Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 274 Thursday, 21 September 2000 Topics: The Negro Problem LIVE in L.A. difficult age It's Raining Rain You *know* she's not messin' when she brings home the Wesson... public embarrassment Remade, Remodeled and Remoulded... An Evening Of Genius rain rain go away Funny XTC Fall Down, And Can't Get Back Up! (MP3s) A naked lunch with Venus (apples included) The Dome... a differing view. Re: xtc? I should say. Re: AV1 better than Wasp Star? Annoying our parents Countdown... RE: There's no place like Dome Administrivia: To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is compiled with Digest 3.7b (John Relph <relph@tmbg.org>). Many fingers have been burnt with the touch of gold.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:09:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Brown <mb2@deltanet.com> Subject: The Negro Problem LIVE in L.A. Message-ID: <200009200509.WAA29256@mail2.deltanet.com> Hey gummi bears! A little concert alert for you L.A. area Chalkers: The Negro Problem is opening for Counting Crows at the Greek Theatre 9/25.. Debora Brown
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:59:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Long <thlong@interchange.ubc.ca> Subject: difficult age Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0009200944450.29406-100000@inch.interchange.ubc.ca> Pink things, Ok, I've loathed the last couple of threads (if I hear about another concert I'm going to be spewing chunks at the monitor). With this in mind, I humbly humbly offer up a new thread for your perusal... if you dislike it I will be hurt and quite possibly cry (*sniff*): One of my fave xtc tunes, right up there with Wrapped in Grey, is Difficult Age. I find the lyrics spot on. But Andy, you've left us hanging!! Has anyone seen 7/14/28/35 etc up? What if Andy were to update Difficult Age and add a new verse... he's covered 14/18/29/38, how about 45? I would think divorce & a prostate would certainly figure prominently. Thomas, just because
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:32:43 -0600 From: KirK.Gill@equifax.com Subject: It's Raining Rain Message-ID: <85256960.005B14E2.00@noteswetc15.fin.equifax.com> Ok. I give in. I must tell everyone to go out and buy the CD "Good" by Morphine. On that disc, they will discover the song "You Look Like Rain," which is one of the great mood-setters of all time. Put this disc on, turn the lights down low, grab your significant other and see what develops. This is one of the great nookie records. Bottom line. XTC content? I must say that the there's no one XTC disc that's great for use as sexual encounter music. There's always that one tune that kills the mood. AV1 probably comes closest, but then "Your Dictionary" comes on.................... k "for a million years he has been your lover"
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:09:03 -0400 From: "Todd Bernhardt" <todd.bernhardt@enterworks.com> Subject: You *know* she's not messin' when she brings home the Wesson... Message-ID: <39C8C4FF.1BBFAB4@enterworks.com> Organization: Enterworks, Inc. Hi: Tyler Hewitt said: >maybe an interesting variation would be songs that are >not particularly sad in themselves, but are sad by >association for us. >any takers? What a great idea, Tyler! Here goes: Thirty minutes after my microcephalic Cousin Skeezix ran over my beloved mole rat Bucephalus with his Vespa, I lay prostrate behind the family Winnebago, my lips embracing firmly the grand old motor home's tailpipe, tasting the exhaust as it filled my lungs with the sweet harbinger of relief... Huh? Wuzzat? He DID?!? Dammit, Harrison, I told you not to tell *anyone* about that! Last time I get drunk and play "true confessions" with you... Take it back, or I'll post what you told me about the cucumber, the anthill, and that bottle of Wesson oil signed by Florence Henderson. -Todd "Puntura Ridicolo" Bernhardt
