Chalkhills Digest Volume 8, Issue 30
Date: Saturday, 18 May 2002
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 8, Number 30
Saturday, 18 May 2002
Topics:
Re: The *truth* about "Coat..."
John Foxx
New Colin Moulding interview at BBC Wiltshire
Most bazaar cover of XTC ever.
Re: John Foxx (where is that guy now, anyway?)
Re: Lost in Music
tooting my own horn
Pearls Revolving
Making Plans for Weezer
a small bit of trainspotting
OT: SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
A Nouveau's Riche Should Exceed his Grasp
The craziness of it all
Wow, you al know that it's not a drug...
Moby Dickhead
COMC liner notes
King For A Day update (17may02)
Lazy Susan Revolving
A steal?
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:41:08 +0200 From: Annalena Hedman <harang@pdd.nu> Subject: Re: The *truth* about "Coat..." Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020515091051.00a0ac60@mail.norr.worldnet.se> Dera all! I'm Annalena, I'm Swedish and I'm a Chalker. I'm no less than 35 years old and XTC has been one of the great soundtracks of my life - from my punk influenced teens when I bought my first XTC-album, (Drums & Wires, what else), to the other year when I gave birth to my second daughter with "Easter" spining round my poor head. They've always been there, and they didn't even know about it! Anyhow, I've been following the chalkhills discussions on Coat for a while, and since I haven't bought the album yet for some reason, I'd like to thank Jeff for his convincing outburst on the obvious reasons for me to go out and get it. I'd just like to know how you managed to get those signatures? I'm no autograph hunter either, but I've got David Byrne's (in gold letters) on my copy of Strange Rituals, and I discovered that it does give me some pleasure. So - how did you do it and could I do the same? Love to y'all Annalena
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:23:02 +0100 From: "Will" <skellington@clara.co.uk> Subject: John Foxx Message-ID: <001901c1fbe9$bca27640$671f9ed9@oemcomputer> > Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 02:21:18 +0000 > From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com> > Subject: We are all made of jelly > Message-ID: <F77uZH9Oc08H9gUhFMw0000daee@hotmail.com> > Give me a John Foxx/Ultravox record any day (where is that guy now, anyway?) I went to his official site - www.metamatic.com , but it hasn't been updated since last November. This is odd as a new album - The Pleasures of Electricity -came out a short while ago. He's been gigging a fair bit over the last couple of years and now works with a guy called Louis Gordon. Haven't heard the new one (okay....haven't *seen* the new one although I've just found it on Amazon) but his last effort - Shifting City - was everything you'd hope from a John Foxx album and more! And of course all of his '80's albums have recently been reissued too. Any help ? Love Will.....xx "It's not number one who will come out alive It's the freak in the corner with his eyes on fire" Cooper Temple Clause......Let's Kill Music
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 13:17:16 +0100 From: Daniel Garrett <daniel.garrett@bbc.co.uk> Subject: New Colin Moulding interview at BBC Wiltshire Message-ID: <3DED83D40BE3D311933600606D9397D10236AD8C@sthbsxu03.bs.bbc.co.uk> There is a brand new 45min Real Audio interview with Colin Moulding at http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/entertainment/music/xtc.shtml There is also an opportunity to win a copy of the Coat of Many Cupboards box-set.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 05:46:33 -0700 From: "Damian Wise (Foulger)" <damian.wise@nlightphotonics.com> Subject: Most bazaar cover of XTC ever. Message-ID: <3CE1F639.5423.49C4198@localhost> Dear Chalk-folk, I've possess a few tapes of XTC covers produced by talented members of Chalkhills, but none of the covers come close in bazaarness of the following: http://www.dictionaraoke.com/index-original.html Scroll down to XTC and you will discover a cover of Senses Working Over Time as performed by the Merriam Webster dictionary! Sounds weird - it is. I don't think that it has the catchiness of the orginal, but it does have a certain charm! Dames tWd -- 'People will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with welcome written on it.' - AP
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 08:47:34 -0500 From: steve <steveschiavo@mac.com> Subject: Re: John Foxx (where is that guy now, anyway?) Message-ID: <4F3A9A46-680A-11D6-9BB1-0050E445D419@mac.com> Dunks: > Give me a John Foxx/Ultravox record any day (where is that guy now, > anyway?) I think he's indulging in an illogical and idiotic lifestyle choice. He did put out a couple of nice instrumental albums. - Steve
