Chalkhills Digest Volume 11, Issue 31
Date: Saturday, 9 July 2005
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 11, Number 31
Saturday, 9 July 2005
Topics:
Musicians: technique vs feel
RE: Ringo
London attacks
US Sequence
Ringo/Sean Altman/P. Hux
Ringo in the Head
Drummers
Come and play in our Brian Wilson sandpit
Um sodd it
Andy Partridge
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:48:18 +0100 From: "Dewi Thompson" <dewijunk@btinternet.com> Subject: Musicians: technique vs feel Message-ID: <007a01c5830b$4e1057e0$498110ac@lorien.co.uk> Wayne Klein wrote "Anyhow, my two cents for what its worth--I'd rather listen something played less than perfect with soul and inspiration than something played flawlessly without any sense that it was actually played by a human being." Blimey, you're not kidding. I'll take Townshend over Steve Vai anyday.
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:50:07 -0400 From: "jdmack01@verizon.net" <jdmack01@verizon.net> Subject: RE: Ringo Message-ID: <380-2200574717507284@M2W085.mail2web.com> Harrsion wrote: >>Ringo had more nipples than anyone on this distribution list. Go on -- prove me wrong.>> Well, first you have to define "had". J. D.
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:41:12 +0000 From: blushift@comcast.net Subject: London attacks Message-ID: <070720051941.29169.42CD855700095EE3000071F122058891169B0007089C9A040D@comcast.net> Just a note to all of our friends in London and any who may have family or friends there. My heart goes out to all of you and hope you have made it through this tragedy safely. David
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:04:25 -0700 From: "Craig Vreeken" <vreeken@citlink.net> Subject: US Sequence Message-ID: <000001c58369$c32da380$0500a8c0@CRAIG2> Drums and Wires was my first XTC album. I bought it on vinyl when it came out in '79, and I bought the CD version soon after it was issued on CD. Didn't like the extra tracks in the middle, not because they were bad songs, but they just didn't seem part of the album that I had grown to love. I later bought the CD reissue (the one with the very cool mini-LP sleeve). Love the packaging but hate the sequencing. As an American, I'm just used to the LP sequence I "grew up" with. I want to resequence the CD as I remember the LP by burning another copy, with "Life Begins At The Hop" first and "Complicated Game" last. Without "Day In Day Out" and "Limelight." Alas, my vinyl copy is long gone and I don't remember the exact sequence. Can any listers help me? (I bought the import version of Nick Lowe's "Pure Pop for Now People", as it's known in the US (Jesus of Cool in the UK), and did the same thing to that. What a relief! I don't know what it is, but something about the sequence of tracks to albums I love just gets imprinted on my soul, even if it is not the "correct" UK version.) Thanks in advance for your help! Craig Vreeken http://www.citlink.net/~javalee/
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:08:17 -0700 From: Phil Corless <phil@pkmeco.com> Subject: Ringo/Sean Altman/P. Hux Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707200024.01ce8758@pop.mindspring.com> I have to second Michael Versaci's recommendation of the new P. Hux ELO covers CD. It's what a collection of cover songs should be: reinventions of the original, not just copies. If I want to hear a song that sounds like the original, I'll just listen to... the original. Duh. I hated The Rembrandts' "Making Plans For Nigel" for just this reason. Speaking of Ringo, he was on The Tonight Show the other night, plodding through another pleasant but forgettable song from his new CD, "Choose Love".... Mark Hudson was on stage with him, having more fun than Ringo. Glowering in the back was Mark Hart (Crowded House) on keyboards. What's his problem? He's playing with a Beatle?! I haven't read anything on here about Sean Altman's new covers CD, "Losing Streak"... It's a collection of live recordings from The Loser's Lounge series of tribute concerts in New York. Queen, Elvis Costello, George Harrison, The Zombies... Sean is brilliant on all of them. Go get it here: http://www.seanaltman.com/losingstreak.shtml - Phil
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Versaci <michael_versaci@yahoo.com> Subject: Ringo in the Head Message-ID: <20050708115029.94168.qmail@web30908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Folxtc, First of all, my condolences go out to all of you who have been terroized by the extremists. I could say a lot about how I feel my country has mishandled the "war on terror," and I could rail against the absurd religious beliefs that push people to do such acts of horror. And no good should come of it. In the yearly aftermath of September 11th, I said and thought some awful things that were born of my fear, anger and sadness. I am trying not to do that this time, because it is those feelings that lead to more horrendous acts of violence. For clarification, I am not saying that we should roll over and let these sorts of acts go unpunished. I'm only saying to be careful about blaming and labeling entire groups of people. My heart goes out to all the people who have been hurt by this, and I hope that someday soon we can find a solution to this nonsense. **** >Ed Miller< Welcome back Ed. >John has been quoted as responding to a question on whether Ringo was the best drummer in the world by saying that he wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles< He was really a pain sometimes, you know? He could have just said, "He was alright" or somehting like that. When Brian Epstien announced that he was writing an autobiograpy but didn't have name for it, John was quoted as saying, "How about 'Queer Jew?'" Some of you told me off-list and others on-list that indeed "Revolution in the Head" was availabe in the US and will be re-issued at the end of this month. I look forward to reading it. >Anyhow, my two cents for what its worth--I'd rather listen something played less than perfect with soul and inspiration than something played flawlessly without any sense that it was actually played by a human being.