Chalkhills Digest Volume 6, Issue 57
Date: Friday, 31 March 2000
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 57
Friday, 31 March 2000
Topics:
80's will once again be fashionable
After Kinks info back to our regularly scheudled Xtc progam
RE: My last post
Re: XTC & the Residents
So I'm an Idiot
What's in my CD-player
Tokyo
W.I.M.P. VII (Bumble Nova)
Now you've done it
What's on my food tray today?
I'm baaaack!
XTC and NBC and MP3
OK, I'm on the "what's playing" bandwagon
elliot smith ... xtc
Being Todd Rundgren/My CD Player
XTC Collaboration w/ dance company
XTC-Wasp Star
are you forgetting something?
my next obsession...
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:43:40 -0800 From: "Digitalmaster" <digitalmaster@earthlink.net> Subject: 80's will once again be fashionable Message-ID: <001701bf9a77$deb5b7e0$0200a8c0@digitalpc> >>>If XTC can just hold out until the end of this decade, the 80's will once again be fashionable completing the 30-year cycle <<< Was it really that long ago? Yes, we have lived through the disco revival in the 90's (didn't those people learn anything the first time around?) the grunge fad, which to me is almost like 70's rock. Now its time to relive the 80's (just not in the political hell we went through back then). As long as "I Ran" stays off the radio, I will be swell. I can handle "Kajagoogoo" somewhat (well, as much as I could handle "Dead Or Alive"), but don't ask me to sit here and listen to "Bow Wow Wow" please, unless they ditch the little lady and change their name to the Ants with Adam doing the singing. Of course, I will wholeheartedly accept a nice comeback from "Talking Heads" or "Big Country," just please don't start playing "Malcolm McClarren" attempting to do disco or "Sid Viscous" attempting to do music. Bring back Nerf (well, I'm sure its still around!) $2.50 movie tickets and concerts that were $15 or less. I want Hubba Bubba. Why did they take this gum off the market anyway? If anyone has a clue, please tell me because I am dying without my Hubba Bubba gum! What happened to Vans? As soon as they went overseas for production, they shoes sucked. Keep those dumb converse-that-folded-up-like-boots-and-down like-high-tops part of the past! That's all for my 80's comments. Bring on the 00's!
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:18:57 EST From: WTDK@aol.com Subject: After Kinks info back to our regularly scheudled Xtc progam Message-ID: <75.2a7d84a.2615c781@aol.com> In a message dated 3/30/00 10:29:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, <owner-chalkhills@chalkhills.org> writes: > Autumn Almanac" is on the remastered version of "Something Else" (but only > the British release...if there even *is* an American release). Something Else is still in print from Reprise without any bonus tracks (at least it's in the stores). Sound quality is good, but not as good as the Castle stuff. I'm not sure if Castle will be reissuing the remastered SE. I do know that Kontroversy, Kinda and the band's first album are all available without bonus tracks in the US from Castle. Pretty sad that the band is still being screwed by Virgin. All I can say is at least it hasn't created writer's block (like John Fogerty's situation with Fantasy Records)! Personally if I were Andy and Colin I'd tell Virgin to go f**k themselves. Then again it is their music even if it's being held ransom! We should all let Virgin know what we think of them (I don't know if I would go so far as to not buy the collection. I have mixed feelings. On the one hand it would hit Virgin where it hurts, but on the other hand it also would prevent Andy & Colin from receiving additional -- small -- royalties). So let's all start another Free XTC campaign. Eels fans--Amazon has a b side that you can download for free in the Liquid Audio format. Wayne
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:46:21 -0600 From: "David R. Bauman" <drbauman@students.wisc.edu> Subject: RE: My last post Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000331004621.007e4d80@students.wisc.edu> Hello Again, everyone -- I made a small mistake -- I actually have Michael Versaci to thank for enabling me to hear "Shaming of the True", rather than "Thud" which is far easier to find. (2 posts in 1 year - Wow!) That's enough posts for this year :) David R. Bauman
