Chalkhills Digest Volume 5, Issue 60
Date: Friday, 15 January 1999
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 60
Friday, 15 January 1999
Today's Topics:
Black Sea Review
ULTRAMARINE/XTC connection?
The Shaw Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave
Tyranny? You've got to be kidding
Of Rush and Radio
Skylarking Gold Ultradisc
Any volunteers
The tyranny of the stupid...
Re: This World Over
The Duncans Bracket My Racket
Japanese LE of AV
Raygun
Re: Dave's Departure
DG is crap !!
Re: David Oh For ****'s Sake
MP3 Demos
Re: Just about all I can take...!
And Annudah Ripping Yarn
Oh deary me.
Re: Stadium Dogs
Some Responses: 56,57,58 & 59
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt_Kaden/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com Message-ID: <852566F9.005ABACF.00@mta2.lotus.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:23:11 -0500 Subject: Black Sea Review XTC Black Sea As is evident on the cover, this band is now an army, a squadron, a fighting unit. Judging by their countenance, they are angry and they're standing behind what they believe in 100%. This suspicion is confirmed when the band breaks into track #1 - "Respectable Street". How can they be so mad and so comical at the same time? Once again there is far more in here than there needs to be; they go all the way and cram so much into these recordings and generally work far beyond the call of duty. Their use of effects is self-indulgent and incredibly effective. It's refreshing to hear a group with such conviction use flanging and delay and get away with it without fail. They have a great sense of timing, as well as spacing, and this is key. The effects, along with supplementary sounds, illustrate the line of the lyric and the same is true of the musical flourishes from musician extraordinaire Dave Gregory: what we get in the end is an idea taken to its full extreme, illustrated and accented by injections of explosive oil paint splotches. "Towers of London" conjures up moods initially stirred by The Beatles, though with an entirely new sound. An outstanding accomplishment on all counts. "No Language In Our Lungs" is a surprise to everyone, including those in the band I suspect. Although it's played with the usual crashing force, this is the first song by XTC to receive 'ballad' status. The words are about the loopholes in communication and the frustration in ultimately not being able to translate what is going on with your emotions. A brilliant performance and perfectly captured by producer Steve Lillywhite... Overall the sound is more metallic than their past records. The drums sound a bit obtrusive from song to song but this is good or bad depending on who you are and what you want out of life. These revolutionaries have released yet another revolutionary batch of powerful entities, full of melodic illusions and genuine inspiration. ***** 5 stars out of 5
------------------------------ Message-ID: <369E1E66.9D67E6F7@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:42:14 -0500 From: AUTOreverse <autoreverse@hotmail.com> Organization: http://come.to/autoreverse Subject: ULTRAMARINE/XTC connection? Hiya peeps, While recently reading through the TRANSISTOR BLAST booklet (checking out the Terry Cambers typo, actually) I spied that someone named IAN COOPER mastered all the tracks (at Metropolis Studios, London). Could it be that this is the same IAN COOPER who is one half of the brilliant duo ULTRAMARINE?!?!? Or is this just yet another case of wishful thinking on my part? I mean, after seeing that our BARRY ANDREWS had engineered some Peel Sessions on the CHAMELEONS "Peel Sessions" CD, I figure that anything is possible. More or less. Ian C Stewart bizarre depiction: http://come.to/bizarredepiction
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Message-ID: <900822C71730D2118D8C00805F65765C2F3CC8@EINSTEIN>
From: Jill Oleson <oleson@moneystar.com>
Subject: The Shaw Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:32:58 -0600
"There's a time to live and a time to die,
I smoke Elvis Presley's toenails when I want to get high"
-- Paul Leary, Butthole Surfers, in the song
"The Shaw Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave"
Okay, Chalkers, let's face two things:
1. Elvis Presley has achieved a cultural icon status
many of you will never understand. And that's okay,
just don't diss him on his birthday. ;)
2. Sometimes Chalkers are laughing as they write
items to post to the group; sometimes other Chalkers
laugh as they read them. Both are eminently doable.
