Chalkhills Digest Volume 6, Issue 115
Date: Sunday, 14 May 2000
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 115
Sunday, 14 May 2000
Topics:
Mailer's Huge Dangling Participle
boomatachickatasnakatachickata
Palominos Purple Metal
Split Enz/Crowded House
The List
Eclectic Electric
Videos
Puzzled and astounded
Some People Just Don't Get It
EXPLODE TOGETHER
under the covers
mighty heroes
Independent Interveiw
Size matters?
He Waves It With Secret Pleasure
Imaginary Dance Video
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 14:10:10 EDT From: Hbsherwood@aol.com Subject: Mailer's Huge Dangling Participle Message-ID: <5b.5c8da9a.264ef482@aol.com> >From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp> >Subject: Harrison's Heavy Metal Gimmick > >ok , you do not dig burroughs ... your privilege . but insufferable ? the >man norman mailer described as " the only living american novelist who >may conceivably be possessed of genius " ? a member of the american >academy and institute of arts and letters an " old fraud " ? i shall have >to ask you to step outside ! Doctor Kimball, I believe that as you lie farthest from the pin, the honors fall to you. May I suggest a five-iron, and point out that a mild leftward correction for windage might be called for? Keep your head down, your eye on the ball, and don't press. While our companion is waggling the club head and taking a few warmups, may I just observe that defending William S. Burroughs with the opinions of the incorrigible logroller Norman Mailer is not unlike defending Richard Nixon by resorting to the wit and folksy wisdom of Spiro Agnew. Harison "Why hasn't TVT written to me yet?" Sherwood
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 16:19:57 -0400 From: "Duncan Watt" <dwatt@fastestmanintheworld.com> Subject: boomatachickatasnakatachickata Message-ID: <200005132024.QAA21750@gilgamesh.nh.ultra.net> Okay, people, you know who frickin' ROCKS? Dave Mattacks frickin' ROCKS! I had the unparalleled pleasure of checking out Mr. ROCKS last night with one of my all-time favorite musicians on the planet, Ms. Jennifer Kimball. As a true multi-mega bonus, the rest of the band included Mr. Shimmery chords himself, guitarist Mark Shulman(Suzanne Vega) and guitar god Duke Levine (absolutely one of the greatest unsung guitarists ever, ask Mr. ROCKS, they play together in Mary Chapin Carpenter's band) as well. All of this at The Lizard Lounge in Cambridge, MA, where it's small, dark, and in-the-round, so you can really feel like you're in the band. And they have Tremont Ale *on tap*, so you're just gonna have a good time... I saw two long sets of music made for music's sake, both quiet and loud, rockin' and heartbreaking. JK's songs are complex, full of strong images and changing, swirling rhythms. As Dave as has just moved to Boston, it was only a matter of time before he ended up working with her... although I'm sure Duke Levine had something to do with it as well... To give you an idea of what kind of music was goin' on, covers included Los Lobos' "Dream In Blue" and an achingly slow version of Brian Wilson's "God Only Knows", a total success due to the tremendous power and control showed in the quiet restraint of Mr. ROCKS(and an amazing performance by Levine, with his big red Gretsch adn a passle 'o pedals). This quiet, unassuming man put on one of the most understated drumming performances I've ever seen. Amazing. I knew I'd have a good time; I mean it's like DAVE MATTACKS, but this wasn't one of those kind of starry-eyed fan things, this guy just... rocked. Jennifer didn't know exactly what was going to happen next as far as gigs were concerned. She usu. appears solo or with Shulman as a duo. Her one album on a major label(the new, non-Will Ackerman Windham Hill) is still available, but they didn't pick up her contract because she wasn't(come on now, everyone together) *fucking commercial enough*, so who knows. If you have a chance to see her with Mr. Mattacks, you're an idiot to miss it. Your Pal Duncan ps If they *do* continue to do shows, the info will be up on her site. http://www.jenniferkimball.com -- email me: dwatt@fastestmanintheworld.com surf me: http://www.fastestmanintheworld.com
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 09:59:59 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net> Subject: Palominos Purple Metal Message-ID: <l03130302b543182699f4@[208.13.202.16]> >Wayne commented-- >>Now it looks as if someone needs to start a thread about albums you >>can only listen to one track on but you've inexplicably kept! > >now *this* I can comment on. The Golden Palominos' "Drunk with Passion", >for the track with Michael Stipe, "Alive and Living Now"-- I got that song >stuck in my head over and over again for years, to the point that I finally >had to buy it when I found it used. > >m. I'd add Bob Mould bellowing "Dying From The Inside Out" too, the rest of the album just kind of drones unnoticeably. This is a thread I can comment much more intelligently on, I listen to most of the albums I play all the way through, some tracks I enjoy more