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:37:44 CDT From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com> Subject: public embarrassment Message-ID: <F172DIT6bB5Rw1SSfWX0000014a@hotmail.com> Harrison related a touching story from his childhood-- > >"To this day, I cannot listen to Jim Nabors' exquisite rendering of >"Love Is Blue" (Columbia CK-44404)--for that is of course the song >that I overheard--without a pang of complex longing, leavened with >tenderness and an awareness of the fleeting nature of life...." okay, this is yet another reason why I need to buy another computer. I will end up having a brain hemorrage from supressing laughter in a public computer lab, not to mention that the shaking from said supressed laughter tends to make the others in the lab think I'm having one of my "spells". damn. I'm going to be laughing about that one for a while. Especially "The Love that Dare Not Squeak its Name"-- I'm going to have trouble writing a few papers on homosexual Victorians. (And, yes, I've written several.) agh...grad school=goodbye to sleep. It's taking a while to get back into this whole school thing. XTC content-- erm... nope, none, sorry. m. np: Gary Numan, Premier Hits
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:26:45 EDT From: WTDK@aol.com Subject: Remade, Remodeled and Remoulded... Message-ID: <37.a72d12b.26faa1b5@aol.com> > On the other hand, as long as we're re-writing history, everyone with a > CD-burner should replace the original "Dear God" with Sarah M's version. Interesting choice Steve but I'd still have to go for the Xtc's version. Rundgren does a bang up job on the production and that little girl that sings the intro captures my attention every time. Sarah M's is a bit too sensual for my taste (that wouldn't be bad if it wasn't an angry open letter). Still, she does do a very good job. The best remake in my mind is Ruben Blades The Man Who Sailed....(and let's not forget Terry and the Lovemen on The Good Things) XTC content... listened to my CD of "Drums and Wires" the other day, and I'd never noticed it before, but I have one of the ones with the incorrect track listing and missing track. Anyone know of the scarcity of these? Should I eBay it and earn millions? (All talking backwards...) To the best of my knowledge it's pretty common. At least I hope so (I traded mine in sometime ago).I don't believe that Virgin ever corrected their version (although Geffen Records fixed it and added a lyric book to boot. They must have used the Japanese master and artwork). Finally, the sad songs thread -- I'd add Nilsson's remake of Fred Neil's Everybody's Talking At Me. Also, Remember (again by Nilsson). OK, have nothing let to say worthwhile.... Wayne
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:49:28 +0200 From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl> Subject: An Evening Of Genius Message-ID: <20000920234239.37C2BA6D1F@mail.knoware.nl> Calling all Dutch Chalkers - and other Euro-zoners Now is your chance to see the gentle guitar god in action! Dave Gregory will perform live, as part of Steve Hogarth's band 'h', at the Tivoli in Utrecht (NL) on October 31th. That's almost in my own backyard, btw... fancy that! Tickets are already on sale at the usual places @ 40 guilders I saw them at Dingwalls in London last August and they positively rocked. Dave enjoyed himself tremendously and treated us to lots of licks, amazing arpeggios and riveting riffs. The band played a neatly balanced set of own material and surprising covers. A full review of the proceedings at Dingwalls, including some nice photos, has been published in the News section at http://www.guitargonauts.com So, be there or be square ! Mark Strijbos webmaster@guitargonauts.com
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:00:21 +0000 From: The Worrier Queen <myrone@tesco.net> Subject: rain rain go away Message-ID: <39C95DA1.DFD217A0@tesco.net> Misty Shock wrote in Chalkhills 269: > It made me wonder -- why hasn't this theme of rain > been used more in pop music? - Raindrops keep falling on my head (the Manics version please) Singin' in the Rain Rainy Days & Mondays Get Me Down- See Mike's list. See also Smudge's list - (how you doin' Smudge). And Klaus? well you can have a medal with all the extra bits, Now don't do it again. There you are, more water than the average day during a (cricket) Test match. Can we stop now? I'm getting rising damp somewhere obscure. Aren't you the lucky girl then Debora. Thought about sculpting XTC in all that spam? Thanks to all you translators out there - one less thing to worry about. > Anyway, don't you try to tell me they don't have gas in Britain. Have you > seen what those people *eat*? Harrison - ever tried haggis, tatties & neeps? (she said lapsing into the vernacular) You could power most of world if you can convert it to electricity. The Push Your Car bit was sublime - we is amused. Mr Easter > Tuck thine head between thy legs and kiss thine arse > adieu... Can I have a tee shirt with that on please? To go with the