Try it sometime.
noselo llij
de la isla de tejas
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:13:56 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff <blukoff@alvord.com> Subject: Tyranny? You've got to be kidding Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990114105422.24051A-100000@locutus.alvord.com> > From: "Molly Fanton" <mollyfa@hotmail.com> > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:06:34 PST > > I hate people like you who say things like that. I wish I could do > that, but I have bills to pay. I'm not a millionaire, like some of you > think you are. I just don't really understand how can anybody afford > things with bills and stuff like that. Or are most of you people that > life at home with their parents and don't have to bother with bills. I I happen to know for a fact that at least three people on this list, and I suspect many more, are not millionaires, do not live at home with their parents, and do have to pay bills each and every month. But that assumption isn't what bothers me... > understand this is a forum for people to talk about XTC, but do you > really have to remind us who can't afford things like the different > versions of AV? I'm really getting sick of it. I joined this list to ...what bothers me is that because you yourself can't afford something, you can't comprehend how anybody else could possibly spend money on it, and therefore you want them to shut up. Nobody who is talking about the Japanese import of AV is doing so to make you feel bad... > talk about XTC, and not to bost about what version of AV I got or how > many copies of TB I bought. I mainly came to talk about the band, and ...and they're certainly not trying to boast. The discussions on this list can't always be to your liking, you know. When I read the other musical newsgroups and mailing lists I subscribe to, I don't wish the members would stop talking about the multitudes of expensive bootlegs that they have that I can't afford. You came to talk about the band? So did everyone else; and the various formats of their new album is certainly on-topic in my opinion. > how I appreciate it. But this is my own opinion, and I like you guys > have every right to voice it. I don't think anyone's denying your right to voice your opinion, but how can you at the same time tell us to stop voicing ours? How can you say in one part of your post that we have every right to voice our opinions, and then in another say we shouldn't talk about a particular subject that you don't like? I guess it would make sense if we (or, rather, they, since I haven't posted to this thread up until now) were doing it just to boast, but that's simply not the case. BDL
------------------------------ From: "Jim McGowan" <jmcgowan@cms.dbc.com> Subject: Of Rush and Radio Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:17:36 -0800 Message-ID: <000c01be3ff2$8b8d95a0$df0bd9c7@jmcgowan.dbc.com> First, I'd like to apologize to all politically sensitive Chalkhills readers who can't tolerate playful swipes at pompous charlatans like Rush... Uh, wait! Let's try that again: I'm sorry! I too listen to Rush occasionally, if only for the cool bumper music... Now for the Obligatory XTC Content: WillJ4comm@aol.com wrote in Chalkhills 5-58: > Attention TVT, be sure to send a promo copy of Apple Venus to > KCRW radio in Santa Monica, California if you haven't already. Hear, Hear! And also send a copy to 103.1 FM (no call letters yet), a new station here in L.A. that's showing real promise. I've already heard Dear Madame Barnum, Peter Pumpkinhead, Generals & Majors and (of course) Dear God in the few weeks they've been on the air. James McGowan jmcgowan@cms.dbc.com Capital Management Sciences Los Angeles, CA
------------------------------ From: Catinosboy@aol.com Message-ID: <4b4a9bbc.369e465d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:32:45 EST Subject: Skylarking Gold Ultradisc Just purchased the Gold Ultradisc of Skylarking, thinking I would get some sound improvement, and the damn album sounds as shitty as Geffen's! And I understand that these CD's are only as good as the master tapes were, but the album HAD to sound better than this. Is anyone who has this version as disappointed as I am? If you have answers, PLEASE e-mail me. Brent Jones
------------------------------ Message-ID: <204640794C39D211A21700805FA735211AA164@ahqex1.rei.com> From: Steve Sims <ssims@rei.com> Subject: Any volunteers Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:42:35 -0800 Yes Virginia, there are stupid questions. And this is one of them. On the version of "Battery Brides" recorded at the Hammersmith Palais: the guitars are very nicely separated by channel, left and right. Who is playing on which channel? I assume it's Dave on the Les Paul on the left... -Steve
