Chalkhills Digest Volume 6, Issue 52
Date: Wednesday, 29 March 2000
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 52
Wednesday, 29 March 2000
Today's Topics:
Don't be fooled by cheap imitations!
R.H. and Fuzzy Warbles
wua - isosp
Fat Bassman est encore la
Eno or Partridge?
Frosting on the Beater/Dear 23
Kinky masterpieces
what's on the stereo
First message/CD Player
Aimee Mann at the Oscars
residential ecstasy
What's Andy got on his CD player?
W.I.M.P.
Clarifications To XTC/Residents Tie-In
Orchid Show snafu: Iago:"Why am I not surprised?"
Pssst....Hey buddy,
The Best Go First (In The Back Of My Cortina)
My turn: Nah-nah-nah-nah HAIKU4U
Currents
Vale Cassette Tape
Always Keen For What's Playing...
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 00:10:43 -0800 From: Richard Pedretti-Allen <richard@tactics.com> Subject: Don't be fooled by cheap imitations! Message-ID: <l03130301b50615734712@[165.227.110.102]> I thought I'd just throw this out there in case any of the Wasp Star promo discs show up on an auction site... There is virtually NO WAY to distinguish a "REAL" TVT promo from a copy! The promo is on a silver CD-R covered with a white paper label with black text and the TVT and Idea Records logo. There is no cardboard sleeve, cover or tray art, or ANYTHING distinct about the CD (well, except for maybe... um... the music). The individual logos are available from various locations on the web. The font is very basic. The labels and silver CD-Rs are available everywhere. If you see "promo" copies being offered at big prices, be very careful!! If you want to come over and visit for a listen, write me. Cheers, Richard
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:20:36 +0200 From: Imanol Ugarte <otadui@euskalnet.net> Subject: R.H. and Fuzzy Warbles Message-ID: <38E0DBD4.38C73B0C@euskalnet.net> Hi all, What's been in my tape machine? " a STAR for bram" by R.H.(taped from CD) over and over XTC content: Does anyone know if there will be rare stuff like Pearl , Holding the Baby, Gangway,..., early War Dance , Raising a Family... in the forthcoming 4CD set ?? I mean, barring Jules Verne's..., The Bull..., and James & the Giant Peach songs, what sort of unexpected goodies are waiting for us ? Any knews on FW ? Imanol -------------------------------------------- August was grey, oh it feels like 1974 - R.H.
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:06:06 +0800 From: "Simon Deane/Gina Chong" <ginsim@netvigator.com> Subject: wua - isosp Message-ID: <001601bf98be$c399ada0$244797d0@t17fw> Someone who likes to be known as veetube wrote: >>Looks like I've hit the BIG TIME! I'M NOT WORTHY! Wank? Moi?<< This is possibly the most amusing thing that veetube has ever written - one can always trust Dom to bring the best out of the Chalkhills punters. On the subject of the name of the new album, I'm still not entirely convinced about "Wasp Star". Surely they can think of a better name than that, etc. Currently in my CD player : (well I can't be bothered to think up any obscure band names so I'll pass on this one for the minute). I hear that Ian Dury died a couple of days ago - I for one used to thoroughly enjoy his music. Sad news. I've noticed that we've not heard from Davidoh for a while. Far be it from me to be so presumptive as to think it was my recent message about his Black Sea post which caused this recalcitrance - but if it was, I'm sorry Dave old mate. However, if you've just been on holiday - well, hope it was a good 'un. Love Simon Deane
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:33:37 +0100 From: fsolans@carat.fr Subject: Fat Bassman est encore la Message-ID: <OF6C7E6C4F.1CBB13C1-ON802568B0.0065F49B@carat.fr> Salut aux habitants de la colline Yes, french Fat Bassman is back again, and one more time, the English Language is tortured here. I'm not new over the hill, use the wonderful research engine of Digest if you want to know more about me, and for all other stuff too, I think most of the newcomers ignore totally how complete and useful is this site (can we thank John enough for that ? I doubt). Not a quote about my animated movies remarks in my last post (end of 99), it was a little disapointement. No interest for Myazaki, Pixar or Nick Park around here ? someone has seen the first images from first Nick