SYWPTYRP one I want. I now have access to an MP3 of King Trigger's River - yes it's still pretty good especially the drumming. I am a happy bunny. Cath in NY I'm not going to say that this album's good & this one isn't. They all have good points & they all have bad bits. Bit like humans. If the earlier stuff works better for you that's great. So I'm just sitting on the fence on this one and I'm going to be a pain in the arse and agree to differ. If the earlier stuff works better for you that's great. However as I've had Big Express for a little while thought I'd add my 10p's worth. (Not sure what that is in cents but it's probably not worth the effort to change it.) Best bit on it: The opening to Reign of Blows. Always makes me want to get up & try banging my feet on the floor like a demented flamenco dancer. Pity the people below me. I just love that harmonica. Bit I have problems with: All You Pretty Girls. It's not the song as such, it's just that it conjures up visions of Top of the Pops (when it was on Thursdays) and all I can see is Pan's People/Legs & Co dancing to this. Badly. (Anyone who has ever seen Orange Juice's Rip It Up as "interpreted" by the above will know precisely what I mean.) Bit that messes with my brain: Shake Your Donkey Up. Just how do you shake a donkey up? Stick it on a trampoline? As Rory might say Mr Partridge is doing more damage to ungulates. Fun though. Bit that I imagined differently. Seagulls- Before splashing out on Big Express, I'd read what people has said about this track & I thought it would sound a bit like I Can't Own Her. Whoops. Wrong planet. Best Colin song: I Remember the Sun No arguing. This is it. Nostalgic bit: Red Brick Dream When I was a lot younger, and smaller, than I am now Swindon didn't mean book clubs, cars or (mea culpa) XTC. It meant trains. My family has been working for GWR (the Great Way Round or God's Wonderful Railway), then BR, for a long time. You can, cough, cough, almost smell the, cough, dirty black smoke. Sniffly bit: This World Over. 'Nough said. Gets me out of bed bit: Come on, you've probably worked this one out. Wake Up. Try it. You shouldn't oversleep ever again. If reality's like this I want out. Now. Can you play this at my funeral bit: Train Running Low on Soul Coal. Wish I'd had this when I was thirty just for the puppy lyric. Remind me again, what's so good about getting old? Finally (aren't you glad?) I'm serving up this question for all you Chalkhillians: Which song out of the whole XTC catalogue wouldn't you miss if it were to totally disappear from this bit of the Universe? I'm offering up Dear God. I hate the kid and the lyrics are about as subtle as the proverbial flying mallet. If you love this, then good for you. I can't and please don't try to convert me, I'll just get tetchy and you wouldn't like me when I'm tetchy. SNAFU* Jayne the Worrier Queen He Toi Whakairo He Mana Tangata Where there is artistic excellence, there is human dignity. Maori saying * Smarties Not Available For Underlings in case you were curious.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:35:18 -0700 From: Ed Kedzierski <ed.kedzierski@chromaticsoftware.com> Subject: Funny Message-ID: <08B5DDC2BABCD311BFC6005004A884B013B806@mgcservices.com> In 6-272, Robert Wood took the words right out of my mouth when he said: >I'd like to forward Futurama as the funniest cartoon. I couldn't agree more - this show has been relentlessly amusing since it started, and has really overtaken the Simpsons in terms of laugh density per episode and "on" episodes per season; it's like the majority of the episodes are as funny as the less common better Simpsons episodes, if that makes any sense (although the "behind the laughter" Simpsons from last season was one of the funniest recent ones). By the way, does anyone find the early Simpsons episodes with the different animation/drawing style (and creepily "unformed" character voices) almost unbearable to watch? Of course, the Tick was usually good for quite a few laughs, with some really great episodes standing out, but there just weren't enough of them - now there's a series that should have gone on longer (I know, there's supposed to be a live action one starting this season, but we'll see...) Last night I saw "the Tick's moustache" episode, and was just killing myself ("that moustache kinda feelin'...") The Family Guy... hmm. I've seen bits that have made me laugh, but something about it just doesn't appeal to me, it seems forced or contrived somehow. (And I'm not overly fond of the style it's drawn in.) "This Program Has Been Modified To Fit Your Primitive Screen" Ed K.