Chalkhills Digest Volume 9, Issue 34
Date: Friday, 27 June 2003
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 34
Friday, 27 June 2003
Topics:
Tubes / decline
lps not on cd
Re: Not on CD - Rank and File
Re: Silver Thread Marmelade
Re: Adrian Belew discs
Re: Doll by Doll
Return Of The Handsome Rugged Man
Wackers
Tin Huey
Let's Activate!
Re: Doll by Doll
Re: hard to find CDs
Absolute XTC Video presentation Venues Needed
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:38:57 +0100 From: "jonhd" <jon@jhd-designs.demon.co.uk> Subject: Tubes / decline Message-ID: <000c01c33c3c$1f8ceea0$ca01a8c0@two> >From Digest #9-33: RSMko@webtv.net (Marston Moor) > yet. Plus, their underrated 3rd album "Tubes NOW" really > groovystrankpf as well. Van Vliet! and Smoke... it's how you do me. A few bummers, therein - but "Smoke (Le Vie en Fumer)" is peerless. Greatly underrated live act - apart from Quay Lude's onstage appearances. What do you want from life ? <IMHO> To continue the theorising (bands on decline), these folks have 18 years or so of life to communicate, by the time they get the first record deal. They communicate it perfectly adequately in the first 1-3 albums. Nothing left to say after that - except the stuff you and I already know. Not just lyrics - licks, riffs, chops, changes, too. There's *very* few with enduring talent - and they're unlikely to be the ones shifting shitloads of product. I prefer to get me pakamak on (a bit ancient, you see), and hang-about record stores sniffing-out the new talent. Or read Mixmag, Jockey Slut, NME (recently broke a 30+ year habit with the latter). Incidentally, I do believe Partridge is one of the exceptions - a real artist - with Moulding the Muse. </IMHO> More arguments to be had ? Why bother forming a gtr/bs/dms/kbd band, nowadays. There's 50 years of R'n'R history, now - I think most bases have been covered. My kids (all 18+), if they do listen to 'old-style' rawk, listen to 60's / 70's bands, mainly. Not Stereophonics / Coldplay / Yeah Yeahs / White Stripes. It's a bit depressing for them to hear how (sometimes unintentionally) retro, contemporary bands are. It's a side-issue - most youngsters interested in music are not listening to R'n'R. XTC connection - the variety of the sonic landscape, of the last 3 albums (in particular), has lifted them well away from the rock stereotype. They're still innovating, developing - a sure-fire path to commercial failure ! BTW, I wonder how many on the 'Hills have the Andy / Harold Budd collaboration (completists exempted...) ? Direct your spleen to: Jon
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:08:48 -0700
From: "Paul Haines" <prhaines@bigpond.net.au>
Subject: lps not on cd
Message-ID: <001c01c33cce$c7a1b8e0$eb1a2dcb@vic.bigpond.net.au>
Chalkhillians,
Great thread the lps not on cd's stuff.
Guadalcanal Diary's "Walking In The Shadow Of The Big Man" (Phil -- I've got
"2x4" on cd, has an extra track too, a cover of "And Your Bird Can Sing" by
The Beatles).
Fiat Lux "Hired History"
Shriekback "Jam Science" -- I've heard you can get this somewhere though.
The Shriekback web site is a bit of a nightmare to navigate through and buy
things though!
Men Without Hats "Rhythm Of Youth" & "Folk Of The 80s" (hey! shut up -- this
is classic stuff!)
early Comsat Angel albums ("Sleep No More" & "Friction" I think)
The Armoury Show "Waiting For The Floods"
The Bathers "Unusual Places To Die"
A Flock Of Seagulls "Listen" (and "A Flock Of Seagulls" if it had the same
bloody tracks as the lp! And same as before - shut up! Classic stuff!)
Gang Of Four "Songs Of The Free"
The Members "Going West"
Microdisney "When The Clock Comes Down The Stairs"
Nash The Slash "Children of The Night" & "And You Thought You Were Normal"
Pop Will Eat Itself "Box Frenzy"
Rain Parade "Crashing Dream"
The Skids "Days In Europa" & "The Absolute Game" & "Strength Through Joy"
The Sound "All Fall Down" & "From The Lion's Mouth" (apparantly waiting to
be done as their last two albums have now been released on cd and I have
'em!)
Bruce Woolley & The Camera Club (pre buggles & thomas dolby)
and until a few years ago these were HUGE on the pay anything for list:
The Bible "Walking The Ghost Back Home"
Cactus World News "Urban Beaches"
Comsat Angels "Land"
My record collection is sitting in a barn at my parent's farm back in New
Zealand. I'm living in Australia. My wife does NOT want the records in our
house. (But why, Jules? I've only filled one room with cds so far?) Ah, time
to take a breath. Now, I'm not a completist or anything. Not obsessed
either. No. Not at all.