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990114204223.28974.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:42:23 -0800 (PST) From: nross <phoenixyellowrose@rocketmail.com> Subject: The tyranny of the stupid... Molly, Molly, what you post I do enjoy you the most The many opinions you utter Make so many people mutter But, really, must you write this stuff Of opinions that for you, seem rough And claim to all "opinions we rightly own" Yet scream when others' opinions roam - from your own. uh... okay I'm not a poet... But, really Molly: > I hate people like you who say things like that< Is such hate necessary in this forum, "can't we all just get along". > I joined this list to talk about XTC< It seems to me you joined this list to pass out your email address, and to advertise your radio show. >and not to boast about what version of AV I got...< Who was boasting, Molly? I think the poster was trying to explain to you the value or the enjoyment one can get from owning the Japanese version, with the extra tracks. Molly, I am NOT going to buy the US version. I don't want to spend $30 either. If others want to buy the Japanese version... great! Let them... its probably worth it. Why say more? Why not accept the constructive criticism? You've left yourself open to the comments of people who have, in the past, bit their lips in an attempt not to berate (spelling?) you. I think you are a very very interesting member of this list... Try not to get huffy at comments... just have fun with them. Remember... you are fairly annonymous. In the end, it shouldn't matter what people feel about your opinions. AT THE SAME TIME, REMEMBER OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THEIR VERY OWN OPINIONS AND THEY WILL EXPRESS THEM. -a fellow poster, Nicole
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Message-Id: <199901142212.XAA07358@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:20:55 +0000
Subject: Re: This World Over
Dear Chalkers,
Lady Cornelia, High Priestess of the Church of Dave said:
> Talked to Dave again a few nights ago, and he said that yes
> indeed, the Transistor Blast version of This World Over is the
> same one from The Big Express.
WOW! I think we better keep this to ourselves a bit... if Virgin
finds out they'll sue our Heroes to hell !
yours in xtc,
Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
or http://come.to/xtc
------------------------------ Message-ID: <369E6529.1453A4BB@intermetrics.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:44:10 -0400 From: Harrison Sherwood <sherwood@intermetrics.com> Organization: Intermetrics, Inc. Subject: The Duncans Bracket My Racket > From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: Issues from the tissues > Well Ken, I think you're on the right track, but I would suggest that in > terms of Andy's "stage fright", today's secret word is "Valium". If I > recall correctly from my reading of Chalkhills, the onset of Andy's > panic attacks/stagefright/whatever 'coincided' almost exactly with the > suddenly cesssation of his years-long use of tranqillisers, prescribed > to him during his teens, at the time of his parents' breakup. Amazingly, > it seems it never occurred to him, or anyone else that he should stop > taking them ... until ... you guessed it ... 1982! A masterful diagnosis, Dr. Kimball, lovingly stitched together from bolts of the finest broadcloth. Unfortunately, there is a single loose thread that, when tugged vigorously, causes the entire suit to unravel, leaving the wearer clad in one of those barrel-and-suspenders outfits so beloved of bad cartoonists the world over. The trouble is the simple fact that Partridge's Valium use stopped in 1980, not '82. "Chalkhills and Children" (p. 106) says "when the [1980 XTC tour] was in LA Marianne decided to flush his tablets down the toilet." Conspicuously absent from Twomey's rather perfunctory paragraph on the topic is any explanation of Marianne's *motive* for throwing away the pills: why that particular day and not some other? Was this some petulant act on her part--or was the drug coming between them in ways we can't know about? (The day, BTW, must have been either February 21, 22, or 23 of 1980, which is when the XTC Tour Dates page says they were in Los Angeles that year--see http://reality.sgi.com/chalkhills/live.html. Marianne flushed Andy's pills at a particularly high point in XTC's history--it was on those three days that, according to Twomey, they broke the house record for attendance at the Whiskey-A-Go-Go.) The end of the Valium addiction happened only about halfway through the band's touring history. They continued to tour incessantly for a full two years after that--go to the page cited above, skim the list of dates, and imagine the toll on the body and mind that such a grueling schedule would take--particularly on a person who was becoming acutely aware of the monumental monetary screwing he was getting from his management, and, one suspects, of the howling emptiness of the road life. What's particularly interesting about the Valium addiction is how it started: The elder Partridges' marriage "collapsed" in 1966 (not permanently) owing to John's infidelity, and Vera became violent and erratic and had a "nervous breakdown" of her own. Andy, twelve years old, understandably became "nervous and excitable" and increasingly in trouble at school. After he began the course of "treatment" (which in today's Prozac- and Ritalin-fueled culture seems more like a horrible "chemical lobotomy" than an honest attempt to redress a young boy's anxieties) his interest in academics disappeared altogether and he began to fail at everything except art, where he continued to excel. It is also at this point that, according to Twomey, Andy actually began to pursue, rather than simply daydream about, music. (See "Chalkhills and Children," pp. 15-16.) I'm not at all surprised that Andy resisted giving up Valium for 13 years. He probably perceived it as an old friend, a reliable barrier between him and madness, a lifesaving magic spell that helped him through the horror of his mother's breakdown and served as a crutch while he himself fought the natural fears of his transformation to manhood. It wouldn't be outside all likelihood that he regarded the drug as an aid to creativity rather than a barrier--much the way pot smokers insist so irrationally that reefer makes them more creative. (We hear of fairly heroic drinking going on during the touring years and before, and you have to wonder how the mixture of booze and Valium affected things. If medical propaganda is to be believed, we're lucky to still have him with us today.) I won't deny that ceasing Valium use may have contributed to a long depression that culminated in the "stage-fright" episodes. But ask yourself this: Do you think Andy would have refused to perform on stage if he _hadn't_ given up Valium two years before? ------- Fredo: I will go to my grave insisting that Django Reinhardt was the greatest guitarist who ever lived. And like DavidOh, he did it with many fewer fingers than he was born with. Say, Mr. Bass-Playing Francophone Person, maybe you can enlighten us: What does "Gribouillage" mean? ------- Marie, the smart money sez if you did a little investigating, you'd find TAFKA DavidOh is equipped with the full regulation set in the digits department. Juuuuust a hunch, there. Check his post in #5-29 for a hint. ------- They're saying over in rec.audio.pro that if you take a green magic marker and color around the outside edge of an audio CD, it'll make the multi-bit converters in the MASH system oversample all the way up 11.3MHz while comb-filtering the image spectrum from 24kHz to 64kHz and flanging the pulse width at the output of the DSP. What this does is, it removes all that fascistic digital coldness and brittleness, and restores to the music exactly the magical syrupy _gemuetlich_ rosy-glow quaaludes-and-Colt-45 delicious orgasmic lovesexy hot-chocolate-and-marshmallows Lantz-flannel-nightie lower-midrange *warmth* found between 225 and 229 Hz--the very frequencies that were ordered removed by the Blue-Ribbon International Audiophonic Morality Task Force back during the first Reagan Administration. You remember, Ed Meese and the Heritage Foundation and Sony and them? God, they *hated* vinyl--blamed all the excesses of the Sixties on "the evils of Communistic Vinyl Warmth." J. Edgar Hoover was way ahead of his time on this one--betcha didn't know the development of digital audio was _bankrolled_ by the FBI. I mean, remember what the oil shortages of the Seventies did to the price of records? Can you say *Clampdown*? QED, Mr. Limbaugh! As an added bonus, that green-pen trick restores all those vital scratches and pops and hisses and skips and jumps that contribute so much joy to the vinyl experience. And best of all, when your stoned-as-shit cretin roommate gloms his stupid drunken sweaty fingers all over the surface of your green-penned CD copy of Uriah Heep's "Demons & Wizards," it ruins it just as fast as if it were a vinyl LP, circa 1973. Nirvana, man. The green-pen trick on a CD-ROM (not an audio CD) will make Tomb Raider play up to 13 times faster--and I'm not even gonna talk about what it does to Lara Croft's superstructure--hubba hubba! This has been proven in laboratory tests, so don't give me a bunch of shit about it. The only valid way to listen to music is on a Close-n-Play. A 1969 *Barbie* Close-n-Play. *That's* warm. Now shut up. ------- Hey Duncan Watt: Does the Devil sing consistently a quarter-tone flat? Harrison "Summoned by drum rolling surf/As laughing fish compel/Hey!/The young boy woken in me/By clanging diving bell/JACK!" Sherwood
------------------------------ Message-ID: <003301be4036$4c65bc60$7b5791d2@johnboud> From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp> Subject: Japanese LE of AV Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:21:43 +0900 Just got a fax from my guys in Tokyo re: APPLE VENUS . They faxed a copy of promo poster with Happy New Year Message : " From XTC to all our friends in Japan . We hope you have a really happy New Year and that you buy our new album APPLE VENUS which is released in 99 " . Running order of AV is : 1) River Of Orchids 2) I'd Like That 3) Easter Theatre 4) Frivolous Tonight 5) Greenman 6) Knights In Shining Kharma 7) Your Dictionary 8) Fruit Nut 9 ) I Can't Own Her 10) Harvest Festival 11) Last Balloon ***** PLUS BONUS TRACKS ! Today is a national holiday so cannot contact Pony Canyon Records for more info on bonus tracks and tomorrow is Saturday so will phone them on Monday . Have a great weekend , John In Japan .