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:49:45 CDT From: "vee tube" <veetube@hotmail.com> Subject: XTC Fall Down, And Can't Get Back Up! (MP3s) Message-ID: <F327e9F6EBSotwBP8xi000004ce@hotmail.com> Hi! There! Hey! There! Ho! There! We're as drunk as we can be! I guess Andy and the guys used to drunk a lot. Sometimes they even jammed, and taped it. I drunk too! So last night this weird 'Corndog@fart' E's me, and says, "I like you Kinkyfish idrive". "Me heave more too" Uhmmm... ...I decided not to reply. But, it/what, also included a link to a long forgotten XTC MP3 site. http://www.orangetwin.com/drunken/drunken.html These are the infamous 'English Settlement' drunken jam sessions. They're 160Kbps MP3s, and the sound quality is *way* above average. So grab a cold one,kick back,and see if you can get as drunk as these guys! And let's also tip one back for this... ...Cornfart Doghole guy! Seriously,this ain't my stuff! I wish I had a page like this to share my MP3s witch'ya all. }---:)
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:10:19 EDT From: WTDK@aol.com Subject: A naked lunch with Venus (apples included) Message-ID: <82.e44f6f.26fad61b@aol.com> Smudgeboy - > Steely Dan are quintessentially West coast America - laid back jazzy > riifs, with an undercurrent of East coast hidden sleaze. XTC are (you > see where I'm going here?) quintessentially English, with in-your-face > pop riffs layered with orchestral arrangements. One would almost say > "quirky". (Joke, honest!). Actually would have to disagree with you. Steely Dan is East Coast America with West coast sleaze in the middle (kind of like an Oreo). Becker & Fagen went west because that's where the music biz was based at the time. I actually hear more West coast America in early SD vs. later Dan (which, again, sounds more East coast). Otherwise I agree with you. The only parallel is the fact that they are both duos. You could add quirky perhaps as well (although there are lots of quirky bands). Their devotion to songcraft notwithstanding, they are completely dissimilar in terms of content, context and musical style. Fenn said- >XTC sound like two men in search of inspiration. their last two albums have included no end of 'clunkers', (see the above) relieved by a great songs, 'Easter Theatre' an example. I personally love AV1 and WS has grown on me. I look at WS as an outgrowth of Andy's frustration at not being able to do the bubblegum project at Virgin. So I like both of them a great deal for very different reasons. You could make the same argument about a lot of their albums depending upon whether they do or do not appeal to you. I personally have fav moments even on the weakest Xtc album. So, in short, I disagree about AV1 and WS but agree that a lot of the artist's you listed have released some might fine music. Interesting question on the previous post about the Japanese import. Is the domestic version (UK, US, Canadian, etc.) also in HDCD format? I know the first couple of Kinks reissues failed to mention they were HDCD. Since I know more about music (which isn't a heck of a lot) than engineering maybe someone can explain something to me re: HDCD. I was under the impression that HDCD wasn't necessarily 24 bit. HDCD was a process for improving the sonic quality of the CD and adding warmth to the recording. Is that correct? I'm out of my depth here folks. I just know what sounds great and what sounds like crap. WS sounds pretty darn good. Listening to Steely Dan by the light of Venus Wayne
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:29:47 +0100 From: James.McRae@enron.com Subject: The Dome... a differing view. Message-ID: <OF8C7B656A.3756558F-ON80256961.002B108A@nt.enron.co.uk> David wrote in praise of the Dome....... I also went (last Sunday). I found the show excruciating, and I found large parts of the Dome disappointing - lowest common denominator appeared to be too high a target to aim for. (e.g. the Work Zone was a big advert for the sponsor and four large game tables (pac man - (yeah really)..., Table football, a maths quiz - (oh god!) and a large version of one of those sliding 3x3 letter puzzles). The overwhelming size of the place was the only really impressive thing, but unfortunately it threw into sharp contrast the amount of space that there was there (i.e. the amount of Dome not used). In contrast to David (I