Also, I have it on good accord that a science-fiction story featuring XTC
will soon be appearing on a www.ideomancer.com in the next month or two.
I'll post back when it's finally published. I hope Andy doesn't hate the
author's guts and try and sue if he reads it.
On a Warbles theme, I think I'll be making my own best of warbles once I've
acquired them all. Without all the demos of the album tracks. Too similar
and don't sound as good. But all the new stuff! Aaaahhhh....
Paul Haines
(the other Paul down under --gidday Sgt!)
PS If anyone knows of any of the above albums being available, please drop
me a line.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:46:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Randy Posynick <randy_posynick@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Not on CD - Rank and File
Message-ID: <20030627004650.60057.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com>
phil "mr. t-shirt" corless bemoaned:
> Beloved LPs not currently available as new CDs....
>
> ...
> Rank and File - Rank and File
good news for you, phil! rhino homemade has thrown together two rank and
file albums -- 'rank and file' and 'long gone dead' -- along with some
unreleased live tracks on one swelligant CD, 'the slash years':
http://www.rhinohandmade.com/browse/ProductLink.lasso?Number=7816
i got it earlier this month and it's on constant rotation.
rp
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:05:25 -0700 From: "da9ve stovall" <da9ve@geek.com> Subject: Re: Silver Thread Marmelade Message-ID: <260603177.72316@webbox.com> >From: "WAYNE KLEIN" <wtdk12@msn.com> >from Neal>Warren Zevon "The Envoy" >Actually, it was released briefly on CD during the early 90's along with one >of my favs Bad Luck Streak in Dancing School The real criminal gap in the Zevon catalog is the stonking live _Stand in the Fire_. I have a mint vinyl copy, and as soon as time and inclination conspire, yadda yadda, . . . >Twang Bar King -Adrian Belew Actually, there are recent Japanese-only issues of _Twang-Bar King_, _Desire Caught by the Tail_ (which did have an earlier CD issue) and the superior _Lone Rhino_ on CD, and they are (as near as possibly can be) worth the wait. The majorly screwed-up digital remastering from the _Desire of the Rhino King_ comp (have you looked at any of that in a .wav editor? It's a mess.) is gone - these discs sound *#&^$^% brilliant. But they'll set you back a chunk. >Beloved LPs not currently available as new CDs.... > >Guadalcanal Diary - 2x4 . . . probably will be reissued (damn fine album, too - I do have all their CD output) - the two-fer of _Walking in the Shadow of the Big Man_/_Jamboree_ just arrived in my mailbox a few days ago; the latter half had never been on disc at all, and the former has regularly brought high prices on eBay (and, *snort*, I just plunked down close to $30 for a copy a few months ago, before news of the reissues made it out). >George Harrison - 33 1/3 I'd been hearing rumors of a comprehensive reissue/remaster series as long as three or so years ago. This'n'll come 'round again. (It's also one of my favorite George records - and one of his most underrated, just an all'round nice pop/rock album.) One I'd like to see on CD: _Concerts for the People of Kampuchea_. Macca, Townshend, Robert Plant, Rockpile, Pretenders (when JHScott was still around), and a fair load of others; last LP side is imho one of McCartney's better little one-offs. da9ve
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:58:51 -0400 From: "Kevin Hiscock" <KHiscock@hidebound.com> Subject: Re: Adrian Belew discs Message-ID: <OFB6A32CB9.7EAF94F2-ON86256D52.0014AF47@prominic.com> all three of Adrian Belew's initial solo discs are available from his website, www.adrianbelew.net. They're great limited edition Japanese mini LP sleeve thingies at domestic (US) prices. Tell Ade I sent ya, eh? And, natch, lot's of Ade's stuff (the Bears, guesting with the Irresponsibles, some band called King Crimson) on radio hidebound . . . heh heh. Saw the Irresponsibles open for Ade a few years ago. General consensus was they were great, and sounded a bit like some guys from Swindon . . . cheers.kah kevin a. hiscock yahoo IM-khiscock http://www.hidebound.com home of The Monster and radio hidebound currently spinning: Bruce Cockburn - Dust And Diesel
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:53:34 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Clee <cmc@sanger.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Doll by Doll Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.44.0306271050260.7593-100000@bach.sanger.ac.uk> well weird, I saw this band backing Hawkwind in '79 on the PXR5 tour....putting them in front of a crowd of scouse bikers might not have been the best plan. I seem to remember them lasting 3 numbers before the crowd drowned them out with a particularly anglo saxon comment. I heard they split a few days later.... memories memories........ TGCCATCGGATCTCCTGCCTAGAGGAG
