Chalkhills Digest Volume 4, Issue 80
Date: Monday, 11 May 1998
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 4, Number 80
Monday, 11 May 1998
Today's Topics:
The Omni- Bus
Andy & Colin Show/Austin Powers/Songs on Firework
re: XTC vs. TMBG
Nothing About Dave, Honest !
Oh boy, not again
Re: The Walrus is Dead
Re: Live, 1980
Andy stands aloft
Re: Stereolab
andy walks offstage?
Dave, Colin, Me & Andy
moving on
Re: In Loving Memory of a Name
Chill Pill/Crocodile Song
What is that naked ladies tune?
Re: Mitch
Re: garage bands
What's Chalkhills For?
NOT COLIN TOO!!??!!??!!
Et tu?
that Colin joke..
The Urbane Bassman
With all this bad news........
The Internet and Its Discontents
Stipey Wipey
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <199805082159.OAA03684@access.tucson.org> From: "J. D. SMX" <jsmelser@access.tucson.org> Organization: Access Tucson Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 15:08:34 -0700 Subject: The Omni- Bus Hello Chalkabillies, Due to the departure of one guitarist, I deemed the possibility of a tour remote at best. So, I cancelled the rental of the Omni-Bus and got my deposit back. The only evidence left that the idea existed are those pictures you drew. Have a good one......SMX
------------------------------ Message-ID: <35541B20.DBC7A811@po.twin.ne.jp> Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 09:00:18 +0000 From: michaelw <michaelw@po.twin.ne.jp> Subject: Andy & Colin Show/Austin Powers/Songs on Firework Chalkers, Kudos go out to Harrison S, Richard P/A, Mitch, Rob, and all the others who have echoed the sentiment that Gregsy's leaving does NOT mean the end of musical contributions from either himself nor from Andy or Colin....in fact, this may open up a whole new avenue for Dave, like, we may actually hear some of his self-penned songs, complete with (GULP! No, Dave...NO!) vocals from Lord Plum himself?! Actually, I like his voice (and I know I'm not the only one out there!) Whatever Andy and Colin decide to do, the music will go on...it's their LIFE, man...you can take the canvas away from the painter, but the painter will find a world of other things to paint on and places to paint....yes, Dave quit XTC...but guess what? He's still got all those guitars, and (as far as we know), his fingers are still quite capable of doing the magic that we've been so fortunate to hear for all these years, and will continue to hear...So warm up a cup of tea and chill! Let's move on, there's more to talk about, OK? In fact... There's a new album/book coming soon, so despair not, Good Chalkies! The best is yet to come! Re: Austin Powers.... That movie is a hoot! Man, I had some Dukes songs running throughout while watching...Vanishing Girl...Have You Seen Jackie?...You're My Drug...Your Gold Dress....etc....anyone know if Andy, Colin, or Dave saw it and has any opinion on it, or (in Andy's case) has he really excorcised the 60's out of his system once and for all? Finally, on things Firework.... A few months ago, someone posted the running order/songs that "made it" onto the final list of ones the lads were going to use for Firework....is there any way to know what songs will, definately, appear on Firework? How many songs? Which songs? ( I really should check out the FAQ again on the Chalkhills website, right John? :-) Domo and oyasumi! Michael in Osaka
------------------------------ Message-ID: <3553C6FF.DEA554A7@concentric.net> Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 23:01:20 -0400 From: DonSueP <DonSueP@concentric.net> Subject: re: XTC vs. TMBG Hi, I'm Don. I've been an XTC fool for 16 years, but a reader of Chalkhills for only 2 months. First post. This may sound cliche or corny by now, but finding this list and all of you fellow XTC fans just feels like . . . home. Up until now I've only ever known ONE real XTC fan, a radical, angst-ridden Texan I met in the Army. I haven't seen him for 15 years but I still often think of him (Scott Marler, are you also lurking here?). It was 1983 when Scott first turned me on simultaneously to BS and ES, as well as Talking Heads and The Clash. These bands seemed, at least at the time(!), to mark quite a departure for someone whose favorite bands at that point were Pink Floyd and the Beatles. I've almost posted several times in response to some other great posts - the hilarious 'French wanker' bit, the purity and honesty (and to hell with 'manliness') of our Season Cycle worshipper come to mind. And I like the provocativeness of Kirt's recent, "Where do you work? Do you do drugs?" But, umm, Kirt, do you really think you are going to get an honest answer to both of these questions? Likewise, I've been wondering how many other XTC fans are joyful atheists like myself, who find it such an incredible catharsis to sing along, loud and clear, to Dear God . . . But Kim's brilliant post called to me because of the sheer coincidences. It was just one week ago that I bought my first