Chalkhills Digest Volume 6, Issue 210
Date: Thursday, 27 July 2000
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 210
Thursday, 27 July 2000
Topics:
Andy's controversial quote
budd/prtridge
abbey road, doors, belew, oils, KC, 10cc, partridge/budd
discarded objects
Review
Not so tasty words to eat ...
The Stuff Just Pours Out, Part 2
Various odds and sods...
Aliens...the Eagles, and tasty Mellotrons
Re: Andy Summers
WASP STUNG (OUCH!)
Drakism
THE BIG TAKEOVER
On'e person's garbage is another person's tresure
Noodling
Random Stuff
Beyond Bad
Simon And Bloody Garfunkle
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:22:34 +0200
From: jeffrey.thomas.jt@bayer-ag.de
Subject: Andy's controversial quote
Message-ID: <0006800028184860000002L002*@MHS>
Hi "Kreideberger",
One hot topic of discussion of late here has been a quote of Andy
Partridge's ("...don't listen to other people's stuff...") taken from the
German "Musikexpress" review of Wasp Star, and whether or not it was
arrogant, right or wrong, etc. Good quote -- want more? Indigo, the
distributor for Cooking Vinyl in Germany, has a monthly catalog of new
items with larger and smaller press blurb-type things in it, which, for
the month of June 2000 includes a 2-pager on XTC. Andy's quote about not
listening to other people's music is given in somewhat more detail in this
piece.
Please realize that I am back-translating this, so that I am adding *my*
interpretation of the words to the *German translator's* interpretation of
the original quote. Thus there is certainly some skewing -- and possibly
some skewering -- of the original message Andy was trying to convey. Add
to that that any interview is always context-dependent, and who knows what
value my translation might have. Nevertheless, here it is:
"Ich habe nicht das Beduerfnis, mir den Kram von anderen Leuten
anzuhoeren. Die beste Musik entsteht durch gutes Essen, Trinken,
emotionale Dinge, nicht unbedingt durch andere Musik, die man hoert. Ich
weiss, das klingt schrecklich pompoes, aber ich habe heute auch einfach
keine Geduld mehr, Leuten zuzuhoeren, die noch nach ihrer Stimme, ihrem
Ausdruck suchen."
"I don't feel the need to listen to other people's stuff. The best music
arises from (-or- originates/results/emerges/develops from) good food, or
drink, or emotional things, but not necessarily from other music one
hears. I know that it sounds horribly pompous, but I just don't have the
patience any more to listen to people who are still searching for their
direction, their voice."
I don't know if this works to Andy's defense or to his detriment, but I'll
leave that up to the Chalkhills analysts. As Bill Clinton would say, "I trust
the Chalkhills readers. They almost always get it right." (Flattery will get
you everywhere.)
Now onto other recent topics:
A) Debora asked about a nagging lyric problem. Let me try to help
(diabolical laughter: Nya-a-aaaa! A-HAHAHAHA!!!):
My name is Michael, I got a nickel
I got a nickel, shiny and new
I'm gonna buy me all sorts of candy
That's what I'm gonna do
See the little children
Living in a world we left behind
Happy little children
In the playground in my mind
This song is, I believe, "Playground in My Mind" by, I believe, Clint
Holmes. Now let's compare it to another lyric on a similar topic: "You
may leave school but it never leaves you." Gee, I wonder which song is
better?
B) Shitney Dallas: As Dorothy, Jill, Jim and Ed ("yodelbellowing divas"
indeed) have all postulated, my gripe re. "I Will Always Love
Yodelbellowing" had more to do with the messenger than with the message.
Whitney is the culprit.
I can't stand the pop diva formula that goes like this: start softly, but
with certainty, then build up quickly to a bombastically hideous level
that is somewhere between the cries of all the souls in hell and the
Hiroshima atom bomb, except that it has to be done over a range of at
least two octaves and as melodramatically as possible. Throw in all sorts
of extra notes and faux-syllables. Then, just before the end of the song,
like about the last half-sentence or so, get really, really soft again,
with a sort of vulnerable feel, to increase the drama to its max and prove
you can do more than just caterwaul. And it increases your sales, too.
Do this every single time you sing a ballad (you can stay loud at the end
once in awhile, too). The masses will eat it up.
To me, the comment about "She does have an amazing voice" is irrelevant.
