Chalkhills Digest Volume 5, Issue 314
Date: Thursday, 18 November 1999
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 314
Thursday, 18 November 1999
Today's Topics:
food songs
Nihon shuffle
Know It Sounds Weird...
Re: Play One
the Straight Dope on wicca
Stuart Adamson Was A Big C*nt, Remember?
'Frost Circus' on PBS
Andy's tin ear
a few other tunes
Tina W.
Andy Must Have a Twin :)
Re: Power of Suggestion II
We Are Experiencing Hormonal Imbalance
Slept through Swindon ?
Unplugged
Machine Dom Etiquette
Jock's Trap
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <19991117040524.6757.rocketmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:05:24 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: food songs I love all the Thanksgiving song postings. Kevin Diamond, yours are my favorite so far! I do hope someone is going to take it upon themselves to compile them all... ---- re: carmen or Rachmaninov: I somehow feel better knowing that Partsy borrowed from Rachmaninov rather than Eric Carmen. Maybe "I don't Wanne Be Here' is Rachmaninov with a hard on...
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:59:16 +1100
From: Sebastien Maury 02 9950 3315 <maury.sebastien@a2.abc.net.au>
Subject: Nihon shuffle
Message-id: <E1713IET3GB5F*/R=A1/R=ABCNET/U=MAURYS6G/@MHS>
Damn, none of my evil schemes for snaffling a Japanese import of Homespun
have come to aught as yet...but I feel that while there's a CD out there
with Colin chatting about his stuff ( I already have the other two chats
on CD single...), then I must have it and hang the expense....but hang on
a minute, local CD shops are quoting me $70 ("well sir you know the dollar
is really weak at the moment compared with the yen" but Christ aren't they
supposed to be in recession or something) and to be brutally frank, that's
more than I'm prepared to pay. By quite a long shot.
Still all the positives about it have made me keep my operatives in the
field out and looking.
A quick question. I am by nature rather perverse and tend to appreciate
alternative takes on classic songs (hence my acceptance of Tall Tales and
True's cover of the Doors' Peace Frog and my chuckling delight in the
disturbing White Music version of All Along). I've played it for quite a
number of non-fans and most everyone seems to hate it. Anyone else have
any luck? (that was a quick question???) I'm rather partial to the
Transgender Flask version as well...
Dave Dobbyn. Now there's a name to conjure with (OK, OK Mr P Dant, "with
which to conjure"). I'm not sure I've ever seen his name mentioned between
these screens, at least not in the few years I've been reading. Dave
Dobbyn. There he is again! Incredible...and I was just talking about him!
In any case he's most (in) famous in some circles for a little ditty
called "Slice of Heaven" in 1987 (fer crissakes it's 12 years old. Give
the man a break) which was overplayed and not terribly interesting after
the 407th time. Still, he's one of NZ's treasures and had a superlative
album out last year called the Islander (a reference to his discovering
his roots). I was lucky enough to see him play 2 sets at a recent Womad
festival and he's a crack live performer too with a strong voice, fine
pianist and tasteful if unspectacular guitarist. The songs fall undeniably
on the pop side of the business but his distinctive voice and choice of
melody/harmony echo certain other elements of the music biz I like so much
(cue animal references-finn and partridge). I now own 3 albums and
recommend them (Lament for the Numb and Twist are the other 2) with most
of my heart (keeping something for myself for that blood pumping function
it seems to perform so well)
Duffy: can anyone explain why I like his solo stuff, his co-written stuff
(eg Stunt by BNL) but Lilac Time's 3 albums do very close to sweet FA for
me?? It's a true quandary which I'd like to remedy. Maybe I disfigured a
folk singer in a former existence or something.
