Chalkhills Digest Volume 5, Issue 146
Date: Tuesday, 23 March 1999
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 146
Tuesday, 23 March 1999
Today's Topics:
River of Orchids / push your car ...
Re: AV1 liner pics
Catfight indeed
Album Of The Week
Hipgnosis
If someone IS compiling a list of mis-heard lyrics
The usual miscellany...
album covers
MY "Sgt Pepper"
breathing
ripoffs, dead rock stars, and an elongated moment of bliss
Re:The Sun's Gone Cold
bubbledumb
Orchoustic Suggestion
Ooooops!
Re: Fripp/Damned
Autographs and AV lyric insert
Greenman - Demo vs AV1
re: One Live Song
Another XTC discussion area.
Questions of a feather
my encroaching senility
take a breath
Famous Quote Revisited
Re: XTC fans & traders
some XTC stuff on eBay
no XTC - John Lydon
Re: sartori in tangential
Object
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:57:16 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <2.2.16.19990322115246.113f8b24@pop2.igc.org>
From: Charles Komanoff <kea@igc.org>
Subject: River of Orchids / push your car ...
Elizabeth wrote:
> Anyway, say you're listening to AV1 in your car over and over again. And
> say every time you hear River of Orchids, all you can think is, "But I LIKE
> my car!" Does that make you a bad person?
Not necessarily.
But it does suggest you're spending too much time in your car.
I "pushed my car from the road" some 20 years ago.
You may not be ready to do that yet ... but do listen to what
Andy is saying:
Take a packet of seeds, take yourself out to play
I want to see a river of orchids where we had a motorway
Push your car from the road
Just like a mad dog you're chasing your tail in a circle
It's all in your back yard
You've the whole world at your feet
Said the grass is always greener when it bursts up through concrete
River of orchids winding our way
Want to walk into London on my hands one day
River of orchids the road overgrows
Want to walk into London smelling like a Peckham rose
I had a dream where the car is reduced to a fossil
[etc.]
-- Charlie Komanoff [3 bicycles, one transit
Metro-card, lots of sneakers, no car ...]
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:05:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199903221705.JAA18702@mando.engr.sgi.com> From: John Relph <relph@engr.sgi.com> Subject: Re: AV1 liner pics Joe_Jarrett@nynet.nybe.on.ca (Joe Jarrett) wrote: > >What is the picture on the band in the cassette? I have one but I haven't >opened it, as I'll never play it anyway. Andy Partridge is close up and out of focus on the left, his face half cropped by the edge of the pic, and Colin is walking into the frame on the right, further back and in focus. -- John
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990322174831.4896.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Amanda Owens" <daveizgod@hotmail.com> Subject: Catfight indeed Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:48:30 CST And a hearty good morning to all! The illustrious Mark Strijbos did sayeth: >Finally, Brad made an interesting comment: > >>... and another Molly-Amanda catfight... which is only slightly less >> pleasurable to think about than Linda!) > >My money is on Amanda :) Thanks....I think. ;) Jefferson Ogata did sayeth: >One unfortunate thing about the chalkhills digest format is that I >can't just put Amanda and Molly in a kill file. > >Take it to email for crying out loud. S-C-R-O-L-L D-O-W-N is how I spell "easy way to rid thyself of people thou dost not like on the list" in my dictionary. You might find it useful, medear. Wes did sayeth: >I don't know, Amanda; I saw your photo in the latest The Little Express. >You're cute in a natural way. Aww thanks. <g> Tis all for now, just got a letter from the Almighty in the mail ,and I have yet to sit and read it! Amanda XTC song of the day-Roads Girdle the Globe non-XTC song-She Runs Away-Duncan Sheik
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Message-Id: <199903222319.AAA10319@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:31:31 +0000
Subject: Album Of The Week
Dear Chalkers,
Just a short note to let you all know that AV1 is this weeks Album Of
The Week in the prominent "Denk Aan Henk" show on the national Dutch
pop radio station. They'll play another album track every day at
around 1 pm - that's is a lot of prime time exposure for our Heroes
I feel that those who have already given up on this album may have
been a bit premature - it could very well be another "slow burner"
just like Skylarking. It took a while (and Dear God) for that one too
and we all know that XTC is an acquired taste. You have to put in an
effort to (fully) appreciate it.
