releases Message-ID: <20030724175407.15281.qmail@web14907.mail.yahoo.com> Kidz: According to Andy - there are something like 9 releases slated to appear from the ever-so-generous folkz at Virgin. Here are the 7 he told me about: 1: An Introduction to XTC - not really a greatest hits... more of a greatest near-hits - the best of the deeper cuts. Does that make anyone's bamboo curl? It didn't make Colin's - if you haven't read the interview... http://www.optimismsflames.com/Interview1Colin.htm 2 & 3: Box sets of singles - all the singles, remastered (of course, because they've *already* paid for that) and released in cardboard sleeves, like the Japanese remasters, that look like the 45 sleeves. (Greatest hits... again, in a different package) 4. The 24 Hour XTC - a box set with songs separated by mood... huh? Songs for the morning, afternoon and evening - by XTC - that we've all already got three copies of. This one *really* bothers me. 5 & 6: 25 O'clock & Psonic Psunspot - they came out separately, then they were put together on CD - now they are going to separate them again. Perhaps these will have more extensive liner notes... who knows. Sadly - I'm quite sure I'll end up with copies of these... too much of a Dukes fan not to get ripped-off here. Perhaps they will toss in some extra stuff too? Nah - who am I kidding, this is Virgin we're talking about. 7. The DVD... you've all heard about this by now, right? Sadly - due to a (Andy's words here) hidden clause in the contracts for the Coat of Many Cupboards release, XTC made less money than they did on their earlier Virgin albums - *less* than they were making when they went on strike. Thanks again, Virgin. As a result - all the Virgin releases may be in a permanent holding pattern while the two camps attempt, again, to come to some sort of agreement. The more things change... wesLONG http://www.optimismsflames.com
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 01:17:04 +0200 From: "hans stromberg" <hansstromberg@hotmail.com> Subject: Crispy Ambulance re-issue Message-ID: <Law15-F113jIL2jpWkf00004d53@hotmail.com> > From: "Nicholson, Gary" <gnicholson@britannica.co.uk> > > A new (7th July 2003) collection, Rough Trade: Post Punk Vol.1 >includes 'This is Pop'? - The Langeified version rather than the >Leckiefied version. It also includes 43 other songs, mainly from >around 1977-1985, but with a few from the last couple of >years. Featured Artists include Scritti, Politti, Blurt, Wire, The >Flying Lizards, Swell Maps, Essential Logic and the great Crispy >Ambulance. From: Andrew Swainson <andrew.swainson@virgin.net> >Surely this must be a mistake... someone other than myself with an >appreciation of Manchester's most severely underrated band? I couldn't >his post go by without comment - it's good to know it's not just me. Unbelievable it is; two other human beings are talking about - Crispy Ambulance! And you're one of them, Andrew! I'm beginning to believe you're heavily into Wire, too ... Anyway, my first experience of CA was their release of a twelve inch single in 1981, Live on a Hot August Night, with the 11-12 minutes long "The Presence" on the A-side. I loved this tune so much that I was quite disappointed with The Plateau Phase at first ... I remember thinking that, of course this song never really ends, these guys don't want it to end, all those wonderful guitars and all this magical monotony ... "I can hear you breathing ... I know you're there" ... the lovely bass line, the brilliance of the opening and the ending of the song - okey, it comes to end but what an end! From: Andrew Swainson <andrew.swainson@virgin.net> >Apart from the obvious exception, Crispy Ambulance are, for me, probably >the most interesting band that came out of the Factory Records stable. Their >brilliantly unfashionable album, The Plateau Phase, is the only album that I >have played constantly for the last 20 or so years. Yea, and I checked out www.crispyambulance.com - the CD re-issue of The Platau Phase actually contains "The Presence" along with two other bonus tracks! Good taste, I say. Polar Bear
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:20:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Long <optimismsflames@yahoo.com> Subject: Victor the Heretic Message-ID: <20030725142038.65157.qmail@web14904.mail.yahoo.com> Save this link: http://www.xe.com/ucc/ Problem solved. wesLONG http://www.optimismsflames.com
