Chalkhills Digest Volume 7, Issue 14
Date: Thursday, 8 March 2001
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 7, Number 14
Thursday, 8 March 2001
Topics:
Presidents and Lemurs
Urgh! A Music War On Sundance!
BTW
Re: Kiss my aura, Dora
Dying
K.C. Bowman, XTC fan
Odds and ends
ENUFF!
Dave Gregory/Patto
You cannot petition the Lord with prayer!
126 film- XTC related!
yet another rook post
Appy Polly Logies My Sainted Aunt
Don't Mess with Mummer
Re: Neil
Today's Facts
This is a 'low
Favo(u)rites
Re: VENGE
Re the death of Blind Joe, an alternate tuner
re: kiss my aura, Dora
Semi-funny WS story
The Ideal Nonsuch
Life begins at the hop
RE: The Big Express Sucks!
bargains!
i ain't ashamed...
Mystery Video
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:52:03 -0800 From: Ed Kedzierski <ed.kedzierski@chromaticsoftware.com> Subject: Presidents and Lemurs Message-ID: <08B5DDC2BABCD311BFC6005004A884B013B99B@mgcservices.com> Can't you just picture W with a ring-tail bouncing through the jungle? Seriously, though, In 7-7, Nicole said: If Andy were(was? oh ye gads) being general, then he was mocking American Democracy and those who partake in it, right? So then... the insult goes to me... a happy little American who votes and votes happily and who really does think democracy is wonderful. It is. Well, no, actually I meant even more general than that. "American" democracy was the "specific" which I assumed offended you (and others); it never even occurred to me to think that the offense was taken due to a perceived attack upon an individual such as Reagan or Bush Sr. When I said "more general" I meant *Western* democracy at the *most* specific end of the scale, but tending towards a critique of the whole "style" of modern politics, and the basic "business as usual" attitude of the powerful when making decisions that affect (and sometimes kill) the powerless. The fact that the deaths caused are not malicious personal murders but the results of impersonal "policy decisions" just makes them more tragic and wasteful, which I think brings us closer to what I think this song is really about (IMO, obviously). The "Pure White House to Number 10" line that Michael Versaci quoted in 9-9 is another point, especially if that's taken to mean "America to Britain, and their allies between them" (not literally, as obviously the only thing physically between the US and UK is an ocean, but hopefully you know what I mean...). And I think that the references to "Queen Caring" and "King Conscience" are not so much endorsements of monarchy as they are metaphors for that nonexistent past which is always better than today (the reality of whether the past was really better is irrelevant; it's strictly an artistic device. I mean, songs are an expression of feeling, not research projects requiring rigourous factual backing; it seems to me that taking an anti-war song to task on the basis that war is sometimes necessary is akin to criticising, say, "Sex Machine" on the basis that it's not practical for people to continuously have sex 24 hours a day. Or, for a more on-topic example, "Mayor of Simpleton" on the grounds that education is really a pretty good thing, actually.) (and, yes, I wrote the above well before this thread died out, sorry I've been so slow with the posts, but well, I'm not the only lazy/busy/distracted one, and that should be the last I have to say on this.) Also way back in 7-7, Todd correctly identified the kids animal show with the lemur puppet as "Zaboomafoo". (not a vitally important point, but mentioning it justifies the title of this post). Sorry, Adrian (thought that bear costume is damn cleverly constructed, with the neck and all). Before I allow this post to grow out of control in my typical "leave it too long and try to cover several digests worth of debate in one bloated post" style, I'll say one last thing in defence of "Nonsuch" (and I know I've said the occasional negative thing, particularly concerning the production, but I do love it, after all): When I first got the album, it took me a long time to get into both "That Wave" and "Rook", and I used to skip over them all the time. Over time, though, they sunk in, and like all XTC "sinker-inners", once they sink in they stick. Nowadays, "That Wave" practically makes my eyes roll back into my head (in a good way), and the only circumstances under which I ever skip Rook is if I'm already too depressed to handle it. And who said Rook has "weak vocals"? The vocals are exactly right for the song IMO: mournful and desolate without being overwrought or melodramatic, if that's how you classify "weak" vs. "strong"; you'd prefer Eddie Vedder or something? (Creak, creak, creak: that's the sound of Ed getting on one of his favourite hobby horses) Nonsuch is a great album to discover over time - it's like the castle on the cover: if you don't get to all the nooks and crannies on your first tour, they'll still be there and waiting for you whenever you're ready. Always loved "Omnibus" though, and could easily argue for placing it at the beginning if "alternate running order" debates were my thing... And if "Wrapped in Grey" leaves you unaffected, you have a clay heart. Still liking "Wasp Star", and still it appeals to tastes I've had forever, so I still deny that it's just fanboyism... You can also count me among the "Big Express" defenders, Ed K.