Um, people are *surprised* that there exist people in the world (and on
this list too...shhh...don't tell anyone) who DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT
MOTOR RACING? Which is not to say the death of a person, whoever they may
be, is to be sneered at. But I can guarantee Dunks was not sneering
(knowing him as I do), it was a simple reaction to what he felt was an
irrelevance. And yes, there are many cross-pollinating links on this list
and not all of them are interesting. In fact some of them suck. There are
people reading -this- saying something along those lines. But I'm damned
if we're a)going to limit content b) refrain from pointing out when
someone's being as fascinating as an Ozu film (that one's for you
Dunks!). I mean I found the lists of (yawn) gear a tad dullish and keyed
down. Dunks probably should've done the same, but judging by the reaction
to gear posts...and more gear posts...and a couple more...given that this
does touch on music related issues-funnily enough-people are generally
more interested in it than say, fishing (god), God (jesus), cars or
baseball. Still go ahead and say what you will. I merely point out
probable interest here.
Gary Hooper: thanks for your stellar input into proceedings. Your wit is
matched only by your intelligence and capacity for irony. I look forward
to many more diatribes. Still I'd hate to limit conversation. But I happen
to like Dom's schtick. And if you don't well there's really not a lot you
can do about it.
Oh dear, this e-mail started out so pleasantly. I think the Fountains of
Wayne are making me feisty.
Seb.
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:17:23 -0800 (PST)
From: travis schulz <xtcisadarngoodband@yahoo.com>
Subject: Know It Sounds Weird...
What a bad dream I had about XTC. Andy was on the
Dinah Shore show, and when he was introduced, this
monterized version of Andy came out- some creature
wearing Andy's brown cap and coat. He got angry with
Dinah's questions, pulled out his eyeballs and threw
them at her. I never dreamt anything XTC until I read
other people's XTC dreams here- I think I regret
reading those now!
On a better topic.....1999 is almost
done, and I wouldn't mind seeing everybody's top ten
list of favorite albums of 1999. With the exception
of AV1 and Homespun, I didn't buy any new albums this
year! Old stuff from Elvis Costello, Martin Newell and
John Lee Hooker and etc. is the kind of record buying
year I had. Ben Folds and Jason Falkner had ones I
will get soon however. Robyn Hitchcock too. Later.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <l03130300b4584e229fe7@[208.13.202.114]> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:22:06 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net> Subject: Re: Play One >I have a play on in South London for one night only next Thursday 18th >and need ideas about which XTC track I should have playing as the >audience arrives and leaves. My director has said I can play one so who >am I to ignore that opportunity? >I just can't think what would be suitable. >Belinda I'd go with "Yacht Dance," for some reason, possibly because the music's so pretty and the lyrics are so poetic and inscrutable. Christopher R. Coolidge Homepage at http://homepages.together.net/~cauldron/homepage.html "A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has 10 GREAT laws. A Good law protects me from you. Laws against murder, theft, assault and the like are good laws. A Poor law attempts to protect me from myself." - Unknown
------------------------------ From: STakesh@aol.com Message-ID: <0.c338fb12.256404ed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:17:33 EST Subject: the Straight Dope on wicca Hi everyone, The Thanksgiving-themed mock lyrics are so cute, I'm already looking forward to a big batch of X-mas-and- Hanukkah-themed lyrics... Meanwhile, the inestimable Cecil Adams has served up the skinny on the wicca phenomenon: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/991029.html Orbiting elliptically around all things XTC, Steph