respect your opinions, but disagree) I feel that PC is probably what prevented the Dome designers taking risks and being more innovative and adventurous with the content. I found myself thinking that we had not got an awful lot for a |50 entry fee. I couldn't get out of my head that in addition to my entry fee, the people of Britain had paid in lottery sales and taxes approximately |200 towards my visit, |200 towards my wife's visit |200 to my children's visit, as they had for every other person there. I'm not saying that there should be cuts in subsidies for the arts - on the contrary, success in both art and sport represent a big prestige and cultural gain for a country using a relatively small outlay, but to blow all that cash on something so empty-headed is nigh on criminal. |750 million would have endowed a new art school at a university, or protected and purchased thousands of playing fields. In spite of all this, if you are in the London area and can get reduced price tickets (don't pay |20 - its not worth it), go - you will be amazed to see how money can be blown.... (they are also selling some great Dome tat at vastly reduced prices - it is soo bad, it's good!) rgds James
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:27:55 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" <tim63@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: xtc? I should say. Message-ID: <002401c023b6$9d05d8c0$68951b3f@tim63> Hi everyone! >Is it just me or are others feeling that xtc >reached their peak a few years ago? Well, I think it's you and maybe a couple of others. But I'm sure that the majority think that AV1 & AV2(WS) are the best things XTC have ever put out. (And I'm definitely with the majority on this.) >XTC sound like two men in search of inspiration. >their last two albums have >included no end of 'clunkers', (see the above) >relieved by a great songs, 'Easter Theatre' an example. I guess you think there are more "clunkers" than good songs. I strongly disagree. Yes, there are a couple of songs that don't do much for me ("I Can't Own Her" and "Wounded Horse" almost always get skipped when I'm playing the CDs.) But if you want "inspiration", look no further than: "River of Orchids", "Easter Theatre", "Green Man", "Your Dictionary", "Fruit Nut", "Harvest Festival", "Boarded Up", "Church of Women" and "The Wheel and the Maypole". These nine songs are more inspired than anything XTC have ever done before. Better than "Dear God", more powerful than "Train Running Low...", able to leap "Jump" in a single .... well you get the idea. I my opinion, the 9 songs listed above are better than any other songs in the XTC catalogue. I think that with AV1&AV2 that XTC have NOW reached their peak. I think it unlikely they will ever come up with something better than these 9 songs. But who knows - they could surprise me again! Later! XTC SONG OF THE DAY: Harvest Festival
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:22:56 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net> Subject: Re: AV1 better than Wasp Star? Message-ID: <l03130300b5ef9d0b75ef@[208.13.202.242]> >> XTC content.....I like AV1 better than Wasp Star. Any takers? > >Have to agree with you there. I'll probably be tarred and feathered for >this, but Wasp Star is actually my least favorite XTC album at the >moment. (At least, it's the one that I least often have the urge to play.) >The only song on it that I really love is The Wheel & the Maypole. The >album is electric, but it just doesn't have that spastic energy that >powered their first few albums. Probably the previous album it most >resembles is The Big Express, which is incidentally one of my favorites, >probably because it was their most mature album yet at that point but >still had remnants of that energy. > >Sylvan Me three, I still am awed by AVI, I think it's the best thing XTC's ever done. Wasp Star is crisp and punchy and goes down like a good chinese dinner, but like a good chinese dinner it leaves me hungry and empty after an hour or two. It also suffers from that lack of extra layering that made all their albums distinctive that I didn't notice until it was gone, it's called Dave Gregory. His input gave XTC that extra something that would have made Wasp Star a great rather than good pop album. Now that the New XTC Album luster has worn off, it's not my first choice for my own enjoyment, but before I get tarred and feathered, it's possibly the first album I'd take out to play to an XTC newbie. It's their most accessible, and there's nothing on it particularly difficult or off-putting. Somehow Mummer would be too scary for Air Supply fans, for example, speaking of "Human Alchemy"- it's rather bloody-minded of Andy to start off an album side with that one. Christopher R. Coolidge Homepage at http://homepages.together.net/~cauldron/homepage.html