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:11:17 EST From: TyphoonPro@aol.com Subject: Urgh! A Music War On Sundance! Message-ID: <d5.33292c9.27d700d5@aol.com> What a treat it was today to see XTC performing "Respectable Street" on The Sundance Film Cable Network. Is there more footage of that particular show out there? And XTC was followed by none other than Klaus Nomi. What a diverse film indeed! Tim Longfellow Typhoon Productions
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:18:31 EST
From: KINGSTUNES@aol.com
Subject: BTW
Message-ID: <14.10972b6f.27d70287@aol.com>
Oh, Smudge Boy;
Washaway was not on the original vinyl of Big Express. :)
TK
Tom Seaver:
"What time is it?"
Yogi Berra:
"You mean now?"
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:19:06 -0500 From: "Brian" <mattone@bhip.infi.net> Subject: Re: Kiss my aura, Dora Message-ID: <002401c0a6b5$5ee17860$ce0bffd1@Brian> >>Subject: need 126 color cartridge film >>Any leads would be great. My Kirlian camera runs on this film type >Your WHAT?? That was my response. >A) Just wondered how *exactly* this relates XTC? And that's what I wondered, too... >B) You can't be serious? Oh, it wouldn't surprise me. There's an awful lot of uncritical thinking going on in the world today. Has anyone heard of infrared light? A nice warm, human body puts out a lot of this. Gee, I wonder if this is what 'Kirlian photography' - if it exists - is capturing. Hello! >>it was discontinued >(... presumably due to lack of demand in this quadrant of the galaxy) My camera doesn't use it, and I've never run across anyone who has one who does... >>and I'm looking for old stock (it must exist somewhere). >Have you tried www.flakeypseudoscience.com? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! -Brian Matthews http://www.stonetrek.com Yes, as much the skeptic as always. XTC content: Think lyrics to 'Dear God'. 'Nuff said.
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:10:23 -0500 From: "Chris" <chris@compudrivel.com> Subject: Dying Message-ID: <000701c0a6bc$883040a0$8e3a0040@compudrivel.com> I read in a certain book: Andy said that he had a moment where he thought he was dying. And that was the impetus for writing "Rook". Powerful Pluto shit here. I know firsthand how he feels. But I have to admit-it makes for creative fodder *chortle* My own personal Rook resides here: http://www.geocities.com/drelle/blu.ra Chris compudrivel powers the internet
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 22:36:46 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo <schiavo@home.com> Subject: K.C. Bowman, XTC fan Message-ID: <3AA5BADF.4D9D7D0D@home.com> > Subject: The (Chalk)Heads Are Alive... > Our new additions include KC Bowman... After you listen to Mr. Bowman's song at Chalkheads, do yourself a favor and buy his album, FRESHER TIN VILLAGES. You should be able to get it from notlame.com. - Steve
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:37:25 -0600 From: "Richard" <rjpa1@home.com> Subject: Odds and ends Message-ID: <01bb01c0a6c0$4fac56c0$02081fac@mckiny1.tx.home.com> > to be more obnoxious than TROUT if that is humanly possible. I thought PIKE were the obnoxious ones! > been clunkers (sorry my Brit cousins ... I'm only second generation here but > I DON'T get Bungalow), but the balance is always on the positive. I'll state it again... I asked Andy which of Colin's songs he wished he had written and without hesitation and plenty of elaboration he replied, "Bungalow." > Firstly, whomever said that Cooking Vinyl is not going to release > "Fuzzy Warbles" is absolutely right. It will be released by Idea > Records and distributed by some other label who have already inked... Right you are, MF! XTC/Idea has dropped some distributors but not their projects. The distributors will be replaced. > Neil Young is famous for taking any and all he finds > of his releases being offered in used record stores > claiming they are his property not those of > the original holder. Neil reputation regarding the CD reclamation is in reference to PROMO CDs issued (and technically owned) by the record company and labelled as such. Neil takes offense at critics and DJs getting free copies of his CDs and then selling them. I understand his position. I think Neil has written some great songs and has done a lot of good things for charity (i.e., The Bridge Concerts) but beyond that I think he's annoying, self-righteous, looks like a caveman and sings like Alfalfa. Cheers, Richard "Yes, THAT Dolby" Pedretti-Allen