than others, but there's little I dislike so much that I'll program it out or skip it, if it comes to that, I'll leave the room, go to the bathroom or something. The list of albums I generally enjoy listening to all the way through is too damn immense, I could go through my entire collection, but I GOT A LIFE. I picked up Deep Purple's Machine Head on cassette recently because I just had to have "Highway Star" to play in the car, for example; occasionally there's one song I just have to have, even if I have little interest in what accompanies it. I'd be satisfied to never hear "Smoke On The Water" again, for example. Speaking of Deep Purple, their last couple of albums with Steve Morse on guitar are actually pretty good; Jon Lord's Hammond organ is mixed way up high and Ian Gillan still works up a great head of steam for his age(though if you actually read the lyrics, they make very little sense). Speaking of heavy metal, I picked up Metallica's Garage Inc. used on a whim; I have never been particularly a fan of theirs until now, though I respect them from a distance as a band who found a sound of their own and expanded on it, and I liked the idea of them doing a whole lot of cool punk/alt metal covers that reflect their formative influences, sources as diverse as early Bob Seger, Diamond Head, The Misfits, Discharge, The Anti-Nowhere League, Motorhead, and many others; except for Seger, this is the same stuff my ex-bandmate and roommate Blizz used to listen to in his hardcore days(his band Zyklon B was doing something very similar to Metallica in Montreal in the early 80's). Christopher R. Coolidge Homepage at http://homepages.together.net/~cauldron/homepage.html "A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has 10 GREAT laws. A Good law protects me from you. Laws against murder, theft, assault and the like are good laws. A Poor law attempts to protect me from myself." - Unknown
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:21:54 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net> Subject: Split Enz/Crowded House Message-ID: <l03130302b5439df97b0a@[208.13.202.20]> >After a rousing farewell tour in '88?- with Tim briefly back on board - Neil >and final Enz drummer Paul Hester formed The Mullanes, which then mutated >into Crowded House. Poor old Eddie Rayner, sick of touring, made one of >history's all-time bad career moves by turning down Neil's offer to join the >new group, and shortly afterwards BOOM! the first album exploded in the US. > >PLEASE check them out if you haven't heard them. You won't be sorry. They >were a great band, one of the best live acts I've ever seen, and I have no >doubt that XTC fans will adore their music. A minor correction from a Crowded House fan; though Rayner never officially joined Crowded House, he did play keyboards on the tour supporting their first album. I should know, I was there, they very proudly introduced their keyboardist as Eddie Rayner, and I was enough of a Split Enz fan to recognise him.(Time and Tide converted me; True Colors was too poppy for me when it first came out, though I came to enjoy it later)Rayner may have been sick of touring, but he presumably had to keep up his mortgage payments. I believe bassist Nigel Griggs was an Aussie, not British. He was with the band for the Frenzy album, which I believe was only released in Canada and the States, it includes late 70's single and EP material, the track selection being somewhat different between the Canadian and American versions. The lead track on the version I have(which I believe is the Canadian version)is the Aussie/NZ hit "I See Red," which I'm not sure is available on a studio album at home. It also includes one of the two Nigel Griggs compositions recorded by Split Enz, the other of which can be found on their very last album. Anyway, British drummer Malcolm Greene didn't join until the studio sessions for True Colours, and was gone by Time And Tide, leaving Noel Crombie to reclaim the drum chair until Paul Hester pushed him back to percussion on the final album without Tim. Sorry about the detail, I used to be on the Crowded House mailing list until CH broke up and we ran out of things to talk about, I left a couple of years before Neil Finn's solo album(which I also highly recommend)when the various band members' future plans were very uncertain. >Dunks Christopher R. Coolidge Homepage at http://homepages.together.net/~cauldron/homepage.html
