Chalkhills Digest Volume 6, Issue 147
Date: Friday, 2 June 2000
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 147
Friday, 2 June 2000
Topics:
Basque bits
anatomical inspiration
Weakest track on the album?
Come to Sunny Swindon
Boston and Buffalo Area Radio Stations Request
No more DEMOS
Too Easy! (Twice)
Re: Wounded Horse/ Boarded Up/
With A Bullet
A School Guide
Venus Apples Not Falling Far From Tree
Let Me Take You Down
Yazbek standing upright
XTC review, Didn't Hurt a Bit
Jim Dan(dy)Demos
Swami Sez'
compost post
"Didn't Hurt a Bit"
RE: S.F.MP3 and Mr.(not so)SMART
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:40:49 +0200 From: otadui@euskalnet.net Subject: Basque bits Message-ID: <3936A021.7F7443DD@euskalnet.net> Hi all, It's been the first time in my life that I got a record before its release date: I received at home the nice package from London on May the 22, what a fast service Coocking Vinyl people !! I have a new CD player in the car, and since I got WS the only thing I'm listening to is that, well, err ... I also burned a Fireworks-Story of the Middle Ages-Apple Venus 1&2 compilation Cd which also includes gems like Bumper Cars, Dame Fortune and Wonder Annual among others. The result : terrific amazing stuff ,it was a pity that some songs remained out though. I love the new album. I understand that people in the list might be unsatisfied with very commercial or b-side like songs. It also happens to me, and had happened too with other XTC releases: they contain excellent wise pop music along with IMHO banal songs. I just skip them or give them less audition than the best ones (which are very diverse for every and each of us , the XTC fans, isn't it ? ) Anyway, these are my highlights : 1- Curch of Woman (still love both solos ) 2- We're all Light 3- Boarded Up (incredibly improved) plus brilliant moments like: the intro for ITMWML (I never thought ITMWML could be improved that way, well done !); the low background vocals on COW ( chuuuurrrrchhhhhhhhh..... ); the long long WORD on Playground (inventive indeed ); the whole sound is very very good too, there are lots of bass, guitar and drum details to explore with more attention. Mark: I am also hungry for new XTC material, but I suppose that's the fate of people who fortunately have had the chance to hear unreleased stuff, : - ( Pancho wrote El CD esta cabron Pancho,me ha encantado esa expresion, no conocia esa acepcion caribena de *cabron* (por aqui tiene un sentido.mas o menos peyorativo ) That''s all Regards / Saludos Imanol
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:44:54 -0700 (PDT) From: brown <mb2@deltanet.com> Subject: anatomical inspiration Message-ID: <200006011744.KAA28798@mail2.deltanet.com> Victor, you laughed and then wondered- << My Brown Guitar sounds like the entire Beatles 'White Album' put into a blender. The lyrics make no sense at all but they're probably about my penis (modestly sized but beautifully formed)" I'm still crying from laughter. the question has to be asked, has Colin written any songs about his body parts?>> why, yes... that would be Fruit Nut(s)... and you thought it was about gardening... Debora Brown
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:35:34 EDT From: StucoHomes@aol.com Subject: Weakest track on the album? Message-ID: <a9.653b222.266806f6@aol.com> In a message dated 6/1/00 12:47:48 PM US Eastern Standard Time, <owner-chalkhills@chalkhills.org> writes: > Clouds, Standing In For Joe, Stupidly Happy, Playground. I'm > ashamed to admit that I find I'm the Man Who Murdered Love the > weakest track on the album... Have you listened to the lyrics?! They're damn clever. As opposed to "Jack and jillion years ago..." what the HELL was he thinking? For me, the standout tracks are tracks 1 to 12. This album is flawless. - - - Reverend Jody L. Barnes "May the baby Jesus shut your mouth and open your mind." - Don Vliet "Being disabled has never really interested me very much. It's very serious, like plumbing is serious, but I'm also not interested in plumbing." - Robert Wyatt (paraplegic)
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:34:57 +0100 From: John Peacock <johndrewp@zoo.co.uk> Subject: Come to Sunny Swindon Message-ID: <3936ACD0.BAFB19EB@zoo.co.uk> Organization: The Nice Organization > Michael D. Myers said: > > - if you can ever get to Swindon, do it, since you will have a much better > feel for the context of the settings and stories that Andy and Colin build > into their songs "Eh, Ethel, look 'ere." "What is it, Cyril?" "Outside o' Partridge's house..." "Not another one..." "Yup. Fifth American this week." "What's 'e doin'?" "Just lookin' as far as I can tell..." "Ts." "Americans." "'E seemed so quiet when 'e moved in, and then 'e built that shed, and now..." "Americans." "Yup. It'll be the Japanese next, you mark my words." "Ts." "They'll come over here with their raw fish and their giant robots and their fiendish oriental ways and stand outside o' Partridge's house, just *starin'*." "Ts." "I'll have to alert the council, there's nothin' else for it." "Mmm." "Americans." "Ts." -- In the spirit of shameless self promotion, my songs may be found at: http://www.mp3.com/peacock "sell yourself, sell yourself, expect nothing" as a sage saith.