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:23:46 -0800 From: "Long's" <wlong2@carolina.rr.com> Subject: ENUFF! Message-ID: <000701c0a6d7$8c26b3e0$31941a42@q6s2h0.carolina.rr.com> Sylvan uttered: "I'd have to put Wasp Star somewhere in the middle. As great as it is, it just isn't _as_ great as the best of their work. I have, however, reevaluated my position that it is inferior to Apple Venus, which I would currently place just below it on my list." AV1 inferior to Wasp Star? THAT'S IT! I'VE HAD ENOUGH! YOU'RE GOING TO TIME OUT RIGHT NOW MISTER! when can you come out? WHEN I SAY SO, THAT'S WHEN! Ahhh...parenthood. I just don't have the "pie trap" in me no more kidz. I love you Sylvan. I just don't love your behavior. wes "now clean up the playroom" LONG
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:43:34 -0800 From: "Long's" <wlong2@carolina.rr.com> Subject: Dave Gregory/Patto Message-ID: <000f01c0a6da$50366f80$31941a42@q6s2h0.carolina.rr.com> Thanks to all of you who hooked me with info on Ollie and Patto. If you don't know who you are then just look in the mirror and ask a lot of questions. Be prepared though, some of you will come across as true blue assholes at first. Just give yourselves a chance. Once you know you I'm sure you will love you as I do. I talked with Dave and he suggests the following starting point for Patto: "Yes, do yerself a favour and seek out "Sense Of The Absurd", Patto's first 2 Vertigo albums plus out-takes on a double CD. I last saw it about a year ago, heavily discounted, so it may be out of print by now. Songs haven't really travelled well from 1971, but there's bags of barmy guitar all over it. And you'll immediately recognise that Princeton vibe, I'm sure." This all started when I mentioned picking up a Fender Princeton Reverb amp. How much you ask? FIFTY FREAKIN' BUCKS! Of course I'm kinda bummed about it though. I thought it was new and it turns out that it's actually vintage. WHY ME LORD, WHY ME? Two years older than me, yet somehow sexier. (as if that's possible) BAGS OF BARMY GUITAR! wesLONG
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:42:40 +0100 From: Bergmaier Klaus <klaus.bergmaier@maxonline.at> Subject: You cannot petition the Lord with prayer! Message-ID: <41E0B760C85AD3119BE200E0291B6EE5089650@NTSRV> Hello to you all! I didn't post in quite a while, and I must admit that I haven't yet read all the digests properly. But I promise to do so as soon as possible. I do still like WS, maybe because I didn't listen to it that much (I got 4000 other CDs) and I am definitely looking forward to anything XTC, Idea Records, Cooking Vinyl and Virgin will release. Please don't make us wait too long. David Lord is an excellent producer. He should have done more work for/with XTC. It isn't very much XTC, but I'd like to put forth the news, that I am now part of "The Doors Experience", a quite good Austrian project to commemorate Jim Morrison's death 30 years ago. Just have a look into www.thedoors.at which is still under construction. As soon as I have my own leg of the homepage, there will be links to Chalkhills and Beatown. If anyone would like tu set up a concert with us, feel free to contact me. My favourite band is still XTC Klaus
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:43:18 -0500 From: "Roger Fuller" <fullerfamily@sprintmail.com> Subject: 126 film- XTC related! Message-ID: <002b01c0a6e2$a9859ea0$4b6dd63f@hp-customer> >>From: Randy Hiatt >>Subject: need 126 color cartridge film >>Any leads would be great. My Kirlian camera runs on this film type >Your WHAT?? Dunks, be nice. Unlax. Lay down, and take your pill. The guy was merely trying to find like-minded people who might be able to help him. >A) Just wondered how *exactly* this relates XTC? Here's how: The Kirlian photographic system was used to make a photo of somebody's hand for the back cover of King Crimson's live album "USA" (GRRRRREAT album BTW- one of the few LPs from the 1970's I would still put on the turntable, if I could get it to work..) Robert Fripp, the founder of KC, later founded the League of Gentlemen. He hired a keyboard player, Barry Andrews to play in it. (Am I getting warm yet?.....) "For ten points, and the fabulous Sony entertainment centre, can you tell me what famous pop combo Barry Andrews had been a member of before joining the League of Gentlemen?" :^) Also, I noted that some of the childhood pix on Dave Gregory's webpage are in that square format that 126 used. If somebody knows Dave, he/she should ask him whether his family used the boxy "Instamatic" cameras with these drop-in cassettes in the 60s and 70s, as they were ubiquitous, and a photo buff such as he might remember that- the drop-in cassette obviated the need for spooling in film into the camera, and was considered a perfect, no think family snaps format. 