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 20:23:55 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net> Subject: The List Message-ID: <l03130305b543ae845dcd@[208.13.202.20]> >I'm with you, brother. They had a chance to make a nice, diverting, >"Politically Incorrect"-like show about music, and instead it reflects--all >too tragically well--the blase, middlebrow tastes of VH1's demographic. Does >anyone else get the idea that VH1 is for people who don't really like music? >I have yet to see a single panelist on the List really speak with passion >about music--even the musicians who appear end up sounding lame and >predictable. In one recent 'Hills thread, someone mentioned that the average >adult buys something like 4 or 5 CDs a year (all high-profile, major-label >releases of course)and those are the people VH1 goes after, people who >stopped giving a shit once they had mortgages to pay. > >Dan W The List has its moments, but you really have to look for them. Once in a while I'll leave it on on a weekend afternoon if I've been listening to CDs all day and my wife is starting to get antsy. The other day I caught about ten minutes of it consisting mostly of Bobcat Goldthwaite very surreally burbling about a very strange video he just did that made absolutely no sense, like a typical Syd Barrett solo song. The subject was best video artist. I lost interest when they made Bobcat sit down. Otherwise an interesting musician will show up, such as George Clinton who was on today's installment and said practically nothing in about fifteen minutes, then Sammy Hagar surprised me by choosing Tom Waits as his choice for third most underrated musician. Hopefully Andy can make it interesting. If my cable provider would hurry and finish adding Comedy Central and the Cartoon Network like they're supposed to, I'd watch those practically all the time. Fuck VH1. Christopher R. Coolidge
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 11:06:28 +0900 From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp> Subject: Eclectic Electric Message-ID: <002101bfbd4b$796f5700$7a5791d2@johnboud> all , Can't help but notice ( via various best/top 10/listen to in entirety lists/etc ) how little I seem to share with the vast majority of you with regards to taste in music . I rarely see any jazz , avante garde , classical , ambient or other genres mentioned by Chalkhillers ...Certainly people's tastes must be more eclectic ... Here are some things i still listen to in their entirety ... Durutti Column - every album they ever released XTC - ( see above ) Sun Ra Arkestra - ( see above ) Morphine - ( see above ) Brian Eno - Apollo ; Music For Airports ; On Land Dvorak - Symphony # 9 in E Minor Fairport Convention - Liege and Lief ; Full House Miles Davis - Bitches Brew ; Kind Of Blue McDonald and Giles - McDonald & Giles Weather Report - Mysterious Traveller I would be interested to hear what everybody likes OUTSIDE the pop arena . You can mail me off list ... Sayonara , Sushiman
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Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 22:38:17 -0400
From: Ben Gott/Loquacious Music <gott@tmbg.org>
Subject: Videos
Message-ID: <B54389D9.2447%gott@tmbg.org>
Hillers,
And, in case we weren't sure that the world was still spinning, I just saw
the video for "Senses Working Overtime" on M-TV2. It was followed by the
video for Blur's "Coffee & T.V." (great song, and what a cute little milk
carton!)
Turns out that I *can* attend the Neta Dance Company benefit, so I'll be
there (with bells on) wearing my "Apple Venus Volume 1" t-shirt. According
to their website, "River of Orchids" won't be the only song they'll be
dancing to -- seven other XTC songs have made their way into the
performance!
Love,
Ben
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------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 22:12:14 -0400 From: "Cheryl" <mcgregoc@mindspring.com> Subject: Puzzled and astounded Message-ID: <000f01bfbd49$d305d3e0$0a05f7a5@mcgregocmindspring.com> Hiya, >An oversized reproduction of one of England's most famous ancient >artworks now gazes down from a mountain near the Mexican border city of >Juarez. Juarez.......... *Juarez*?! THAT is the most unlikely place I would expect a replica of the white horse to appear. This is the home away from home of UTEP (Univ. of El Paso) students in need of getting shitfaced. I know because I've been there. I couldn't stop laughing and wondering if this was someone who had indulged in too much te-kill-ya(misspelling intentional). Oh my god....I need a drink. Currently listening to all albums that I just listen to ONE track on. I'm in for a long night. :) Take care, Cheryl
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:02:42 -0600 From: Phil Corless <philco@micron.net> Subject: Some People Just Don't Get It Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000513210242.00a474d0@pophost.micron.net> >I told her it was still XTC. "Oh", she says a little confused. It >makes me chuckle now, but I remembered having my feathers >ruffled at the whole situation. She just didn't understand. I remember in '81 or '82 playing XTC's Drums and Wires on my car stereo for a friend as we drove to a movie.... "Complicated Game" started up, I lean forward to crank up the volume, and say, "This is a great song..." He had never heard XTC before. After about a minute, his review was: "Whoever this is, they're giving me a headache." And then there's my grandma who after hearing a couple of Richard Thompson songs said of him: "He isn't singing, he's just moaning and groaning." This same lovely lady remarked to a room full of people after seeing Michael Jackson on TV: "He looks like he's at the back end of a cow."