TMBG release, "Then: The Early Years" which contains their first two albums and more. Let me tell you, Kim's description of "pure creative genius" is not an exaggeration. (I was already familiar with a few of their hits; the intro to "Ana Ng" always reminded me of XTC and whenever I'd hear it on the radio during my commute it would send me into a head-bobbing, traffic distracting frenzy.) Then a friend lent me "Flood", and I've played it at least once a day for the past four days - one thing I can tell you, Kirt, is that if you walk through the halls of your work singing the lyrics to "Particle Man", "Someone Keeps Moving My Chair", or "Whistling in the Dark", people will definitely think that you do drugs. Still, I needed more, so I went back and got their latest "Factory Showroom", primarily because of "XTC vs. Adam Ant" which is very a cool song, among other very cool songs, but compared to the "quirky duo" version Kim is right, it is somehow lacking something. Thanks for the insight Kim. We can only hope that you are also right about the coming commercial success of XTC. Now that's what I call Burning with Optimism's Flame! Don Parker p.s. Dave Gregory is leaving, but consider: John Lennon DIED but we never lost the Beatles. [Attachment omitted, unknown MIME type or encoding (text/x-vcard)]
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199805091434.QAA22619@mail.knoware.nl> From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl> Organization: The Little Lighthouse Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 16:35:48 +0000 Subject: Nothing About Dave, Honest ! Dear Chalkers, A small matter needs some clarification: > On top of that, he [Dave] doesn't write songs for XTC, so he collects no > royalties (as if royalties weren't a sore enough subject re XTC). You are right but the members of XTC agreed some years ago to give each other a percentage (10%?) of all the royalties earned. Don't underestimate royalties btw; every time a record is sold the composer gets a tiny amount. But if it's played on the radio or TV he can get quite a nice sum related to the audience size of the station. BTW: i agree wholeheartedly with Mitch and others who have urged us not to second-guess or fight over Dave's departure. Let's all show some dignity and take it like a man and / or lady... yours in xtc, Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse the XTC website @ http://come.to/xtc and http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello
------------------------------ From: MFa2707621 <MFa2707621@aol.com> Message-ID: <987a86d8.3554c012@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 16:44:01 EDT Subject: Oh boy, not again Chalkers, I just read the latest Chalkhills, and I couldn't believe what I read. Someone said that Colin left. Let's not jump to conclusions. Let's wait until someone who knows the group let's us know if this is true or not. I don't know why some people on this list have to personally attack Mitch for what he said. I agree with him. Yes, some of you just found out about Dave's departure, but most of us have known for a few weeks now. He was just voicing his opinion. If it wasn't for him, we wouldn't have known about Dave's departure. I just hope we stop attacking him. He's just telling us what he knows. I'm glad that he's on this list. Bye for now. Molly
------------------------------ Message-ID: <3554C0DB.1E03@bhip.infi.net> Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 16:47:27 -0400 From: gregory <mattone@bhip.infi.net> Organization: InfiNet Subject: Re: The Walrus is Dead Tschalkgerz! > Colin Moulding calls it quits I am distraught to have to be the one to inform fellow Chalkhill subscribers of this massive blow to the group as we know it.< YEEOWWCH! I can hear the sobbing now. This place is going to get real ugly real fast. -Brian
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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980509164004.006a41d0@mail.clemson.edu>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 16:40:04 -0400
From: Adam Tyner <ctyner@clemson.edu>
Subject: Re: Live, 1980
<<-i found a CD at a used store called "XTC in concert". it says "made
in Canada" on the back and i assume it's from the 1980 BBC sessions.
it is great as an album and includes "Living through another Cuba",
"Nigel", "Towers of London", and "Love at First Sight". Am i to
assume these versions are on the "Drums and Wireless" CD that I
haven't purchased yet?>>
I enjoy that particular album too...it's totally different from "Drums And
Wireless", however. Both have live songs broadcast on the BBC, but the
Drums And Wireless songs weren't recorded in-concert, though...they were
recorded (I believe) live, in-studio. D&Wless is a great album, and well
worth the price. Several of the songs (especially "No Thugs In Our House",
"Jason & The Argonauts", and "You're The Wish That I Had") are better than
the LP versions, IMO.