Park's long movie (initialy Chicken Run, finaly Ginger & ?) ? when it's released in US or UK ? Once again, I have no word to say how I am excpecting Wasp Star. I already describe my POV in this list about demos and advanced copies. I'd got 9 from 11 songs of AV1 when it was released, and the release date was very far from the chocks felt at every XTC's first listening. In few weeks now (agagagurk !!), I will go in a big record shop, I will spend my money with total happiness, I will be back at home where some good smoke will be prepared, then I will listen first the three songs already known (My Brown Guitar, You and the Cloud, Church of Women). I suppose I will be already in heaven with all the embellishment done. And after, WRAOUCH ! ! nine songs totaly unknown from my favorite band of all the times, I can't believe it, I have to LIVE it. And I'm sure I will remenber this moment all the rest of my life. Sadly, it seems that each XTC's record has to come with another split anoucement. Last year, when AV1 was released, we have lost at the same time Boo Radley's, Lush and Dodgy. This year, it's Soul Coughing, and it's an abominable news. I cry because I will not see them on stage again (one of the best live performance experimented in my life). I know, each of members will continue, the M. Doughty solo album will be good and the incredible Yuval Gabay will continue to charm us with his so personal drums playing. But the band alchemy is broken and I'm inconsolable. Who is the next ? Teenage Fanclub ? Radiohead ? neither of them, I hope. What in the CD player ? : - Eels : Daisies of the galaxy - The The : Naked Self - Rita Mitsouko : Cool frenesie - Madness : Wonderful - Steely Dan : Two against nature - Papas fritas : Buildings & grounds - Joao Gilberto : Joao voz e violao - Einstein's sister : Learning curves - Gekko : from South Asia No coments, but I'm particulary happy with the unexpected quality of the Madness' come back. Enjoy all your Wasp Star ceremony Fredo Fat Bassman PS : ...and always the same unanswered quotes : where is Kim Fahy (aka The Mabuses) ? where is the 3rd Geggy Tah CD ?
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:32:26 EST From: "Brian Young" <raggedglory57@hotmail.com> Subject: Eno or Partridge? Message-ID: <20000328183226.35948.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Chalkies, Both our Andy and Brian Eno have collaborated with Harold Budd, and I wasa wondering, for those of you who have heard both, which was the more successful union in your opinion? Please reply off list and if anyone responds, I'll post the results. Thanks, Brian
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 07:58:45 -0800 From: "Doug Swan" <swansuite@mindspring.com> Subject: Frosting on the Beater/Dear 23 Message-ID: <02c001bf98ce$96568240$b12579a5@com> Uh, Marty, that's Dear 23. Most Posies' fans would argue that, in fact, Dear 23 was a "brit pop" album as opposed to Frosting, which was straight ahead power pop. Critics will nearly always list this as a "must buy", because, quite frankly, there was nothing like it before and nothing since. I've seen discussion groups brought to their knees trying to figure out how they got the guitars to sound like that (and they aren't telling). Just a small clarification from a lifelong Posies' fan (their lifetime, not mine--I'm not THAT old!). Take care. Doug
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:03:40 EST From: Wuellig@aol.com Subject: Kinky masterpieces Message-ID: <33.301f545.26125c0c@aol.com> Hi, chalkhills-haunters ! Just after Muswell Hillbillies, The Kinks made another great record, quite different from the rest (with brass and all), Everybody's in show-biz. Sides 3&4 are live tracks and include a incredible version of Alcohol. And in the late 70s, two more big things : Sleepwalker and Misfits. They're not perfect but each one contains some wonders. Marldens