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:43:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Molly Fanton <mfanton99@yahoo.com> Subject: Boston and Buffalo Area Radio Stations Request Message-ID: <20000601184328.2731.qmail@web1301.mail.yahoo.com> Wes Wilson asked if someone would post the request lines for the Boston area radio station (mainly WBCN, WBOS, and The River) well, I found WBOS's (great station). The phone # is: (617) 931-1111 and the e-mail is wbosonline@aol.com. I couldn't find WBCN's request line on their website, and I can't remember the River's call letters. For those 'Hillers who are in the Buffalo area check out these radio stations and their request lines. CKEY (The River): Request over the Phone: 1 (800) 628-5488 or 1 (905) 356-6710 by email 101.1River@therivermail.com I couldn't find the request line for WEDG (The Edge), but they have a way to request a song on their web site. Just go to http://www.wedg.com. Those are the only two Buffalo area radio stations I could think of. CKEY is actually from Niagara Falls, Ontario, but their a cool station IMHO. They've played a few XTC in their time, even one of their DJs is an XTC fan, but I can't remember who. Molly ===== Molly's Pages: http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/index.html My Tribute to Talk Talk & .O.Rang: http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/talktalkorang.html
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:57:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Molly Fanton <mfanton99@yahoo.com> Subject: No more DEMOS Message-ID: <20000601185732.5325.qmail@web1301.mail.yahoo.com> IMHO, I think those of you who listened to the stupid demos ruined it for yourselves. So I suggest no more bitching about "oh it should have sounded better, like on the demos" or "oh I don't like that song, because it doesn't sound like the version on the demo." It's your own faults for listening to the demos in the first place. I'm so glad Andy has decided not to give out his demos, because how can he trust anybody when they promised him that they wouldn't give it out to people. So I hope you people with demos are very happy with yourselves for ruining it for yourselves. Molly ===== Molly's Pages: http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/index.html My Tribute to Talk Talk & .O.Rang: http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/talktalkorang.html
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:04:59 +0100 (BST) From: Rory Wilsher <rory_wilsher@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Too Easy! (Twice) Message-ID: <20000601190459.3244.qmail@web1505.mail.yahoo.com> Jim Smart wrote: ...uh, can anyone can think of a word for Spring that starts with V? Vernal. As in "vernal equinox". I knew there was a reason I took Latin at skule! Also, Iain Murray: We did not "just" beat Zimbabwe. We thrashed 'em! Took them to the cleaners. Roasted their nuts over an open fire. Knocked them off their axis mundi, to coin a phrase. Rory "Anybody wanna see my axis mundi?" Wilsher
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:07:18 +0100 From: "Pledge" <PLEDGE7@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Wounded Horse/ Boarded Up/ Message-ID: <004401bfcc04$fde2d4e0$154d063e@PLEDGE> Dave asked: Is "Wounded Horse" (musically) the song Depeche Mode forgot to write? Surely they already recorded it, the riff reminds me of "Get Right With Me" from the fantastic "Songs Of Faith And Devotion" album. ----------------- Has anyone else spotted the irony in Boarded Up? I don't imagine the fact that Swindon's finest band never plays live will have helped promote a prosperous live music environment down that way. Finally, as a result of my team (Gillingham) winning promotion to Division 1and Swindon Town's (hilarious) relegation, I won't get to visit Swindon next season. All I want to know is is the Magic Roundabout still there? I haven't had the pleasure of visiting Swindon since May 1987. Any information will be appreciated. Thank you. Pledge