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:14:51 +0000 From: "Roger Blass" <rogerblass@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Lost in Music Message-ID: <F70MaMo5fFRFY1OtAgI0001604c@hotmail.com> John Bartlett wrote: > >This rang a bell with me about a book published here in the >UK by one of Newells' band mates, and fellow XTC fanatic, Giles Smith. I second John's recommendation! I read that book around the same time I read High Fidelity, a similar work, and Smith's book was a better read for my money, hands down. Of course, being a Newell/XTC fan didn't hurt my appreciation for it. My favorite passage was when Smith realized why Newell was able to build a music career while he couldn't. I won't give this moment away, but it's something that might hit home with musical members of lists such as this one. - Roger
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:09:21 -0400 From: Mitch Friedman <mitchf@mindspring.com> Subject: tooting my own horn Message-ID: <v03007800b9084f910134@[165.247.28.218]> Hello Hillians, I too am greatly excited to hear Becki DiGregorio's upcoming cd. She's a fantastic musician, writer, and just plain sweet woman too. Plus she's got our favorite former XTCer back on tracks with her. And she's covered "Susan Revolving" with help from the lyrical touch-up biro of Andy Partridge. Who else can stake a claim to such an enticing, impending, XTC sprinkled new release? Why me, that's who. I would have encouraged/allowed someone else to toot my horn for me but since I haven't really shared the results with anyone else yet I'll have to do it myself . . . In 1999 I released my first cd "The Importance of Sauce" which several of you kind folks were nice enough to take off my hands. The opening track featured Dave Gregory on some mind blowingly fast electric guitars. Well in about 8 weeks I will be offering up my new cd entitled "Fred". . . Yes I've once again snared Dave for some equally dizzying 6 string bass, E-bow, Rickenbacker and even cello playing on my song "Brother Nature" (one of the ones I wrote for and in the presence of Ray Davies during his songwriting course in '98). But that's not the end of the story. I originally asked Andy if he would play on it and in the process of his turning me down because of being too busy and then changing his mind a week later and asking if he could do it and my having to turn him down because Dave already agreed to play on the track, (take a breath) Andy then made me the following offer: "Ok. Have you got any lyrics that you're really happy with/like the shape of/are proud of/ that don't have a melody yet? Send me those lyrics and I'll write the music and then you can record it." Well a few days later I faxed Andy my lyrics to a song I never finished writing called "I Wish I Was a Kid Again" and four hours later he phoned me back to say that he liked the lyrics a lot and he had already written a melody and chord structure and that is was "a piece of violent skiffle"! So to make a long story short, I'm now halfway done recording the song and it's the last of the 15 songs to be finished for "Fred". Hopefully it will be just a matter of time before I'll be mentioning this whole shabbang once more here on the Hills and letting you know where you can get a copy if you're so inclined. If you're interested in reading my lyrics, let me know and I'll email them to you. Over and out, Mitch
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:16:34 -0400 From: KEVIN.WOLLENWEBER@jpmorgan.com Subject: Pearls Revolving Message-ID: <OF2462C542.0313B555-ON85256BBA.00627059@chase.com> Hey, there, fellow HILL dwellers: While I have not been contributing in each edition of the DIGEST, I have been reading your comments and, to some of you, I have been responding eagerly off-list since other musicians are often brought up within the amounts of talk. I will add one other name amid those other musicians and groups talked about herein--The Pearlfishers. Those of you who like the whole flood of wonderful music out there seemingly inspired by directions taken through the years of music made by XTC, either as a full band or as a duo, I think The Pearlfishers definitely belong near the top of your stack of new releases. I just picked up the domestic edition of their previous album, THE SECRET UNDERWORLD OF THE TALL POPPIES. I'd heard one tune from it on an NPR broadcast here in New York from Fordham University, and I knew from that point that I'd really like this album and anything else they've done. If you haven't heard of 'em yet, please give 'em a try and, if you have, please, please, please clue *ME* in on waht else they've done, either as import or domestic. I forget the title of the most recent album, but as I said, this one preceeds it but finds them still at the top of their game. If anyone is familiar with the Young Fresh