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199901150453.UAA07738@mail.rapidnet.net> From: "J & J Greaves" <jgreaves@rapidnet.net> Subject: Raygun Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:44:59 -0800 Is there anyone out there (with the time and desire) that would mind typing out the Raygun article, so those of us who can't find the magazine can get a chance to read it? ( anyone but David Oh that is! ) : ) many thanks to anyone who might want to do this John
------------------------------ From: gregoryw@hello.net.au Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:09:13 GMT Message-Id: <199901151409.OAA27836@mail.hello.net.au> Subject: Re: Dave's Departure Dear All, Can't say that I agree with previous postings (ie # 5/55) regarding Dave's departure. Having heard the demos, knowing that AV1 will be a quantum change from the normal guitar/keyboard/drum/bass format, and given that Dave's unfortunate exit was based, in part, on his perceived lack of contribution towards the current project, AV1 *will* sound different. How could it be otherwise? Andy P. and Colin M. still form the songwriting foundation for xTc, upon which Dave provided textures unique to his musical vision, as did TC and BA when they were members of the group. I await AV1 with unbridled impatience. In Oz, we will probably see it sometime in the next millenium, via slow boat from China. Examples of splits to support above? Hey, this could be fun. Lets see: Genesis w/o Peter Gabriel, then w/o Mike Rutherford, then w/o oh who cares! Wall of Voodoo w/o Stan Ridgway; Faces w/o Rod Stewart; Abbott w/o Costello; Bulls w/o Michael Jordan. Life goes on. gRegoRy "Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny" - FZ (Roxy & Elsewhere,1974)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <000601be4061$1816b7e0$635108c3@w8k1p3> From: "Dave Hall" <goldwing@clara.net> Subject: DG is crap !! Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:58:35 -0000 He's not really but I was lost for a subject, I'm moved to add my tuppence worth to the DG leaves XTC vein, Dave is an accomplished guitarist who has produced some excellent moving pieces but at the end of the day it's all phrases and riffs he's borrowed from others (which he often reproduces in a better form than the originals). Andy Partridge is an innovative genius who will continue to produce the music that is just out of phase with the rest of the music industry and that I admire so much. I was sad to see DG leave but I don't think it will dramatically alter Andy's music. ps I love TB, I never really liked `Life begins at the hop` until I heard the BBC version. Dave Hall
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s69f220f.037@parliament.uk> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:08:47 +0000 From: Dominic Lawson <LAWSOND@parliament.uk> Subject: Re: David Oh For ****'s Sake >>>it seemz 2 me that I've gotten up a few people'z nozes with my posts No, not really. In fact, many of us find you mildly amusing, but not for the reasons you obviously expect. >>>it also seemz 2 me that sum r only concerned with style & not content No, not really. Furthermore, I doubt if anyone really cares what you think since you apparently "don't give a fuck" that people find your pretentious "style" both unoriginal and hugely tedious. You're not annoying - just dull. Yes, certain words can be replaced with numbers or other symbols. Get used to it. Pretending that you always type like that is pathetic. It must take far longer and the effort is entirely wasted. Tw@. >>>yeah, stop picking on me or I'll hafta tell me mum No, stop it, I might shit myself. >>>i couldn'ta summed it up any better You surprise me. * ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyway, sorry to everyone else on David's behalf. I realise it's not my place to say it, but he's obviously far too far up his own sphincter (which might account for his inability to see the keyboard properly) to admit when he's out of his depth. >>>This is the best XTC album since Drums & Wires Oh Ozzy, yes! Let it be true! Don't get me wrong - I love all the albums (and the rest of the stuff too now - THANKS DON!!!!) but D&W has always been something of a favourite. I suppose it's a bit daft to compare it with, say, Nonsuch, but in terms of how often I play each album, D&W comes top every time, by a considerable distance. If Apple Venus is as arse-wideningly glorious as I suspect it will be (and personally I'm itching really bad for Vol.2 as you would expect) then this is going to be a fucking great year. Finally, I just want to insert my own unique oar into an age-old debate. I