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:12:47 +0200 From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl> Subject: With A Bullet Message-ID: <20000601200806.965BDA6D05@mail.knoware.nl> Dear Chalkers, Chris asked: > rated 19 in New Zealand???? Excuse my ignorance but would anyone know > how these ratings are worked out?? Andy has often said that you only have to think about making an album and you go straight in at number 90 in New Zealand. He's probably referring to the fact that in a relatively small market (like New Zealand or Holland ) it is a lot easier for a new act or album to get noticed, break through and have a notable impact on the charts. In 1979 they did just a couple of gigs in N.Z. and hey presto! Drums And Wires was a hit - it went gold or to number 1 or even both. I'm too lazy to check, but it's mentioned in Chalkhills & Children - The Book. yours in xtc, Mark S. @ the Little Lighthouse www.come.to/xtc
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:13:50 +0100
From: "John Bartlett" <John@bartlett132.screaming.net>
Subject: A School Guide
Message-ID: <000c01bfcbfd$86a22180$bc82bcd4@e.e>
Hello all,
spotted in the Colchester branch of Andys Records :-
1 copy of the School Guide To XTC, going for #13.99.
Cheers,
John.
Oh...and Come on you Irons !
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 15:37:10 EDT
From: Blueruins@aol.com
Subject: Venus Apples Not Falling Far From Tree
Message-ID: <75.4e4941f.26681566@aol.com>
This is my take on Bob O'Bannon's comments about XTC not "alarming"
themselves or managing to transcend their previous efforts.
I'm wondering what you thought of Apple Venus Volume 1? I don't know if
you're a songwriter yourself but what they accomplished with that album is
very difficult to achieve. To make a valid rock album practically without
drums in an era where rhythm dominates everything else is no paltry task.
The complex syncopation's that made the orchestral work so effective had to
take almost infinite patience and care not to mention that there is no
blueprint for this kind of "pop" anywhere, Andy practically had to invent a
new vocabulary to make AV1 possible.
The other side of this coin is also a product of getting better at your
craft. Mr. Moulding and Partridge are learning to condense their feelings
into tighter sleeker packages because as they have become more experienced
they have learned to express themselves more succinctly. Having developed
their own unique vocabulary they are no longer in need of "reinventing the
wheel." Their experimentation has become more subtle because of their more
closely approaching their musical goals, but they are definitely still
reaching.
It is very, very difficult to write a memorable melody, and meaningful
lyrics with unique interesting music. XTC delivers more and more
consistently with each new disc. They are one of a handful of artists who
have managed to do this for almost thirty years. The devil is in the details.
Oh, and my thoughts on the TWAT and COW; "could Andy really be that clever?"
...I for one hope not.