126 was the film I used in my first camera that I rec'd at the age of 6, BTW. >B) You can't be serious? >>it was discontinued I'd say he's quite serious- from 1963, until around 1997 (?),126 film was only available in special, factory loaded cassettes. It is/was almost impossible for the individual to make a cassette for it using film stock, as the 126 cartridge was/is broken upon unloading it for development, so, no recycling of film spools and cartridges/backing paper, unlike 120 or 35mm film. And I don't ever remember empty new cassettes for 126 being sold in photo supply shops. So, if one wants to use a camera or "imaging system" (nouns as verbs.... aaargh...), in 126 format, one is now, shall we say, in a bit of a pickle. And I happen to have some unused 126 at home in the film phridge, in both color print AND Kodachrome. Randy Hiatt, please contact me off-list, if you are interested. Roger Fuller I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. My life is my own. - --THE PRISONER
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:27:53 -0800 (PST) From: nross <PhoenixYellowRose@rocketmail.com> Subject: yet another rook post Message-ID: <20010307132753.17311.qmail@web2906.mail.yahoo.com> The Rook debate most likely is in its final stage... please bare with one more post on it (or page down). I bought nonsuch because I had read the lyrics on the Chalkhills page and thought it was a beautiful song. Obviously, I side with the view that the lyrics are more than typically sound. However, when I listened to the song, it quickly became my least favorite on the album. This annoys me further, because the words are so great. I suppose I can't appreciate the meloncholy drowning drugging sound of it. It goes on and on with little to it that interests my ears... and so I end up "forgetting" the beauty of the lyrics. I feel the desire to "fix" the song, but I'm not a musician and haven't a clue what to do to it to make it sound the way I think it should. If I were a musician, I would do a cover of it... work day and night until I could get the music to match with the beautiful words . Unfortunatly, there isn't a sound that pops in my head when I read the words. Anyways... -Nicole ===== Nicole's internet music station: http://radio.sonicnet.com/mymusiclisten.asp?name=phoenixyellowrose
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:02:45 -0600 From: Jason Phelan <jphelan@ICGCopyright.com> Subject: Appy Polly Logies My Sainted Aunt Message-ID: <CBE4754489E8D211816000500416EAE00E715E@w162.z064002150.bna-tn.dsl.cnc.net> California tumbles into the sea....that'll be the day I apologize publically to TROUT. An Edict issued by, THE SKYLAR KING
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:58:17 -0500 From: "Todd Bernhardt" <todd.bernhardt@enterworks.com> Subject: Don't Mess with Mummer Message-ID: <3AA63E79.268D9831@enterworks.com> Organization: Enterworks, Inc. Hi: Ye Olde Boye of Smudge wrote: > Actually, it's a fascinating insight to see what lights > other people's candles. I absolutely DETEST War Dance - the > worst song either of the lads has ever come up with. This is one of the most interesting thing about this list. About the only thing we have in common is our regard for XTC, but we can't even agree on songs and/or albums. About Big Express: > Errrr, that's the patchy one for me - great start, but some serious > "tailing off" in my humble wotsitcalled. Train Running Low keeps me > listening to the end, but "Washaway" - what's all that abaaaart? B-side, mate. Never belonged on the album in the first place. That said, I like the song -- Dave plays a great piano, and Pete Phipps comports himself quite well, too. And, about Mummer: > Probably fair to say it divides opinion like no other XTC > output. It seems to be the one people either love (Me, Deb > Brown)or hate(everybody else). OK, I generalise, but Deb > and I seem to do a lot of Mummer-defending on here. Add me to that list! And I *like* "Procession Towards Learning Land," dammit! It's one more example of the incredible range of Andy Partridge. > I think it's vastly under-rated. For me, it was the moment > Andy (in particular) realised that he didn't have to be > bound by the two guitars, bass'n'drums thang. The much-quoted > "pastoral" sound had been hinted at in English Settlement, but > for me, Mummer took it to a logical home. > > It's Skylarking's older brother - the two sound perfect back-to > -back on a Summer's day. Very nice description, although I always like to listen to Mummer and BE back-to-back -- for me, they're the perfect juxtaposition of rural/urban. If you're traveling to England and want a soundtrack for that green and pleasant/dark and dusty land, you could do a lot worse. Debutante Jeff Crawford said: > However, I do agree that the likes of Mummer and The Big Express (both of > which I'm quite fond of) are "transition" albums. I'd disagree on that. IMO, they belong in their own period, one in which XTC