BTW: i must admit that the choice for Easter Theatre as the first UK
(and Euro?) single has me baffled a bit. I know Andy would never even
consider doing anything that could be deemed "commercial" but surely
E.T. is not the song that will lure the punters in - or is it?
I'd say that it is one of the more "difficult" songs on the album,
both musically and lyrically, and very euh... challenging for the
average 15 year old. Don't get me wrong, i love the song to bits!
i just have a hard time seeing this single sell beyond the rather
small circle of XTC completists and totally anal types like yours
truly, who now has twelve (12) copies of AV1 and is still looking for
a copy of the UK advance cd.
PS: Easter Theatre has already taken some flak for being "another
crass attempt to cash in on Jesus Christ" or words to that effect.
Can't these stoopid people listen to the lyrics? It is not
about the Jewish or Christian Easter at all but filled with pagan
imagery and symbolism.
And it's a bit rich to blame XTC for cashing in: after all it was
the Christian church that "absorbed" those old pagan rituals and
symbols it couldn't eradicate. Hares, rabbits and eggs are age old
fertility symbols predating any organized religion. And where did
that Xmas tree come from? Bethlehem? i think not...
yours in xtc,
Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
or http://come.to/xtc
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36F6F9B1.6974@heraldonline.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:17:26 -0500 From: BPeschel@heraldonline.com (Bill Peschel) Organization: The Herald Subject: Hipgnosis Greetings; Fans of the graphic company Hipgnosis should be on the lookout for a used copy of "Hipgnosis: Walk Away Rene" with describes many of the covers and the stories behind them. No XTC content, unfortunately. -- Bill Peschel Book page editor, Rock Hill (S.C.) Herald
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36F6F9F8.BFFDFE13@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:18:33 -0800 From: Ken Sanders <moparson@pacbell.net> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Subject: If someone IS compiling a list of mis-heard lyrics ..AND, supposing there's an award for the best (worst?) example...AND, supposing I win, I promise to NOT hop on chairs like Benigni in accepting the award *big, cheesy grin* Erich and Kristen, y'all are welcome for whatever chuckles you got from my twisted lyric listening (I knew I wasn't hearing it right, but my lazy Californian ears couldn't quite make out whar AP was saying...). SOoooo, on a barely related XTC topic....umm...where be an XTC fan-babe in the South Bay (...pandering at its worst, I know, but what's a guy to do?) Ken (crawling back under my desk to hide)
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:21:13 -0500
From: Dave Rutherford <drutherf@techmail.gdc.com>
Subject: The usual miscellany...
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.00.9903222045490.632-100000@esun1006>
Hello,
First, thanks to whoever it was who pointed out the Smile
page. I downloaded the MP3s, changed them to CD audio format,
cleaned 'em up a bit, and that new CD-R has displaced Apple Venus
in my player for the time being. This sounds good! (Anyone want
a copy? Let me know soon as I'll be needing the disk space...)
Secondly, I was puzzled by the lack of interest in my "contest",
which was a play on "find the next album title in this one". AV1
seems to contain hints of *previous* album titles; I offered
Oranges and Lemons <- Apples and Pears
Skylarking <- Gamboling
So either I've already exhausted the topic, or no one saw what
I was getting at. Who knows, some decent submissions and maybe
I'll offer a prize or two!
Thirdly, some people have been puzzled by the Englishisms
on Apple Venus 1. I've been more puzzled by some of those
which were conspicuously absent. "Form that line right here"
from "The Last Balloon" is very obvious; isn't the English
thing to say "Form that queue..."? There's another striking
example which escapes me just now...
Fourthly: Mark, in your recent contest, nine people got
perfect scores; I'd be interested in the names of the four
who didn't win, as well as a statistical breakdown on the
rest of the entrants...
Lastly, I'm pleased to report some success in XTC conversions.
The three copies of AV1 I gifted upon my closest friends have
resulted in at least two additional AV1 purchases (the other
friend simply duped a copy for his car; also a good sign!)