realise that many of us are occasionally guilty of straying from the subject of XTC. OK, this is a bit unfortunate since the digest is supposed to be solely about the band, or at least to related topics, but I have to say that without the occasional foray into irrelevance, Chalkhills could easily descend to the uninspiring levels which ruin so many other similar forums (or should that be fora?). For instance, since we've been getting REM-ed up of late, I checked out an REM discussion page recently and was amused to see a very strict code of conduct that completely forbade any off-topic discussion and, more worryingly, any debates on subjects like "I prefer Reckoning to Murmur" or "Up sucks" or whatever. The debate itself was dull as pish and everyone seemed scared to say anything remotely controversial. I would have lasted about ten seconds. Call me old Mr Bellicose, but surely these kind of topics are the bread and butter of our discussions? I see very little point in banning any kind of debate, as long as it originates in the realms of XTC. If it strays elsewhere then so what? As human beings we find it hard to stick rigidly to a subject. I've made a few good pals from Chalkhills, in a relatively brief amount of time, and I doubt this would have happened were we restricted to probing analyses of chord changes and deconstructions of the lyrics to "Human Alchemy". Sometimes we just need an outlet for our thoughts, and although this might not apply to some of you, most of us have enough room in our brains to cope with more than just XTC. Or Black Sabbath. Mind you, when Apple Venus comes out, everything will change, you mark my words! I'll need some new pants, for a start... Dom.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990115134129.25494.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Bill Davups" <schtorposk@hotmail.com> Subject: MP3 Demos Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:41:29 PST http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pavilion/9209 This week: "Harvest Festival"
------------------------------ Message-ID: <369F39B2.5A54@bhip.infi.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:51:05 -0400 From: Brian <mattone@bhip.infi.net> Subject: Re: Just about all I can take...! Tschalkgerz! I've been lurking, and now I de-lurk: DavidOh defends himself here with a rather poorly thought-through premise: content over style. That's cool, I can dig it, but wouldn't have known unless someone told me, 'cause I sure as heck stop reading after I hit that first 'z' in the wrong place, so I missed the brilliance. And this is the problem, David: why be so fab and cool to a bunch of online nondescripts that you'll likely never come face-to-face with in the ONLY method you have of communicating with us? Your posts are very difficult to read, period. If you want us to dig you and your content, deliver it in a way that more closely follows the rules of normal written English. Please? -- BRIAN THOMAS MATTHEWS * Digital & traditional illustration/animation * Caricaturist-for-hire * RENDERMAN ~ One-Man Band Ordinaire SAPRINGER CENTRAL ~ http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer mailto:mattone@bhip.infi.net
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Message-Id: <4.1.19990115082019.00930290@pop-2.iastate.edu>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:36:15 -0600
From: John A Lane <jal@iastate.edu>
Subject: And Annudah Ripping Yarn
Chalkapaloozas:
In the spirit of the New Year, shedding the last vestiges of self-indulgence
on the internet, I'd thought I'd share my Top 5 list (don't want to be a
glutton) and then proceed with XTC content below.
Ze List
1. Nairobi Balkan Trio - "Haus Haus" - a German band whose music can best be
described as a cross between Brian Wilson, Emo Phillips, and Ethel Merman,
with a dash of Misfits thrown in. Critics have called them the heirs to The
Residents. The recurring use of doggy-squeak toys will reveal all.
2. The Biles - "Yesterday's Headlines Today" - alternating between
psychedelic & mosh rock. The first time I heard them, I thought of The
Beastie Boys. The second time I heard them, I thought of Donovan. I'd be
interested in knowing what *you* hear in them!
3. Buddy Clayton - "The Yellow Cab Years 1945-1973" - known in suburban
Chicago blues circles as 'The White Howlin' Wolf', this war vet came home &
left his love of polka aside & picked up an out-of-tune 12 string to comfort
him. This box set comes with extensive liner notes in a 40-page booklet.
Woody Guthrie once said of him, "If there was no me, there'd be him. Wish it
were true, 'cause he deserves it more than me."