explores and helps define "progressive pop." Being a semi-reformed prog-head, I think these albums and the direction in which they took the band were very exciting. In a way, I was disappointed when the Dukes grabbed XTC by the short hairs and didn't let go -- from Skylarking on, they've worn their psychedelic influences prominently on their sleeves (not that there's too much wrong with that) and shied away (kind of) from their progressive/avant garde influences. (Did I mention that I love "Procession"?) (And parenthetical statements?) I think AV1 show the two paths slowly coming together, however, and IMO that's all the more reason to be truly excited about Andy and Colin's future efforts. Oh, and welcome, Jeff. >From Ms. Brown: >I am troubled by the fact that I didn't put any gold into the lad's >pockets. Will I go straight to hell when I die?.. or will I first have >to endure a five hour lay-over at DFW airport? Deb, don't worry about going to hell. Your small investment in black-market XTC will surely pay off in future legit investments by your bro ... right? If not, you might want to remind him how uncomfortable family gatherings could get if he doesn't do the Right Thing... And what's wrong with a DFW layover? Best people-watching experience I ever had! Yee-haw-ha-ha... -Todd
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:30:28 -0500 (EST) From: Harry Strole <hjstrole@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Neil Message-ID: <382814097.983975429757.JavaMail.root@web431-wrb> <Neil Young is also famous for being an a**hole, not that it's any relation to the CD issue.> Zoiks! Well, he does include on his website a movie of him hassling a record store clerk (who doesn't even recognize him from the record cover)for selling a bootleg. He also does, technically have the right to take any promo copies he finds in used record stores. As for being an a**hole that is your opinion. I think the guy is a great songwriter. This probably what was mentioned about Wasp Star a couple of digests back. When the barcode is punched it is done so the person receiving the promo copy cannot return it to a store because the cash register will not read it. However, used CD stores don't always comply with this. I knew of certain people within the record companies and radio stations that used to sell their freebies to a used record store years ago and I am sure the practice continues. How much do record companies lose to used record stores who do this? Who knows, my guess is Virgin, for one company, more than made up for it by not paying XTC. Harry
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:44:51 -0800 (PST) From: Vernon Hickle <vernonhickle@yahoo.com> Subject: Today's Facts Message-ID: <20010307144451.85495.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Nurses, Queens & Drones: I have been lurking for almost 2 minutes. Mummer & Big Express aren't "transitional." It's the bloody Xtc's Nonsuch. Shutoop. The majors should hire Andy to name their new acts. --V--
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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:09:43 -0000
From: "Adrian Ransome" <adrian.ransome@instinct.freeuk.com>
Subject: This is a 'low
Message-ID: <000d01c0a73a$2c1e5120$8f9c7ed4@atidy>
Two people (Dan and Sylvan) have recently mentioned on this list how they
'get the humour' in Bungalow.
Can someone please enlighten me as to whereabouts this humour can be
found?
For me, this is one of the saddest songs Xtc have ever done. You work hard
all your life, save your pennies and buy a seaside bungalow. That's it,
the pinnacle of your life, your ultimate goal - a bungalow. Nothing else,
just a bungalow. The bungalow in which you potter around the garden, do
the Daily Mail crossword, drink afternoon tea whilst watching Countdown
and where, eventually, yourself and your partner will run up the curtain
and join the choir invisible (probably whilst listening to Jimmy
Young). Where's the humour there? Someone please explain, as I feel like
I've had a sense of humour bypass.
Message to Debs and Smudgeboy - please add my name to the register of the
"Friends of Mummer Society". The only skipworthy songs on that album are
Toys and Desert Island on the bastard CD version. I enjoy Frost Circus and
Procession Towards Learning Land probably because they sat together on the
b-side of my Great Fire 12" single (where they made sense). Admittedly
they don't fit into the carrot crunching, ploughman's lunch, head stuck in
the threshing machine, pastoral vibe of the album, but it don't mean they
suck, boy.
On a tangent, I went to see Hannibal at the pictures the other day. Pah!
Talk about being nothing like the book. Where were all his elephants fer
gawds sake??
Adrian ("Mmmm... ploughman's lunch!")