Cheers,
Dave
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199903230222.UAA18492@access.mbnet.mb.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 20:21:58 -0600 Subject: album covers From: "McCausland_Ian" <talk@ian.mb.ca> > It's sad that album covers have taken such a back seat in the CD era, > because half the fun of buying a new album used to be exploring the cover. > Looking at the cover was such an intregal part of listening to the music. I can still remember the day I bought Black Sea and finallysaw inside those black plastic bags! This was around Zepplins' "In thru the Out door" in the brown grocery bag paper... and I seem to recall Flash & The Pan doing something with theirs as well... The Black Sea plastic didn't hold up over time but I still have the zepplin wrapper... and the innersleeve sin't "colored" yet either
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990323033716.13104.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:37:16 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: MY "Sgt Pepper" as another off topic thread-debate: MY "Sgt Pepper" was The Clash's London Calling what was yers? I'd have to say MY Sgt. Pepper was Elvis Costello's Armed Forces. Blew my 15 year old rural mid-Michigan mind wide open!
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990323034512.2609.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:45:12 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: breathing One of the great AV 1 moments that no one mentioned before: Andy's >> breathing in at the beginning of Your Dictionary (...) Does anyone >> know other songs which are started this way? There's a song by this guy named Mr. Partridge (on his album "Take Away/The Lure of Salvage") named "Shore Leave Ornithology (Another 1950)" that has lots of breathing throughout the entire song...
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36F702E6.CAA36637@mnsi.net> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:57:22 -0400 From: Micheal Stone <nedrise@MNSi.Net> Subject: ripoffs, dead rock stars, and an elongated moment of bliss Chalkdusters Stephanie wrote: >Sort of like the difference between Rachmaninoff and ex-Raspberries founder Eric Carmen (who borrowed some of Rach's motifs for the schmaltzy, unintentionally hilarious "All By Myself"). His tune "Never Going to Fall In Love Again" was also a Rachman-rip-off. Ian wrote: >does anyone else recall that comment made my Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails, about how the death of Freedie Mercury affected him more than the death of John Lennon?.... well same for me.... I bawled my eyes out when Terry Kath(guitarist in Chicago) shot himself. I was a huge fan of the band at the time(1978). He was a fabulous player, by the way. My choice for a tune for XTC to play in my living room? First I was going to say that it would be too heartbraking to have just one tune, but I suppose one short moment of bliss is better than none at all. So my pick would be Books Are Burning, with a coupla stipulations: Dave has to play guitar, so him and Andy can duke it out at the end. That means we'll need an organ player, so Barry, come on down! And, short pop tunes be damned, the duelling has to go on for at least oh, 10 minutes. Hey, I want that bliss to go on as long as possible! Outside of downright repetition, how we could get the boys to play 1 song for as long as possible? Mike
------------------------------ From: RiknBkr@aol.com Message-ID: <b0744c42.36f7104d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:53:49 EST Subject: Re:The Sun's Gone Cold >> I can't remember the product, but I've also recently seen an >> annoying use of "Good Day, Sunshine" in a commercial. Ugh. >Kellog's Cornflakes or some other cereal perhaps? >But that's actually very fitting 'cos if i remember correctly John >Lennon was euh... "inspired" by a Kellog's commercial when he wrote >this tune. I think this factoid was mentioned in "The Beatles", the >authorized bio from 1968. Small factoid correction.it was "Good Morning, Good Morning" Cheers, Phil Cusimano
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:08:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <v03007800b31c70c026f8@[209.86.136.12]> From: Mitch Friedman <mitchf@mindspring.com> Subject: bubbledumb Hello, Too bad I don't have a photographic memory or I'd be able to recount all the titles to all the bubblegum album songs since Andy showed me a list of them in his book, along with fake band names to go with them. Knights in Shining Karma was one of the band names by the way. Another song that surely exists is called "I'm The Kaiser" which Andy sang a bit for me. Sounds a bit like "I'm Henry VIII I Am". It's tres stoopede. Mitch
------------------------------ Message-ID: <19990323041630.19172.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 20:16:30 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Rushton <markrushton@yahoo.com> Subject: Orchoustic Suggestion I just recently got a Scott Walker best-of, "It's Raining Today, The Scott Walker Story (1967-70)" on the US Razor & Tie label, which was compiled by Marshall Crenshaw (remember him?) and Robert Kemp. Getting this just a couple weeks after AV1, I was surprised to hear the "Orchoustic" sound again. I only got into Scott Walker after reading a positive review of his "Tilt" album back in 1995 when it came out. That album is totally bonkers, but I love it. "Tilt" bears only fleeting resemblence to Walker's 60's output. It's mostly an industrial dirge. Surprise, surprise on the compilation to hear glorious strings, acoustic guitar, only occasionally a beat, and a truly wonderful voice. What a crooner. This is the late 60's, but the subject matter is bizarre: full of songs about transvestites, weird neighbors, Army induction, Joseph Stalin, and some really oddball country stuff towards the end of the disc (right when his career nosedived). Just hear the creepy, hovering strings on the title track to know what I'm talking about. Just a few months ago I heard "Pet Sounds" for the first time in full (I know, kick me...) and this Scott Walker album had an even bigger affect on me. Check it out if you dare.... Mark Rushton Quote of the year: Robert Wyatt in Mojo 64 (March 1999 issue with XTC in it), "I'm a bleedin' grown-up. I listen to grown-up music."