------------------------------ Message-ID: <4782AD6ADDBDD2119B570008C75DD5C12DBA27@mgmtm02.parliament.uk> From: Lawson Dominic <LawsonD@parliament.uk> Subject: Stuart Adamson Was A Big C*nt, Remember? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:31:57 -0000 ....and before that, he was in The Skids. >>writing imbued with personality, that strives to do more than simply present information--holds the inherent risk, when it fails, of appearing to be about the writer exlusively and not at all about the subject being written about. Dom and Harrison occasionally fall from that tightrope, as do we all, but that's a small price to pay for maintaining the health of this incredibly lively, erudite forum we allshare. Hear hear. I'm with you, you lovely man. Yes, I often talk a load of bollocks but unlike certain people I regularly take the piss out of myself, not just other people. It's the idea that somehow I (and this applies to Harrison and others as well) am trying to score points by being nasty, or by waving my ego in the air like a surrogate tadger, when in fact all I'm doing is writing stuff that I think is quite funny. Most of it is relevant, believe it or not, to this forum and the things we discuss and, as the man says, the occasional faux pas should not be a green light to the Seriousness Police to start pontificating about how we should all just love each other, man, and so on. There's enough dull-but-worthy bilge spouted on other chatlists.....somehow Chalkhills transcends all that, which is precisely why I read it and participate when, in truth, there are many bands that I like just as much as, if not more than, XTC. Honestly, check out a couple of Metal chatlists and you'll see what I mean! I need you people for my sanity!!!! >>since there is far too much phony niceness in the world and so it's kind of a relief to run across phony misanthropy once in a while. Exactly. Apart from the obvious fact that my more stroppy posts are obviously tongue-in-cheek - for a start, why would I want to piss you all off? - it needs restating that a lot of people actually enjoy a bit of gratuitous outrage and belligerence. Anyone who has ever laughed at Monty Python should see the value in that. Obviously I'm not that funny, and I wouldn't claim to be, but then judging by the reactions I get I'm clearly doing something right and some people are being entertained, in much the same way as Harrison's posts, although occasionally bewildering, are not designed to make anyone else feel stupid but are a genuine expression of his scary, twisted mind (he eats children you know.......) and therefore are far more believable and sincere than a lot of this "I dreamt about XTC last night" bollocks. Yes, I know the dreams are "real", before anyone pisses their pants, but as with my posts it makes sense to not take them too (or at all) seriously. Or something. Oh, and please leave Mr Hooper alone. I can fight my own battles - in fact, it's a hobby! - and off-list flaming is a bit lame (as I have discovered on numerous occasions.......that "delete" button is getting worn out!). Anyway, the nurses have upped his medication until he calms down.... >>This list has been funny, annoying, interesting, intelligent, idiotic, useless, and invaluable. It keeps us guessing, and that's why I'm still here. Exactly - well said. Quite why this has to be pointed out time and time again is anyone's guess, but if you find me or anyone else objectionable in some way, DON'T READ THE POSTS!!! SCROLL THE F*CK DOWN!!!!! I won't pretend that I'm not occasionally annoyed by some of the oh-so-worthy outbursts that appear on Chalkhills from time to time, but why get mad? Get even or get silly, that's my motto. Silly is best. >>I suppose it comes down to songs like "The Loving." While we may chose to hate things within our society, we're still supposed to try to love the people. It pains me to admit it, but I agree with William on this one. Of course sport doesn't suck and, of course, greedy people do. But in a broader sense this "loving" thing is relevant to Chalkhills in general...it should be taken as read that we all love XTC and are therefore a "community" of sorts, however keen you might be to stove my head in with a rusty spanner, and so it should also be assumed that despite our many differences, no one on the list is trying to make anyone else miserable or spoil anyone else's fun. It's incredibly arrogant to assume that I'm an arsehole just because I'm not scared to be a bit over-the-top and hyperbolous in my defence of certain things. Nor is it reasonable to berate me (or anyone else) for swearing or being disparaging about someone else's taste in music (or whatever).......fight back, by all means, but don't fall into the trap of taking yourself too seriously because I don't, Harrison doesn't, "Barking" Bob Crain doesn't, Ms Heller doesn't and nor, I suspect, do Andy or Colin (although they'd clearly be scared shitless by the level of devotion on display....I bet they don't have discussions about alternate track listings on import CDs when they're down the Kebab & Calculator of an evening!!!). >>And I don't mean to make light of your discomfort at the word "cunt," but you should bear in mind that the word is less of a taboo in British slang than in American I, on the other hand, do mean to make light of your discomfort at the word "cunt". It's a word. Get over it. You ****. He's right though, it's a perfectly normal term of abuse, particularly (I suspect) among "young males" (whatever that means) in the UK. Why, only last night Lodger No.1 called me a cunt for using all the hot water. He was right, it was a cunty thing to do. But I'm the landlord, so tough shit buddy. Incidentally, I'm writing some sleevenotes for an Earache Records triple-CD compilation thing (called "Immortalised"), due for release early next year and I've managed to get a mention for XTC in there! Coolio. Basically one of Earache's bands, Misery Loves Co. (a Swedish Industrial/Metal type thing), covered "Complicated Game" on their second album, so I have used this fact as an example of the record label's open-minded attitude, and the broad musical church they preside over. Obviously the real reason is that I wanted to plug the band (and you never know, there might be a couple of Morbid Angel fans who suddenly find themselves in need of a quality pop fix!), albeit in a very minor way. Just thought I'd mention it! I hereby predict a victory for England at Wembley tonight. COME ON ENGERLAND!!!!!!! Cheers, Dom "You always were a headache and you always were a bore" Lawson.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <70C9C5C2CA53D111BD3B006097CF27812E3AE7@boston.onlc.com> From: Eric Brittingham <EricB@onlc.com> Subject: 'Frost Circus' on PBS Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:45:51 -0500 I thought I would pass along this little tidbit. (Hey, Brit-speakers! Is this what you guys call 'trainspotting'?) I was watching a special on PBS (the US public broadcasting system) called New York: A Documentary Film. They used Frost Circus as the background music for a scene where images of late-ninetenth century NYC architecture were shown while a poem by Walt Whitman was read in a voice-over. I thought, that's a pretty obscure little piece of incidental music. I wondered how the music editor of the film came into contact with the song. Anyway, just thought if anybody would care, it would be some the folks on this list.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s832acf6.029@OAG.STATE.TX.US> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:26:03 -0600 From: "Steve Oleson" <Steve.Oleson@OAG.STATE.TX.US> Subject: Andy's tin ear Yellow, all! In C-hills 5-311, Dan "Col Bunt" Wiencek said (regarding Andy's belief that Greenman sounds more Celtic than Eastern) <snip> "I wouldn't berate myself for "misunderstanding" Andy; artists aren't always right about their own work, and just because Greenman reminded Andy of pagan rites (snip) doesn't mean that's where the song actually comes from, formally speaking." Sounds like HERESY, but I have to agree with Dan. I was surprised, while reading Song Stories, to hear Andy describe Funk Pop a Roll as "...very Tamla/Motown." It doesnt sound a thing like that to me! Thank god for confusion! These are excellent examples that illustrate how beneficial the cross-pollination of American and British music has been. The Beatles, and Cream, heard Muddy Waters, and Little Richard, and emulated them, creating: She's a Woman, and Sunshine of your Love. Americans heard these (and many others) and created: "You're gonna Miss Me (13th fl Elevators), and Purple Haze (Hendrix) , and on and on and on... to this day. XTC, of course have used the Beatles, Beach Boys et al for inspiration, and they in turn, have been a wonderful inspiration to bands on both shores. With so many benefits to Anglo/American cultural cross-pollination, it seems that a few ruffled feathers from the use of the word cunt, seems a small price to pay! ;-) Steve "Hands Across the Water" Oleson Austin, TX
------------------------------ From: WillJ4comm@aol.com Message-ID: <0.554a8635.25646397@aol.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:01:27 EST Subject: a few other tunes While waiting for AV2, I've been sampling a few other discs, my favorite I'll mention here: Blur, 13 - I actually got this album a few months ago and dismissed it out of hand because it was so seemingly tuneless and unfocused. In fact, however, upon listening to the entire album, it's actually a very interesting work, and quite cohesive in a very unusual way. Plus "Coffee and TV" is a fabulous and cool single, one of my favorite of the year. Sting, Brand New Day - The album is spotty, but for me the price is worth it just for the title track, one of my favorites of the year. It also has about four other tracks that almost come as close in my opinion. Richard Warner, Spirit of the Tao Te Ching - Quiet, New Age music, great for work, mellow and quiet activity. Have a great one, Will