Brett Reeves
"I find your lack of faith disturbing"-Darth Vader
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:12:46 +0200 From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl> Subject: Let Me Take You Down Message-ID: <20000601200758.EB021A6CFC@mail.knoware.nl> Dear Chalkers, Tom Kingston said: > I have heard Andy & Colin's Strawberry Fields MP3 Slight correction: The "band" in question is called Colin's Hermits and the singer is indeed Andy Partridge but _all_ the other parts have been painstakingly recreated by Dave Gregory in his home studio. So it's actually part of D.G.'s ongoing Remoulds project, but this track was released to the general public on a compilation album on Imaginary Records called "1967 - Through The Looking Glass" Two of his other remouldings of classic pop tracks were also released, I Am The Walrus on Without The Beatles (Jar Music) and Third Stone From The Sun appeared on the Hendrix tribute album If 6 Was 9. The rest of them remain as yet unavailable... BTW: it's my (educated?) guess that Dave & Andy could not appear under their real names because they were still under contract and Virgin wouldn't let them have any fun. Summarizing: Colin's Hermits is really Dave with Andy on vocals and Colin didn't have anything to do with it. yours in xtc, Mark S. @ the Little Lighthouse www.come.to/xtc
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 14:06:59 -0700 From: Bob Estus <bestus@scea.com> Subject: Yazbek standing upright Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000601090322.00b97880@mail.989studios.com> Play-goers, As promised almost a year ago, a review of Yazbek's "Full Monty". [spoiler: if your name is Ira page down now] Last night with a mixture of excitement and trepidation, I took in a preview (the last show before opening night) of "The Full Monty" at the Old Globe Theater in San Diego, Ca. I got to the show a little early so I asked the info-man, who sits in front of the theater (sometimes with his cockapoo), if he knew the shows composer David Yazbek and could he please point him out to me. He did better than that, he called him on over. David remembered my name from a few emails we've passed. We chatted about 15 minutes before the show. He gave me a quick run down of their schedule. The show runs here through July 2nd (worth the trip for L.A. Chalkies) before it heads to Broadway. He confessed to being fairly wiped-out from the hard work. Understandable with openning night being the next day. I got the feeling he was involved with much more production than just penning lyrics and music. When asked if he was involved in casting etc. he briskly replied, "People don't understand *this is* my show." And a great show it was. Set in depressed Buffalo, New York (rather than scenic Sheffield, UK. as in the movie) both Yazbek and book writer Terrence McNally are at ease with it's vernacular. I starts with great number "Scrap" who's lyric's set the tone for a musical that is irreverent (as you would expect from David), clever and funny (really). Then we manage through the obligatory professional male stripper bit. Then a couple of songs to set up story /character -some typical musical fodder before we get to one of my favorite numbers in the show "Big Ass Rock" (as in we can hit you over the head with this....) This is a song where in the 2 tougher main characters offer aid in the form a dozen whacked out suicide solutions to a weaker character who's having trouble offing himself. The show is solid from this point on. Other numbers wiz through several musical styles with hints of Yazbek pop included but the stand outs are the hilarious "Big Black Man" and the sublime "Michael Jordan's Ball". Intermission brings heartfelt applause and the men's urinal is a-buzz with splashy praise. After washing my hands with hot soapy water and a throrough drying. I find Yazbek again to compliment him on the way things are going. As I hoped, Yazbek tells me there's a chance of his band playing locally. At least 2 members Dean Sharenow (drums) and Chris Smiley (bass) are part of the "Monty" orchestra and are in town for the duration of the show. Yazbek has offered to do a performance with his own band, benefiting The Globe, in there outdoor amphitheater. If there isn't interest in this he may look for a local venue (maybe even my favorite that I suggested). This is good because I'm not often in New York where his band usually gigs. The Second Act has numbers that are much more obvious Yazbek stuff. With the inclusion of the clavinette, whimsical flute, and (what is that fish percussion thing?) One number (Breeze Off the River) borrows heavily from his recorded work where another (You Walk with Me) outright