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:02:26 -0700 From: "Kerry Chicoine" <KChicoine@whitehat.com> Subject: Re: Mike Keneally, Andy Partridge and Dave Gregory in The Shed Message-ID: <001f01c352e7$abca7100$501a75ce@mailorder.com> I'm cross-posting this with the permission of the original poster, from the Mike Keneally list: ======= Ok, I wasn't there, but Mike jammed with Andy P and Dave Gregory on Saturday 15th March 2003 in Andy's shed. I understand that Andy set up a lot of loops and samples and much swapping of instruments took place jamming on top. Lots of fun aparently. Dave Gregory very generously drove Mike down to Swindon after the Kew clinic and then from Swindon to Cardiff for the all too often mentioned Cardiff gig on Sunday 16th March. I had the slightly odd but still fun experience of DAve and Mike sitting in my lounge listening to "Black Napkins/ The Deathless Horsie" from the Halloween DVD in surround and listening to Mike and Dave discuss "XTC Song Stories" book, becauseI keep the book in my kitchen. I do believe I've mentioned what happened later that evening before, but I will say now, once again, that Dave Gregory is a very nice man as well as one hell of a musician. > AP and MK are apparently going to try to write together later this year? > oh my. So I'm told. ======= Tasty. kErrY kOMpOsT www.mp3.com/kompost www.m-blog.com/kompost www.receiveronline.com
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:18:04 -0400 (EDT) From: <adam@4bitterguys.com> Subject: Warbles and Heresy Message-ID: <12158.203.127.99.53.1059347884.squirrel@squirrelmail.4bitterguys.com> Warbles 3 and 4 are utterly, utterly exceptional. I'm continually amazed that the material this bloke *doesn't* release is still better than anything I've heard from anyone else in years. Why this music doesn't catch on is beyond me, but it's probably more fun being unique in that respect. I'm not sure I'd like to wake up and see Lightheaded sharing the top of the singles charts with Christina Aguilera and The Ketchup Song. Urgh-h-h. Victor Rocha wrote: > I hate to be a heretic but I won't buy anything off the > Idea Records or APE websites until they have the prices > in US dollars. > > I like to know how much I'm paying when I buy something. > I have neither the time or the desire to look all over > the web for a currency converter. I complained last year > and they said they would recitfy the problemo but no > such luck. It's not a 'problem'. Despite what you may believe, the US is not the centre of the universe. As an Australian I'm forever converting foreign currencies to my local currency. It's very easy. People in scores of countries do it all the time without any trouble. Do you complain to US websites that don't provide prices in Thai bhat or Egyptian pounds? Depriving yourself of music this divine over something that trivial and stupid really is cutting off your own nose to spite your face. Hopefully you'll get over your own mystifying hubris and just pay US$16.50 for the bloody things. Adam
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:23:43 +0100 From: "Dave Smith" <ds003d1857@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Fuzzy Rip Offs Alert Message-ID: <IGEEJFHKELOHNILGLHPFEEHFCDAA.ds003d1857@blueyonder.co.uk> Sir I must wholeheartedly concur with all those who have been telling the real truth about the poorly disguised rip-off that is the Fuzzy Warbles set. My Fuzzy Warbles discs 3 & 4 arrived yesterday. I absolutely love them. Although they were very expensive. Nearly 0.8% of my entire take-home salary for the month. And I had to surf the web for almost 13.6 seconds to find their Thai Baht value. And the cases are *just a little* too see-through for my liking. And one of them scratched my eye, when I head-butted it to test its durability. And when I dropped an attache case on them they broke my damn case! And I'm *pretty sure* that Andy was thinking negative thoughts about me personally (and probably Colin too) when he signed them. Ape, you bastards! Smudgeboy NP: Run To The Chalkhills - Irony Maiden
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