Chalkhills Digest Volume 4, Issue 128
Date: Thursday, 20 August 1998

         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 4, Number 128

                 Thursday, 20 August 1998

Today's Topics:

        Heyward's "The Apple Bed" Now U.S. Release
            Re: Newsflash..."Swindon's a hole"
                        the tapes
              Assorted Grumblings from Molly
                        Re: Primus
                     Prime-us Time-us
                      Playing Possum
                       Book review
                    Re: Primus / Dexys
                Upsy Daisy vs. Fossil Fuel
                       Re: Sixpence
                      Astronomology
                 Can't wait 'til Jan '99
                 Dexy's Midnight Runners
              A self-serving advertisement.
                   Re: Wait a second...
                   psychadelic parody?
                    scott thunes - xtc
           Review of Niel Finn concert on Yahoo
                       theaudience
                  A Quick Recommendation
                     Allstar article
                       Mojo Rising?
                 September Song (Stories)

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From: wwilson@star.zko.dec.com
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:26:25 -0400
Message-Id: <98081715262564@star.zko.dec.com>
Subject: Heyward's "The Apple Bed" Now U.S. Release

Nick Heyward's "The Apple Bed" is now available in the U.S. as a domestic
release, and includes three bonus tracks. This guy's got tons of hooks,
Beatles overtones galore, and most important he can write songs that
evoke an England of yesterday, as can Andy

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like Stephen Duffy's "I Love My Friends"
will be released on a U.S. label. Too bad because (1) it's very, very
good and (2) Andy's involved in the production of at least two songs.
Stephen Street (Blur) is the main producer. Duffy = quality! What a
songsmith!

I wonder how Colin's fruit growing is proceeding? Anyone heard?

RE: Cotton Mather's "Kontiki" - really like it! I'm glad to see a
few others have picked up on my recommendation. I've been thinking that
the band should be named Kontiki and the album "Cotton Mather."

Wes

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From: PiriyaV3@aol.com
Message-ID: <ac39f0b2.35d8bb86@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:23:46 EDT
Subject: Re: Newsflash..."Swindon's a hole"

Ira Lieman <ira@myself.com> wrote:

> But other than the XTC ties to the town, he said,
> "Ugh, Swindon's a hole." Just thought I'd share it. I
> still want to find out first hand, but I'll take David's advice if I
> ever make it out there.

Hehehe.  I've heard this many times as well.  My sister just got married to
an English fellow, and I went to London last year to visit his older sister.
I mentioned that I wanted to see (make a pilgramage) to Swindon if at all
possible.  My new extended family didn't blink once before laughing their
heads off in my face.  Now I shall never live this one down.  Every time I
see ANY members of my English family (the news spread like wildfire), they
say, "Now where was that awful place you wanted to go...SWINDON?!"  And the
laughing commences yet again.  Needless to say, I till haven't made it to
Swindon yet.  They tell me that they see the exit sign on the motorway, have
a laugh at my expense, and promptly keep on driving.  Ah well...one can only
dream. :)

- Piriya
Minister of Propaganda
http://www.lfc.edu/~vongkpp

"And praise will come to those whose kindness leaves you without debt, and
bends the shape of things to come that haven't happened yet."  -- Neil Finn

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Message-ID: <19980817232744.24524.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:27:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Langr <jlangr@yahoo.com>
Subject: the tapes

>However, according to Andy, initial
>sessions had to be scrapped when the
>tapes were retained by Squeeze's Chris
>Difford following a disagreement over
>time in his studio.

A scene from Boogie Nights comes to mind,
where Dirk & Reed try to get their horrid
tapes ("This stuff is gold, man!") from the
recording studio without paying.  "You
don't understand, we have to sell it to
the record company first and then we can
pay you."  Andy imitates art?

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From: MFa2707621@aol.com
Message-ID: <1dc6ae9a.35d8cdaa@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 20:41:13 EDT
Subject: Assorted Grumblings from Molly

Chalkers,

I read that The Avengers suck, well, I'll find out myself.  I don't listen
to anybody except myself.  I'm a die hard Avengers fan, and I'll find out
myself.  I've heard mixed things about the movie, but let me find out
myself.

Next thing is that I'm a big fan of "cheesy" 80s music.  I'm a huge fan of
Dexy's Midnight Runners, Spandau Ballet, Talk Talk, Duran Duran, and so on.
I don't understand why people bad mouth that kind of music.  I think some
people don't want music to be fun.  They want music to have a message.  I
don't like that all the time.  I grew up listening to this type of music,
and nobody's going to split me and 80s music up.