Fellows or Apples in Stereo (with a bit of Burt Bachrach thrown into the mix), you'll surely like The Pearlfishers. Sure wish that the music industry cared as much for this stuff as I and some of my fellow HILL dwellers do, but, hey, at least we're getting XTC mini-LP sleeve editions soon! Can hardly wait!!! I am wondering one thing, one minor little question-- Will there be a vast amount of difference between the mini-LP sleeve editions and the regular jewel case editions? I know that ICE Magazine said that the jewel case editions will be "full booklets", but will those booklets contain much more than the lyrics? If so, I guess I'll have to just breathe in deep and get both editions just to have those wonderfully sardonic liner notes that the former Dukes (of Stratosphere) might care to write. My curiosity always gets the better of me when it comes to reissues, I just bought the import edition of the Dukes comp, CHIPS FROM THE CHOCOLATE FIREBALL, even though no one has told me whether or not it contains bonus material. I'm just assuming it is digitized and that it is *NOT* tampered with. AGain, I've heard no talk among CHALKHILLS' children about this particular title or the pros and cons about the reissues as they appeared overseas, but almost anything has to be better than the analogue editions that have been out there for years in scant packaging. I wish the DUKES disk was issued in some sort of mini-LP sleeve edition, but... If we are to judge by the songs included from each album on COAT, the new masters will sound amazing, and I will enjoy the FUZZY WARBLES collections as well, especially if rare B-sides abound. Oh, I like the alternate takes, but the B-sides, like "Always Winter, Never Christmas", are the absolute reason to restock your shelves with the new issues of these 10 wonderful disks...and mini-LP's take up far less room than those cumbersome, non-artistic jewel cases, especially where double albums are concerned. This has been one incredible year for reissues. I only wish they'd space 'em apart, far enough for us music collectors to easily choose the best of them without feeling as if we have to sacrifice some new and inventive (and more current) music out there, or cancel a meal or two! Otherwise, I am thankful to those of us on the HILL who are close enough to XTC that we become privy to the comings and goings of Andy and Colin and what other projects they are working dilligently to produce for us all. I'll always wish that the radio airwaves were friendly toward diversity, but I've enough outlets that cater to the rabid collector; so I'll know just what music will be available and when. Then there is always my classic animated cartoon jones, but I'll save that for off-list discussions if anyone is interested. And, oh yes, I will keep an ear out for Becky's posting herein about her music. pre-release reviews have been good thus far, herein, and you've won me over, Mr. Sherwood, with your own summation of material that has been floating out there to whet our appetite for this album. As for whether or not XTC should do occasional live performances, I've one other thing to say--it has been said of other bands that, when a new album is produced just coming off a whirlwind tour (a la "Dylan or Mr. McGuinn), a musician or group is sometimes said to be incredibly pumped up and ready to lend that warmth and energy to the studio album with a minimal amount of tricks. The tour, therefore, to some musicians, has been the warmup for the studio projects, but there are exceptions to that rule. Just look at some of the music that our favorite bands of the distant past have made after group members have decided to stop the arduous task of touring for good. We can easily focus on Beatles recordings that had gotten more colorful and experimental once the lads decided to quit the global jaunts. It gives artists time to settle down and become comfortable with playing again; so I guess one could look at both sides favorably. There will always be acts that allow the grueling edge of touring to be their rehearsals for the bigger, more extravagant projects, and there are others who need that breathing space within which to dust themselves off and become familiar with the world again or just cut themselves *OFF* from a world that has pushed and shoved them on their journeys to meet the faithful. Great writers of fiction have *NEEDED* such a release for years, and it has done them well! And in other cases, I wonder what has happened to some artists. Thomas Dolby would be high on my list. I've liked all his music, especially when the songs are loaded with interesting guests, but he had suddenly disappeared. I hope he is living a good life and that he might even find it in his heart to issue some new music now and then. Has he even got a contract now?