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:11:23 +0100 (BST) From: Dom Lawson <britishsteel666@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Return Of The Handsome Rugged Man Message-ID: <20030627101123.5845.qmail@web40507.mail.yahoo.com> Fight Fans, There's a riot going on in Eric's head and NO ONE is invited. Thankfully. >>"Just don't like them" has never been a good enough >>excuse to say bad things about them. Yeah, yeah, yeah...blah, blah blah...why can't we all just be nice about everything, kiss the arse of every last self-important twatweed we meet and avoid any kind of confrontation, light-hearted or otherwise, in case our delicate sensibilities get slightly bruised? Answers on a retard to the usual address... Get a grip, you pompous buffoon...and I mean that in the nicest possible way. Just because you don't understand a joke, wry aside or monstrously unreasonable piece of grandstanding, it does not necessarily follow that either (a) it's not funny, (b) other people did not appreciate it, (c) some invisible line has been crossed that will bring about the end of the world or (d) you're not a rasping bell-end. >>"They suck" is not an adequate description of what one thinks or feels is wrong about a group. Like I said...HELP ME! I'M TRAPPED IN A VICIOUS CIRCLE WITH A DICK CHENEY IMPERSONATOR!...if you want me to give you proper, grown-up reasons for my intense hatred of Level 42 (and, yes, Mark King is an awesome bass player...Harold Shipman was a dab hand at murder, but technical ability doesn't necessarily equate with a good time had by all) then it will cost you. Otherwise, stop bleating and trying to chew the electric fence. Please. You're hurting people's brains. >>I started this topic about L---- -- because I thought many XTC fans liked both groups (nyah nyah, mentioned them both in the same sentence). Nyah nyah y'self, Ineffective Riposte Boy! Yes, I'm sure plenty of XTC fans like Level 42. Only one such person is unable to tell the difference between a piss-take and, er, whatever it is you think happened back there... >>the atheistic tendencies flap in the face of songs like "Heaven in My Hands". Pity. Nurse! The screens! etc >>Let's start a new topic. Anyone hate the Beatles? :) No, but apparently Paul McCartney thinks you suck. >>"Who won the course despite the fact that no one >> >>backed him." I'm weeping as I write this. Salut! Dom "Who shot the three-legged mule in the paddock, but shed a tear as he pulled the trigger."
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:31:34 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net> Subject: Wackers Message-ID: <BB21A356.970D%cauldron@together.net> on 6/24/03 10:28 PM, Dempsey wrote: > On the thread about LPs I'd like to find on CD..... > * The first two Klaatu records > * Thrillington > * Rootboy Slim "Zoom" I found a pretty good compilation of all five of their LPs on CD, with the bulk of the material coming from their first two. I don't know if any of their original LPs have been released on CD. I kinda doubt it. I'd love to see anything Bob Segarini's ever released on CD, so far I've found a 1996 rerelease of his first solo LP Gotta Have Pop with five bonus tracks(all interesting but not essential). None of his solo albums from the early 80's; I know of at least two(Goodbye LA and Vox Populi; I have the former on LP, it's even better than Gotta Have Pop), there may be more, they were only released in Canada and I was in college Stateside at that point. Even more criminally none of the three Wackers albums have come out on CD. Even a comprehensive compilation including tracks from their aborted fourth LP Wack and Roll(the band broke up because half the band wanted to stay in Montreal the other half wanted to go back to California) would be very welcome; their three released albums are a bit uneven anyway.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:39:49 -0400 From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net> Subject: Tin Huey Message-ID: <BB21A544.970E%cauldron@together.net> on 6/24/03 10:28 PM, da9ve wrote: > Hrm. The Tin Huey "Contents Dislodged During Shipment" (or whatever) > finally came out on CD within the last few months, . . . > > Can't think of any others immediately, though I'm sure a quick > perusal of my projects at home would yield another half-dozen. You can find the Tin Huey album at Collector's Choice, a mailorder/online oldies rerelease company. They've rereleased some pretty interesting stuff at varying prices but sometimes quite reasonable. The downside is it seems like they do the remixing and mastering themselves, whoever does it is downright incompetent. The Phil Ochs rereleases I got recently just sound wrong somehow, I remember a harsichord and rhythm section on the title track of Pleasures Of The Harbor and all I hear for the most part is orchestra and voice. If anyone gets the Tin Huey album(I've got it on vinyl, I'd soon just transfer it to CD myself if it comes to that) I'd like to know how it sounds.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:48:31 -0400 From: "Lippitt, Andy" <ALippitt@twtr.com> Subject: Let's Activate! Message-ID: <D60DD682DB09144DA8D55136EEED6EAE02AAFFB7@sabertooth.bmsv.com> Howdy Chalkists! De-lurking just long enough to pass on this news. Phil Corless bemoaned the fact that, among other faves, Let's Active's "Big Plans for Everybody was not available on CD. Au contraire! Collector's Choice http://www.oldies.com/ <http://www.oldies.com/> has just made it available (with bonus tracks, no less). They have also re-issued the final Let's Active album, "Every Dog Has Its Day." I ordered my copies just the other day. I think that they typically make their releases available only on the website before releasing them to retailers some weeks or months later. (BTW-I have no affiliation with Collector's Choice, blah, woof). -Another guy named Andy Who also thinks it's a fookin' crime that Argy Bargy isn't available on CD in any country at the present!
