Chalkhills Digest, Volume 14, Number 9 Saturday, 15 March 2008 Topics: Tributosaurus became XTC Ashes to Ashes, Rock to Rock Andy and Robyn Hitchcock 'Bored With Music' Follow Up Inspired by The Dukes.... Administrivia: To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is compiled with Digest 3.8f (John Relph <relph@tmbg.org>). We play the songs much too loud.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:51:14 -0500 From: Bill Sherlock <bdsherlock@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Tributosaurus became XTC Message-ID: <47D52EC2.3080402@sbcglobal.net> Hi Chalkers, I went to the Tributosaurus becomes XTC show Friday night with high expectations, and boy were they met! Uber-fan and T-saurus member Dag Juhlin stole the show with his rendition of "No Thugs in Our House" and pleaded with Dave Gregory, who sent a very nice email to the band that was read by the band leader, to get this music out on the road. Dag even regaled the audience with his tale of hanging out in the parking lot of WXRT in 1989 hoping to give Andy his band's tape, only to have his hopes dashed as he listened to Andy mock people who do that as the guys played and bantered on the radio. He did manage to get his guitar autographed by all 3 guys and I bet he wouldn't sell it for anything. I told Jamie Lowe as we walked in that I felt a little bit like I should be wearing Spock ears to the show, and believe me, I endured no little bit of mockery from my wife, but the band were beyond good. Live strings for "1000 Umbrellas", live horns for "It's Nearly Africa", and one of the guitarist's daughter for the child vocals on "Dear God". An 18 song set that lasted 2 hours of pure pop bliss. It's such a shame this music is not performed live more often. I came too late to XTC to see them live but now I almost feel like I have. Dag, if you're reading this, keep the faith and let us know how we can get a recording of the show. It was great to connect to other Chalkers Jerry Kaelin and Jeff from Milwaukee, too. Jerry even brought swag! Chris Derfler, I wish you'd found me too! Setlist (also available at Tributosaurus.com): Generals and Majors Burning With Optimism's Flames Love on a Farmboy's Wages Poor Skeleton Steps Out English Roundabout 1000 Umbrellas Prince of Orange Science Friction When You're Near Me I Have Difficulty One of the Millions It's Nearly Africa Mayor of Simpleton No Thugs in Our House The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead Bill Sherlock
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:21:58 +0000 From: Mark Fisher <mark-fisher@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Ashes to Ashes, Rock to Rock Message-ID: <9F554F12-54D5-41FD-B03C-62BE7B4FB001@blueyonder.co.uk> In this week's edition of Ashes to Ashes, the BBC TV series in which a modern-day policewoman in a coma wakes up in 1983 (which isn't nearly as good as Life on Mars, in which a policeman in a coma woke up in the 1970s), there was an extended sequence set to Sgt Rock. No words were spoken between the two actors, but the song's reference to the battle of the sexes fitted the theme perfectly. Am I the only one to have noticed that White Music had its 30th birthday a couple of months ago? --- Mark
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:45:05 -0700 From: "Benjamin Lukoff" <blukoff@alvord.com> Subject: Andy and Robyn Hitchcock Message-ID: <2a720bde0803121545l4596ad4ch8fc208a42741fe83@mail.gmail.com> Saw on Audities and Fegmaniax! that Andy and Robyn Hitchcock are recording an album together in Andy's shed. Great news! Anyone know any more details? The highlights of my professional life at Amazon.com were interviewing Andy by phone and Robyn in person at a live "in-store" performance. This ALMOST makes me wish I were back there so I could cover it somehow. Will it be on Yep Roc? Ben
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:08:23 +0000 From: <homefrontradio@hotmail.com> Subject: 'Bored With Music' Follow Up Message-ID: <BAY128-W32FBBF0E20C42D1B20C46AD0080@phx.gbl> Boring technical rant ahead, so feel free to skip if you're not interested in the properties of CD sound. Ryan Anthony wrote:>A few months ago, one of our brethren (forgot the>name, sorry) fretted that all the music in his>sizeable collection sounded stale, and asked the rest>of us what he should do. The 'Hill, even in its>current state of snooze, did a good job of>recommending fresh new soundmongers.