I WANT THE NEW BOOK!  The date seems to be getting pushed back more and
more.  The next thing we'll know it won't be out until the new album comes
out.  I ordered it from Amazon.com (which is still saying it's coming out in
June).  Has anybody else ordered the book from Amazon.com?

Well, that's all the grumbling for now.  I feel better.

Molly :o)
Molly's Pages
http://members.tripod.com/~MollyFa/index.html

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Message-Id: <v01540b06b1fea0ebe67d@[139.80.101.17]>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:11:13 +1200
From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)
Subject: Re: Primus

Ira Lieman <ira@myself.com> asks

>And they also tell me that they covered "Making Plans For Nigel" in a
>previous album of cover songs. Huh? Have I been living under a rock?

there is a CDEP of covers including Pink Floyd's "Wish you were here",
"MPFN", and about three others (ISTR one of them was a Neil Young track)>
Not bad but oh, the vocals. They just about had me tearing what's left of
my hair out.

James

 James Dignan___________________________________               You talk to me
 Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University               As if from a distance
 ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street               And I reply. . . . . . . . . .
 Dunedin, New Zealand               with impressions chosen from another time
 steam megaphone (03) 455-7807               (Brian Eno - "By this River")

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Message-ID: <19980818043433.13941.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Bob Crain" <bobcrain@hotmail.com>
Subject: Prime-us Time-us
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:34:32 PDT

New (?) XTC Content:

Hey, I'm a little late, but on the subject of early XTC listening...

Walking around in Scottsdale, AZ in the early 80's with a newfangled
contraption called a "Walkman", endlessly listening to compilation tapes
made by my friend of "Waxworks", "Beeswax", and "English Settlement
(+B-sides)" damaged me forever in a good way (ignore that head twitch,
I'm in a "Dance Band", baby!).

The Replies:

>From: Ira Lieman <ira@myself.com>
>
>And they also tell me that they covered "Making Plans For Nigel" in a
>previous album of cover songs.

Primus' version of "MPFN" is a hoot!  Pretty faithful, more funky (of
course), and that guy's voice is even "quirkier" than Colin's!

>From: MFa2707621@aol.com
>
>Now if this thing with Andy and Erika is true, maybe we should do something
>for them.  I'm not sure what though.  If we had Andy's address we could send
>him cards.  I just think we should do something to congratulate them.

That would be lovely!  I'm sure he would appreciate it.  Any official
confirmations of the engagement, friends of Andy?

>From: Adam Tyner <ctyner@clemson.edu>
>
>"He accused me of making a solo album," says Partridge, "and hasn't spoken
>to me since. There's a lot of anger in Dave, and I think he's demonized me
>for not touring [XTC have not stepped on a stage since 1981]." Partridge --
>who has a reputation for being an intractable chap in the studio -- sounds
>genuinely bemused by this turn of events. "We used to be good friends," he
>sighs, adding that the tracks Dave worked on before his quitting will be
>left as they are.

Thanks for the update!  I guess I can forget about seeing Dave reunite
with Andy and Colin on "Sessions at 54th St."

>From: CCooli9575@aol.com
>
>Neil Finn reminds me of what might happen if some mad
>scientist crossed Andy with Glenn Tilbrook of Squeeze(Glenn's perfect pop
>voice and pure pop sensibility, with Andy's tendency to throw a wrench into
>what might otherwise be a very commercial pop song.

Neil Finn is one the finest songwriters in the world today.

>>A band from Brisbane (the 1.5 million-strong city where I live), who
>>made extremely classy pop records in the late 70s/80s, were The
>>Go-Betweens.  Especially look for their 1986 album _Liberty Belle and
>>the Black Diamond Express_.

All the old Go-Betweens stuff has been rereleased in remastered format
with new cover art and liner notes on Beggars Banquet!

>From: Wesley Hanks <whanks@earthlink.net>
>
>In light of the recent Aus/NZ postings, wanted to share the wonderful
>show last night by Neill Finn at the Hard Rock Hotel here in gleaming
>Las Vegas.

Neil's concert here in DC was a knockout as well.  His son is playing
guitar, and doing a really fine job of it too (even better than Patti
Smith's son did at her recent concert here).  Maybe Andy should get
Holly in the band?  Ok, maybe not...

>From: "Brent John Palmer" <brent_palmer@hotmail.com>
>
>XTC will be instead be a special-quality niche market, catering for
>those of us who are (rightfully) oblivious to pop-culture.

Yeah, but Duran Duran came back with some big hits, maybe our
DD-dopplegangers XTC can do the same!