She may, but to me, it's the old Neil Peart vs. Ringo Starr debate. I
choose Ringo. Musicality is NOT showing how loud you can sing and how
many notes you can throw into songs that don't deserve the "Wagnerian"
treatment (sorry if I'm being unfair to Wagner). It's the right amount at
the right time. Take Frank Sinatra in his early years. Take Ella
Fitzgerald. Don't take Whitney Mariah Celine Diva. Put them all in the
electric cher.
C) Aid sed:
>I frequently favour more "wimpy" sounding singers over those who
>come across in a more aggressive way
So that means you actually *like* Seasons in the Sun, right?
D) Groups that peaked with their first records? Haven't seen these
mentioned (often) yet:
Dire Straits, The Cars, Dada, B-52s
E) Groups that were once great but now suck:
Tons have already been mentioned, but the one that is the most blatant of
all in my book is The Moody Blues. Some would question their greatness,
although I wouldn't, and can't. But they lost their collective minds
about 5-6 records ago and since then, >90% of what they do is complete and
utter garbage/rubbish. Awful. Below any scale of quality one might
choose to use. Embarrassing. And that makes me very melancholy, man.
F) Young vs. old. All I can say is:
When you were young and your heart was an open book, you used to say live
and let live. But if this ever-changing world in which we're living makes
you give in and cry, say, "Live and let die!" Kill all rap music. Kill
all metal. Kill all things we don't understand. For everything, turn
turn turn...
Enough.
- Jeff
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:19:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: budd/prtridge Message-ID: <20000726151947.11461.qmail@web2101.mail.yahoo.com> Someone, I forget who, asked: yesterday I found a used CD of Andy Partridge and Harold Budd and I can't remember the name of it and I can't look it up 'cause it's in my car but I'm sure it's the only one and I hear it's some sort of ambient album and is it any good 'cause I paid over $20 for it and does anyone want to trade for it if I don't like it and what's a good price for Fossil Fuel 'cause they had that too and I gotta run talk to you later. ---------------- the partridge/budd cd is titled Through the Hill, it is indeed an ambient record, ok if you're into ambient/newage musak (i'm not) Andy's presence isnt felt nearly as much as Harold Budd's he contriutes short poems (read by Budd) and occasional insuments, good to have a copy if youre an xtc completist but I never play my copy, its sleepytime music to my ears I have no idea what a good price for fossil fuel is gotta run my new cdr burner is arriving today and i want to play.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:20:40 +0200 From: Bergmaier Klaus <klaus.bergmaier@maxonline.at> Subject: abbey road, doors, belew, oils, KC, 10cc, partridge/budd Message-ID: <41E0B760C85AD3119BE200E0291B6EE5057BBB@NTSRV> Hi, folks! I read something in CH6-206, which is definitely it. I do absolutely feel the same about this very passage on Abbey Road. It is the most moving piece of music I know. Everytime I hear it (even now when I just think of it), I can't help crying. So here are the words of Michael Versaci *Subject: The Pinnacle *Message-ID: <000201bff56e$d7b4a0d0$6948d23f@mtwe50004> * *Folxtc, * *"Abbey Road" is the pinnacle of popular music in the 20th century. * *There is a passage in "You Never Give Me Your Money" - the part that *immediately follows: * *"Oh that magic feeling * Nowhere to go / nowhere to go" * *that is absolutely stunning. Paul (I think) playing a beautiful lead *guitar part, George chiming his subtle rhythm guitar through a Leslie and *the three of them singing "ahhhhhs" surpasses anything on any pop/rock *record. Ever. * *And the reprise of the theme in the "Golden Slumbers" medley? * *Magnificent. * *Michael Versaci You are oh so right. I feel quite the same at the beginning of the chorus of "Chalkhills and Childrens" and its elder brother "God Only Knows" by the Beach Boys. I like all your mentioning Midnight Oil, King Crimson and Rush in your alien abduction top 5. Excellent bands. Like 10cc. Has anyone any idea where I can purchase "Ten out of Ten" and "Windows in the Jungle" on CD? I also need "L" and "Consequences" by Godley & Creme. Nor wanted us to recommend something by Adrian Belew. My favourite of his albums is "Here". Any other opinions? To John Keel: the Partridge/Budd-CD you "found" is called "Through The Hill". And you shouldn't trade it. I like it. It is very relaxing and has great cover artwork. Please join all in at Erik Schlichting's map-idea and mail him your location. That's it from Austria. Melt the guns! Klaus
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:29:56 -0700 From: Natalie Jacobs <jacobsn@careoregon.org> Subject: discarded objects Message-ID: <C1463800B2EFD311A84B00A0C9E9318B2D405E@NT1> Tyler Hewitt sayeth: > It was fun going back to Ann Arbor, my former hometown > (moved 2 years ago). Hooked up with old friends, sat > in the sun, got little sleep. Didn't have time to hit > the various used record shops around town too > seriously, but did come away with Yazbek's Laughing > Man for $6.00... If you bought that at Encore Records, that was, in all likelihood, my old copy of the album. I sold it a year or two ago and I doubt there's many other people in Ann Arbor who might've owned a copy and then sold it. I hope you enjoy it more than I did... :P missing WCBN, ex-Ann Arborite n.