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:34:24 -0500 From: "Benjamin A. Gott" <bgott@bowdoin.edu> Subject: Favo(u)rites Message-ID: <B6CBF770.35C5%bgott@bowdoin.edu> Hey, 'Hillers: You know, I always yammer about how "English Settlement" is my favourite XTC album, but I've never really considered what's #2 on my list. Today, while trying to find a CD to listen to (we've got our second snow day in a row!), I realized that "Drums and Wires" falls squarely into the #2 slot. Isn't that...unusual? Anyone have any ideas why, because I sure don't! In any case, I'm cranking "Drums and Wires" right now, and am so, so, so happy. I assume that Virgin will be re-releasing the re-mastered XTC albums in order, from "White Music" on, right? Do we know how much of a lag there will be in between releases? Also, on a more personal note: there are 60-ish days until I become a college graduate. Doesn't that make some of you Chalkhillians, who have known me since I was a junior in high school, feel old? Yeah, I thought so. Anyway, I'm wondering if any of you live in Hawaii, as I've just interviewed for a job on Maui...If you do, could you write me off-list? I'm a native New Englander who's a little nervous about possibly making that 6,000 trek, and I want to make sure that we could have a once-yearly Chalkhills gathering, even if there are only two of us... What do we think of the new Dave Matthews album? Poppy, no? I retract my earlier statements that dumping Steve Lillywhite for Glen Ballard was a bad thing (although I still think that Mr. Lillywhite needs to produce "Apple Venus Volume 3," or whatever...) I especially like the Peter Buck-ish guitar on "Dreams of Our Fathers." Onward and upward! -Ben
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:12:30 -0500 From: "Duncan Watt" <dwatt@fastestmanintheworld.com> Subject: Re: VENGE Message-ID: <200103072012.PAA03155@gilgamesh.nh.ultra.net> "United States District Court, Northern District Of California" <righteousjusticeformusic@screwyouyougreedybastardmusicthieves.com> wrote: >In accordance with the Opinion of the United States Court of Appeals for the >Ninth Circuit filed on February 12, 2001, it is this 5th day of March, 2001, >HEREBY ORDERED that, during the pendency of this action and until final >judgment is entered, defendant Napster, Inc. and its agents, servants, >employees, representatives, subsidiaries, assigns and those acting in concert >with them or at their direction (collectively, "Napster") are enjoined as >follows... ... and that would be my cue to GO FUCKING NUTS WITH HAPPINESS AS MY FAITH IN THE GOOD OLD FUCKIN' YOU-ESS-AY IS RE-FUCKIN'-STORED! YWEAHHHHWEHHHH! U-S-A! U-S-A! Duncan "U-S-A" Watt ps yeah, yeah, too bad the EVIL FUCKING THIEVES THAT ARE/WERE NAPSTER had to be brought down by a group of contemptible bastard RIAA greedheads... but c'mon, they at least *pretend* to pay the artists, and they got one Dom of a scare rammed up into them. Now comes the fun part... -- email me: dwatt@fastestmanintheworld.com surf me: http://www.fastestmanintheworld.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:17:42 -0800 (PST)
From: pancho artecona <partecona@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re the death of Blind Joe, an alternate tuner
Message-ID: <20010307201742.67621.qmail@web10414.mail.yahoo.com>
Exalted Master Vee,
regarding your recent post
You! Sir! Have INFURIATED the...
WATER WARRIORS OF FINTASIA!
Your only chance at salvation is
to immediately issue a complete and un-
revocable public admission of your complete
and total ignorance of all things Alien!
Please! Sir!
Grouper the bottom feeder-ready to fight, just send
me a bubble-gram and I shall appear in my finest
Warrior Finnery. Grouper out!
John Fahey R.I.P. Truly an american original. I
remember reading an article about him a few years back
and he was living in a flop-house, had his guitar at a
pawn shop and eked out a living by buying cheap
classical lp's and reselling them. He was bloated and
hardly recognizable from the halcyon days of Takoma
Records. If you haven't heard, he died in the
operating table about a week ago while undergoing
sextuple bypass surgery.
And I got the answer right but too late to win the
little book, thanks again annandalians.
