Chalkhills Digest Volume 8, Issue 37
Date: Tuesday, 25 June 2002
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 8, Number 37
Tuesday, 25 June 2002
Topics:
Whoo boys, it's hott
My Tuppence
Re : Athlete
Re: June 15 question from Matt Hiner
Catching Up
RE: How Red Was My Hair, Inc.
Robyn Hitchock etc.
Re: wave the victory sign
Miscellaneous Bullsh*t and Assorted Cr*p
Re: Sgt. Rock
Today's vocabulary word
Looking to trade: I have XTC DVDs.
regional fans
Re: Jim likes Sgt. Rock...
Gathering t-shirt designs
A Bumper sticker someplace..
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:43:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Randles" <naciohb@yahoo.com> Subject: Whoo boys, it's hott Message-ID: <20020624054323.29689.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> Phil Hetherington <phil@emdac.demon.co.uk> wrote: "Subject: Oh! It's getting hot in here Must be something in the atmosphere And if you're not in the UK you won't know that that is the somewhat meaningless but extremely catchy lyric from the second single from Athlete, "You Got The Style"." Actually, if you are in the US and (sadly) watch MTV or BET, the first lyric about getting hot would remind you of the recent smash called "Hot in Herre" (yes, 2 R's!) by Nelly, the St. Louis rapper of mega popularity and much bling bling, but little talent. And I quote: "It's gettin hot in herre so take off all your clothes-" Then a female voice responds: "I am gettin so hot, I wanna take my clothes off..." repeat 50 or so times over a generic beat background, film a video set in a club with hot wet chickks and sweaty menn and there's your hit. Waiting for the XTC cover of this song... ;) A bit of XTC content: the release of the 2nd edition of Chalkhills & Children was supposed to be out June 11, correct? Has anyone bought/read/stolen this book and can tell me the new additions? Or at least let me know if my release date info is wrong? thanks. Sorry to sully the list with mention of *gasp!* Nelly- Jennifer, back to lurking
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 23:03:06 -0700 From: Kyla <kyla17@earthlink.net> Subject: My Tuppence Message-ID: <3D16B61B.A6C528BC@earthlink.net> Hullo All - Here it is, summer already -Thought I'd respond on a few points. I, too, have trouble separating an individual's art from their person-ness. I can't help it, I just do. So when I heard Harry Shearer, on his radio show, 'Le Show', read a magazine interview with Moby about how Mr. Moby, as a sort of 'hobby', likes to surreptiously take out his 'trouser sausage' and rub it against celebrities at parties, I decided I wouldn't ever have to bother buying anything of his. Now it seems like I've made the right decision. Hmmmm.... (And that new song 'We Are All Made of Stars' is very limp - whoever said it pales next to 'We're All Light' hit it right on the nosey.) Luv, Love, *LOVE!* the work of Paul Weller in any and all incarnations. Was very fond of Style Council - such a strong musical political statement in its time- and adore his subsequent solo work as well. He *never* disappoints in concert, except when he doesn't show up, like his last L.A. gig. I got all dressed up, went to the theatre with ticket in hand and everything! I don't think he luvs us Americans back *snif* I can suggest a way to affix your booklet for Coat in event of its coming loose. Rubber cement, used to create a permanent bond. Here's how - Lay down RC on one surface. Let dry. Lay down RC on second surface. Let dry. Press them together. Carefully, because the bond will not come apart again, so you can't reposition. You might want to practice on scrap paper first. XTC license plates? I like the suggestion 'NONSVCH' - very clever. Here in L.A., when vanity plates were new, a white Rabbit had the plate, 'IM L8'. I drive a low, little car, and was terrorized on the road by a giant jacked-up truck with the plate, 'UGOUNDR' - I gave it a wide berth, you betcha. Wisht I could attend the party in July and go see the Horse! Kyla *I've got nothing to say, but it's okay, good morning good morning good morning-ah!*
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:04:07 +0000 From: "Tim Brooks" <bridgered@hotmail.com> Subject: Re : Athlete Message-ID: <F87AEHLB8TrBHxvZ9aZ0000081d@hotmail.com> Well not seen them live but from the two singles endorse Phil's view, two great songs. Sounds very BLUR influenced to me, which is no bad thing, but why "Athlete", surely a better name could have been found. Another link to add http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/bbcsessions/session_report3.shtml where you can hear a recent radio session. Radio 6 BTW is really rather wonderful, each evening they play old radio concerts. This got me wondering, Have all of XTC's now been released on CD ? Also Phil's spot on with his "Elvis Costello Album of the year so far, by a long way" comment. Actually thus far I struggle to think of another album that really does it for me thus far, no doubt I will now receive some reccomendations? Tim PS Nice to see Mark Kirk with a posting. Where's your site gone???