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 22:54:42 -0500 From: Mark <lollard@usa.net> Subject: EXPLODE TOGETHER Message-ID: <391E2382.E19C93A0@usa.net> I was listening to the dub experiments today and was wondering if any of you chalkies might have the lyrics for it.......email me if you do.............. xtc song (dub) of the day = The Rotary nonxtc song of the day = who cares til i get wasp star in my rack........LOL Mark in Omahahahahaha
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 23:07:29 -0400 From: mitch friedman <mitchf@mindspring.com> Subject: under the covers Message-ID: <v03007800b543c817380a@[165.121.66.152]> Hi All, Some vague XTC content ahead . . . Hey, if any of you would like to hear some recent cover versions I've done, you can download mp3's from: https://www.idrive.com/kinch99/files/Shared/?current-node=1976193276276899861 The covers are -- 1) Scarecrow People - the backing track made up entirely of layered samples from 51 XTC songs 2) Polly (by The Kinks) - with whimsically aggressive hip-hop drumming and finally 3) She's Checking You Out (by Martin Newell/Cleaners From Venus) - done in a big, overblown Sinatra sorta way. Enjoy, Mitch
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:53:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Long <thlong@interchange.ubc.ca> Subject: mighty heroes Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0005132139120.12547-100000@inch.interchange.ubc.ca> Fuzzy Warbles, Enough with the great lost bands thread. Let's get serious!! Anybody out there familiar with the Mighty Heroes? They were a group of cartoon misfits (eg. Diaper Man & Cuckoo Man) who fought misfit villians. I've spent the better part of the 90's being nostalgic for the show, but only found info on it. Total surreal lunacy. Don't know why, but thought I'd share it. There must be an xtc tie-in somewhere (Dave would probably have made an excellent Rope Man). Ok, not alot of xtc content. Let me make ammends: everyone back to my place for drinks, awright? How's 10:00? thomas top tune: Commerciality
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Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 06:02:53 +0100
From: "John Bartlett" <John@bartlett132.screaming.net>
Subject: Independent Interveiw
Message-ID: <000f01bfbd62$3bb31520$4385bcd4@e.e>
Hello all,
for those in the UK, in todays (14-5-00) Indy on Sunday, in the
"Culture" section , there is a nice 1/2 page interview with AP. I have got
hold of a few copies of said section.I assume you can find the interview on
the Indys' website,but anybody wants the hard copy, let me know and I'll
send them on.
John
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 02:26:00 EDT From: KINGSTUNES@aol.com Subject: Size matters? Message-ID: <c9.4abcc1b.264fa0f8@aol.com> In 6-107, Mr. Lawson politely informed those of us who provided prolific lists of albums for the 'listenable' thread that John Relph's suggested: >>Now what I'm interested in are albums that you simply *must* listen to in their entirety. Not albums that you *can*. When I picked up on the thread, it appeared that the thrust was albums you 'can' listen to from beginning to end, with the implication that no particular song would be left out by choice if possible. I did not see John's suggestion. As for what I assumed was the thread theme, I stand whole heartedly behind the list I posted in 6-104 (All the way through?) and the additions in 6-107 (Addendums, etc.) 'Must' is a strange guideline. "Could you please define 'must' for me, Mr. Prosecutor?" (in my best Clinton voice). When I mulled that over, I first thought that 'must' is really relative to the time and the urge of when you got the album. All of the albums I truly loved I see as love affairs. When I first get them, I fall in love with them and play them to death. You know the feeling - 'I must hear it again!'. Last year I had AV1 and Ben Fold Five's 'Rheinhold Messner' on a back to back tape in my car deck for over 3 months. After a while, you reach a saturation point where you move on to the next must and the recording shuffles back to the shelf. The truly great ones reveal themselves to me over time, when you realize that many years later you can put it on again and love it all over again. Sometimes time enhances their magic, even if you don't play them with the repeated intensity you did when you first got them. Some don't stand that test. I can ALWAYS listen to Bookends by S & G, but Iron Butterfly's 'Ball', which I devoured as a pre-teen, just didn't make the cut. So in that sense, every album on my submitted list were musts, all the way through. But 'must' could mean that once you put that