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:21:54 EST From: WTDK@aol.com Subject: Re: XTC & the Residents Message-ID: <47.28b87ca.2615c832@aol.com> In a message dated 3/30/00 10:29:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, The Colonel <captainextraneous@yahoo.com> writes: >Re: XTC & the Residents And here all this time I thought they were the Beatles! (no, sorry, that was Klatu--errr I mean 10cc or was it Big Star?)So many posts, so little time.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:37:32 -0600 From: "Robert Kulick" <kulicro@auburn.edu> Subject: So I'm an Idiot Message-ID: <s8e463dd.014@groupwise1.duc.auburn.edu> Well Chaulksters, Clearly the recreational ingestion during the 70s and 80s has come back to haunt me, cuz I coulda sworn I saw Dave Gregory's name on an Aimee Mann CD single I own of "I should have known", but alas, it was not to be. Was there some other lithe blonde who's albums he performed on. I did know about the romantic link. Anyway sorry for generating three days of useless chatter about a figment of my imagination. As for the "What's on my CD player" list, if anyone cares, TMBG-John Henry (the horn section of "Sleeping in the Flowers" just rocks!) Fountains of Wayne-Utopia Parkway (the pop darlings of NPR) Wilco-Summer Teeth (the album is so much more than the one single that gets tons of radio play) Eurythmics-Peace (Why it took them so long to get back together is beyond me) Beck-Mutations & Mellow Gold (how can this be the same guy?) Midget-Jukebox (its pop-py enough for even the most jaded XTC fan) Moxy Fruvous-Thornhill (these guys are the real deal, and deserving of lots of listening) Hopefully I won't imagine any more strange Dave Gregory sightings (he did play on a Peter Gabriel album in 1980, right?). Rob
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:00:43 +0200 From: a.de.koning@bp.vnu.com Subject: What's in my CD-player Message-ID: <C12568B3.003D8679.00@bpa.vnu.com> Hi. I'll bore you with some of my newest stuff that's in rotation, too: Elliott Smith - XO and Either/Or Neil Finn- Try Whistling This Crowded House - Afterglow Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense (new version) And I just got a call from the wife that my Aimee Mann order has finally arrived (Magnolia and Bachelor No2 ltd edition). Artistsdirect took their bloody time (over 6 weeks!). If I were cynical I'd probably think they have waited until they were sure that they wouldn't have to put 'Oscar winner' stickers on there (glad I'm not cynical though). Anyway, I think I can manage with all this until WS arrives. Andre
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:02:44 +0900 From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp> Subject: Tokyo Message-ID: <00a301bf9aea$d9a72d60$7c5791d2@johnboud> Off to Tokyo on Monday . Will be partying with Jerome Deupree ( Morphine / Orchestra Morphine drummer ) and his wife Lisa as well as spending a couple of days with a friend down at the beach in Izu . I will of course be hitting the CD/Record shops , so if there is anything you need XTC-wise or otherwise and can't find let me know by Sunday morning 10:00 AM EST , and I will take a look once in the " big sushi " . Sushiman
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:49:04 CST
From: "vee tube" <veetube@hotmail.com>
Subject: W.I.M.P. VII (Bumble Nova)
Message-ID: <20000331034904.20071.qmail@hotmail.com>
1. XTC
Demos ,MP3s I downed and burnt from...
http://www.idrive.com/autoradio
(Thanx Ian!)
2. Eels
B-sides/demos/live
More MP3s I downed from...
http://www.idrive.com/eels1
(Thanx Ian!,[no relation])
3. John Coltrane
A Love Supreme
4. Soul Coughing
El Oso
5. Francis Dunnery
Tall Blonde Helicopter
6. Wes Cunningham
12 Ways To Win People To Your Way Of Thinking
Cat# WB 9 47010-2
7. Dombrecht/Kuijken/Kohnen
Oboe Sonatas Between 1700-1750
Cat# ACCENT ACC 57804
8. Webb Wilder and the Beatnecks
It Came From Nashville
Cat# Watermelon CD 1018
9. Ethyl Meatplow
Happy Days,Sweetheart.