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:33:36 -0500 From: "BRUCE HAUSTEIN" <hausteinb@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: June 15 question from Matt Hiner Message-ID: <F2037F9l6k88jbI8bP800003b6d@hotmail.com> It's my understanding that titles cannot be copyrighted. You can call your next CD "Abbey Road", if you like. Of course, where's your credibility if you cant's back up the title with product?
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:03:24 -0700 From: "Jonny Pop" <jbkxtc@ev1.net> Subject: Catching Up Message-ID: <001301c21b98$adf579c0$6a525d3f@johnjulie> Happy Summer's Cauldron to all, Long time, no post, so let me briefly catch up. Whomever the chap was that claimed to be the biggest XTC fan in Lexington, KY . . . only because I don't live there anymore. If I was still there, you'd have to settle for 2nd place, or maybe a Keeneland-style photo finish for 1st place (he'll know what that means). Secondly and importantly and excitedly (is that a word?) . . . at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena every 2nd Sunday is this ENORMOUS flea market that takes hours to go through. Well, this past visit, just two weeks ago, I am just about to leave after being there for a good two hours + with my girlfriend and the third from the last vendor before I walk out is the guy with hundreds of video tapes of rock bands on old tv shows, bootleg concerts, all laid out on blankets under a canopy. I scan for the name XTC hoping he may have "Look, Look", but no. So, I ask him if he has anything other than "Urgh: A Music War" with XTC and he pulls out "The Old Grey Whistle Test: Volume #6" which is the entire broadcast from days before "English Settlement" was released featuring the entire band performing "Yacht Dance" immediately followed by "No Thugs In Our House". Excited? Oh yeah. Andy at first looks slightly uncomfortable, but by mid-way through YD, he's all smiles and swagger. The video is surprisingly good quality, although definitely a few generations down. I'm hoping to have that segment burned to DVD by a friend possessing that technology, so if anyone has any other video, particularly "Look Look" who's interested in trading, lemme know. Also, I finally got a scanner and hope to have my photos from my trip to Swindon in Autumn of 2000 sent to Mssr. Relph & the right honorable Wes Long soon (John & Wes, can I send you a CD and what dpi/format/etc. specs would you prefer?). I'm heading back to the UK in September again, but don't think I'll make it to Swindon this trip, but, then again, maybe I will. Thanks, JK
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:06:44 -0500 From: "JH3" <jh3@winco.net> Subject: RE: How Red Was My Hair, Inc. Message-ID: <002a01c21ba1$8503d260$dc10a8c0@alternatech> From: "Edward Collier" <edward.collier@techop.co.uk>: >The telling phrase here is "put those recordings to a use that >would be obnoxious and insulting to the original artist". How >do you know? ... you have no factual basis (or you cite none) >for your assertion that any of the artists "repurposed" by Moby >_would_ find this either obnoxious or insulting. They may have >had no opportunity to register their feelings either way, and that >is regrettable, but for all you know they might have been delighted. I believe it's a well-known fact, Edward, that Roland "Boy Blue" Hayes, his drummer, *and* Vera Hall all believed very strongly that credit card holders should be allowed to carry a running balance, even if that meant heavy interest charges -- and that cards without spending limits are a really bad idea. What's more, none of them would have been caught *dead* in a foreign car such as a Volkswagen. (Admittedly, there are stories that Hayes' drummer was once ticketed for trying to occupy two parking spaces with a Yugo, but he would have definitely been alive at the time, and obviously it was a trumped-up charge anyway - a Yugo can barely take up one parking space, much less two.) Regardless, it's far worse than "regrettable" that they weren't given a choice in the matter, isn't it? *That's* the central issue here, not whether or not they would have objected if asked. Seems to me. John "non-Yugo owner" Hedges