------------------------------ Date: 26 Jul 2000 17:28:00 +0100 From: "Robert Wood" <Robert.Wood@mutech.co.uk> Subject: Review Message-ID: <00003386@mutech.co.uk> Organization: Mutech Ltd Mike posted a review of Nonsuch: >> XTC's last album, Nonsuch, was as near to wretchedness as anything they'd produced since their early days, <snip> That's the best description of Nonsuch I've ever read. << Funny, that was the biggest load of horseshit *I'd* ever read. (Well at least concerning XTC.)
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:26:47 EDT From: IMSUNBAKE@aol.com Subject: Not so tasty words to eat ... Message-ID: <200007261726.KAA19898@sgiblab.sgi.com> Chalk Friends -- Radios in Motion wrote: >Maybe I will eat my words and within the next few months Wasp Star >will get the press it deserves. But lets be honest folks, how many of >you see that happening? My Dear Man - The press has loved WS. Local DJs in my area think it is superb, and some stations actually play it. HOWEVER (and I hope I have to eat these words): Barring a miracle (I DO work at a Catholic college, maybe I can put in a few good words?) Wasp Star ain't going anywhere near where it should go. I love it and have a couple of copies. I have chatted it up to dozens of people. Go buy this album! The music is fabulous and wondrous! I say this as a person who has listened to almost nothing but XTC since March as a "newbie." From White Music to Wasp Star, it's a daily diet of music that I am flipped over. There *may* be a handful of tracks that I'm not crazy about in what, 300-400 songs? I'm diggin' on stuff I wouldn't have listened to 20 years ago (Big Express, for example :-)). And all of those album sales put together probably don't approach the sales of Eminem's latest abomination. HOWEVER ---- word-of-mouth doesn't sell 10 million records. A fabulous website doesn't sell 10 million records. A solid core of diehard worshippers telling dozens of people what a fab album WS is will not sell 10 million records. The people creating the product must make videos and tour to have a shot at hitting the gigantic numbers. It's excruciating work. Or be naked, or vacuous, or jiggle or "sing" about rape and murder. What came undone 18 years ago isn't going to turn around in 1 year, even if the band packed its bags and hit the road tomorrow. Do I agree that this should be the case? NO! Is it the case? Well, just look at the dog poop on MTV and VH1! (with apologies to my 4 dogs, who have just wonderful dog poop). I just got Dish TV and have been watching MTV and VH1 for the first time in about 4 years. Holy jumping Judas Priest. It's just bleehhhhh!!! I haven't missed anything! I'm going to have a glass of sherry. Thoughts, Chalkers? Annamarie, who really needs to cut back on the coffee
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:40:08 EDT From: Hbsherwood@aol.com Subject: The Stuff Just Pours Out, Part 2 Message-ID: <bc.8583faa.26b07c78@aol.com> >From: Jim Allen <karnevil9@loop.com> >Subject: Prog rock, rap and sampling >Yawn. What a boring, lazy thing to say. Not quite as boring and lazy as this: >And where did Andy get those sounds for "River of Orchids" anyways? Did >he sample them off one of his old records? Buy them on a sample disc? >Unless he sat and recorded a string section and a bassoon playing those >exact riffs, he is no different from a rap producer in that regard, taking >pre-existing sounds, melodies and rhythms and coming up with something >new. Does anyone know where he got those sounds from? If you're talking about the demo that appeared on Homespun, the orchestral samples came from an early-Nineties EMU Proteus sound module. However, if you are asking "where he got those sounds from" in the official AV1 release, the liner notes of the album (not to even mention your own sample-addled ears) would have told you they were recorded at Abbey Road Studios by The London Sessions Orchestra under their leader Gavin Wright, and were conducted by Mike Batt. The orchestra was hired at nearly ruinous expense. The dissension over the decision to spend a very large percentage of the album's recording budget on a live orchestra was (we are told) one of the major reasons for Dave Gregory's departure from the band. Photographs of the session are available at the Chalkhills web site. One showing the orchestra itself shot through the recording-booth