10. UuHhMmmmm...
I forgot, BONG HIT!
}---(TFHWLTCHVT)*:)
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------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:41:30 -0800 From: Craig Vreeken <CVreekn@ns.net> Subject: Now you've done it Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000330194130.0079ac70@mail-1.ns.net> Thanks to all of your lists of what's on your CD changer, I've gone and spent my paycheck on Amazon.com. Like I'm not already their best customer. Anyway, turnabout's fair play. On my changer is: 1. Steely Dan - Two Against Nature 2. Beck - Mutations 3. Mel Torme - The Best of the Concord Years 4. The Posies - The Best Of...Dream All Day 5. Everything But The Girl - Tempermental 6. Todd Rundgren - Live in Chicago 1991 (Japanese Import) 7. Gershwin - Rhapsody In Blue 8. The Clash - Sandanista (remastered) 9. The Residents - Play XTC's Greatest Craig Vreeken http://www.ns.net/~CVreekn/index.html
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:27:59 +0100 From: "Smith, David" <David.Smith@tfeurope.com> Subject: What's on my food tray today? Message-ID: <802EE5D7277AD21188D10008C728D44803255D32@TFSECMSG02> Nice one Harrison - this is irresistible! But first, in response to your post - that's a mighty large dose of carrots my friend! And, btw, what's "Top Round" - must be some American cut of meat? Right, let's see, what did the grand tour of the Smudge digestive system during the course of yesterday? Summed up: Coffee - with milk, no sugar x3 Tea - ditto x2 Can Diet Coke x2 Bottles water x2 (hey, I like my liquids!) 1 Chocolate Croisssant (mmmmmmm!) 1 Chicken and coleslaw torpedo (that's a "sub" for you Yanks) Apples x 2 Bananas x2 and, to cap it all, My Mum's finest Sausage and Bean hotpot - yumyumyumyumyumyum!! Oh, what the hell, yumyumyumyumyumyumyumyumyumyumyumyum! (You can never get enough yums). That's me satiated - now onto other random responses: Phil Collins - what has that guy turned into. I will say without shame (though in some fear of reprisal) that I absolutely loved (and still do) Face Value. Trouble is, one decent album followed up by cliched repeats ad nauseum does not a career make - well, evidently it does. But the lawsuit against the horn players? What a wanker! Next up - Kirsty Macoll - genius songwriter, shame about the voice. I've always found it so ultra-plain that it can sometimes distract from the songs. Oh, and Virgin - how can we get some sort of revenge on these megolamaniacs? Any useful offers accepted and acted upon. My solo act so far has been to stop using them as my ISP - piddling, but satisfying. Oh, and my only non-response part - so therefore resonably original. I've just listened to the extended version of "Never Enough" by the Cure. Great stuff. Bugger me, can Robert Smith play when he puts his mind to it or what? Nice weekend all! Smudgeboy E-Mail: david.smith@tfeurope.com
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:03:01 -0500 From: "Kimberly Martin" <kallisti23@email.msn.com> Subject: I'm baaaack! Message-ID: <002901bf9ad6$db763820$afe7183f@pavilion> Hello! Well, I wasn't around a whole lot to start with, but I've been gone for almost a year...For some odd reasons, the posts are better on this list when we're all waiting around for something, and aren't as good once we get it. I am almost more excited about AV2 than I was about AV1, because some of my favorite songs from the 95 demos that didn't make it onto AV1 (Church of Women, Some Lovely, You and the Clouds) are going to be on AV2! Yay! May 23...Hmmm, what's _with_ those 23s! (fnord!) I'm glad this time, tho, that I haven't gotten the newest, up-to-date bootlegs. I'm actually gonna sit it out this time. I got so comfortable with those '95 demos that I was actually a bit disappointed with AV1, the finished product. The demos lacked production, but the final CD