-Bob Crain

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Message-ID: <19980818044521.15098.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Bob Crain" <bobcrain@hotmail.com>
Subject: Playing Possum
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:45:21 PDT

I encourage all fans of good music to check out the new Possum Dixon
release, "New Sheets".  Upon hearing their first epoynmously named
album, I couldn't stop thinking of XTC.  The new one is a cracker.

-Bob Crain

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 02:57:01 -0700
From: "Dean Skilton" <dskilton@england.com>
Message-ID: <IKFEGGIAEJDOBAAA@shared2-mail.whowhere.com>
Subject: Book review

I picked up the latest Mojo magazine, because it has a big feature on Keith
Moon, and in the book review section I found a full-page review of XTC Song
Stories, with a colour photo circa '80-'82. Which was nice.




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Message-Id: <s5d9648f.033@parliament.uk>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:23:46 +0100
From: Dominic Lawson <LAWSOND@parliament.uk>
Subject: Re: Primus / Dexys

Some info for Ira.....

(i) Primus have covered both those XTC tunes, and remarkably well
too. "Making Plans For Nigel" is on a mini-album called "Miscellaneous
Debris" which also features a cover of Pink Floyd's "Have A Cigar", amongst
others. "Scissor Man" is on the new "Rhinoplasty" album which also features
covers of "Behind My Camel" (The Police) and "The Thing That Should Not Be"
(Metallica) along with a Peter Gabriel cover and some other stuff. Both XTC
covers are fairly true to the original, only with Les Claypool's trademark
whining vocals. Apparently the guitarist had a nightmare learning Dave
Gregory's guitar parts, esp. "Scissor Man". Les Claypool's love of "Drums &
Wires" is well documented - Bono once told him that Primus reminded him of
XTC when the two bands played a gig together. Go to www.primussucks.com for
more information!

Rich says:
>the 80's cheese isn't
>badly produced, compared to stuff like Human League and Dexy's
>Midnight Runners. ("Come On Eileen," what did ANYONE see in that song?)

Eh? Are you really saying that Duran Duran were better than Dexy's? I have
to disagree strongly with that one. All of Dexy's three albums are classics,
especially "Searching For The Young Soul Rebels" and the criminally ignored
"Don't Stand Me Down". "Too Rye Ay" is also fantastic, and even though "Come
On Eileen" has been badly overplayed - a staple of every 80s retro disco for
many years - it's still a great song. "Badly produced" is about as
inaccurate as you can get. Duran Duran's records have always been
over-produced and needlessly polished, whereas Dexy's Midnight Runners
always sounded like a dazzling live band, with a full and warm production
which allows Kevin Rowland's stirring soul to shine. Dig out those old Dexys
albums and see what I mean. Classy stuff. Along with the 2 Tone bands (esp.
Specials, The Beat and Madness) and The Jam, DMR were one of the best things
about the early 80s. Duran Duran, on the other hand, tended to suck. A
couple of golden pop moments aside, Fatty Le Bon and chums have contributed
precisely nothing to the world of music. Kevin Rowland remains a vastly
underrated songwriter, and I think XTC fans should be able to relate to
that! Just don't mention "Brush Strokes".......

And finally......
Current Favourites: Iron Monkey "Our Problem" (deeply savage - catch them at
The Albert in Brighton on August 25th, supported by Grindstone, my very own
Metal band), Gang Of Four "Shrinkwrapped", Ganger "Hammock Style" (BUY THIS
ALBUM!!!!!!!)

Salut!

Dom.

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:46:56 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Martin van Rappard <rappard@dds.nl>
Subject: Upsy Daisy vs. Fossil Fuel
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.90.980818144429.17570A-100000@fatima.dds.nl>

After lurking for about a week and reading countless XTC pages, this
seems like a legitimate question: is there (except the track listing) a
difference between the Upsy Daisy Assortment greatest hits collection and
Fossil Fuel one? To my untrained ear they sound different.

Martin
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/1089

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Message-ID: <0143041F00B7D011B7C500A0C90051511738E9@IMA_NT1>
From: "BOB O'BANNON" <BOBANNON@IMAweb.com>
Subject: Re: Sixpence
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:52:07 -0500

>>>Sixpence None the Richer's new single "Kiss Me" has been getting a
lot of airplay here in the Bay Area on 97.3 KLLC (Alice).  Thought you
might be interested in this quote from CMJ New Music Report (April 20,
1998) as they talk to Matt Slocum, the main songwriter:
CMJ: How have your musical influences affected this record?
Matt: For me, U2 and the Sundays are two huge ones. XTC, Innocence
Mission<<<

I own the newest Sixpence album and would vouch for its worthiness,
although the alleged XTC influence is not detectable. All I could pick
up were very strong shades of the Sundays and Smiths. But they are one
of the few Christian bands earning respect among secular audiences. And
"Kiss Me" alone is probably worth the price of the CD.