-Adam
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------------------------------ Message-ID: <3554C197.7DBB@umich.edu> Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 16:50:31 -0400 From: Rob Hill <rhill@umich.edu> Subject: Andy stands aloft There seems to be a certain degree of animosity pointed at Andy for his reluctance to tour. I never noticed this until recently. How strange, says I, for this refusal to play live was one of the points which so endeared me to the band when I first stumbled headlong into them. When confronted with the "but all bands must play live, it's just the way it's done" attitude exhibited by nervous musicados with gaping goldfish mouths, Andy merely folded his arms in stubbornness & shook his head. This defiance was quite an inspiration to me. This personal freedom. Are you folks actually suggesting XTC "do as other bands do?" Egad, people! Yes, I admit I would be first in line to see XTC should they come within gigameters (or nanometers) of my town. But in the meanwhile, I will rally behind Andy's decision with blustering pride, prepared to swashbuckle with celerysticks if necessary to preserve his integrity. (Pardon me while I stand to attention with patriotic fervor to the strains of "Living in a Rubber Tuba" -- the live version, of course.) Skylark292 remarks: >Besides, just as much space if not more was devoted to that silly >"Is Dave gay?" thread last year and everyone survived that, didn't they? Aha! Could there be a link here? I think we now know the truth behind his leaving the group. Chalkhillers, be proud of your topnotch investigative journalism! Next week: Is it true Colin is a hermaphroditic cannibal? What "really" happened to Terry? Jason 'Buffy' NeSmith proclaimeth: >it's the one that goes with the playground smash hit >'There's a place in France where the naked ladies dance.' Actually I always heard it as "there's a place in France where the ladies wear no pants," but then I went to a private school, so... Rob (the other one)
------------------------------ Message-Id: <l03110701b17aa1239a04@[209.112.136.20]> Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 18:10:55 -0800 From: Michael Travis <mdt@pobox.alaska.net> Subject: Re: Stereolab John Relph wrote: > John Irvine <jirvine@bellatlantic.net> asks: > > > Anyone else here caught the Stereolab bug? Top quality, very well done > > stuff. > > Yes, I thoroughly enjoy _Dots and Loops_. I'm still looking for a > used copy of _Emperor Tomato Ketchup_. I heard it at a friend's pad > and enjoyed it. _Mars Audiac Quintet_ is also very very good. I got D&L about six months ago and since then have bought most of their catalog. Not very often that a band grabs me like this. When I first listened to _Dots and Loops_, I was reminded of the 1960s view of the future in _2001: A Space Odyssey_. I could imagine it being listened to by passengers on that Pan Am shuttle or in the orbital station. Musically though, I think MAQ is stronger than D&L, with ETK somewhere inbetween. But, I like all three and some of their earlier stuff also.
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 20:45:56 -0600 From: "Eric L. Muller" <EMuller@uwyo.edu> Subject: andy walks offstage? Message-id: <c=US%a=_%p=UWYO%l=TELEGRAPH-980510024556Z-67566@telegraph.uwyo.edu> I'd love to know where to find that .avi of Andy walking offstage in Paris (or wherever it was) that was mentioned in the most recent Chalkhills. Thanks to anyone who can point the way... Eric Muller emuller@uwyo.edu PS--I don't mean to stir anything up here, but have you all heard that Dave Gregory left the band? ;-)
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Message-ID: <35552EE7.E4863D73@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 21:36:55 -0700
From: Steven Graff <slapdash@earthlink.net>
Organization: SLAPDASH
Subject: Dave, Colin, Me & Andy
Hey folks,
I'm gonna miss Dave and Colin immensely. If what's been said is
true, maybe Colin, Dave and Barry can get Dave Mattacks and form their
own band in a year...wouldn't that be sweet?
I hate doing this, but to respond to opinions about Andy levelled
by me, and lots of people saying "you'll never realize what's involved
until you try it,"
I'm 28, I wrote about a hundred songs since I was 14. I have a
struggling band...struggling because the people that told me to get a
band three years ago have all been signed now, and I have no one to gig
with; struggling because my music isn't the usual alternative slosh
(it's got XTC as an influence, don't cha know), and gigging in L.A. most
expect you to be current (or "hip")...which I never want to be. I'm very
possessive of my songs...possessive enough to copyright all of them once
my friends convinced me I could actually make a living with them (that
was in 1993).