glass by our own Richard Pedretti-Allen, who attended the session, is available at http://chalkhills.org/images/photo/RPAOrch1.jpg. You may want to take a look at the picture; off to the right you can get a good look at one of those weird contraptions they use to make cello samples. Yes, you are right; this modus operandi is indeed almost completely unlike that of a computer-based musician. I don't think such an individual would endanger his artistic future, alienate bandmates, and overspend a recording budget insisting on something as Victorian and cranky as music recorded in real time with wooden instruments in one of the world's most sought-after orchestral-recording spaces. Rather the opposite of boring and lazy, come to think of it. (Admittedly, the orchestral recording was "improved" by Haydn Bendall after the fact in Pro Tools. He "corrected" the timings and temporal waverings that are inevitable in such a repetitious arrangement.) Please don't assert moral equivalency between Andy Partridge and some theoretical computer-slave on the basis of the tools they use. There's an enormous yawning gulf of difference between musical influence and outright appropriation: using a musical cliche to establish a mood or a style for an original arrangement is in no way whatsoever equivalent to sampling it wholesale. To claim otherwise is intellectually bankrupt. Not to mention boring and lazy. You say "To-may-to," I say "To-mah-to"; you say "Taking pre-existing sounds, melodies and rhythms and coming up with something new," I say "Cultural necrophilia." Let's call the whole thing off. Harrison "It's a Gershwin reference. He's dead, so sample away." Sherwood
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:54:02 -0700 From: "Bob Claster" <bob@pagebbs.com> Subject: Various odds and sods... Message-ID: <NCBBLALOOPICLPOHJOAKOEHLCMAA.bob@pagebbs.com> First of all, George Martin has been losing his hearing for quite some time now. A friend went to hear him speak, and it was apparent in the way he wasn't able to hear any of the Q's in the Q&A session at the end. The story that was most often told about the Fab 1+3 sessions is that he was asked to assume his usual (and rightful) chair, and had to regretfully decline due to the fact that he just didn't have the ears for it. I've always hated those "desert island disks" questions, but off the top of my head, here are a few: 1. Van Dyke Parks - Jump 2. Little Feat - Dixie Chicken 3. Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde 4. Paul Desmond Quartet Live 5. Mahler's 9th Symphony - Bernstein 6. Schubert's Bb Piano Sonata - Valery Afanassiev 7. Judee Sill - Heart Food 8. Fats Waller - just about anything If box sets were allowed, I'd bring along Randy Newman, Billie Holiday, Bob Marley, Ray Charles, Procol Harum, Harry Nilsson, Frank Sinatra, the Stones, Hank Williams Sr., and the Stax/Volt singles. But it's such a silly question. Will we, before long ask it thusly: "An alien is coming to take you away and only allots you 1 gig of his hard drive space for music..." The reason it's silly is because, while I absolutely adore the Beatles, for instance, I doubt I'd bring them along because I've heard them so often that I can replay them rather adequately in my head. Probably not much I haven't heard to discover. It's for that reason that if those same aliens asked me which books I'd bring, I'd probably bring big, dense, difficult books that'd keep me occupied, rather than slim favorites like "Franny and Zooey." Bob Claster bob@pagebbs.com $:0`0:$x,88,x$:0`0:$x,88,x$:0`0:$x,88,x$:0`0:$x,88,x$:0`0:$x
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:53:08 EDT
From: "Seth Frisby" <vagueyear@hotmail.com>
Subject: Aliens...the Eagles, and tasty Mellotrons
Message-ID: <20000726175308.84935.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hey ChalkHeads,
Sorry about that drinking post a while back...i'm not a drunk
I just play one while drinking...plus has anyone noticed my posts
never have anything to do with what everyone else is talking about?
just asking....well
let's try doing just a little of what everyone else is...
my albums for alien abduction?...: The EAGLES greatest hits...that
would them show how average most of us Americans are... and it'll teach em
to go bother the Chinese or the south africans or something and leave them
poor rednecks alone...damn aliens..