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:32:20 +0100 From: "chris browning" <chris@boodle.fsnet.co.uk> Subject: what's on the stereo Message-ID: <00b201bf98e8$17915ba0$248a883e@pbncomputer> never one to refuse a challenge... what discs have been doing the business round these parts of late... Terry Callier - Occasional Rain The Clean - Compilation Come Fly With Us - A Glitterhouse Compilation The Mutton Birds - Rain, Steam and Speed Laura Nyro - Eli and the Thirteenth Confession John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman (more than highly recommended, being as it is by far one of the greatest jazz albums you will ever hear. gorgeous) Harry Nilsson - Nilsson sings Newman Swinging Mademoiselles - a compilation of french chanteuses from the sixties Gene Clark - No Other Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One don't know if it says much about current state of music, but mostly i've been listening to classics of yore. definitely cannot wait for Wasp Star! giddy with the excitement of it all. or not. i'll get my coat chris
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:01:35 EST From: StucoHomes@aol.com Subject: First message/CD Player Message-ID: <99.2e277a4.26125b8f@aol.com> My first posting will be another one of these damn "What's in my CD Player" lists: XTC - Black Sea: New purchase. I was blown away by disc four of Transistor Blast, and so I decided to seek out the studio release that had my favorite songs from TB on it. I was hoping this wouldnt turn into another "Absent Lovers" fiasco - the King Crimson album of the same name is double-live, and after hearing it, I went out and bought Three of a Perfect Pair, only to be disappointed that the songs were very bland in the studio. NO such problem here. "Living through Another Cuba" gains new life on the studio album. Residents - 13th Anniversary Show Live in Tokyo Gong - Zero to Infinity (part 5 of the radio gnome invisible trilogy) Beatles - Revolver They Might Be Giants - Then: The Earlier Years James Brown - Star Time (boxed set) Frank Zappa - You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Volume 2 Elvis Costello and the Attractions - Best of... and others making the rounds regularly - - - Jizzody Bizzarnes. "I used to care, but things have changed." - Bob Dylan "May the baby Jesus shut your mouth and open your mind." - Don Vliet
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:47:13 -0600 From: "Robert Kulick" <kulicro@auburn.edu> Subject: Aimee Mann at the Oscars Message-ID: <s8e0a9d3.076@groupwise1.duc.auburn.edu> Hi Chaulkies... Slightly off topic, but given the frequency of Dave Grgeory on her disks, I wondered what anyone thought of Aimee Mann's performance on the Academy Awards last night.... Personally I have always dug her music since the Til Tuesday days and in fact almost bought the Melrose Place soundtrack (never found it however) for her and Letters to Cleo. I know Dave Gregory performed on "I should have known", and was sort of wondering if it could have been him playing guitar alongside Aimee, who was just a little too close to the microphone and a little too overwhelmed, I thought, by Phil, Sarah/Randy, Gloria and good ole Robin Williams (Blame Canada indeed!). Anyways, I welcome comments as those of us who don't have generous Aunties sit on our hands and await the Wasp Star becoming visible on the horizon.... Rob
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:34:35 +0200 From: Garmarna <r.huggers@chello.nl> Subject: residential ecstasy Message-ID: <38E1094B.68D456E7@chello.nl> Hey, Great to see so many fans of XTC love the Residents as much as i do. Can't be a coincidence anymore, just like it can't be a coincidence that 4 out of 5 Moz fans are into The Cure :) Though i don't believe XTC -are- the Residents (no way!) i do think it was an interesting thread and indeed, some of the resemblances are startling. > My Residents collection stops at the Commercial Album. So then you don't have Mark Of The Mole? That's a must-have. Heavy rotation: 1) Bloodflowers - The Cure 2) NakedSelf - The The 3) Vengeance - Garmarna 4) Orbital 2 - Orbital 5) Social Dancing - Bis 6) Meet The Residents - The Residents 7) Breakdown - Melissa Etheridge 8) House Tornado - Throwing Muses What else? English Settlement is by far XTC's best album! The hills are alive with celibate cries, ~~Ruud~