4. The Hoppers - "From Here To Winesburg, Ohio" - yet another band that'll
probably take a lot of criticism for its influences, but if you can look
beyond the obvious aduration of Ringo (pre-White Album), Mancini, and Queen,
then you'll learn to love it just as much as I do.
AND now for the XTC content:
* Just got off the phone with Colin, and while he was reluctant to send me
an advance copy of AV ("I already gave me last to an American fan who popped
'round. Said he was from Sheepshead Bay!"), he said he would airmail me a
small packet of old, chipped guitarpicks! Am I in heaven or what!
Waiting by the mailbox,
John
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~jal/doublebrian.html
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------------------------------ Message-Id: <199901151454.GAA05385@f30.hotmail.com> From: "Amanda Owens" <daveizgod@hotmail.com> Subject: Oh deary me. Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 06:54:43 PST No bruhaha today, just flat out responses! (Sorta, my hotmail's not working right, so I can't post full responses w/what I'm responding to.) Well Dave, don't flatter yourself. ;) Duncan-Boasting schmoasting. I wish there was a way you could all get calls or what have you, but could you imagine what phone bills would look like? I feel guilty when Dave calls me b/c I have to think of all the money getting spent on his part! Whoever asked me for more detail-Truth is, Dave and I talk about such incredibly banal stuff. We really don't talk about XTC too much, and it's hard for me to keep track of what we do talk about b/c we swtich topics so much during the course of coversations. But he did ask me for a jambalaya recipe during our last conversation. In fact, we talked about food during the whole thing. Tis all for now, Amanda C. Owens "People will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with welcome written on it."-Andy Partridge XTC song of the day-Omnibus non XTC song-True Faith-New Order
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199901150957.JAA037.77@GATEWAY.TIRERACK.COM> Subject: Re: Stadium Dogs Date: Fri, 15 Jan 99 09:58:02 -0600 From: William Loring <bloring@tirerack.com> Dom posted: >He mentioned that his dad used to play in a band with someone from XTC - >Stadium Dogs or something similar - and that he was pals with most of the >band. Wasn't Barry's first post-XTC band called "Restaurant for Dogs" or somthing like that? I'm at work, so I don't have my old 7" singles from that era handy... Regards, William (Andy) Loring bloring@tirerack.com The Tire Rack http://www.tirerack.com
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990115150443.17428.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:04:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Rosenberger <wile1coyote@yahoo.com> Subject: Some Responses: 56,57,58 & 59 Some responses: Sorry about the number but for some reason I got three posts at one time and a fourth less than 8 hours later. I think my mail server is having problems again. I tried to be brief. Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 56 The disappointed / Are growing every second. Well quoted John! *_____________________________________________________________________ Per wrote: Do you think that vinyllovers live in the past? I agree with Per and several others here. Vinyl is still the best media for pure sonic clarity. However I do like the convenience of CDs and the ability to play them in my car. Never could get that turntable to stop skipping!! ;) To Summarise: To each his own. *_______________________________________________________________________ Jon Rosenberger Subject: I just don't get it? Having reread my post and some other responses to Molly's original post, I realised that at the very least mine lacked tact and at it 's worst it was pretty aggressive and thoughtless. I am not changing my position but I don't like the way I said it. I apologize Molly, I seem to have forgotten the days when I didn't have enough money to cover the things I needed let alone the things I wanted. Thankfully that is no longer the case, and I hope you have that good fortune in your future as well. If the Japan release does indeed have additional tracks, you can be assured that you will find a copy in your mailbox from me. *_______________________________________________________________ Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 57 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:20:15 -0500 From: Cooking Vinyl <Cooking_Vinyl@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Transistor Blast Message-ID: <199901120620_MC2-6656-964@compuserve.com> Yo Cooking Vinyl! Since you are obviously monitoring this List maybe you could come up with some kind of a cool Chalkhills only XTC offer for the fans here. We really are the biggest supporters of this band. A chalkhills only Special Numbered Limited Edition Vinyl version of AV1? Or a cool print or poster? Mouse pads? Key Chains? XTC Rubber ducks? Something? Anything! (Obligatory Joke coming) We could take a hint from Dom's area perhaps and have the band mix their blood into the ink for the LP jackets. That was Kiss right Dom? Just a thought. *___________________________________________________________ Rob. wrote: What happened to all the talk about how we can help the band? Pathetic! Is it pathetic to buy all of the releases of a product? I think I have probably put more