record on, it doesn't make sense to stop it anywhere. I see two possiblilties here - one would be that every track is just so fantastic that you just have to hear them all (Beatle's Revolver & Rubber Soul, the Band's 2nd, Shawn Colvin's A Few Small Repairs); the other would be that the album has a pattern and flow that forces you to not consider it complete unless it's taken as a whole, even with the weaker tracks or obvious blemishes (Beatle's White album & Sgt Peppers, the Who's Tommy, XTC's Black Sea & so on.) Given that, I would knock off a third of my orignal list, but (much to the relief of many of you) I'm not going to spend that energy. Then Mr. Lawson gently admonished: >>Exactly. I mean, COME ON!!!! If you want everyone to read a list of every bastard CD you own then why not make a homepage??? << I have been collecting, performing and listening to music for nearly 35 years. I own nearly 4000 tiltes in my collection (which is still largley vinyl. It takes a while to convert, and I'm not happy with a lot of remasters. Gentle Giant fans, beware!) I listed 235 recordings on my list, which represents less than 5% of my total collection. Not nearly enough to constitute everything I own, and, in context, rather brief. Oh, and by the way, I can assure you that nearly all my CDs had legitimit births. I make no apologies for the fact that I love such a variety and expanse of music, and I only wish to share my joy with all of you! Why else are we here, right? By the way, thank you to those who contacted me directly. Feel free to do so anytime. As for the homepage, if anyone wants to do it for me, well.... As far as this Andy / Sting stuff, nothing Andy sings on this new material sounds nearly as blatantly Stinglike as early Sting sounds like Bob Marley. Listen again closely to 'Jammin' and see who the more obvious emulator is. Besides, WHY would Andy want to sound like Stink? It's just a coincidence, I'm sure.... I have another lost band - anyone remember Pigbag? I think they were from Boston, but I could be confused because I was playing in Boston when my bandmate got the album. They did a wild mix of horn funk and punk. I actually played in a band that covered their very cool instrumental aptly titled 'Papa's Got a Brand New Pigbag'. My first and last attempt at a sax solo (move over, Andy!) I recall Boston being a New Wave mecca in the early 80's. A lot of decent bands that never cracked the big time. There's another lost band on the tip of my toungue who were pretty hot then, but I can't ... Mission of Burma, maybe? Sound familiar, anyone? Also - I checked my copy of Captain Beyond for the personnel. They were Rhino, Lee Dorman (both by way of Iron Butterfly), Rod Evans (Deep Purple) and Bobby Caldwell, whom I don't know of his origins, but his drumming on the album is fantastic. Also - it was the 2nd side that was the killer, not the first. The songs are strung together in a suite with segues and overlaps. The lyrics are good for a chuckle, but great music! >>"A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has 10 GREAT laws. A Good law protects me from you. Laws against murder, theft, assault and the like are good laws. A Poor law attempts to protect me from myself." - Unknown<< "Make more laws and you make more criminals" (paraphrased) - Woody Guthrie Just my opinion! Tom "my list is longer than yours, nyah!" Kingston
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 02:50:21 EDT From: Hbsherwood@aol.com Subject: He Waves It With Secret Pleasure Message-ID: <6f.4eec09c.264fa6ad@aol.com> >From: Kurt M <kurtmuehlner@yahoo.com> >Subject: re: Sherwood on Synesthesia Thank you very much, Kurt, for your compliments, I truly appreciate them, but... Did anyone take notice of RN Van Vliet's fascinating real-world, front-line take on synesthesia in #114...? Plainly, this is first-hand testimony from someone who genuinely experiences sound as color; it differs not a whit from the testimonials in the links I cited in my post. Thank you very much for your forthrightness, RN, I hope we hear a great deal more from you in the future: > Another Satellite starts out a vacant grey and black with > strips of yellow (the drum machine is the yellow part, while the guitar > chords and vocals are what make it grey and black) but ends up more > grey-orange and blue-black, partly because it modulates from Bb to (I > think) G at the very end. Yes. Please. Post more. Post LOTS more. This was utterly transfixing reading. Thank you! ----- Now, I understand that it's a private message that got waylaid (bewilderingly so, but I'm willing to grant the benefit of the doubt). And I appreciate that there is a genuine desire on TVT's