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 00:19:52 +0000 From: "Neil Oliver" <squealyneily@hotmail.com> Subject: Making Plans for Weezer Message-ID: <F40WGxegIqunLOyDc410001c228@hotmail.com> Imagine my surprise when I put on Weezer's new album Maladroit and the drum part from "Making Plans for Nigel" thundered out of my speakers. (It's not a sample, just Weezer's drummer playing the same rhythm). I had an mp3 of the opening track, "American Gigolo," but it was a different mix without the drum intro. I guess that part was always there under the opening guitar riff, I just didn't notice!
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 17:22:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Smart <jimsmart1@yahoo.com> Subject: a small bit of trainspotting Message-ID: <20020516002200.80444.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com> Chill Hawks: OK, a small bit of trainspotting: The new Pulse magazine (that's the free one at Tower Records) has a primer on New Wave - what is it, what isn't it, sample songs and bands, etc. A tricky thing to define, for sure. Anyway, our boys garnered a couple of mentions in the article (some might say they've been accused of being New Wave). One nice side bar had 15 essential albums, and one of them was Drums and Wires. Cool. The comment by the album says "not their best - see Skylarking" or something like that. I don't know what radiosinmotion means when he says some posts were "pissy" and "hurt a few feelings". To me, all the posts about the essay in the Coat of Many Cupboards have been fine, just the sort of thing one expects here on Chalkhills. People have different opinions about XTC stuff and express them. I don't think anyone wrote as if their feelings were hurt, including Harrison. If someone's opinion is different than yours, there's no call for name calling, is there? It's not like we're trying to reach some consensus or decide who's right. This is just talk. I think all you Chalkers are great, and I have a lot of respect and aloha for you all (except old Satanas Diablo, who was no fun at all). Jim PS - no Harry Potter 5 till 2003? Dang!
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 04:08:43 +0000
From: "Paul Culnane" <paulculnane@hotmail.com>
Subject: OT: SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
Message-ID: <F1484eilZo5DODXgzs90001cb2f@hotmail.com>
This is to announce to all interested parties that that other power trio
from Newcastle, STARPARK, are about to launch their debut CD-EP,
"Breathingspace".
Some of you will already be aware of the existence of this exciting new
band, which comprises Jesse Delaney (vocals, guitar), Andy T Phillis (bass,
vocals) and Kai Chambers (just drums). Kai, of course, is the son of
erstwhile XTC drummer, Terry Chambers - but let it be stressed that Kai and
his cohorts have forged their own distinct identity on this new EP.
Alongside four excitingly dynamic original compositions, "Breathingspace"
features a rendition of XTC's "Complicated Game" that will floor you.
How do you get your grubby mitts on a copy? Well, simply cruise to the new
website at: www.starparklive.com
There you can check out news, pix, biographies, reviews, sound samples, gig
guide and all sorts of other goodies. If you leave a message on the
guestbook, you can register to be put on the band's mailing list. A choice
quote in your guestbook message may even score you a free copy of the EP!
You can also pre-order a copy of "Breathingspace" and/or buy one of their
nifty t-shirts online.
The website is in its infancy, still under construction. But I urge you to
visit NOW, bookmark it, and come back often for updates.
Let's all get behind Australia's most promising new band, STARPARK!
("Swell time will be had by me and you")-
Thanks for the bandwidth.