< Agreed, but fortunately those aren't our only two choices. There are indeed some Beatle records that are (to my ears) played flawlessly. There are lots of XTC records pre and post TC that boast soul, inpsiration and tecnique. For, me, Steely Dan does that as well as anybody but many other people have labled their music as "souless" and "sterile." >From The Beatles Recording Sessions by Mark Lewisohn: Ringo has a tremendous feel for a song, and he always helped us hit the right tempo first time. He was rock solid, and this made the recording of all the Beatles' songs so much easier.- George Martin. Lewisohn adds: It is true that only on a handful of occasions during all of the several hundred session tapes and thousands of recording hours can Ringo be heard to have made a mistake or wavered in his beat. His work was remarkably consistent and excellent from 1962 right through to 1970.< Yeah, well thankfuly everyone isn't as brutally honest as Lennon. Michael Versaci
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:40:27 +0100 (BST) From: STEPHEN JACKSON <planet_skaro@btinternet.com> Subject: Drummers Message-ID: <20050708134027.18570.qmail@web86601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Whilst I absolutely love Terry Chambers' playing (so much so I was obsessed with him (and John Doyle of Magazine) in the Eighties) and agree that he does have a distinctive style of playing. But as a drummer of 21 years, I would disagree with Dave Bancroft's comments re "Making Plans for Nigel"- Yes, it's a unique piece of playing- and it must be one of the most recognisable drum motifs of all time- but with regard to pedal control...."Making Plans for Nigel" is an absolute piece of piss to play. What was is more impressive was coming up with the pattern in the first place. And if we are to believe what we read AP had some thing to do with that. Steve
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:21:51 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Culnane <paulculnane@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Come and play in our Brian Wilson sandpit Message-ID: <20050708192151.66788.qmail@web86903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Well, the the more I hear Ben's stuff, I feel like little David (phhht - that's a feeble fart in the distance) compared to be in the company of Goliath, like (WOW!) - that's Benjy. Check the way Benjamin Gott rocks on our forthcoming LP! XTC samples and Paully ratbaggerry galore. In glorious digital stereo. Comin' to an outlet near you soon. Downloads and stuff. But special friends might just get one of those old-so-very-last-century "CDs" for being nice. You have been warned. Watch this space. It's called "playPEN" and it's our first, but not the last.... Check: www.playpenmusic.com WE LOVE YOU! Ben and Paul (have a listen) ...thanks for the airspace
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:15:10 +0100 From: "Belinda" <b.blanchard@btinternet.com> Subject: Um sodd it Message-ID: <005601c58466$b53dbd20$78df9951@davidfoh4tm83a> Hi all. Steve Somerset wrote: "Hi there, As subscribers to my Shadow Kabinet Mailing List know The Kab have a big fan in the shape of Alan Haber who hosts a great show on WEBR in Fairfax Virginia called Pure Pop. He has played tracks off HARK! and I also recorded a jingle for the show. A couple of months ago I was talking to Alan and he asked if he could get Andy on the show. I talked to Andy and put both parties in touch. The result has exceeded everyone's expectations and on Saturday 9th July Alan hosts a two hour XTC Pure Pop Special with an exclusive interview Andy Partridge and tracks from XTC and the Fuzzy Warbles albums. The show airs from 12-2pm. You won't want to miss this! To listen: go to http://www.fcac.org/webr/ and click on the "Listen Now" box. Steve Somerset" So I actually went out bought a diary then wrote the date and time in my diary to listen. Sat 9th at 12 till 2 Then realised - VIRGINIA ain't UK. So kinda missed the time. Threw diary in recycling bin. Went for a bike ride. Bugg-er innit. Belinda x
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:51:29 -0500 From: "James Lowe" <jamielowe@msn.com> Subject: Andy Partridge Message-ID: <BAY104-DAV9946382ECB9094394BD88BEDA0@phx.gbl> Hey XTC fans, Here's a little something you might want to tune into today. Alan Haber is a first class DJ and Pop music aficionado. Hello, all. I'm thrilled to announce that my exhaustive, two-hour interview with XTC's Andy Partridge will air this coming Saturday, July 9, from 12-2 pm EST on my Pure Pop radio show. This special program covers many key touchpoints of Andy's career; it's a fascinating chat, interspersed with tracks from XTC and Andy's Fuzzy Warbles series, and you might even learn about the future of Swindon's finest... Hope to see you this coming Saturday, July 9, from 12-2 pm EST. To listen, go to http://www.fcac.org/webr/<about:blank> and click on the Listen link. The interview will be posted on my buhdge site sometime down the road, but not in the same form, so don't miss this broadcast! Enjoy! Alan http://www.buhdge.com<about:blank> Best Regards, Jamie Lowe purveyor of the worlds best XTC bumper stickers http://www.billsherlock.org/xtc/<http://www.billsherlock.org/xtc/> If you can tell the difference between good advice and bad advice, you don't need advice. - Anonymous
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