------------------------------ From: Melsta@aol.com Message-ID: <0.6667f6e.25647759@aol.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:25:45 EST Subject: Tina W. Okay, I'm behind again. But I couldn't let this pass without comment: > From: Brown <mb2@deltanet.com> > > and speaking of The Talking Heads.. to the coquettish Melissa 'who looks > like Tina Weymouth', I say la-tee-da, young missy! People are always > telling ME I look like Margaret Thatcher..but you don't hear ME bragging > about it...SHEESH... I think you'll find I actually said people USED TO tell me I looked like Tina Weymouth. That was, like, 15 years ago. The only current comparison I can come up with is to the cardigan queen Pauline Fowler of Eastenders. My only consolation is that my light blond hair is still _naturally_ Pauline's color. Okay, so that was bragging, but what're ya gonna do? It's all I have to brag about. That and my exquisite taste in music. How bout that XTC? --Melissa "Ground floor: perfumery, stationery and leather goods" Reaves
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19991117234036.19681.rocketmail@web1306.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:40:36 -0800 (PST) From: Molly Fanton <mfanton99@yahoo.com> Subject: Andy Must Have a Twin :) Andy must have a twin living here in Buffalo, because I sat next to him on the bus today. I got on the bus to take me to my job training course, and I had to do a double take, because the guy next to me looked exactly like Andy. After I got off the bus, I started to laugh. That would be really weird for him to take the Buffalo Metro. If that was really Andy I would have stayed on the bus and talked to him, or maybe I would have fainted. :) Molly Fave XTC Song Right Now: "Harvest Festival" ===== Check Out My Craig Ferguson Tribute Page: http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/mrwick.html Molly's Page http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/index.html
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19991118004359.0070b5f4@mail.interlog.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:43:59 -0500 From: David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com> Subject: Re: Power of Suggestion II >From: unna@worldmailer.com >David Oh asked "are you suggesting that we've made up our dreams about xtc >just for the fun of it? >No, I wasn't suggesting any such thing. And, I didn't make up my dream to >entertain anyone either. I think the problem is when I said that I went home and >"made" a dream, instead of the standard "had" a dream... ...Anyway, I wasn't >trying to belittle anyone's dream, and I'm fairly shocked that an innocent dream >about all of us swimming like seals in the ocean by the cliffs wearing matching >clothes would actually offend anyone. * -------------------------------------------------------- i wasn't offended, but, to me, the way you worded it, sounded like you were mocking those of us who had dreams. yes, the problem was when you used "made" instead of "had". i now understand what you were trying to say. please accept my apology for my misinterpretation of your miscommunication. it just shows-to-go-you, it's all in the power of (mis)communication. peace & xtc, davidoh
------------------------------ Message-ID: <383384B8.1EDF@gte.net> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:47:25 -0700 From: "May O'Mahoney" <may5272@gte.net> Subject: We Are Experiencing Hormonal Imbalance OOOOOHH! I LIKE this Chalkhillian display of PMS - It's kind of like in "Fight Club" when Brad and Ed walk away satisfied from beating the shit out of eachother. HAVE NO FEAR CHALKIES - A good devilish (bloodless, thank God) debate, argument, pissing contest is JUST what we need sometimes! Come on! Who's going to throw the next punch!?! Haaaarrrriiisssooonn! Stop playing with the pups and come on into the ring! Brian Whitman wrote: (RE: Andy's Remarks on electronic music.) "This from the guy who made "Procession Towards Learning Land"? Humph, I'm insulted." I wouldn't be too insulted by this statement because, in reality, regardless of whether you like and/or create electronic music - it really isn't the same as collaborating with other musicicans on live instruments. Example: One night my drummer boyfriend, his guitarist and I got to drinking and hours later switched on a Roland 505 AKA the Groove Box and starting running pre-programs and tweaking them. Let's just say that we all looked like @%@%'in geniuses - randomly punching buttons to create "lush" walls of sound. (A sober bystander, by the way, said it sounded 'rad' - whether he was pulling our leg or not remains a mystery -as does much of that night.) And if you're wondering, I LIKE a lot of ambient and techno music. One of the greatest celebrations of electronic music I've seen this year was the documentary "Modulations". Good stuff. Ciao Babes. -May You're all C(bleeep)nts and Sl(bleeep)ty, C(Bleep)cksucking M(bleeep)therf(bleep)ckers!