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:52:10 +0100 From: "Richard Hall" <rhall010861@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Doll by Doll Message-ID: <04de01c33cb3$535444f0$c3a327d9@Den> Phew - Doll by Doll. Thought they'd been forgottten. I had one or two of their albums, now sadly lost or stolen, at least I can't find them. Had a handful of singles too that might be lurking around. Good stuff. Problem is that their label Magnet, at least in the UK, probably doesn't exist anymore. Richard
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:21:20 -0500 From: William Loring <bloring@TIRERACK.COM> Subject: Re: hard to find CDs Message-ID: <BB21BD10.D0A7%bloring@tirerack.com> You may hear this from many others, but the first three Belew CD's (Lone Rhino, Twang Bar King, Desire Caught By The Tail) are finally all available from http://www.adrianbelew.net/ These are in limited release (5000 copies each, I believe), so don't wait. Actually, I'd been putting this off, so I think I'll nip right off and order mine now. I just pre-ordered FW 3&4, so what the heck, it's only money. ...william loring
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:01:07 -0700 From: "Korby Sears" <korbys@earthlink.net> Subject: Absolute XTC Video presentation Venues Needed Message-ID: <E19VxTD-00057k-00@grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Dear Chalkhillians, My name is Korby Sears, and I am a Seattle-based XTC freak. This past Monday on the 23rd, I just put on a rather unique video/performance presentation here in Seattle called Absolute XTC, which was a video retrospective of XTC promo videos, TV appearances, concert footage, and the XTC Puppet show The Road to Oranges and Lemons (see the Chalkhills news for a mention of the evening). I played the role of the Professor, explaining a bit of history about the band between segments. At the end, a band I recently started called Subpoenaed Lemur played a 30 minute set of XTC tunes (Limelight, Dance Band, Radios in Motion) and XTC-influenced originals (Love on TV, Single File Female, Kiss Locally). This took place at a venue called the Rendezvous Jewel Box Theater, an old 1920 movie house with digital video projection and a stage perfect for band performances. There are tables and red velvet booths, and bar/food service for the theater. On the tables I had color programs of the evening's events, and I put out several party favors that the audience could take home (maps of Swindon from Go 2, printouts of the 11 Different Animals Sheet Music book, and a construction I did of the Making Plans for Nigel board game). Due to some shrewd promotion on my part, and the fact that there are a kajillion XTC fans everywhere, the night was a resounding sucess: 63 people were crammed into the theater on a sunny Monday evening, creating a fire hazard, and even more were crammed around the doors peering in for a look, and even more had to be turned away, as they simply could not see a damn thing over the crowd. Even Larry Estes - producer of Sherman Alexie's films Smoke Signals and The Business of Fancydancing - actually drove in from out of town and was front and center for the video presentation and the band. Needless to say, the Rendezvous asked me to remount the entire event again (the bar business was great!), on a Friday or Saturday night this fall. I said yes, eager to get the XTC word out, and am looking into taking the show on the road as it were to similar venues in Portland, Vancouver BC, and beyond. So what I am asking you, Dear Chalkhill-ites, is this: is there a suitable venue in your town for us to take this show on the road to? I'm making calls to start booking something of a tour for this presentation. What I'm looking for in a venue is the following: 1) 50-100 seat capacity 2) Digital video projection with VCR and DVD (have still shot Icons to project when I'm speaking) 3) Stage with sound system to support a band 4) Desired but not required: cocktails and/or food service (makes it more like a party, which the Rendezvous night certainly was) Please resond to me privately at: korbys@earthlink.net. Also - if anyone wants to see what the PR e-mail and publicity poster looked like, or the outline of the evening (detailing what videos were shown and when/what I was talking about as Professor) and a look at JPGs of what the 4-page color program looked like, feel free to e-mail me at the address above and I'll send you the materials. Thanks! Hope we can come to your town! Korby Sears Tejas Tunes 206-923-1339 http://home.earthlink.net/~korbys
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