lifts a whole melody. That said, stealing from yourself is not a crime, these are very moving moments in the play that spur lots of audience empathy for the characters. Somewhere else he earns points for making lyrical reference to doing something on "my brown guitar". The second act on the whole is tighter. It may be a case of the cast warming up. I expect by the time this reaches Broadway it will be well oiled and some of the earlier numbers will have performances that match the writing. Of course the story line is built on the big ending. The pace is kept up and the ending is unsnapped and pulled off with out a hitch. All-in-all a very entertaining night, even if you know the story. make mine the biggest pouch, -Bob [Newbies - Yazbek: He's got 2 albums of great pop, "The Laughing Man" and "Tock" available at www.war.com cheap. Andy Partridge plays some guitar and donates a song to the first, sings /co-writes a song on the second. Y'might also know Yazbek as the producer of XTC's Testimonial Dinner]
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:15:31 -0400 From: "Michael D. Myers" <mmyers@telcordia.com> Subject: XTC review, Didn't Hurt a Bit Message-ID: <852568F1.007A48D6.00@notes949.cc.telcordia.com> Chalksters and Chalkettes; I was flying from Amsterdam to Newark, NJ yesterday and they gave us a copy of the USA Today newspaper on the plane. I'm not sure if this international version is different in any way than the version that is available in the States, but it had a very favorable review of Wasp Star. In fact, they gave it 3 1/2 stars out of 4. A lengthy quote: "....there's no shortage of inspiration on this follow-up to last year's Apple Venus Vol 1. Veering from buoyant, guitar-fueled romps such as Stupidly Happy and I'm the Man Who Murdered Love to sly, bittersweet confections such as Standing in for Joe and Church of Women, Partridge and Moulding offer a probing study of romantic folly, tempering their sharp wit with yearning. Their supple melodies, insinuating lyrics, and taut, sophisticated arrangements invite comparisons to Squeeze, Elvis Costello, and Steely Dan." Not bad, huh? The review was written by Elysa Gardner, and I especially like the notion of "romantic folly". Pop music should be fun, and this album does have a certain charm because it handles the concept of love in a joyful, playful way that reflects the wisdom and maturity of the songwriters. I also thought that this reviewer put more thought into her write-up than did the dopey Rolling Stone writer, who wrote as if words were required to justify the pre-assigned 3 out of 5 stars given in that rag. Another thought (hold the flames until I finish, please): After listening carefully to Boarded Up on the album as well as Didn't Hurt a Bit on the free CD single, I'm in a quandry. So far, Boarded Up is the weakest cut in my opinion on Wasp Star. It's growing on me, but I like Didn't Hurt a Bit considerably more. My quandry is as follows: I'm tossed up because on the one hand I could appreciate having DHAB on the album not only because it's a better song but also because it seems to fit better thematically into the notion of romantic folly (as noted above) that pervades Wasp Star. However, BU possibly fits better from a sonic perspective (at least when one compares the finished BU to the home demo of DHAB); it also adds a wistful counterpoint to Andy's contributions. I know that if this is the biggest problem that I face, I am living a charmed life. Anyone else have strong feelings about Didn't Hurt a Bit? Mike
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:55:43 EDT From: WESnLES@aol.com Subject: Jim Dan(dy)Demos Message-ID: <a4.51a141c.266843ef@aol.com> Jim Smart spake thusly: I listened 5 times in a row to the lead on the demo of Church of Women. I originally loved how wild and weird it is. But now I'm coming around to liking the album lead better. Fits the song a lot more. The demo one is like a man doing whatever he wants in bed without even considering the woman. The album version starts more slowly. It gets there, but in a more considerate way. Very nicely said. I now find myself in dire need of a hug. Anyone? Wiencek, Dan sayeth: So, while I will avoid hearing demos before an album's release, all bets are off once the album comes out. I want to hear everything and I'll trade and swap and cajole with whoever I need to, and I'm sincerely sorry if that upsets either Andy or Colin. If as Mitch predicts the demo flow will run dry, now that the band isn't shopping for a label (which I'm sure is the real reason the songs proliferated so far, and not Mr. Friedman's humble tape lending), how many great songs will I never get to hear? How many future Dame