I thought had a little too much production here and there...I thought the demo of Greenman had more "soul," but admittedly crappy production. Well, I just wanted to be passe and blindly follow some old threads b/c I'm lame... IN MY CD PLAYER Well, my stereo's a circa 1992 mini-Panasonic (we're talking manual control 5-band equalizer, kids, no pre-set rock/pop/concert stuff) that only has one CD player on it. So, one CD (or webpage) at a time I'm listening to... 1) The Cleaners From Venus--"Golden Cleaners." Ooh ooh Martin Newell! Yum yum yum! 2) Martin Newell--"The Greatest Living Englishman" 3) Olivia Tremor Control--"Black Foliage / Animation Music." 4) Orange Hat--"Pufferfish" 5) Jayhawks--Tomorrow the Green Grass / Hollywood Town Hall 6) Beatles--Yellow Submarine (actually, been _watching_ this one like a junkie, but hey) 7) the streaming psychedelic channel on http://www.NetRadio.com 8) the Nuggets box set 9) XTC--English Settlement 10) Blur--Parklife / okay, all of them 11) watching the music videos on http://www.Launch.com--oh man, they have the Cavedogs and even the video for the Dead Milkmen's "Methodist Coloring Book!!!" 12) Rolling Stones "Their Satanic Majesties Request" 13) Moody Blues "Days of Future Passed" 14) Zombies "Odessey and Oracle" 15) all the Rhino DIY comps I have 16) others I won't admit to because my musical taste has a horrid, dark and cheesy underbelly and you guys might make fun of me (here's a hint, I'm a tender young 21 and actually get the Marilyn Manson thing...which is a big turn-off to Mod boys, who think I'm some sort of soiled dove when they see Mr. Manson and Booty Club Classics juxtaposed alongside my Kinks collection....sigh...my large collection of Aleister Crowley books usually sends 'em running scared too...) What's a girl to do??? --Kimberly Kallisti
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:40:00 -0500
From: Ben Gott/Loquacious Music <gott@tmbg.org>
Subject: XTC and NBC and MP3
Message-ID: <B5098840.1A65%gott@tmbg.org>
Chalkhillers,
To make a long story short: through a stroke of luck (and a few other
things), I was able to visit the set of "Law & Order" today. My visit,
which included hanging out with Sam Waterston and the recently-engaged Angie
Harmon, also included a *weird* XTC reference:
There was a petition hanging in the hallway, outside the "Locations" office,
urging passersby to "SAVE 'FREAKS & GEEKS'!" Apparently, a ton of people
who work at "Law & Order" are big enough fans of the show that they
desperately want to rescue it from cancellation. Anyway, while I was
waiting for Mr. Waterston, one of the production assistants came up to me
and said, "As long as you're hanging around, why don't you sign my
petition?"
"Sure," I said. "I've never really seen the show, but any show that plays
XTC is a show that I love!"
The p.a. responded with a laugh. "Cool," she said. "XTC rocks!"
I signed the petition, and then turned back to the p.a. "By the way," I
said, pointing to a new red streak in your hair, "I like your hair!"
"Thanks," she responded. "*I* like XTC!"
Doesn't that rock? I think so. "Apple Venus Volume 2" rocks too, methinks.
I can't wait for it!
Meanwhile, it's a Johnny Marr party in my CD player:
The Smiths: The Smiths
Billy Bragg: Don't Try This At Home
Kirsty MacColl: Electric Landlady
(BTW...Could someone tell me about "Kite"? I'd love to hear it, but
it's unavailable here in the U.S.!)
Electronic: Raise the Pressure
Electronic: Electronic
And on MP3:
Public Enemy: 911 is a Joke
DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince: Nightmare on my Street
Charles & Eddie: Would I Lie to You?
Dionne Farris: I Know
Monie Love: It's a Shame
-Ben
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AIM: Plan4Nigel . Tel: (207) 721-5366 . http://listen.to/loquacious
And I just can't contain / This feeling that remains...