part to create a website that's friendly to *all* users. But there were certain aspects of TVT's unintended message to their potential customers that were deeply disturbing to me. I hope that my remarks will be understood in the construcive spirit in which they are intended.... From: "Garret Harkawik" <funktaisia@hotmail.com> Subject: weird message >Hey John- I'm sorry you feel our webiste "sucks." Others have felt it is a >truly innovative and groovy usage of flash animation and illustration. "Truly innovative and groovy use of Flash animation and illustration'" would have served the purpose of the site, rather than demanding that the site serve it. As it stands, it could not be plainer that the entire navigational metaphor is strained to the breaking point by the "innovative" animation. The cart drives the horse on this site, mercilessly and without surcease. The very idea that you need a "metaphor" to drive interface design is hopelessly deluded, a faddish idea that forces you into such silliness as "Click a Stop" (whaaaaa...?) and road signs that promise "Download Mania" but deliver only logic-loops. >I think it was a flawed but bold attempt to create something cooler than >your standard static html site. "Your standard static HTML site" has a damned good reason for existing. Please, TVT people, understand this: Innovation at the expense of usability is NOT COOL. You may have been sold by Socketnet on the idea of a Flash-heavy, UI-insulting web presence, but from where I sit it's only an excuse to rip you off by delivering unusable and hostile interfaces at the expense of a positive user experience. Consider the following question: What kind of violence is being done to the TVT *brand* when I'm looking at pushed music and crappy animation? Why am I looking at a goddamned *bus* when I want to hear downloads from Nashville Pussy? Why am I being forced to wait 2 minutes for Slick-n-Sleazy pushed music that I wasnt even *expecting*, in order to hear the music I *want* to hear? Have you considered the idea that many of your potential customers are in Europe, where they might be required to *pay* for the privilege of watching your precious "bus" animation unfold before them...? I'd love to know how much that Java applet with the different drum voices "cost" me, but fuck if *I* can research it; your JavaScript implementation means can't get to my "reveal source" command! "Fuck you, love TVT Records!" >It is old and crusty at this point and we have >are building a wholly new site. New in-house design team. Good, and best of luck to you. I profoundly hope that you test your new design on large numbers of actual users, and that you listen to what your users tell you. I hope your market research leads you to lose Socketnet, who are doing you NO favors. They have no tangible clue about interface design, and they have been doing violence to your brand since the site began. >Tech note: The home page does not crash all browsers. It is especially >problematic with certain computer models using Internet Explorer. It is >definitly designed for higher end users with lots o memory/ram and good >connections. On my G4 using a T1 is hums. Can you conceive, TVT, of the sort of utter hatred for the ordinary user this sort of observation manifests? Please, please, PLEASE bear in mind that site design that necessitates this sort of self-defense is elitist, despicable, and utterly beyond contempt? "On my G-4 Mac on a T-1 it hums"...? So, on your Quadra 610 on a 28.8 modem, it....never gets there...? Sincerely (really!) Harrison Sherwood Senior User Interface Designer, America Online, Inc.
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 02:59:29 EDT From: CMGNM@aol.com Subject: Imaginary Dance Video Message-ID: <31.50c4956.264fa8d1@aol.com> Hey Folks, First time delurking to say I've been listening to "I'm The Man Who Murdered Love" from CMJ magazine's CD insert. It's great to hear the freshness in Andy's voice with this being the first single from Wasp Star. I like the tonal qualities in his high and low lead vocals. Yet, regardless of the song's obviously infectuous melody, it doesn't "take me away" like I'm hoping the remainder of Wasp Star will. Ten days, and I can't wait!!!! And, I keep getting imaginary ITMWML video images in my head. You know, the kind where the visuals have nothing in common with the message? I'm seeing a bunch of retired folks standing around a poolside, and a guy with a microphone teaching hokey-pokey style dance steps to everyone as this song plays on and on. No ambient film sounds, just pure XTC. But that's just me........... Tom Albuquerque, NM
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