------------------------------ Message-ID: <000d01be74f0$0af2a600$c2f032ca@speedking> From: "Simon Curtiss" <mduffy@clear.net.nz> Subject: Ooooops! Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:43:11 +1200 Oh Bugger!!!!!!!! I just called Belinda - Bridget Sorreeeeeeeeeeeeee I'm off to hide in my shed until she goes back to England Simon (puts on hair shirt and barry manilow record, and starts hitting himself with fly swatter - is that penance enough?)
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990322224349.0069ed00@mail.halcyon.com> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:44:57 -0800 From: "Lynn S." <nemaliand@halcyon.com> Subject: Re: Fripp/Damned Eb asked: >Speaking of Robert Fripp, here's what I've been wondering for years: Why is >Fripp pictured on the back of the Damned's "The Light at the End of the >Tunnel" compilation? Did he work with the Damned, at some time? I once >asked the King Crimson clique this, but they didn't have a clue -- heck, I >seriously doubt they had even HEARD of the Damned. Anyone know? There's >gotta be a slew of '70s UK-punk fanatics on this list.... My 70's UK-punk fanatic loved one, Stinky Ken of the band Stink, says this is because Fripp might have played guitar on "Rabid", the cd mix. Lynn S.
------------------------------ From: a.de.koning@bpa.vnu.com Message-ID: <C125673D.002C2E66.00@bpa.vnu.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:11:28 +0100 Subject: Autographs and AV lyric insert Yesterday mr. postman brought to my house a neatly wrapped package containing the autographed AV1 I'd won in the Apple Venus Contest on The Little Lighthouse! YEAH! Thanks go to Andy and Colin for signing it, Cooking vinyl for supplying the discs and last but not least Mark for organizing the contest in the first place! I'm really glad I went through books and articles to make sure all my answers were correct :) And another round of thanks go to John H. Hedges (he of XTCware fame) for the AV lyric insert PDF: it looks great and I had no problems with the duplex printing:) Now I don't know how much work it is to make such a file, but reworked versions of the Go2 and RnBB postscript files would be great too, since I do have problems with the double sided printing of those :( The PDF format is better portable anyway. Cheers! Andre
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36F6FE64.729D228D@texas.net> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 02:37:24 +0000 From: d-erelict <magmound@texas.net> Organization: d-mentia!<http://magmound.home.texas.net> Subject: Greenman - Demo vs AV1 J. D. Mack might have spoke: > 5. When I heard the demo for "Greenman," I hated the fact that the opening > woodwind part repeated throughout the entire song. Thank God that someone > had the sense to ditch that idea! Now I think the song sounds great! LOL!! Funny, because I feel exactly the opposite... I got the demos a few weeks before the official release (I tried to resist them, but a friend handed them to me...), and when I heard the studio version of Greenman, I was semi-let down... I wish that: 1. The original "cheesy" synth-oboe had been left in, & 2. It had run through the whole song more predominantly. To me, it's what carried the song through the demo version, and without it, it just becomes a little tedious to me after 4 or 5 minutes... I think the "real" opening blows in comparison to the demo. Just my opinion, of course... d-erek (austin, tx... natch, Jill ;-)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36F704A1.87ADB734@texas.net> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:04:01 +0000 From: d-erelict <magmound@texas.net> Organization: d-mentia!<http://magmound.home.texas.net> Subject: re: One Live Song > Cheryl asked in chalk 141 > > "If you could have XTC play one song live for you(yes, > that is the stipulation. ONE Song) personally, what > would you pick?" Wow, just one, eh? Hmmmmmmmmmm.... (and I suppose medleys are out, right?) Miniature Sun, with Terry drumming! (not that I don't love ya, Pat!) > My second choice would be "Snowman" > The Mole > chillin' Me too! Isn't the Transistor Blast version superb?! d-erek (and if medleys are in, it's Garden of Earthly Delights/Rocket From a Bottle/Big Day/Miniature Sun)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36F788BA.86FF80F4@pop.uky.