Seth "Orgone lad" Frisby
p.s. you know what i'd like to hear on the next album? Mellotrons. Lot's of
mellotrons.
p.p.s. A serious post is soon to follow.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:37:50 -0700 From: Rich Bunnell <richbunnell@home.com> Subject: Re: Andy Summers Message-ID: <397F2FFE.DEC71394@home.com> Organization: @Home Network > Back to The Police content: Andy Summers was on "Rock -n- Roll Jeopardy" > last week, heard he didn't do so well. That'll learn ya for hangong out > with Eric Burdon all those years ago. That's because there was this jerkoff from Poison in the leftmost podium; he shouted and sneered the entire time and didn't let anybody else answer any questions. Andy Summers probably knew most of the answers, but he was drowned out by the hair metal idiot.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:41:08 -0700 (PDT) From: MARK ELLIOTT <frontln99@yahoo.com> Subject: WASP STUNG (OUCH!) Message-ID: <20000726184108.23631.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com> Greetings all.. Over the weekend I was doing some light rock climbing and as I pulled myself up to a small ledge I was imediatly stung on the wrist by a nasty little wasp...how very rude of him! Seems I had my hand right near a little waspy hang out! Oh well, couldn't help smirking about it later when it dawned on me. Ok...things to respond to (please roll the tape): *Someone asked for Nick Drake advice~ I would advise the best of Nick Drake "WAY TO BLUE" but what's the point, you'll just go out and buy the box set FRUIT TREE later anyway everyone does..(except for that guy who dosn't get Nick drake at all) *In an EXtreem run-on sentance someone was wondering about the BUDD/PARTRIDGE disc and if it was worth keeping...hmmmm if your collecting you'd keep a recording of Andy blowing his nose (but that's just some) The title is THROUGH THE HILL released in 1994 and it is not for everyone..it is indeed very ambient and complex..methinks that's why there was never another release from these two fellas. I've never seen it anywhere except in my Cd rack..I'd keep it. *Someone mentioned that GARY NUMAN's only good release was with Tubeway Army...yer joking right??? Who do you think Tubeway Army WAS??? Gary Numan changed the face of music with his inovations in synth .... although he did put out a few clunkers in his 20 year career, the majority of his music is Xcellent!! He is still going strong and I demand you take it back Mr.!!! *NONSUCH a terrible album??? Another attempt at musical snobbery I think... c'mon that review was shite and spiteful. *Allow me to suggest a group that I've been meaning to chat about and since I'm rambling here I will continue thak you very much!!!! Anyone who can enjoy the bittersweet and beautiful things in music needs to check out THE BLUE NILE. This trio puts out an album every seven years or so and has 3 gems waiting for you discover. Start with A WALK ACROSS THE ROOFTOPS If you don't adore it I'll eat my hat!!! 2nd album is HATS (see how i worked that in there..) Last & newest release was called PEACE AT LAST. IF I ever find a woman who is an XTC fan AND a BLUE NILE fan I'll know she's my chosen one!!! (either that or we will have to destroy each other like Red Tiger Blue Tiger) well..that's quite enough from me then. Mark "this is a local shop for local people" Elliott ===== SUPPORT GIG RECORDS! HOME OF MILES HUNT, GROUNDSWELL U.K. & THE AMAZING MEET PROJECT!! INFO @ WWW.GIGRECORDS.COM
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:07:08 +0100 From: John Peacock <johndrewp@zoo.co.uk> Subject: Drakism Message-ID: <397F36DB.F23360D6@zoo.co.uk> Organization: The Nice Organization > Rory Wilsher asked: > > Nick Drake has featured a lot on people's alien lists... I confess to > complete ignorance on this artist ... can someone give me > a good jumping-off point? There's a compilation called Way To Blue, which provides a nice overview of Nick's work (like with Scott Walker, fans feel on first-name terms), but you won't have it very long because [a] he may not click with you (hey, it happens) and you'll give it away or [b] (the preferred alternative), he will click all too well and you'll have to go out and buy Fruit Tree, the complete (-ish) boxed set containing Nick's original three albums (Five Leaves Left, Bryter Layter and Pink Moon) and a posthumous compilation of outtakes, demos and Nick's Last Four Songs (Time of No Reply). My all time favourite is Five Leaves Left, which I can listen to at any time and never stales; many people prefer Bryter Layter, which is a bit jazzier and jollier. Pink Moon is beautiful, chilling, minimalist and very short (under 30 minutes). I just play it twice in succession. That said, they've just re-released the individual albums, remastered. Perhaps they will also update Fruit Tree. I just yesterday finished reading the biography of Nick. Very sad, of course, but he seems to be growing with stature as time passes. He really is Great with a big G. "Now we rise And we are everywhere" John -- In the spirit of shameless self promotion, my songs may be found at: http://www.mp3.com/peacock "sell yourself, sell yourself, expect nothing" as a sage saith.