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------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:50:06 -0500 From: "Michael Otero" <motero@accucon.com> Subject: OK, I'm on the "what's playing" bandwagon Message-ID: <200003302350060250.00B4225B@mail.accucon.com> Wha'sup, y'all? I thought I could stay off this thread, but, as was pointed out, "everyone's doing it." (And yes, I'd jump off the cliff if the others were doing it, too. I never claimed to be smart!) I've got one of those 24-disc players, though, so you may want to scroll on to someone who's got a point to make... (at least it's not one of those 100 or 200 disc beasts!) I loaded it the other day when company was coming over, and so was trying to achieve a bit of something for everyone. But everyone's long gone, and I'm pleased with the assortment I chose that day, so they've remained in the player. By using the "random" function, I can give musical schizophrenia free reign. Here goes: Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers: Echo Southern Culture On The Skids: Dirt Track Date Ronnie Laws: Pressure Sensitive Led Zeppelin: Physical Graffiti (just disc 1 - Trampled Underfoot, Kashmir, etc.) The Beatles: A Hard Day's Night The La's Billie Holiday: God Bless The Child Los Lobos: Colossal Head some guys from Swindon: AV1 Fiona Apple: When The Pawn Santana: Milagro Bob Dylan: Infidels Dada: Puzzle The B-52's: Cosmic Thing Mark Knopfler: Golden Heart The Pretenders: Viva El Amor! Django Reinhardt: Swingin' With Django James Brown: The CD Of JB The Beatles: Magical Mystery Tour World Party: Goodbye Jumbo those Swindon guys again: Nonsuch Bruce Hornsby: Harbor Lights Squeeze: Play k.d. lang: Ingenue I meant to include Utopia Parkway from Fountains Of Wayne when I was loading it up, but probably got distracted by smoke from the grill (I was cooking out for family on the occasion of my son's 8th birthday). I used to live close to Utopia Parkway (it's a major road in Queens, New York City), and that got me paying attention to a story on National Public Radio about the album several months ago... then the snippets they played from the album caused me to order it as soon as I finished the drive home from work. My visiting relatives, also New York refugees, would've liked them, too. A new k.d. lang album on the way? Outstanding! I'll have to stroll over to Pollstar.com to check on the possibility of a tour. I'm a something of a concert addict, and I haven't seen her perform yet. OK, I checked: one date, 4/29 at RFK Stadium in Washington DC. Seems like an awfully BIG venue to hear a singer like her... hmmm. Is it May 23rd yet? No? (dammit...) Well, enough babble. On with the digest... Take care, and peace. Mike Otero Melbourne, Florida
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:19:18 -0500 From: arthur james virgin <audio@one.net> Subject: elliot smith ... xtc Message-ID: <B50A2C38.244B%audio@one.net> Greetings, while waiting for my AV2/WS from Japan, i've decided to dedicate all of my time by digging into Elliot Smith's new CD "Figure 8" (due mid-April). i've got to tell you, this is going to find itself on my top 3 albums EVER... up there with the Beatles "Revolver" and XTC's "Skylarking." i've always been a big fan of Mr. Smith, and knew it was a race between Elliot Smith, Andy Partridge, and Neil Finn as to who was to write the perfect pop album... i think Elliot has done it. simply unreal. absolutely unreal. regards, aj
------------------------------ Date: 31 Mar 00 10:09:43 EST From: Rick Mealey <rick.mealey@usa.net> Subject: Being Todd Rundgren/My CD Player Message-ID: <20000331150944.7727.qmail@nwcst021.netaddress.usa.net> ==== ... so I'm thinking 'okay, I'm Todd', and I'm thinking people actually pay more for FUCKING SILENCE than MY ART, that my music actually DEVALUES CASSETTES OF SILENCE in the public's eyes. And that made me feel lonely, even though I'm not actually Todd. ==== Me, I prefer to think that people are actually paying more for the *possibility* of what they can put on that blank cassette than they are for a cassette that already has stuff on it (even though it's Todd). I guess freedom of choice is the more desirable and therefore the costlier of the two commodities at hand here, though we all knew that already, didn't we? And now for something completely different. You want to know what prerecorded albums are in current rotation in the general vicinity of *my* CD player? No? Cue the wah-wah trombones, 'cause here it comes anyway. Pat Metheny -- Map of the World soundtrack Ralph Vaughan Williams -- The Lark Ascending Steely Dan -- Two Against Nature Ben Folds Five -- Reinhold Messner Joe Jackson -- Symphony #1 Emerson Lake & Palmer -- Then And Now Miles Davis -- Kind of Blue a 20 minute suite of music I wrote for a church service last year <XTC_content>and I'm getting set to plug Oranges and Lemons into the mix because it's getting to be that time of year.</XTC_content> Glad you asked -- Rick