Fortunes, Bumper Cars(es), or Wonder Annuals will I miss? The thought depresses me. Andy and Colin don't give a rats ass about the demos. Andy's actually shocked that so many of us freaks would even care to hear his home recordings, much less move hell and high water to do so. I interviewed Andy last year and got into a discussion with him about this. He said "I don't mind people having these things as long as they don't pay big bucks for it." He's only concerned about the folks selling the audio for outrageous sums of money to the piranha rabid XTC fans. If you had the opportunity to look at the sketches of your favorite artist you'd eagerly do so, wouldn't you? Why is this any different? I've collected XTC material since Drums & Wires and it's as much fun to open a package with an old XTC poster or a few cdr's/tapes/vids of the dynamic duo today as it was when I was only a lad. XTC is one of the few things in life that consistently makes me happy. I mean truly down deep, idiot grin threatening to burst from my thirty-three year old face, happy. I've traded with at least fifty people on this list and have become steadfast friends with about a dozen XTC traders. I love this band and I love meeting new fans through this list and through swappin' rare audio. If you don't want to hear the demos you don't have to; although, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want to hear unreleased XTC. Just like I can't imagine not eagerly reading each of these wonderful digests as they appear in my box. What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding? wesLONG
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:44:35 -0700 From: "Wes Hanks" <wes@iolvegas.com> Subject: Swami Sez' Message-ID: <001c01bfcc2d$a9af5d20$41b59fce@default> Chalk Awks, There is a distinct difference between the press reviews for AV1 and WS. And, what is the difference? I am hard pressed to find even ONE bad/negative review for WS. (Rolling Stone has not mattered since 1975.) And now as promised some prognostications: Wounded Horse will become a standard drunken sing along at no less than the following events: divorce parties bachelor/bachelorette parties during 'dirty' dancing segments of wedding receptions. and a final prediction: people will have sex while Wounded Horse plays. Wes 'Making Book' Hanks
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:55:06 -0700 From: "Wes Hanks" <wes@iolvegas.com> Subject: compost post Message-ID: <001e01bfcc2d$ac3df740$41b59fce@default> Joe sed, Anyway.... I, too, still get shivery and goosebumpy during the 'decay' portion of TWAT M, even after about 50 listens.. Anyone who does not share the above experience is a soulless, doll-eyed troglodyte. Wes 'Mean-spirited and intolerant' Hanks
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:09:14 +0100 From: "Steven Paul" <spaul@armstronglaw.com> Subject: "Didn't Hurt a Bit" Message-ID: <000201bfcbf4$a8bbc540$0d2aa8c0@me.myoffice.com> The postman delivered my HMV copy of Wasp Star and the complimentary CD 'single' including Colin Moulding's "Didn't Hurt a Bit". I must say . . . awesome tune. It's catchy as hell and sounds right out of late 60's or early 70's folk tunes. Mamas and the Papas, Beach boys ?? I'm not a musicologist or music historian, but this song makes me think of three guys standing on an unadorned stage with a drum kit and two guitars. Andy, Colin and Chuck ala Peter, Paul and Mary? This song belongs on the official CD. The world would be a better place if this song was included on the original release. Could be the next Nigel or Dear God for the band. Oh well, what can you say. See what happens when you're not there the day they vote on the songs that get included on the official release. BTW, love the demo version of TMWML.
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 20:08:25 CDT
From: "vee tube" <veetube@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: S.F.MP3 and Mr.(not so)SMART
Message-ID: <20000602010825.26519.qmail@hotmail.com>
Recently a certain Mr.Smart gave the wrong url
for the Dave/Andy Strawberry Fields MP3. He said it is,
http://www.idrive.com/xtfab
This is, of course, the XTC LIVE! in Philly site!
The correct edress for the S.F MP3 is...
http://www.idrive.com/fabx
I would apologize for this snafu but, I'm not the
one who wasn't so 'SMART'
Oh! I should mention,Mr.Smart asked me to correct this.
(seems like a nice guy)
}---:)
P.S. The ISDN at work was disconnected last week when
the ADSL was hooked up. One week latter, I'm still
waiting for 'sync'. As soon as I get get, I'll up
some more stuff for "all'you'all's"!
P.P.S. DUNKS! Ain't me dude! Muz B U!
eR'eR'eRoughey!OUT!
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