bread on the lads plates than the average guy on the street and if that is pathetic. Then yep, that is what I am. Card carrying pathetic. *______________________________________________________________________ Duncan Kimball wrote: I suggest that Knopfler be killed and his skin be tanned and used to line Buddy Guy's guitar case. Wow! You must have a deeply hidden fetish for Mark Knopfler. Actually I think your attack is a little groundless as Mark is one of the better guitarists to emerge from the 70's/80's rock era. I find his music to be neither boring or insipid simply pleasant and average. Actually I consider "Alchemy" to be one of the finest live performances ever recorded, if you are interested in keeping an open mind about music you might want to try to find a copy. Oh and by the way this has nothing to do with XTC. I did like the insight on the Valium withdrawl symptoms though. That is a piece I had never connected in my readings on XTC and I think it is a very plausable theory. *____________________________________________________________________ Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 58 Karl Ovre wrote: Many people have been woried about Apple vol 2 without dave. Andy p. said some time ago that Dave did get to lay down a good deal of guitar tracks on those songs before he left, so there's no reason to worry until the album after that. This is the second time that I have asked this. I thought most of Dave's pre-departure contributions were to songs on AV1. How much work was actually done for tunes on AV2 by Dave? Amanda or Mitch? Someone who really knows? I don't mean to doubt you Karl, I would just like a little reinforcement of your opinion. *_______________________________________________________________________ JD Mack wrote out a list of tunes to be included on XTC Anthology One. Great Job JD we need more of this kind of posting. I applaud your effort. *__________________________________________________________ Duncan Kimball wrote: In brief ... BOLLOCKS!! For a fuller exposition of the reasoning behined this view, please visit my argument page, such as it is, at : http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/5812/cd_lp.htm Very interesting reading. I disagree with some of it but it really is a good argument. Check it out if you haven't already. *____________________________________________________________________ Catherine Piazolla" <notangos@hotmail.com> Subject: The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists Wonderful Post Catherine. We could all learn a lot from this. Oh except you and you and of course you and that guy in the back there and..... Read it again and apply your own posts to it. I know I am guilty of some of this stuff. And in keeping with that new thought process: My email is an open door if anyone who reads this has any questions they want answered. I probably know someone offlist who knows the answer if I don't so if you are uncomfortable posting then please feel free to drop me a line. Wile1coyote@yahoo.com That includes anyone just wanting to chat too. Please? Anything to keep me from doing what I get paid to do. Which I am not doing right now, actually very successfully. *______________________________________________________________________ Steve Bristol Wrote: friend of mine called at Andy Partridges house and came away with an advance copy of Apple Venus. I envy you folks who can just stop by for a spot of tea. (green-eyed with jealousy) Congrats Steve *__________________________________________________________________ Mr. Stijbos wrote: So bloody beautiful it almost made me cry. I can picture it now. No one deserves this more than Mark. I would gladly wait another month for the LP if it meant Mark got to hear it before me. I am glad I didn't have to. Glad you got one Mark and now if they would just open the process up to the rest of us. *____________________________________________________________________ Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 59 From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com> Subject: Big audio dynamite breakthrough Obtuse and unfunny not to mention you are getting progressivly more off topic Duncan. *_____________________________________________________________________ Mr. Friedman wrote: p.s. he's already busy at work on the followup to Remoulds which is going to be a double album of progressive rock from '70-'72 to be called "21st Century Dinosaur Egg". That is great! Any idea of a release date. What label. Is Dave shopping for a record deal on his own? What is going on for Mr. Gregory? Between you and Amanda all I get are snippets and my interest is starting to boil? Somebody please come through with some more good news about him. *________________________________________________________________ From: Iain Murray <twentiethcenturyfrog@yahoo.com.au> Subject: The Very Model Of A Newsgroup Personality Now that's funny! Stings a bit too. Thanks Iain. Your own composition? This marks the end of my opinions. Thanks for reading them. I have one other question, I have seen a recent magazine interview with Andy referenced here twice recently in which he apparently has less than kind things to say about Dave. I am having trouble finding a copy of this, could someone please let me know where to find it. Thanks Again and I wish you all a pleasant day. Jon Rosenberger
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