Everything about having, and being in a band, I learned from
reading Chalkhills (the Book) and listening to Andy as he made his
moves...good and bad....I highly respect him and appreciate him as a
sort of vicarious alter-ego or model. I also learned a lot from the Jam
and Brian Eno about music and bands, in that respect.
What I said about him only had to do with the shock and conclusions
I immediately drew when I paralleled this departure to Terry's, and the
frustration I read about and sensed on the part of Colin, Dave and
others associated with the band, through various precarious situations.
And it's totally fair to criticize someone if you think they made a
bad move. Besides, this is just a newletter of fans of XTC. If we don't
get flustered by our eccentric hero now and then, wouldn't that make him
less than the real person we all admire? He IS a person you know...very
gifted albeit...but not beyond reproach.
They're all heroes and role models to me...have been since I got
interested in them and bought the whole record catalogue in the space of
a year....and they will always be right up there with the Beatles in my
book.
Sincerely,
Steven Graff
"Nero, Nero, on my wall...I love you the most of all..."
------------------------------ Message-ID: <35553491.F7F4194@MCI.com> Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 23:01:05 -0600 From: Jeffrey Langr <Jeffrey.Langr@MCI.com> Subject: moving on personally (and no doubt someone on this list is offended by my post) I'd like to see XTC move on: new name: Dukes of Stratosphear new guitarist: Adrian Belew just my thoughts. J
------------------------------ From: Telehead <Telehead@aol.com> Message-ID: <bd43f710.35554b32@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 02:37:36 EDT Subject: Re: In Loving Memory of a Name Hello Chalksters; I have been reading the digests for over a year now, but sadly this would be my first posting. According to the latest, Colin has packed it in. Somehow I just knew this was coming, not because of any clues dropped but simply realizing that time passes and people change. I got a copy of the demos earlier this year and after repeated listenings thought "Why not a solo album?"; That's what it felt like to me. The fact is that a *band* functions from being a living entity...the band plays live, feeds ideas off of each other and relies on itself to be creative. When an artist's vision becomes independent of that, the band dies and so seems to be the case now. It's a no-fault thing; Dave's my age (46) Andy and Colin a year or so younger. They put in a lot of time and effort into something that in a perfect world would have been as revered as Dylan or The Beatles or whoever you think is the best. It is not a perfect world, and we have been lucky to have had this rare combination for the last 20 years. Ironically, I was talking with my wife earlier this evening about the forthcoming Genesis box set, and how I thought Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford should do the right thing and retire the name; maybe convince Gabriel and Steve Hackett to do a few "farewell" shows in the States and Europe and move on. I suppose that Andy, Colin and Dave couldn't be persuaded to ring up Prarie Prince and do a couple for old time's sake (here in Sacramento, Ca. would be nice), but maybe a cool live video perhaps. In any case, if the band has indeed ended, the music has not. Thanks guys, my life has been better by your existence. Warren Bishop
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From: candlabra@lewiston.com
Message-Id: <l03010d01b17abc15250b@[209.37.93.47]>
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 04:08:50 +0100
Subject: Chill Pill/Crocodile Song
Harrison Sherwood <sherwood@intermetrics.com> wrote
>You may recall a few lifetimes ago--you know, before they changed the
>water--I threw down the gauntlet to my fellow Bedlamites, pointing out
>that "Crocodile" contained a second, "secret" song, and enjoining the
>musically alert among us to Name That Tune.
>All four of you are to be commended highly for your efforts; however,
>none of you actually managed to *name* the song!
I found a couple of sites online that indicated the melody's origin. Seems it
first appeared on the Midway of the World's Columbian Exposition (Chicago
World's Fair) in 1893:
(from http://users.vnet.net/schulman/Columbian/columbian.html) :
"The Midway was the first separate entertainment area deliberately made as a
self-contained entertainment district. ...The Street in Cairo attraction
gave the world the "Snake Charmer" tune (you know it... hum along with me:
"There's a place in France,..... "). The Midway was so successful that it
defined the entertainment district. To this day, entertainment areas at
fairs are known as 'Midways'." (strains of "Dear Madam Barnum" echoing
here...)