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 07:27:38 -0500 From: james isaacs <jmisaa00@pop.uky.edu> Subject: Another XTC discussion area. Hello, Just dropped in to see what condition my condition is in. -On the Six degrees site, (www.sxdegrees.com) I have set up some sort of XTC chat/discussion board area. There is a chat time set up for this Tjursday (25th) at I think 5 pm. Perhaps we can have an AV1 listening party, no? Please reply to me or go to the XTC page on Six Degrees and put on a post. I would like to have XTC dominate Britney Spears there. -Does anyone besides myself hear a Kurt Weill influence in Easter Theatre? -A sortof XTC sounding album out right now is he new Wilco offering, Summerteeth. Well, maybe not XTC-sounding, but it is gloorting good. -I read an AV1 review somewhere, maybe CDnow (I forget now) and said Easter Theatre was about breasts. Interesting how record reviewers can be quite one-dimensional, when it is their job to be pan-dimensional. Perhaps they are mice on another planets. (Sorry, I digress often). -I think the comparisons between AV1 and Go2 are blatant and I think XTC should put their past behind them and realize they will never make the classic that Go2 was ever again (Oh no, I have bitten my tongue with my molars.) I think I am going insane, James (the other one)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36F78944.91129F0E@erols.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 07:29:56 -0500 From: Todd and Jennifer Bernhardt <toddjenn@erols.com> Subject: Questions of a feather Hi: Fairly simple query here that could have life-altering ramifications, so PAY ATTENTION! I pre-ordered my copy of AV1 from Music Boulevard. It's an American version, TVT 3250-2. The cover has the peacock feather pointing down -- its base at the bottom (pointing due south, for the geographically inclined) of the jewel-case insert. But most other copies I've seen, or read about, have the base of the feather pointing to the left (west) of the insert. Wuzzup wif dis? Do I have some incredibly rare (and thus valuable) insert printing aberration, or is it one of the millions? All babbling crossword, Todd
------------------------------ From: STakesh@aol.com Message-ID: <447b988c.36f79139@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 08:03:53 EST Subject: my encroaching senility Hi, everyone! A fellow Talking Heads fan on this list tipped me off to my embarrassing mixup: David Byrne ran in place in the studio to record "Drugs," off of "Fear of Music"(1979), and not "Psycho Killer". Or as P.W. put it, "The esteemed Mr. Byrne's vocals on PK (and everything else up to Remain In Light) are best attributed to nerves!" The sourcebook for this info in the first place is "Talking Heads" by "Jerome Davis"[a pseudonym; anyone know for whom?]. Extremely spurious XTC content: many or most of TH's songs were published by the "Bleu Disque Music Co.". Andy Partridge would, of course, later record "Disque Bleu". I don't recall if there's any mention of XTC in the book, which I read several times in the '80's. Probably not. Stephanie T.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199903231310.IAA01479@sgi.com> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 08:07:59 -0500 From: "Simmons, Jonathan S." <jonathan_simmons@merck.com> Subject: take a breath My fave bit of respiration-related song enhancement has to be the heavy sigh Housemartin Paul Heaton heaves before launching into "Sheep." How's THAT for obscure? -Jon S.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s6f74fd6.045@gw.utk.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 08:28:36 -0500 From: "todd steed" <steedt@cie.gw.utk.edu> Subject: Famous Quote Revisited in light of the recent venom spit out by Andy regarding a certain ex-x'er... Let's change that quote to: "Do what you will, but harm none...uh, at least physically. Mental cruelty is OK. I mean, like, we're human-- so there's an excuse that works."