Pancho XPRXTCFAN (aka The Grouper)
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:33:09 -0800 From: Randy Hiatt <rhiatt@gte.net> Subject: re: kiss my aura, Dora Message-ID: <3AA69B04.E61BA244@gte.net> >From: "Duncan Kimball" >Subject: Kiss my aura, Dora >>From: Randy Hiatt >>Subject: need 126 color cartridge film >>Any leads would be great. My Kirlian camera runs on this film type >Your WHAT?? >A) Just wondered how *exactly* this relates XTC? >B) You can't be serious? >>it was discontinued >(... presumably due to lack of demand in this quadrant of the galaxy) >>and I'm looking for old stock (it must exist >somewhere). >Have you tried www.flakeypseudoscience.com? >>Help! >Oh man, that is SUCH a tempting feed line... >>am bidding at eBay now for a few (2) rolls... wish me luck! >I wish you a speedy recovery. Just keep taking the tablets, baby. >Telepathically yours, >Dunks >Canyons-of-your-mind, NSW >:P Oh come on Dunks, I can't believe YOU don't see the connection(s)! ... and Thanks for the link, I knew there was someone out there with their shit together. R
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:09:34 -0500 (EST) From: Jessica Gluckman <frippy@shellyeah.org> Subject: Semi-funny WS story Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0103071557040.9149-100000@zippy.shellyeah.org> I haven't seen Wasp Star in any bargain bins here, but, one thing I did see at the Wherehouse here in town was that the album was given its own bin card, there was one marked "XTC" and the other was marked "XTC with Wasp Star." This was because one of the stickers on the shrink wrap read: XTC + WASP STAR. So rather than realizing the plus was just a graphic device used to separate the artist and album name, somebody thought it was some kind of joint project. frippy ... www.mentalsewage.com
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:28:36 -0800 (PST) From: ben woll <benwoll@yahoo.com> Subject: The Ideal Nonsuch Message-ID: <20010307232836.2335.qmail@web617.mail.yahoo.com> I think this is an interesting thread as I have often thought Nonsuch had a lot of great tunes, but some that do not quite measure up as well. Here is my ideal Nonsuch: Dear Madam Barnum Humble Daisy My Bird Performs Holly Up On Poppy Then She Appeared The Disappointed Bungalow Rook That Wave Wrapped in Gray I also think Apple Venus and Wasp Star are amazing records, but that it could have been their best, most consistent record yet if compressed into one CD. I'm The Man Who Murdered Love Stupidly Happy Standing In For Joe I'd Like That Frivolous Tonight In Another Life Your Dictionary I Can't Own Her Easter Theatre We're All Light The Wheel and The Maypole Greenman Harvest Festival I know I'll have ticked off the River of Orchids and Church of Women fan clubs, but those two songs are just don't do it for me. Ditto for Books are Burning on Nonsuch. I think Andy's taste in his music (loving Season Cycle, This World Over, Rook) is pretty good, but Books are Burning is a bit too derivative and preachy for me. Yeah, I know I included Standing in For Barrytown on the Wasp Venus record, but it is a great piece of fluff. Of course, I would have rerecorded The World Is Full of Angry Young Men and put it on the Wasp Venus (or Apple Star record too, so what do I know?) On another note, some other records to check out: Eels-Daisies of the Galaxy, Wild Colonials - This Can't Be Life, and Deus - In a Bar, Under The Sea. Enjoy.
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:19:48 +1030 From: "Van Abbe, Dominic" <dominic.vanabbe@au.faulding.com> Subject: Life begins at the hop Message-ID: <45C458C0C9C7D2119F790000F87A42A40269C771@s-mulgrave6.faulding.com.au> Folx, I was perusing "Song Stories" for the umpteenth time last night, and found a section which had hitherto escaped my attention. Apparently XtC recorded a version of "Life Begins At The Hop", with Cameron Allen in the producer's chair, for a US single release. However, it was shelved being deemed largely similar to the Lillywhite version. Can anyone shed any light as to whether this version has ever surfaced on any of the myriad of XtC bootlegs and/or is it planned for inclusion on either Warbles or Cupboards??? Cheers, Dom
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:52:09 -0800 From: Ed Kedzierski <ed.kedzierski@chromaticsoftware.com> Subject: RE: The Big Express Sucks! Message-ID: <08B5DDC2BABCD311BFC6005004A884B013B99F@mgcservices.com> Well, no, actually I'm defending it, I just couldn't resist using the "recommended" subject from the posting guidelines... Anyway, in 7.13, Smudgeboy, in response to Sylvan's defence of BE, said: "Train Running Low keeps me listening to the end, but "Washaway" - what's all that abaaaart?" Well, besides the fact that "Washaway" is a bonus track, and you disqualified a bonus track as a basis for criticism of "Mummer" earlier in your post... What's it about? It's about the piano going "doo-doo-da-doo-doo, da-doo-doo, da-doo-doo", the bass going "doom-da-doom, da-doom-da-doom", the guitar going "weeeeee-we-we-we-we-we", cabbage smells, drains, steam, noise, Mr. Softee and a thousand hypothetical Yorkshire puddings, business as usual, and a pile of other jump-cut shots from Colin's memories and imagination all driven along relentlessly in a big glorious mess. I love it. In fact, I'll risk the ridicule and declare unashamedly that of all the albums which had the bonus tracks stuck into the middle of the CD versions, "Washaway" is