Now, the title of the "Snake Charmer" tune, according to a description of
Zappa'a "Grand Wazoo", is "Little Egypt":
(from http://home.istar.ca/~culrich/zappa/72studio.html ):
"... The horns quote "Little Egypt" ("There's a place in France...", not the
Leiber and Stoller song) about ten minutes into the tune..."
However, another webpage describing the 1893 Exposition
(http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA96/WCE/tour2.html) says that "Little Egypt"
was the name of "the hootchy kootchy belly dancer who scandalized many
guests ". Perhaps the tune was named after the dancer?
Anyway, maybe this will help someone to discover the _actual_ name of the
tune. <g>
BTW, the Columbian Exposition was named so in honor of the 400th anniversary
of Columbus' "discovery" of America. Coincidentally, "Nonsuch" (1992)
correlates with the 500th anniversary of the discovery. Go figure. Maybe
there's more to the "carnival" ambience of that record than has been
previously recognized!
with the jaded jealous smile,
Chas
candlabra@lewiston.com
P.S. Here's a bonus question, so everybody put on your Phrygian caps:
"Crocodile" contains a melody that was (apparently) introduced at the 1893
World's Fair. The lyrics to "Crocodile" mention something else that debuted
at the very same Fair - what is it?
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Message-ID: <35563AB3.AE5F7DFE@geocities.com>
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 19:39:31 -0400
From: Troy Peters <troypeters@geocities.com>
Subject: What is that naked ladies tune?
Dear Harrison and fellow Chalk-chuffers,
Here's what I've got on the latest conundrum...
The inimitable Harrison Sherwood wrote:
> I don't know where you get "naked ladies," Buffster (perhaps your
> grade-school recesses attracted a more libertine clientele than
> mine); I'd always heard it as "where the *crocodiles* dance,"
> which, you gotta admit, closes the circle quite neatly.
For what it's worth, it was nekkid ladies at my grade school too.
Always liked that school...
> Yes, the part that is sung over the coda, "Crocodile with your jaded
> jealous smile," is in fact "that" song. Mitch pointed out that
> the great Raymond Scott quoted the same melody in his 1937
> "Twilight in Turkey." And yes, Mark Cuevas correctly points out
> that the tune also appears as the nearly inaudible countermelody
> in the second bridge ("But he's your pet now/You can't run away and
> hide").
>
> But that still leaves us with the correct *identification* of the
> tune, doesn't it.
[snip]
> I don't actually have any fucking idea what the name or origin of
> that song is. I was sort of hoping you'd all be able to tell me,
> actually. I was faking. Whaddya want, your money back?
Well, I am going to work on it some more, but so far, I can tell you
that Charles Ives quoted the same tune is his 1904 piece for string
quartet, "Scherzo 'Holding Your Own,'" a nifty little piece which closes
with a brief polytonal canon on the tune in question. Ives scholars
identify the tune as "Streets of Cairo."
Jan Swafford, in his Ives biography, writes of the young composer
visiting the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago. He says,
"More unequivocally naughty was Little Egypt's hootchy-kootchy show on
the Midway. Her supposedly authentic belly dance was commemorated in
the popular tune 'Streets of Cairo,' which would intimate sin for
generations to come." Later, Swafford writes, "[Ives] slipped 'Streets
of Cairo' into a quartet movement, so maybe he and [his friend] Lyman
had a gander at Little Egypt."
So far, we know that it's called "Streets of Cairo" and dates from
around 1893. We just need to figure out who wrote it. I would bet my
well-worn shirt that the tune's composer could be found in Clayton W.
Henderson's "The Charles Ives Tunebook" (Harmonie Park Press, Michigan,
1990), but I don't have access to that wonderful tome up here in
Vermont.
I'm working on it...
Troy Peters
------------------------------ From: "Lemoncurry" <dieling@hrz1.uni-oldenburg.de> Organization: University Of Oldenburg Comp.Center Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:15:33 MET-1METDST Subject: Re: Mitch Message-ID: <9407E97C1E@hrz1.uni-oldenburg.de> Everyone: Cool down. Mitch: "How would you all feel if someone decides to print out the last four or five digests and mails them to Andy and Dave ? Would you take back what you said ? Too late." Are you threatening us ? Lemoncurry residing in The Lemon Lounge at www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/9259 lemoncurry@geocities.com Yummy !!!