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s6f765bd.053@gwia.nwf.org> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:22:44 -0500 From: "TOM GRIFFIN" <GRIFFIN@nwf.org> Subject: Re: XTC fans & traders Please Post: Hello everyone! I just wanted to come out of the woodwork to say a couple of things: 1. I just wanted to re-state that this is the greatest site in the world. The amount of work necessary to keep Chalkhills together must be tremendous, but it is consistently an amazing site. Kudos! 2. I have been re-confirmed in the notion that XTC fans are the greatest in the world. I have been trading various XTC-related items with folks from this list. And, I must say that I am constantly surprised by the generosity of all of you. Specifically I'd like to thank Steve Bannister, Bruce Bubier & James Roberts. These aren't the only folks who have been generous, but they are the most recent. And, they have gone "above & beyond" in making this XTC fan happy. Thanks again!! 3. My earlier negative impressions of AV1 are long gone. I now love the album (although I agree that it should be a little longer). Best songs: Easter Theatre, Harvest Festival, Your Dictionary, Frivolous Tonight.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <B9B4268C8F87D11195DC0000F840FABE0838784F@DUB-MSG-02> From: Peter Fitzpatrick <peterfit@MICROSOFT.com> Subject: some XTC stuff on eBay Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 06:52:52 -0800 Spring cleaning in the Fitzpatrick house.... some XTC "doubles" from my collection for sale (other artists too...but sure yis wouldn't be interested in them anyways would yis ?) http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=peterfitz
------------------------------ Message-ID: <65B793F0016DD11196E800A0C960343612A468@FS_1> From: Sheridan Zabel <SZabel@rawnarch.com> Subject: no XTC - John Lydon Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:09:23 -0500 Chris wrote: "(though in The Sex Pistols' case, they were > too easily manipulated by both Johnny Rotten/Lydon and Malcolm McLaren > and were doomed to implode as soon as they kicked out Glen Matlock, > the one truly accomplished musician in the band) " > Yes, it was an aside, but I just have to say that I think John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) was also an accomplished musician from the Pistols. Look at all the wonderful tongue in cheek, angry stuff he's put out since then. Just the song "Rise" alone should be enough to convince anyone. Yet he put out a ton of other amazing stuff. That's all. I'll step off my soapbox now. ~Sheri ps. Just so you all know (what with these angry postings and all) I'm not mad at Chris for expressing his opinion. I'm glad of it, because it gave me a chance to mention yet another great person in the world.
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:57:02 -0600 (CST)
From: vince <vince@io.com>
Subject: Re: sartori in tangential
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9903231048580.12516-100000@schultz.io.com>
On Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:33:34 -0800
> From: Eb <gondola@deltanet.com>
> Subject: sartori in tangential
>
> Speaking of Robert Fripp, here's what I've been wondering for years: Why is
> Fripp pictured on the back of the Damned's "The Light at the End of the
> Tunnel" compilation? Did he work with the Damned, at some time? I once
> asked the King Crimson clique this, but they didn't have a clue -- heck, I
> seriously doubt they had even HEARD of the Damned. Anyone know? There's
> gotta be a slew of '70s UK-punk fanatics on this list....
Eb, you miserable bastard. :) I, at least, have heard of the Damned.
Still have that first album on blue vinyl somewhere. Also saw
Fripp with ProjecKt 3 last night(as well as in '79 on his
Frippertronics tour). From the ET discography:
The Damned
Fun Factory
single
1990
12": 1990 UK Deltic (Platinum) DELT 7T
C5: 1990 UK Deltic DELT 7C
Fun Factory
Xtc content - I sure end up humming Supergirl alot after listening
to AV1.
vince
------------------------------ Message-ID: <36F7C4D5.FF2B0081@which.net> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:44:05 +0000 From: B Blanchard <b.blanchard@which.net> Subject: Object Look, my Australian mate Pete who lived in London and got chucked out in 1983 for overstaying his Visa welcome - by two years - is responsible for the whole Hanoi Rocks thing as I was involved with the bugger when he got tickets and we went together. Twice. He also got me into Echo and Costello so he wasn't all bad. Anyway - he just emailed me the following. He lives in Adelaide BTW "Oh yeah - Three D (community radio) made "Apple Venus 1" album of the week recently, so I heard a fair bit of it. Like all their stuff, it's good, but doesn't really grab me." Bye for now BELINDA
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