>I have another idea. Have you downloaded iTunes and>imported all your CDs? If not, do it now; it's free,>and I'll wait. That was me, Ryan. I've devoted a lot of time to figuring this out lately, so I'll try and keep this really simple: Despite the sniggers, it's not simply a matter of getting old, or being bored. Random play won't help. I identified the problem as being modern mastering techniques, including a reliance on over-compression and the lack of headroom on modern cds. This leads to an excess of `clipped' waveform shapes in the music. Pre-1991 or so, you're safe, but since then with each year it's increased to ridiculous amounts. (And yeah, I could return to my older cds, but I simply know them backwards to be too excited by them). Since a flat `clip' is an Unnatural Sound that doesn't occur in nature, it produces Random Harmonic Responses. As you raise your volume on the CD player, those Random Harmonics create their own Random Harmonics, and it grows exponentially until what you end up with is an entire Random Noise Field overlayed on top of the song you're listening to. Because the dynamics don't change, those frequencies are being constantly sounded, so fatigue the ear and make music tiring to listen to. If you listen on your Ipod headphones or in a car, it probably won't fatigue you as quickly due to the high-noise background, (though I'm very suspicious about the damaging effects on your hearing in the long term if frequencies are constantly being sounded for minutes at a time with no relief). But try to listen in a low-noise volume on a high end stereo at an immersive volume, and you'll take part in what constitutes an aural endurance test. If you're ever halfway through a song you like, and you're bored, or tired, and don't know why, and stop it early, even when you thought you loved it - it's probably listening fatigue kicking in. The other problem is the mp3 format itself. Although it was sold as removing the information that our ears don't hear, we simply do hear it, with the results mp3 is a lossy format. Once my own recordings, which are originally recorded in a 32 bit float, are reduced down to even a 16-bit 320kps mp3, the quality has drastically dropped, mainly affecting the presence and separation of each part. It sounds so much smaller, so less exciting. That's all the proven science out of the way, so now I'll move into my own theories on this: I'm convinced all this affects my emotional response to music: how involving the music is, how it maintains my interest during the album running time, how soon I want to hear it again. The playing might be good, the songwriting might be good, the lyrics might be interesting, but I'll wonder why I don't don't like the cd. Nothing's obviously wrong with it. So why can I listen to it a few times and not remember the songs? Why does nothing stand out? Why does a 50 minute album feel so *long*, to the extent I'm just wishing it would end? I've come to the conclusion that no matter how much time I put into those loudly mastered and compressed albums, they'll never repay it, because *they're simply designed to make listening unpleasant*. So, rather than whining about it, I decided to try and *fix the problem* and see what would happen. I bought two cds recently. The first was `The Good China' by Australian Power Pop band `Icecream Hands'. I've followed this band for years now, but on first listen I realized they'd lost me, and there was nothing I could do about it. I started it playing, and turned it down. It was still too loud. I turned it down again. It didn't help. The sound is so loud and in-your-face that it's unbearable to listen to, and the sound is too tightly compressed to try and repair the damage. Even remastered to half the volume, it's still going to be dynamically boring. Silence is simply preferable to being blasted by clipped frequencies for 45 minutes. Now I know what to listen for, I could have listened to that album in-store and written off the purchase and saved myself the money, which is what I'll do in future, as I have no use for $30 coasters that plays test pattern frequencies with songs buried under them. My second purchase was the self-titled album by Canadian band `the Foreign Films'. It was a 2 CD set that runs about 85 minutes, so I was prepared for quite a slog to get to know the album and knew I'd never be able to listen to it in one hit. It was loudly mastered, but not excessively compressed. Basically, it could be fixed, using this tool: http://www.cutestudio.net/ It uses algorithms and stereo field comparisons to repair clipping, and then drops the entire volume of each track by -6dbs, (roughly halving the volume). It defaults to only declip if there's more than 100 instances per minute, but I set it to remove every single instance. I happened to have a lot of downtime at the moment where I was stuck in one place, so I had more than enough time to listen to the album and was impressed with the results. The first thing I noticed was that I could listen to it *really* loud, at the kind of immersive volume I did when I was a kid. My stereo rarely goes over 20 anymore - I was listening to it at 60, and it sounded great. Lots of separation, enough that I could notice all the great little touches in