Paul Culnane
Minister for Propaganda
for and on behalf of STARPARK
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 13:03:14 EDT From: Hbsherwood@aol.com Subject: A Nouveau's Riche Should Exceed his Grasp Message-ID: <a7.20a366d1.2a154052@aol.com> >From: "JH3" <jh3@alternatech.net> >Subject: Sherwood vs. The English Language, Pt. 2 > >And despite all that, H.S., you still managed to misspell both >"spatial" and "cognoscenti"! Plus four other (only slightly less >serious) errors... Any errors should be blamed on Virgin Records. As should everything else, including the dire situation in the Middle East, Moby, Gap ads, and rectal pruritus. I never missplell anything. Harrison "The Poofreader" Sherwood
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 22:32:11 +0200 From: Jeff Thomas <JTNet@freenet.de> Subject: The craziness of it all Message-ID: <3CE4174B.B3E2C42C@freenet.de> "Kreideberger", I didn't want to put this into my last post, but I guess I just have to vent, I'm in "Coat" fever. It's just... well, I've read people's posts on the following topic, but never felt I should take a stance, because I just wasn't sure it was such a hot idea. In fact, to be truthful, I never thought I would end up saying this because 1) it sounds so much like a silly, doting fan talking, and 2) I felt it would just be a waste of time and effort for the boys to even think it. However...: Having heard "Didn't Hurt a Bit", I have to say that the commonly-held belief about the quality of XTC's throwaways being better than most band's albums has now finally reached me in its full depth. Guys, no kidding, if you are ever full of energy and are willing to go back into the old material again, *record some of your demos*. Having heard the one, I have changed my mind entirely: I know at least 10 I would recommend, and would immediately buy, and would expect to garner you more rave critiques, if you'd just do them true studio justice. No kidding. There! So now I feel like the silly, doting fan I must be, but "Ship Trapped in the Ice", "My Train is Coming", and 8-23 others are just waiting to be made into masterpieces. Unfortunately, I do know very well that Andy and Colin will in fact consider the idea to be a waste of time and effort. But I am now very sad about that fact. Still loving "Coat..." - Jeff
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:19:41 EDT
From: BessInMoonlight@aol.com
Subject: Wow, you al know that it's not a drug...
Message-ID: <c9.22488297.2a157c6d@aol.com>
Hi,
I guess this is where I send the postings, huh? I've been skimming this
newsletter for a while now, and I've decided to add my little contribution to
the madness. I am SO glad to see people talking about XTC and not be talking
about the drug! Although I'm not as seasoned as everyone writing in (I'm 17,
give me some time), XTC is one of my favorite bands. I see there's some
sparks flying about "Coat of Many Cupboards". I just got it about two weeks
ago and I think it's great. "Brainac's Daughter" is wonderful! I love the
little kid in the beginning. Although I do love "Coat"...I would have to say
there are better albums... Namely "The Big Express". Oh! And there was
someone talking about "Wasp Star"! "Wasp Star Apple Venus Vol. 2" was my
first XTC CD. It's also one of my favorites... "Maypole" is genius. However,
"Vol. 1" is not as good. "Greenman" and "River of Orchids" are great though.
I can't really say as much as I'd like to about XTC, considering I don't have
*all* of their albums (they have a massive amount what with the "Dukes" and
XTC and all that, but I'm working on it.) Anyway, I'd just like to say thank
you to all those people out their sharing my obsession with XTC (and not the
drug).