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:41:09 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net> Subject: Annoying our parents Message-ID: <l03130301b5efa1d495d2@[208.13.202.97]> >Possible new thread? "Music you never expected Dad/Mum would like". > >This was suggested by an incident that happened to me earlier this year. My >dad, a fairly typical '70s parent, spent most of my teen years reciting the >conventional Generation Gap mantras -- "You call that music? That's not >music!", "Look at that long-haired animal!" "Turn that bloody jungle music >down" "They're all a bunch of druggists" etc etc. The fact that my earliest >music exposures were relatively MOR offerings like Elton John and Cat >Stevens (I know, I know) gives you some idea of how conservative their >tastes are. Needless to say the shit really hit the fan when I discovered >stuff like Lou Reed and Led Zeppelin. I believe I mentioned my mother's pricking up her ears at Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica, which was actually designed to annoy her. Considering she used to listen to jazz in college I shouldn't have been surprised. She's also enjoyed the Richard Thompson I've played her, particular the Industry album he did with Danny Thompson(no relation)a few years ago, which was more jazzy than anything else he's done. She'd probably find AVI interesting. As for my father, his taste runs mostly to church music, show tunes, and believe it or not, Spike Jones and cowboy singers like Gene Autry. He's been patient with the alt-country stuff I've brought down to his summer house in NH, but he tends to get restless after a while and starts mumbling about how he thought it was his house. We share taste in comedy though; I don't have to ask him twice to put on one of his Monty Python tapes. He's obsessed with the Being Eaten By A Crocodile contest for some reason. I'm waiting to see what he thinks of Bill Hicks. Christopher R. Coolidge "A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has 10 GREAT laws. A Good law protects me from you. Laws against murder, theft, assault and the like are good laws. A Poor law attempts to protect me from myself." - Unknown
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:26:21 -0400 From: MinerWerks <dminer@gte.net> Subject: Countdown... Message-ID: <a04310100b5ef806f712a@[63.25.149.138]> Greetings, Chalkers... I've been batting about this idea for a while, and now that fall is upon us, I think it's time to spring it on you... (no pun intended!) Every year I spend my weeks leading up to Christmas assembling an audio collection of unusual holiday tunes. An idea that really excited me was to assemble a Chalkhills holiday collection. I would love to put together a holiday CD *by* people on this list *for* people on this list. So, I need to hear from anyone interested in contributing to a Chalkhills Holiday CD. I'm willing to entertain any ideas for song contributions, including songs on *all* forms of year-end celebrations - Christmas, New Year's, Chanukah, Kwaanza, Boxing Day (not very exciting in song, I assume, but...), and any other celebrations I may have forgotten or never knew of. Heck, I assume this will be finished in December, but I'm willing to entertain Thanksgiving songs. I'd be especially tickled if some of the uber-creative people in here would reinterpret known holiday tunes in the mold of an XTC number, or rewrite the words of an XTC tune in the spirit of the holidays. Of course the thing that first pops into mind is doing a cover of the three tunes I can think of relating to the holidays ("Thanks for Christmas," "Countdown to Christmas Party Time" and "Always Winter, Never Christmas" - not explicitly about the holidays, I know...). Of course, everyone wouldn't be able to choose that last option, or this would turn out to be one repetitive disc! Original holiday compositions are certainly welcome, and covers of holiday songs by artists XTC fans know and love can be considered. I'd just like to hear clever, melodic, intelligent, and creative music - like I expect from an XTC album. Please email me (dminer@gte.net) with any ideas. And if you're so inclined, I'm willing to accept multiple submissions from people. Ideally, it would be nice to have to prune the selection down to the best of the best, not to have only a handfull of submissions. So, get those ideas flowing, and once I get an idea how everyone on the 'hill is thinking on this, I'll work up a timetable for submissions, production and orders. If you got a copy of my CD of "Jules Verne's Sketchbook," you should already know what kind of effort I would put into this project!! Thanks, = Derek =