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 00:33:00 +0530 From: "Sughosh Varadarajan" <aqualung@hotpop.com> Subject: Robyn Hitchock etc. Message-ID: <001e01c21bb1$e597fe20$96b0fea9@sughosh> Ryan Anthony said: >I thought India was a brazen land-grab (does that include all of Kashmir, Sughosh?), Ah ! I wish! Nobody knows exactly how much of Kashmir is ours or theirs I think so I'll let that be..leaving that aside, I do claim the rest of India, and I don't think that's a brazen land-grab, cos if you ask for XTC in this country , you have to spell it out or else they hand you "violin ecstasy"or something like that! Not that they have XTC CDs either..to the best of my knowledge, there are 3 XTC CDs in India.. copies of Big Express & Wasp Star at my place, and a forlorn copy of Fossil Fuel which has been lying in a record store in Bangalore waiting to be picked up, for some 2 years at least! James Michael Isaacs said: >PS John- I do know Tony. He likes Robyn Hitchcock like I do, too. Which is lots. Me TOO! Me TOO! I ADORE THE GUY! Heard Underwater Moonlight & Fegmania so far..both amazing! Hoping to get my hands on "I often dream of trains"soon... Cheers all! Sughosh
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:39:17 -0400 From: "Brian" <mattone@bhip.infi.net> Subject: Re: wave the victory sign Message-ID: <001001c21bbf$36f62640$2d04f343@brian> Tschalkgerz! > I like Sgt. Rock. > > Jim I like, too. -Brian http://www.stonetrek.com
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:00:43 -0500 From: Brown <i.sundog@verizon.net> Subject: Miscellaneous Bullsh*t and Assorted Cr*p Message-ID: <20020624210043.RYIA22455.out016.verizon.net@darkstar> Ok, a few things, Chalk chilens: First of all, good to see ya back, Relphie, did ya have a nice vacation? ..and just where the heck is my authentic Mt. St. Helens' volcanic rock ashtray you promised to bring me, hmm?!?! <G> Secondly, not to state the obivious, but it appears that a good many of us do in fact agree.. Moby is a dick.. 'Moby' + 'Dick'.. Moby DICK, geddit? Ah, I just love safisteekated humor, don't you? ..And those of you who are incensed that someone dare to have a negative opinion about a public figure, and then furthermore has the cheek to post it on this forum? Well, duckies, to youz I say.. Lighten up! It's all about point/counterpoint, provided one keeps it from becoming a personal attack. Debate is what makes life interestin'.. are you guys with me? Thought so. And it's also agreed that Harrison is *still* King Of This Hill, as far as I'm concerned. Sorry to embarrass you, HB, but *somebody* had to say it! :) Let's see.. hmmm.. Oh, yes... Ed responded to Harrison's fair warning: <<>PS: Quit fucking with me, Bert. It's pretty goddamned obvious to me and >everybody else what you're trying to do, so knock it off.<< With this: <<It's not obvious to me. Care to explain?>> No, Ed, he does not care to explain. Stop being so obtuse and figure it out. Sheesh! A *final* word with regard to all of this back biting, and bra strap pulling that's been going on lately 'round these parts.. I just want to say that all that this petty mud slinging manages to do is to lower the fairly consistent level of civility and comradery that we XTC geeks enjoy on this mailing list.. So the next one of you who tries to taint the fabulous, loving atmosphere that generally prevails by pulling something underhanded or mean spirited, I warn you that I will personally beat the living daylights out of your sorry rump.. You all got that?? GOOD! Now play nice, kidz! And now for something *completely* different... Did any of you monkeys actually read the Get Rhythm magazine article on the lads? And if so, why have you not had the decency to transcribe it in its entirety, and submit it to John so that our fearless leader can toss it up on Chalkhills.org for all to enjoy, hmmm? Oy...That's right.. Mom always told me that I'd catch more flies with honey than vinegar, so let me rephrase my question, (batting eyelashes, dimpled smile) ..Would one of you darling starlings who has had the good fortune to have gotten your hands on this blasted magazine (I had no luck), would you please, pretty please share the article with the rest of your Chalk familia? Danke in advance! Ah, it's ever so warm outside today, but thank Goddess there is a nice breeze blowing in from the Pacific.. I'm finito with my work for the afternoon, so it's off to the shady patio with an icy cold one, and a bit of Black Sea blasting on the stereo... Now if you'll pardon me, I've got a date with comfy chaise lounge and I don't want to be late, nosiree.. And, yes, you are ALL invited to join me.. But if you want to score the highly coveted comfy chaise lounge next to moi, then remember to bring a six pack of Beck's to share with me, ya got it? ;o) Big ole bear hugs all around, Debora Brown