See ya,
B.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 00:15:47 +0000 From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com> Subject: Moby Dickhead Message-ID: <F92eaetzBgI5khw0HZc000153f9@hotmail.com> >From: Mark Fisher <mark-fisher@blueyonder.co.uk> >Subject: Re: We Are All Made Of Stars >I'd never have made this direct comparison myself (Moby doesn't sound >anything like XTC in any era), but I have found it hard to express to >non-XTC fans that it's hard fully to enjoy We are all Made of Stars >when >you know of a certain song called We're All Light. ... or even Joni's "Woodstock", for that matter. It occurred to me after my previous post that "Stars" is even harder to enjoy when you know of a certain song called "Heroes" ... from which he cops even the drone guitar in the chorus. Spectacularly derivative. Mind you, there's a bit of a difference in the vocals. I can see why this was Moby's first self-vocal. I only hope it's his last. But who am I to judge? Ten million albums sold? As if he cares what I think ... Dunks PS: "Six Feet Under" is the best American drama series I've seen in years.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:27:47 +0100 (BST) From: Bert Millichip <juan_the_man2002@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: COMC liner notes Message-ID: <20020517092747.12419.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> Harrison Sherwood wrote: >>>You have in a very short and sharp observation distilled the essence of the thing that tortured me daily during the writing of that essay: The "red light" was most emphatically *on* during that effort; this was one, as you might say, for the record books (sorry), and not some knocked-off, maniacal rant that would disappear as quickly as it came... ...but this essay was going to be read by complete strangers who don't know me from Satanas Diablo. It's an end-of-term exam; not a scratched graffito on a classroom desk. Some gravity was called for.<<< Sorry to burst your bubble, but I doubt many people beyond we few afficionados here will make it beyond the first hundred words. Few people would read such verbose liner notes unless they were as fanatical about the music as we all are. You should have loosened up and not worried about posterity so much - COMC will end up in flea markets, not libraries. B.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:46:55 -0500 From: "Richard" <rjpa1@attbi.com> Subject: King For A Day update (17may02) Message-ID: <033f01c1fdd3$37f340a0$04081fac@verisity.com> King For A Day is still going. I have been asked a legal question by one of the contributors and I am awaiting an answer (OH! GOD! NOOOOOoooooo!!! Lawyers are involved!). The printing is ready but we have one more snag in mastering. I couldn't extract a particular track and it only played on one of my CD players (some kind of odd encoding). I made a straight copy of the CD for Peter but he couldn't read it (and, with all the gear and access to gear that he has, if he can't read it, it is perceived as "damaged"). So, after all this time and effort, I have to back to the guy and ask for another copy in a generally accepted format. There is no truth to the rumor that The Foo Fighters are contributing. Cheers, Richard
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:49:03 -0500 From: "Richard" <rjpa1@attbi.com> Subject: Lazy Susan Revolving Message-ID: <034201c1fdd3$8453dd60$04081fac@verisity.com> re: Harrison's comments about Becki's cover of Andy's unfinished song... "Chordally reminiscent of that monster of psychedelia, Status Quo's "Images of Matchstick Men," Becki's "Susan Revolving" starts..." When Becki explained (verbally - no guitar) to me how she planned to cover the song, she sited "Hurdy Gurdy" by Donovan as the feel she wanted to embrace. After her explanation, I said it sounds to me more like Status Quo's "Pictures of Matchstick Men." Her response was in shampoo commercialese, "Yes, Yes, Yes!!" I explained that to Andy when I sent him the lyrics (I had to transcribe the lyrics and fax them to him so that he could complete them! - he was actually surprised that I had the song and he didn't recall the lyrics), he called back with the completed lyrics and detailed how the key change should go. He told me that he had always thought of it as an early Pink Floyd song but he couldn't remember which. I guessed correctly: The Nile Song. He then went on to say that after hearing what Becki had planned that he looked forward to hearing "Pictures of Gurdy Men." I loaned Becki a copy of "The Nile Song" just for perspective. Becki had planned on doing a different mix of this song for the King For A Day tribute (see related posting for update) but other than some minor mixdown adjustments and being mastered by "Big Bass" at Bernie Grundman's, it is the same track. Cheers, Richard
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:13:34 -0400 From: Ben Gott <bgott@rectoryschool.org> Subject: A steal? Message-ID: <B90B14ED.66D6%bgott@rectoryschool.org> Hillers, I was browsing through the "XTC" section at our local Strawberries in search of the new Caroline releases when I came across the Japanese remaster (cardboard sleeve and all) of "Skylarking." The price? US$14.99. Pretty good, eh? -Ben
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