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:26:59 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Clee <cmc@sanger.ac.uk> Subject: Re: garage bands Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980511121146.3332E-100000@piranha> no they're called that here too (brought back memories of the clash that one did...we're a garage band aaaaaaaaahhhhahhhahh we come from garage land.......) ttfn chris ****************************************** Chris Clee
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s556cc9e.045@elsevier.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:00:57 -0400 From: Ralph DeMarco <r.demarco@elsevier.com> Subject: What's Chalkhills For? Dear One Armed Bandits and Affiliated Members: Frankly I am amazed that anyone is complaining that we chalkers are posting too much about Dave Gregory's departure from the band. In my opinion, other than the new songs from the upcoming album, I can't think of any subject worthy of more discussion than the departure of the member of a band that has kept the same trio for 19 years! What could be more important to XTC fans than this? Perhaps you complainers would like more of this: "Hey, I was leafing through the New York Press and one of those trendy staff writers mentioned XTC as an important example of his teenage rock education in the face of the trendy bands of the 70s and 80s. Or, perhaps, the fact that I heard "Humble Daisy" on a local Adult Contemporary radio station! Give me a break. As Mr. Moulding put it "Wake Up!" Dave's departure is important and the subject should not be exhausted until someone (like XTC) fully explains the fact of the situation - not the rumors and speculations (which is all we usually get on the web anyway) by posters who claim to know all the inside information. After all we have been though during this XTC strike and the anticipation of the new albums, you people who think the subject of Dave's departure no longer worthy of discussion...are not facing the realty that the band that you all love soooo much will never be the same and it hurts. Other than "if you like XTC, you'll like..." and the inside networking between XTC fans - what the heck is this site for anyway? Someone tell me? P.S. A hit, a hit, a hit, a glimmer of a hit? - the band needs one - especially now! Can Andy put his mouth where the money is? Can Colin also help rescue the public obscurity of such a great band? Ralphie
------------------------------ Message-ID: <35572F8A.1DE2@schoollink.net> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:04:10 -0700 From: Dan Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> Subject: NOT COLIN TOO!!??!!??!! Damn! Damn! Damn! How much more can a person take? I mean, XTC has been an integral part of my life since God only knows how long ago! Now comes word that Colin has made an exit! Say what?! This is just too much to have to deal with, XTC-people. I was wondering how much longer it would take after DG left until the bottom would just fall out. This is NOT right! It's not FAIR! Why the hell did this have to happen? ...and WHAT exactly happened to make Colin decide to leave as well??? Now we have XTC, aka Andy Partridge. How's this gonna work out? Will it indeed work out or will Andy one day say, "Fuck it! Let's put XTC to rest." Jesus!!! Where does this leave the fans?? Can we all still listen to XTC now without thinking about this mess going on with the recording of the new album and the problems arising to the point where now two-thirds of the band have called it quits? This upsets me!! It's pretty damned evident that this upsets me. But I can't help it. XTC were a damned great band and I hate like hell to see them fade out, you know? Now, it's Andy's turn to make an announcement, I guess. This just totally SUCKS ASS!!! Once again, let the readjustment begin... Long live (the memory of) XTC!!!!! /Dan Phipps *********************************************** "I would have made this instrumental, but the words got in the way." (Andy Partridge) ***********************************************
------------------------------ From: Melsta <Melsta@aol.com> Message-ID: <57e51c5a.35573067@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:07:49 EDT Subject: Et tu? It's just a band. It's just a band. It's not a cure for AIDS. It's just a band. It's just a band. It's just . . . I KNOW IT WAS ONLY ROCK 'N ROLL BUT I LIKED IT!!!!! What's the deal with Colin now? I've been checking the website frantically every five minutes looking for news but none is forthcoming. I've been waiting desperately for the next digest but it hasn't come out yet. If everyone else was like me, you were all sitting, mouth open, in front of the screen unable to move or write in or react. And that's why I'm guessing the next issue hasn't come out. But I've had to come in to work despite the shock and am now a bit more articulate so I think I'll send in a post and hope it helps send the "issue size" over the top so whatever news is stuck hidden in the Chalkhills server can spew out over all of us and we can have another group therapy session. I'm not even going to believe Colin's history till it's confirmed here. My hope is that our esteemed fellow-listmember (and this is no reflection on the messenger, only on the badness of his tidings) has only has it completely 100% chuffed up and, since it's an Abbey Road Studio source he cites, Colin has only left the studio, because he's finished recording, not the band. Is that even possible? And here I was just getting used to the idea of Andy and Colin going it alone, gallantly forging their brave path through the wilds of rock 'n roll. Together. Now just Andy? Take some more getting used to. But now I've said what I came to say. I hope this speeds the next digest along and I hope it bears good news. Even more than that, I just hope it bears news. --Melissa