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:03:39 EDT From: GnXn282@aol.com Subject: Re: Sgt. Rock Message-ID: <37.29646855.2a48e32b@aol.com> In 8-36, Matt Hiner said... > "And I am the only person who actually LIKES Sgt. Rock? I mean, its a > great pop song on what I think is one of the greatest pop albums of all > time." Well, buddy, I must say that not only do I like it, but it used to be my favorite song on the whole album. I think we all could use a Sgt. Rock in our lives. Everybody's old friend and sparring partner, Justin L. Abrotsky
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:31:43 -0500 From: Brown <i.sundog@verizon.net> Subject: Today's vocabulary word Message-ID: <20020624213142.MPQD4569.out012.verizon.net@darkstar> Obivious-something that is obvious, but in a less obvious sort of way. Obiviously.<G>
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:53:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "" <radiosinmotion@iwon.com> Subject: Looking to trade: I have XTC DVDs. Message-ID: <20020625005315.7B71627C5F@email.iwon.com> Ok, a few of you are interested, but nobody has contacted me who has anything to trade that I need. I am not interested in selling these, only trade. I have a few DVD's which I will trade: XTC: Look Look (Pre-1982 Video collection) URGH A Music War URGH is about a 9 quality and look look is about an 8. I also have Boingo, The Cars, They Might Be Giants and Devo on DVD. These DVD's are full DVD, not VCDs, and will play on all DVD players. I am interested mostly in their post-1982 videos that are not on look look. I am also interested in any rare studio tracks that are not on any of the commercial CD's. I have some CD's, including one or two from Wes, but not all CD's. I am also interested in any other cool 80's music...
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:08:30 -0400 From: "Ted Harms" <tmharms@library.uwaterloo.ca> Subject: regional fans Message-ID: <NDBBKGMDOKBCFDLBMPGOKEBLDJAA.tmharms@library.uwaterloo.ca> Well, I wonder how much of Ontario I can claim? Is anybody going to get upset if I raise my ensign over the south-west? For now I won't be so bold to include the Golden Horseshoe/armpit of Lake Ontario area but will happily annex it if nobody complains... Ted Harms | Library, Univ. of Waterloo | tmharms@uwaterloo.ca "I needed a drink, I needed a lot of life insurance, I needed a vacation, I needed a home in the country. What I had was a coat, a hat and a gun." Phillip Marlowe
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: milo fadite <milofadite@philipkdick.com> Subject: Re: Jim likes Sgt. Rock... Message-ID: <20020625174420.E1FBC3ECC@sitemail.everyone.net> Hmm... I like Sgt. Rock too, nice one Jimmy Boy Milo -- The Gospel According to Philip K. Dick: A Film-maker's Journal. Find out more about this upcoming documentary at http://www.philipkdick.com/film/
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 20:18:48 +0100 From: The Worrier Queen <myrone@tesco.net> Subject: Gathering t-shirt designs Message-ID: <3D18C219.1B61A470@tesco.net> 'ello due to a number of factors including absent mindedness the vote for the t-shirt designs will be closed on 12:01am (GMT +1) on Saturday 29th June. They will cost approximately #7-50 ($US 10.50) Please vote - even if you're not attending the Gathering - and before I forget here's the URL again: http://salmagundi.0catch.com/final/index.htm If there's anyone who would like to attend the Gathering please get in touch with spagyric_2002@yahoo.co.uk back to lurk mode Queenie This has been An Uffington Pony Goddesses production, powered by the beating of hearts.
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 22:03:54 -0500 From: "Jamie Lowe" <jamielowe@msn.com> Subject: A Bumper sticker someplace.. Message-ID: <000901c21cbe$39083b80$cbcc2a3f@unlpm> Chalkholders, A few digests back someone was seeking XTC bumper stickers and it got me to thinking.... What if I could offer a 4X6 (stick it on the bumper) white on green Uffington Horse and xtc logo similar to the English Settlement album cover, and a white on clear piece that is glueless designed to attach to the inside of a window for about $4 pp for US and $5 for EU and AUS buyers. How many of you would be interested? We'd put up a web-site so you can see before you buy if necessary or I could email you a photo. It would also have to be a check or money order transaction. I don't foresee production of the numbers needed to justify a credit card payment arrangement. Contact me off-list if this is something you might be up for. jamielowe@msn.com Cheers, Jamie NP: The Doves Last Broadcast Q Magazine claims the Doves song Sulpher Man is "like some great lost XTC song" (they should be so lucky to find it). I'm on my fourth listen and the album is just now starting to appeal to me.
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