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:28:51 -0800 From: "Ray Michno" <rmichno@my-Deja.com> Subject: XTC Collaboration w/ dance company Message-ID: <JHAJFHCEAJBCLCAA@my-deja.com> Organization: My Deja Email (http://www.my-deja.com:80) <lurking mode off> I'm not sure if anybody else mentioned this, but I came across this link on another mailing list. Apparently it's a press release about a collaboration between XTC & a dance company from New York. Either that, or it's an amusing April Fool's joke. You decide! Here's the link: http://www.netacompany.org/release.htm -Ray- <lurking mode on> --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:05:21 -0500 From: Paul Burgess <pburgess@tvtrecords.com> Subject: XTC-Wasp Star Message-ID: <v04220807b50a803d2c21@[38.149.92.114]> Greetings to Chalkhills. I'd like to confirm that TVT Records will be releasing the brilliant Wasp Star (Apple Venus Vol. 2) on the 23rd of May in the US. I will confirm our release dates for Canada and Austrlia next week. We will post the dates and create a Wasp Star page at Tvtrecords.com very soon. You will be able to stream 30 second audio clips of album tracks from this page. I promise to keep you advised of other promotions that we might create. Please spread the word about the album release date and feel free to contact me with any questions. Thank you- Paul Burgess Sr. VP Marketing-TVT Records
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:33:26 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: are you forgetting something? Message-ID: <20000331173326.506.qmail@web2102.mail.yahoo.com> RE: Kirsty MacColl does have a slight XTC connection by the way. Steve Lillywhite, who used to be married to her, supposedly pulled out of producing "Nonsuch" because of their marital problems. --------------------- Not to mention the wonderful Lillywhite production of both Drums & Wires and Black Sea...
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:24:26 -0500 (EST) From: may5272@gte.net Subject: my next obsession... Message-ID: <000331132426AD.06291@webd3.mail.com> Oh, methinks this thread is going to take a turn towards the silly.......let's see Harrison....since it's Friday morning where I am and I haven't had a chance yet to truly indulge in my next obsession after music, let's look back at the week and kind of do a "Food Highlights" thing: Sunday night: My lovely boyfriend made me a shepherd's pie preceeded by, accompanied by, and followed by wine. Monday Afternoon: A grilled chicken sandwich and half a glass of chardonnay. Tuesday night: We went to our favorite hippie joint and I had steamed vegetables, almond crusted halibut, and a glass(es) of wine. Wednesday night: A savory course of.....meatless corndogs finished off with a beer. Thursday afternoon: A bag of candy accompanied by a cherry soda preceeded by a bag of Munchems and some French chocolates. Friday: (?) At least I've started off the day with a bagel - that's a good sign. In summary.........a whino struggling to eat healthier - and losing grip. I've also been recently crowned the Queen of Low Fat Processed Junk Food. (See Santa Barbara News Press - edition 234.) RE: Aimee Mann Oscar Thread Although she seemed a bit overwhelmed at the Oscars, her presence I feel, was a welcome one. I have to agree with the Chalkie who said that it must be hard to enjoy yourself in the presence of so many self-congratulatory celebrities. I found her performance to be refreshing - I almost felt like rock/pop as I know it made a bit of a comeback that night in her being there...and nominated. My eyes were still trying to adjust to the glare of slick, polished divas and country music icons and boy groups sending disco-ball glitter out into the crowd when she came on. It was nice to see someone a bit more "real", if that is what it is. Take care all. Rule of thumb: aspirins mashed into orange/pineapple soda do not make a hungover person well. Love, - May
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