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:24:57 +0100 From: "Smith, David" <David.Smith@tfeurope.com> Subject: RE: There's no place like Dome Message-ID: <4BBE67B71C1DD411A23600508B65F71E68628C@tfsecmsg04.tfseur.co.uk> Sylvan said: "Don't forget to remove Omnibus from Nonsvch. <snip> As a matter of fact, Bungalow and That Wave can go, too. <snip, snip>" Aaaaaargh, oy oy, leave it, leeeeave it! Gggrrrrrrrrrrrrr! <tape> <tape> Oh, and am I the ONLY person who likes "Frost Circus" and "Procession"? **** Adrian Ransome said of me: David "Sir Smudge of Boy" Smith wrote of the Smashing Pumpkins: >Have you ever seen a sadder example of ageing pop >stars..... ..right after he posted a glowing tribute to Sir Elton of the John..... go, as they say, figure. Errrrrr, that's me busted innit? The only defence I have is that Elton has ALWAYS been a preening ninny and that's part of the act. I'd be more worried if he started dressing in tight black leather and glowering at the camera! (Urgh, doesn't bear thinking about, duzzit?) **** I liked David Seddon's impassioned defence of the Dome - and agreed with it for the most part. I do, however, have to take issue with his assertion that the price of the Dome is worth foregoing the cost of three fully-functional hospital wings, or 10 operating theatres, or 30,000 NHS beds, or 50 MRI scanners. It's all well and good having a great centre for the arts and expanding the mind, but surely a LASTING legacy of the new millennium would have been getting the homeless off the streets, making sure the elderly can live with a degree of dignity, or ensuring that - after 4,500 years of human "progress", people weren't still dying on trolleys in hospital corridors. Yes, the Dome is a great attraction and was a wonderful concept and it SHOULD have been something that future generations could look at and say "wow, what a great piece of work", just like they do with the Eiffel Tower. It's just a terrible shame that various political and business interests turned it into a symbol of mis-management, greed and (now, it looks like) corruption, so much so that within five years no trace of its existence will remain - except perhaps the debts. Still, go and see it while you can - it IS a good day out. Oh, and Chopin? Spot on mate! **** Sarah D said: "It's Raining Men" I'm sorry. So you bloody well should be! Why do ALL dance DJs insist on playing this song - at my mate's wedding last year, he gave the DJ a list of songs he was EXPRESSLY forbidden to play, including : It's Raining Men (obviously) I Will Survive (natch) Eye of the Tiger (punch the air, punch your partner . . .) Hi-Ho Silver Lining (everbody sing . . .) Come On Eileen (do that ragamuffin dance) Oops Upside Your Head (I'm NOT sitting on that floor in this suit!) What did the DJ do? He played 'em all. What did my mate do? He refused to pay the DJ. Nearly ended up in fisticuffs until the DJ apologised and took 25% off his bill - I love other people's weddings. Oh, alright, here's the thread - what "classic" dance floor fillers would YOU not allow the DJ to play at your wedding / party / barmitzvah? ***** Chris Coolidge was talking about the sax breaks and said of Junior Walker: "Better him than Kenny G for sure, or David Sanborn (who once played on an Ian Hunter album, come to think of it, the same one Jaco Pastorius played bass on)" Now Messrs Sanborn and Pastorius are (or were, in Jaco's case) mighty fine musicians. Just goes to show that, far more important than the ingredients, is how you mix them! **** And finally . . . rising to the bait, Fenboy's list of bands who have recently released better stuff than the "two men in search of inspiration" who's "last two albums have included no end of 'clunkers" Moby? David Gray???? Looks like you you missed out: Britney Spears Five S Club Seven Mr Blobby Strewth, is nothing sacred :-) Smudge "Put those bloody scissors down" Boy E-Mail: david.smith@tfeurope.com
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