------------------------------ Message-ID: <005d01bf319d$6e880e20$6b5791d2@p13s574p> From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp> Subject: Slept through Swindon ? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:13:19 +0900 In his post about a recent trip to England , Herne wrote : >Finally...Swindon. To be honest...I slept through it. Now , how can any self-respecting XTC fan go all the to England , and actually pass through Swindon without stopping for a look ' round ? I ask you ! John in Sushiland
------------------------------ From: Dave.Wilson@bhint.com Message-ID: <8025682D.00337C16.00@noteshub1.bhint.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:19:00 +0000 Subject: Unplugged I submitted a question to your veritable electronic organ some weeks back, and to date there has been no reply. If I can't get an answer here, I'm unlikely to elsewhere. For those who did not see it first time. . . I saw the Mojo article about XTC earlier in the year, and it appeared to have a photograph of XTC on an Unplugged stage. Have they ever appeared on Unplugged? If so, what did they play, and - moreover - can I get hold of a bootleg copy? Yours in torment Dave Wilson Nottingham, England
------------------------------ Message-ID: <4782AD6ADDBDD2119B570008C75DD5C12DBA48@mgmtm02.parliament.uk> From: Lawson Dominic <LawsonD@parliament.uk> Subject: Machine Dom Etiquette Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:24:49 -0000 >>I have had some good communication with Wes, other than that, every one either ignored my posts or sends the same old harassing emails that I have been trying to ignore. There there...mummy kiss it better. Honestly, I wouldn't take it personally! A large proportion of what appears on Chalkhills is "ignored" and no one has a divine right to be the centre of attention. Sometimes you have to earn people's interest by contributing something intriguing, funny or (in my case) stupid, rather than the somewhat banal posts you've sent in so far (no offence!). Also, since you appeared with both guns blazing we've been expecting something incendiary and controversial from you. Instead we get "ooh, anyone got any demos?" type stuff, which might raise a few responses in more barren times but thankfully the list is looking a little perkier at the moment. As for your request for demos & stuff - I'm sure there are numerous people here who would be willing to oblige, but don't be so impatient! Some of us have jobs and, bizarrely, better things to do, so you really can't expect an immediate and overwhelming response. But on a lighter note, it sounds like Ken had a good time over here in our little country. Good on yer my son, especially for using the word "Blighty". >>Why do the pubs close so damn early? Why can't I get a drink after 11? Because you're foreign. Normally we drink all night (and all day) but as soon as we see or hear anyone from elsewhere, the cunning artifice we call "licensing hours" comes into play. We just don't want to share our booze with a bunch of lightweights! >>While in Edinbourough(please excuse spelling errors, if any) Sorry, I can't help myself.....it's EDINBURGH.......I feel better now - carry on! >>Black Sea---purchaed alongside the Dead Kennedys FRESH FRUIT FOR ROTTING VEGATABLES in Pawtucket, RI's Beacon Records(now defunct). A man after my own heart - I salute you! >> I wondered if Dom was actually at this gig in late September. Nope, but I kinda wish I had been. Somehow I've never managed to catch The Damned live, despite their regular reunion tours. However, a band I was in supported Naz Nomad & The Nightmares at the Mean Fiddler in Harlesden once, which was very cool indeed. They were actually quite awful, with only Vanian and Roman Jugg from The Damned in the line-up, but it was a great nearly-punk rock moment. (Not) interestingly, Vanian used to be a gravedigger in Hemel Hempstead, which is unfortunately where I grew up. Now I live in Brighton, as does Captain Sensible. Spooky. >> I guess he's too busy listening to Test Dept., Emperor and Hank Williams Sr. My brother and Dom would have lots of music in common. Yes, you may well be right! Out of those three I'd have to choose Emperor though, for reasons of a Norwegian Black Metal nature. Seriously, an awesome group of musicians. Most of you would hate it! Salut! Dom.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <4782AD6ADDBDD2119B570008C75DD5C12DBA51@mgmtm02.parliament.uk> From: Lawson Dominic <LawsonD@parliament.uk> Subject: Jock's Trap Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:50:50 -0000 >>I hereby predict a victory for England at Wembley tonight. COME ON ENGERLAND!!!!!!! Bugger.
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