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:53:48 -0800 From: "Hiatt, Randy" <Randy.Hiatt@fsbti.com> Subject: What's Andy got on his CD player? Message-ID: <F34536084B78D311AF53009027B0D7EA144A69@FSBEX01> Anyone ever ask him ....lately? I'd bet he will/does enjoy the new Steely Dan, it has wisps of Apple Venus running through it. NewYork pop at it's poppiest. I have been using my CD player when my girlfriend comes over (in other words my selections are for a specific reason/effect) so I won't bore you with that narrow list. I have renewed interest in Kevin Gilbert... anyone know how I can get a copy of his version of the (entire) Lamb Lies Down On Broadway? At one time part of this was on a video release of ProgFest94, but because of legal hassles with Genesis it was removed from the video yet part of this is on the CD release (I think). I want it all! Randy (working on the Orgone Ejaculator) Hiatt http://members.tripod.com/RandyHiatt/
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:25:28 EST From: "Brian Young" <raggedglory57@hotmail.com> Subject: W.I.M.P. Message-ID: <20000328192529.73404.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi there, friends of the Chalk, Here's what's in my player right now: Brian Eno- Kite Stories Allan Holdsworth-Live in L.A. 4/27/85 Billy Nicholls-Would you believe Nick Drake-Home Recordings Jane Siberry- When I was a boy The High Llamas- Hawaii Michael Brook- Cobalt Blue Adrian Belew- Coming Attractions Mark Eitzel- Songs of Love Live Have a wonderful day, Brian
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:54:46 -0800 (PST) From: The Colonel <captainextraneous@yahoo.com> Subject: Clarifications To XTC/Residents Tie-In Message-ID: <20000328195446.28005.qmail@web106.yahoomail.com> I just wanted to respond to the past couple of digest entries regarding my XTC/Residents theory-in-progress. Here are a couple quick responses to the criticisms I have so far received from resident nonbelievers (bad pun intended)... 1. Since XTC are from Swindon & the Residents from Louisiana, they couldn't possibly have the same members. Well, I guess I'd have to respond to that with a question: How much of the Residents' early history is actually documented by reliable sources? The very nature of the band indicates that commonly accepted beliefs about their history are not necessarily factual. A telling example of this can be found in Matt Groening's "True Story of the Residents" article, published by the band's fanclub so many years ago (at least I think that's where it first appeared...). It began as such: "Let me start off by saying that there is NO true story of the Residents." In short, just because some of the details about the Residents' background do not coincide with XTC's, that may not be grounds for dismissal of the XTC/Residents concept. 2. XTC's "Your Dictionary" does not have religious overtones. Okay, first of all, I know that the song is about Andy's divorce, so there's no need to try and outsmart me with that one. The lyrics can still be interpreted as an attack on organized religion/the Bible...(Please read the rest of this before sending hate mail!)... HOWEVER, the exact point in the song to which I was referring was the lyric,"I'm not so sure that Joey wed a virgin Mary/There are no words for me inside your dictionary." So the intended subject of the song may not be religion/The Bible, but the imagery is there nontheless (which was my initial point). 3. Regarding the Beatle-esque nature of both bands. This is something that I should have pointed out explicitly. I did make mention of the McCartney-styled vocal delivery on the catalogs of both bands, but I guess the reason I didn't mention the Beatle thing is because so MANY artists are heavily influenced by them. But good point nonetheless. Wow, this is great! Thanks for the comments, and please keep em coming! The Colonel
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:14:31 EST
From: "JANE SPENCER-DAVIS" <janesunfish@hotmail.com>
Subject: Orchid Show snafu: Iago:"Why am I not surprised?"
Message-ID: <20000328201431.3229.qmail@hotmail.com>
Dear Chalkies:
Just a quick heads-up that when I attempted to purchase tickets for the
Orchid Show in NYC, June 15-18, at The Kitchen, the theater had no idea what
I was talking about, and I was the third caller. I'm awaiting a call back
from someone whom I guess is going to straighten the hapless box office
person out. The lady I spoke with seemed surprised that someone was calling
so early about it, but I have a sneaking suspicion that once a few
bloodthirsty XTC fans find out, the Neta Company won't know what hit 'em.