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:24:24 -0700 (PDT) From: travis schulz <xtcisadarngoodband@yahoo.com> Subject: THE BIG TAKEOVER Message-ID: <20000726192424.10231.qmail@web1101.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Chalkies!!! A lot of us already know how great The Big Takeover magazine is, but I just thought I'd encourage you to join their email chat. Things are really picking up there as I'm getting over a hundered emails daily thanks largely to them. It's a great way to learn about some great music and there's lots of XTC fans there. But we need more! www.bigtakeover.com Just do it. The preceeding message has been brought to you by The Big Takeover. Life's a bitch, but BT is always there for you. Travis.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:28:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Molly <mfanton99@yahoo.com> Subject: On'e person's garbage is another person's tresure Message-ID: <20000726192828.9841.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> I'm getting sick of this rap, progressive rock, heavy metal, whatever bashing. You might think these types of music suck, but another person might like it. I hate it when people say, "Why do you listen to this group, they suck?" Everybody has a right to their opinions, but don't question a person's taste. I listen to all types of music including some rap. *sarcastic alert* I must be horrible for listenint to rap, since it sucks. Yuck, I like Bananarama, they suck. (I'm just making an example, I really do like Bananarama, so sue me.) It's like the quote says, "One man's garbage is another man's treasure." What you might think sucks, another person really likes. Molly 72 ===== AIM Name: MFanton00 Website: http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/index.html Fave Quote: "If your flight is going rough, your soul will lead you to the nearest exit" - Jump - XTC (A. Partridge)
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:39:39 -0700 From: "Hiatt, Randy" <Randy.Hiatt@fsbti.com> Subject: Noodling Message-ID: <F34536084B78D311AF53009027B0D7EAE3DA7E@FSBEX01> KirK.Gill said: <In 6-195, Rob Carson said:I dare anybody to say ANYTHING good about Styx.Here's something: I used to play guitar with a pal of mine at all theparties back in high school. One of our numbers was an emotional renditionof the Styx tune "Suite Madame Blue." The girls really liked it, and byextension, us. The only way to say it is that the song got me laid. Repeatedly.> Nice try KiRK, it wasn't Styx. All us musicians know the truth. Randy (no body takes up music to play with their own instrument) Hiatt
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:59:18 +0100 From: "Thompson, Gary C" <ThompGC@fgwilson.com> Subject: Random Stuff Message-ID: <7765DDCF75A1D111A81B00805FF56DA901DC95F5@FGWEX1> In reply to Ed Kedzierski 's post in 6/207 regarding Andy's use of the word 'yard' to denote a back garden, the word is used here (Belfast NI) to describe a back area of a terraced house, usually (but not always) concreted over. Regarding the 'Bands that Suck' thread, there really are too many that I detest to list. An abridged version would include: U2 (sanctimonious, pretentious arse of a singer), any poodle hair band, Travis (deadly dull), The Verve (dull, dull dull), Oasis (crap of the highest order - sound like The Beatles my arse), and that's just off the top of my head. Regarding 'nadgers' I believe this refers to one's love eggs, deriving I think from Gonads. Thanks for letting a lurker delurk and vent spleen. Gary
------------------------------ Date: 26 Jul 2000 12:51:32 -0700 From: unna@worldmailer.com Subject: Beyond Bad Message-ID: <20000726195132.26596.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net> Alright, so we've gone past artists that suck and are now listing those bands that make us physically sick. O.K. It is with much physical hatred and hostility that I type this "artists" name.... Neil Young! His voice makes me cringe. His guitar playing sounds as if the guitar is begging to be euthanized. Back in college my housemates had a band and they would cover Neil Young songs. Consequently, many of those housemates are heroin heads now... I really don't want my Chalkhill brethren to think that I have a violent streak, but if we were cave people I would definitely be clubbing old Neil down to an unrecognizable and silent bundle of fur and stringy hair.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:57:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Al LaCarte <allacarte@yahoo.com> Subject: Simon And Bloody Garfunkle Message-ID: <20000726195713.28521.qmail@web1602.mail.yahoo.com> All: I think that Simon's best moments were with his Unkle Garf. Songs like "Scarborough Fair" and "Mrs. Robinson" are still great. Moreover, I think that "Graceland" was an overrated piece-of-crap that gained attention because of the South African connection. And finally, "Loves Me Like A Rock" still makes me want to ralph... Al
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