------------------------------ Message-ID: <B9B4268C8F87D11195DC0000F840FABE0203BFB1@DUB-MSG-02> From: Peter Fitzpatrick <peterfit@MICROSOFT.com> Subject: that Colin joke.. Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:50:22 +0100 I've had a bunch of mails this weekend asking if I know anything about Colin leaving the band... In a word : NO ! I think the chap who posted was having a little giggle at our expense (read the stuff about multiple personalities). of course... I don't have Colin's phone number (cellphone or otherwise) to confirm or deny... so...let's get back to the music. Peter
------------------------------ Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980511190754.006cf090@popmail.dircon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:07:54 +0100 From: Simon Sleightholm <nonsuch@dircon.co.uk> Subject: The Urbane Bassman Neville Farmer called me tonight and as we chatted I mentioned the rumoured departure of Colin as reported in a recent digest. He rang off to investigate and called me back to ask that I make it VERY clear in this list that Colin has _NOT_ left the band. He pointed out that XTC were actually only at Abbey Road for one day and that it's a big place; the current theory is that someone who didn't really know the band has mixed Dave up with Colin. Either that or someone was having a bit of a joke. Ha. Ha. Simon -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- http://www.nonsuch.dircon.co.uk/bungalow.htm (http://come.to/bungalow) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- An XTC resource - "Saving it all up for you..."
------------------------------ Message-ID: <EB3FE924F73DD11187E400805FEA8E8103BB29@BCBCMAIL.bcbc.bc.ca> From: "Macdonald, Robert" <RMacdonald@bcbc.bc.ca> Subject: With all this bad news........ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:37:58 -0700 ....all you can do is crank it up a little louder. I've got the brand spankin' new SLOAN cd "Navy Blues" playing and it ROCKS! For those of you who love British Invasion influenced pop......great playing, great harmonies from Halifax Canada. Two thumbs up. Highest rating. Buy it today...while we wait for Fireworks rocket to launch. Rob.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <355764A9.D8D3EB4E@intermetrics.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:50:57 -0400 From: Harrison Sherwood <sherwood@intermetrics.com> Subject: The Internet and Its Discontents > Message-Id: <v03007801b1777d8f4f01@[134.157.126.147]> > Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 16:13:40 +0100 > From: Adamek Philip <adamekp@paris7.jussieu.fr> > Subject: Colin Moulding calls it quits [Negative Object Lesson in Net.Journalism--whether a troll in egregiously bad taste or an exercise in stunning thoughtlessness remains to be seen--snipped. In any event it has been debunked.] And _that_, folks, is why they tell you in J-School that if you want to work at the better sorts of news outlets you get verification from a *second, independent source* before you report ANYTHING. This couldn't be a more fundamental principle. If you are willing to claim the dubious privilege of disturbing the collective peace of mind with a report of extremely bad news, you had goddamned well better assume a concomitatant responsibility to ensure that your sources are checked and your facts are unassailable. If your information cannot be verified with a second source, you SIT ON IT until such time as it can be. I am willing to believe that you intended to be helpful, that you merely wanted to pass along information you believed to be of interest to the group, but to do so apparently without lifting a finger to ascertain your facts, was irresponsible in the extreme, and no doubt upset many people unnecessarily (myself certainly included). I like to think that the prospect of publicly repeating desperately calamitous news from as flimsy a source as "someone who is connected with Abbey Road Studios" would strike most educated people as _prima facie_ Not a Good Idea, but I suppose my already low expectation of people's innate discretion will simply have to absorb another rabbit-punch. Been quite a reign of blows lately. Posted and mailed. Harrison "wattles flapping" Sherwood
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199805112128.OAA09181@access.tucson.org> From: "J. D. SMX" <jsmelser@access.tucson.org> Organization: Access Tucson Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:37:49 -0700 Subject: Stipey Wipey Hi Chalkfolk, > I don't think anyone called Michael Stipe an asshole, however. Mearly an oversight, I'm sure. But, being pretentious shouldn't make one an A-ho should it? ....in a navajo blanket, JD SMX
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