my favourite bonus track of them all, and that Big Express is the one case where I don't find the insertion of the bonus tracks to be obtrusive; all three in this case fit in quite well with the album and its theme, with "Washaway" being my number 1 nominee for "bonus track that should have been a part of the album proper to begin with (in which case I wouldn't have been able to accuse you of "pot calling the kettle black" behavior; also would have upped Colin's ratio on this one). I'll be buying the reissue of BE for better sound, not because I'm sick of skipping the middle. And I'm always a sucker for songs based around a repetitive piano riff; see the Stones' "We Love You", the Fabs "Hey Bulldog" etc. In fact, once I've replaced my tape deck (which is taking me way too long) I'm planning to do a mix tape made up entirely of such songs to be called "240 Fat Fingers", assuming 12 tracks per side, number to be adjusted depending on how many songs I can fit in... Side Note: I guess I'm not going to be able to interest Dunks in buying something from my new line of pyramid hats and orgone underwear... Washing away every dirty stain I get, Ed K.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:01:30 -0500 From: Virginia Rosenberg <vmr423@earthlink.net> Subject: bargains! Message-ID: <B6CC441A.143%vmr423@earthlink.net> greetings to all- i've not read "song stories", so don't consider this a recommendation, but i did just purchase a copy for $3.99 + s&h at bookcloseouts.com, and they had 9 more as of 3.7.01 if anyone else out there is interested... their books are often cross-referenced to half.com if you'd rather try there- the shipping might be less? happy shopping, virginia
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:46:38 -0500 From: Virginia Rosenberg <vmr423@earthlink.net> Subject: i ain't ashamed... Message-ID: <B6CC4EAD.144%vmr423@earthlink.net> i'm perplexed to hear "mummer" described as a guilty pleasure: why would anyone be embarrassed to admit to liking such a luminously beautiful album? i rather liked david.smith's description of "mummer" as "skylarking"'s older brother- i too have always thought of them as close kin, though not necessarily as brothers. i'm not especially keen on the in-betweenie filler and "human alchemy" doesn't do much for me lyrically (too damned preachy), but i'm always happy to have a listen to "mummer"-it's definitely a fave. i admit i was a bit disconcerted, however, to find "great fire" and "love on a fb's wages" running through my head after recently reading about the british cattle bonfires (because of the hoof-and-mouth disease outbreaks). scary. i got zilch of a response to my query re: "the rhythm" a few postings ago-am i being ignored or were y'all too busy fuming over the skylar king's little lark to get around to cluing me in? yours in painful ignorance, virginia
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:05:56 -0000 From: Jason Witcher <JasonW@teletext.co.uk> Subject: Mystery Video Message-ID: <D93A503A5230D411B96A00508B67107F01AEA64A@EXCHSRV1> This was posted a while ago, but I was just going through a load of accumulated digests >Ages (and I mean AGES) ago I saw an XTC video on the TV. I >think it was on The Tube (an ancient UK music programme) and >it was set in Portmeirion. I wasn't interested in the band >at the time, and I only paid attention because it was >Portmeirion and I was a fan of the Prisoner. Does anyone >know what the video was for? Is it quite a well known one? It was 'The Meeting Place'. I taped it, but the tape is in a box buried in the deepest recesses of my parents' attic, so I haven't seen it for years.
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:19:37 -0600 From: "Michael Versaci" <mwversaci@att.net> Subject: Help! Message-ID: <000001c0a7f3$f46cb3b0$4f97640a@hickmanar.com> Folxtc, I am requesting help from the Beatleheads on the list. In January of 1981, Playboy Magazine printed an interview with John Lennon. The transcript of this interview can easily be found on the web. Here it is for those so inclined: http://lightningcapitolmusic.com/interview_pb.html A few months later, perhaps in March or April, Playboy printed additional text from the same interview that was originally edited out for space. I cannot find any reference to this addendum anywhere on the 'net. Please e-mail me privately. Michael Versaci - - From the original interview: PLAYBOY: You disagree with Neil Young's lyric in "Rust Never Sleeps" -- "It's better to burn out than to fade away...." LENNON: I hate it. It's better to fade away like an old soldier than to burn out. I don't appreciate worship of dead Sid Vicious or of dead James Dean or of dead John Wayne. It's the same thing. Making Sid Vicious a hero, Jim Morrison -- it's garbage to me. I worship the people who survive. Gloria Swanson, Greta Garbo. They're saying John Wayne conquered cancer -- he whipped it like a man. You know, I'm sorry that he died and all that -- I'm sorry for his family -- but he didn't whip cancer. It whipped him. I don't want Sean worshiping John Wayne or Sid Vicious. What do they teach you? Nothing. Death. Sid Vicious died for what? So that we might rock? I mean, it's garbage, you know. If Neil Young admires that sentiment so much, why doesn't he do it? Because he sure as hell faded away and came back many times, like all of us. No, thank you. I'll take the living and the healthy.
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