the music. The second thing I gradually realized was that the music wasn't making me tired at all. Most 74 minute cds are endurance tests - I've actually listened to the entire thing more than once in a row, once again, like I used to be able to do as a kid. The third thing is that I could remember the songs after two listens. I've looked at entire track listings before and not recognized even one hook after many listens. I could remember the hook of each song. Basically, all this means is my money wasn't wasted on an album I'd never be able to love. (I'd also recommend the album to Jason Falkner fans, or fans of psychedelic power pop in general). I can play it loud, and sing along. Basically, that music-loving teenager is still there inside of me, after all. Now, if you'd think that I've convinced myself of this, here's two other cases to consider: - The only band i've heard in the last couple of years that i've felt passionate fandom for was Michigan's 'Great Lakes Myth Society', to the extent i know the albums backwards and have lost myself in them. On examination of the wavefiles it now makes perfect sense - they're mastered so there's only a handful of clips on their cds, (as opposed to something like Crowded House's 448 clips in *one song* like 'Don't Stop Now' for example). Once again, amount of clipping and emotional response are interrelated for me. - My 60-year-old mother recently bought a 2002 remaster of `Bat Out Of Hell' by Meatloaf, and had commented on how horrible it sounded, and how she used to think Meatloaf could sing but it just sounded `boring' and `flat'. I didn't voice the problem to her, but had my suspicions went for a look the next day and tracked down an 80's cd release of it in a second-hand shop here, and told her to try that one. A week later she commented on how much better it sounded - no small wonder since the 2002 release was *three times* louder, and hugely compressed, basically squishing the widescreen epic quality of the song down into a pan and scan television version. The album was never my cup of tea, but even I could notice how the percussion had all but vanished in the new master, and how the peaks and valleys of the music were now just a flat road. Am I the only one who thinks this is bizarre, that with all our advances in technology, music technology seems to be going *backwards*? One of my recording programmes can float 64 bit sound - so why are we still paddling around in the 16 bit lossy pool? Oh, that's right, the crap sound of mp3 became the standard due to *ease of piracy* and online file sharing, so, in a way, we've gotten the sound format our actions deserved. Of course, once again, none of this happens with vinyl. I wonder if I can talk my sister out of her `Compleat Beatles' vinyl boxset?
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:24:33 +0100 (CET) From: Gary Nicholson <member@snurge.fsnet.co.uk> Subject: Inspired by The Dukes.... Message-ID: <18913593.131141205421873351.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> Dear Chalkhills Last year, I posted a message to Chalkhills about a number of tracks I had recorded - designed to be an homage to all the bands I wish I could have been in when I was 16 or so. Just as The Dukes of Stratosphear had done with Chips from the Chocolate Fireball and its constituent parts. Well, now, I've gone and released it on CD. Originally, I asked Dave Gregory to produce - he was very kind and sent an email saying he was too busy - but was very encouraging. Next stop was Pat Collier - ex member (and producer) of The Vibrators, producer of Katrina and the Waves, Robin Hitchcock. The Soft Boys, House of Love etc. A very kind man who wears his glasses on a bit of string and drinks tea from a Bob the Builder mug. The world needs more of that. I got some great feedback from fellow Chalkhillians, one of whom called me 'The Punk Rutles', which I thought was immensely wonderful. Anyhow, it's now available in the USA from CDBaby http://cdbaby.com/cd/sniffingandcursing at USD19.99. You can hear all of the tracks in lo-fi on that. I'd draw your attention to track 5 'Ellis Island' by The Nebular Nobsticks which might draw its inspiration from Swindon's finest. You can play 'Guess the band' with the rest. If you're in the UK or rest of Europe, just look at my website www.sniffingandcursing.com and you can get it via PayPal at GBP10.00 including P&P. Go to 'Buy Now'. You can tell that this is my first attempt at building a website - ah well, I'll learn soon. Anyone wishing to volunteer to get the website kicked into shape is welcome however. Amazon UK and iTunes etc will follow on its official release date of 1st April 2008. Another homage to 25 O'Clock I suppose. Tee-hee. Yours, Gary Nicholson Rather excited. Winchester. UK. And it's raining.
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