-Jane
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:18:12 -0600 From: chris vreeland <vreecave@realtime.com> Subject: Pssst....Hey buddy, Message-ID: <38E12193.6175@realtime.com> Organization: Vreeland Graphics What's in the bag? I have a traditional one CD player, with nothing in it right now. (My printers are listening to "the alternative to music" on the radio) Dale's listening to Canned Heat in the Art room, and Mark has Beefheart on in the Screen dept. Here's what came to work with me in my black bag this morning: Trapeze: Medusa Joe Jackson: Look Sharp Was (Not Was): Are You Okay? Gentle Giant: Octopus Miles Davis Quintet: Relaxin' With Miles The Rolling Stones: Beggar's Banquet Tim Finn The B 52's Bela Fleck and the Flecktones: Flight of the Cosmic Hippo Crowded House: Woodface David Bowie: Aladdin Sane The Beatles: Revolver The Guy Forsyth Band: Needlegun The Band: Music From Big Pink Led Zeppelin: II I like all these albums a bunch, but am currently getting the most kicks from the Gentle Giant. It's been years since I've heard this, as I just picked it up Saturday. Like visiting an old friend who moved away. In the car cassette deck going 'round and 'round for the last week is a cassette tape of some XTC demos that I bummed from Joe. (hands-down the best friend a guy could have) I'm currently in LOVE with "My Trains a-coming" and "I Don't Want to be Here." If they don't release these as b-sides from the current sessions, I may seek permission to go record them myself. Joe, you can play a chord on the guitar. Cheers, Chris
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 23:20:50 +0200 From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl> Subject: The Best Go First (In The Back Of My Cortina) Message-ID: <20000328211714.9D74EA6CF4@mail.knoware.nl> Dear Chalkers, This evening the TV announced that Ian Dury had passed away earlier today. He had been seriously ill for some time but it's a sad day for music lovers everywhere nonetheless if only for that one, truly immortal motto: "sex and drugs and rock 'n' roll, is all my brain and body needs". How very good indeed... Mark Strijbos work: webmaster@coss.nl home: mmello@knoware.nl
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:24:35 -0600 From: Jill Oleson <Jill_Oleson@kurion.com> Subject: My turn: Nah-nah-nah-nah HAIKU4U Message-ID: <81CC73FC2FACD311A2D200508B8B88AA0D6EB1@KURION_EXCH> count thus far: just 1 brown wrapper, fresh, hand-cancelled possessed: secret smile...
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 23:38:20 +0200 From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl> Subject: Currents Message-ID: <20000328213442.99E21A6CF4@mail.knoware.nl> Dear Chalkers, what's rotating around the lighthouse? at the moment an awful lot of Fossil Fuel (gotta keep that fire burning) and a bit of my own musical doodling... that's it really yours in xtc, Mark S. @ the Little Lighthouse www.come.to/xtc
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:53:58 EST From: "Andrew Gowans" <ratwhacker@hotmail.com> Subject: Vale Cassette Tape Message-ID: <20000328225359.18777.qmail@hotmail.com> Greetings, At this point in time I am listening to XTC on my PC, as my CD player is pretty well cactus. What XTC ?, I hear you ask.....well, everything I have actually. I haven't got everything, e.g. Transistor Blast, but what I have is on my MP3 server, random play, perpetual loop. Cool ! At home I'm listening to The Wiggles, Hi Five and Chris Isaak, courtesy of my kids and my lovely lady. Also, who else would I share this with, my XTC compilation tape that has travelled with me constantly over the last 7 years was destroyed on the weekend..sniff! Poor sucker got caught in my keys in my backpack and got chewed up. Damn ! Ciao, Andrew Gowans
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:29:57 -0500 From: Roger Carvey <carveys@earthlink.net> Subject: Always Keen For What's Playing... Message-ID: <38DFFD05.E16CCE8E@earthlink.net> Long, long, long time lurker seeks quick outlet... Ahhhh, "What's Playing", I like that game... Morphine - The Night (we miss you Mark) Jeff Buckley - Sketches from My Sweetheart The Drunk (we miss you Jeff) David Bowie - Hours... (yes, still listening, all us Dreamers) David Bowie - The DERAM Anthology 1966-1968 Art of Noise - The Seduction of Claude Debussy (beats the pants off of Orbit's Pieces) Underworld - Beaucoup Fish (the transcendence of electronic dance music) Leftfield - Rhythm and Stealth NIN - The Fragile (why, yes it DOES help to listen to this after a marriage break-up!) and Basement Pot Parties Be Damned, finally replaced my vinyl: Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon (yeah, like they wanted a bunch of teens smokin' up...) and, the Surprise In The Used Bins: Big Country - Steeltown (forgot how good, better than their first, IMHO) and purchased and listened to this the day before New Year's Eve (timely): Firesign Theatre - Give Me Immortality Or Give Me Death Please feel free to try any of these while awaiting The Star That Is Called Wasp Now, Children, I have work to do, so please excuse me, Very Sincerely, Roger Carvey carveys@earthlink.net
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