Bob

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Message-Id: <l03102800b1fe6c772f83@[207.246.54.67]>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:29:27 -0700
From: Ryan Wyatt <wyatt@earthling.net>
Subject: Astronomology

I apologize in advance for the non-XTC content, but with an astronomy
degree hanging on my wall, I can't help but reply to a few of Dignan's
devil's advocations...

>>1) What is the likelihood that one-twelfth of the world's population is
>>having the same kind of day?

>none. Properly calculated (rather than from the throwaway newspaper)
>astrology works out the 12 sun signs, the 12 ascendents, and the locations
>of about ten different 'heavenly bodies', mapping them onto 12 houses. That
>works out at about 12 to the power of 13, or 106,993,205,379,072 different
>possible combinations.

This isn't quite right...

First off, even by your argument, you'd have the Sun, Moon, eight other
planets, and the ascending point (that's 11 "objects" total) mapped onto
12 houses each, which is 12 to the 11th power, or 743,008,370,688.  (That
assumes you ignore Ceres and other major asteroids.)

Now, those 11 objects and such have periods that range from 24 hours
(the ascendents) to 249 years (Pluto).  For anybody alive on Earth (say,
under 120 years old, that reduces

	12 * 12 * 12 * 12 * 12 * 12 * 12 * 12 * 12 * 12 * 12

to

	12 * 12 * 12 * 12 * 12 * 12 * 10 *  4 *  2 *  2 *  2

Which works out to be 955,514,880 days to go around.  So for any given
date, an average of six people worldwide should be having the same sort
of day.  Of course, all six of those people will have been born at roughly
the same local time, etc., making the statistics a little screwy.  For
example, there would be many more than six young people having the same
kind of day, while maybe only one or two older folks sharing *their*
similar day, given that their "day" is a function of when they were born.

(If one also assumes some continutity between times, so that people born
minutes apart do not lead dramatically different existences, then you
start running into problems, IMO.  For Sun signs to have *any* meaning,
this has to be the case...)

>>5) Are all horoscopes done before the discovery of the three outermost
>>planets incorrect?

>being as they are the furthest (known) planets from earth, these planets
>are thought to produce only relatively minor effects. Horoscopes cast
>before that time might have been about 1 or 2% less accurate due to this

I am curious about the 1 or 2% figure.  How would one go about quantifying
astrological effects?

>>7) Why do different schools of astrology disagree so strongly with each
>>other?

>who do economists disagree with each other? Or weather forecasters? Or
>music critics? Whenever there is a practice that involves interpretation of
>a multitude of different factors, there is bound to be disagreement. An art
>is simply a science with too many variables.

And astrology, IMO, is carefully constructed to contain *too many*
variables.  Always someplace to put the blame.  :)

>>If astrology is a science, as its proponents claim, why are its
>>practitioners not converging on a consensus theory after thousands of
>>years of gathering data and refining its interpretation? Scientific ideas
>>generally converge over time as they are tested against laboratory or
>>other evidence. In contrast, systems based on superstition or personal
>>belief tend to diverge as their practitioners carve out separate niches
>>while jockeying for power, income, or prestige.

>again, like economics, politics, psychology, astronomy, meteorology,
>palaeontology... there are damn few sciences where there is no 'jockeying'.
>Are you trying to tell me that all astronomers agree about the origin of
>the universe? Or all palaeontologists agree as to why the dinosaurs became
>extinct?

But the *majority* of astronomers agree to within at least two or three
schools of thought, and even amongst those schools, there are numerous
points of agreement.  Likewise with paleontologists.  That's in part because
communication and error-correcting exists in these disciplines that I am
unaware of existing in the astrological community.

What it really comes down to is that astronomy doesn't actually *test*
its hypotheses, and given that, it cannot be considered a science.  That's
not such a big deal, after all, if one wants to consider it an informed
art or whatever.  But it certainly presents itself as a science to the
layperson.

By the same definition, of course, much of psychology or political
"science" isn't science, either.  :)  I suppose one could test these
disciplines based on predictive power, which is the de facto litmus
test for any scientific theory, but that still doesn't win over the
fields as a whole...  Since astrology is generally practiced as a
predictive "science," however, it lends itself to verification, and
so far as I've seen, doesn't succeed terribly well.

>>9) If astrological influence is carried by an UNKNOWN force, why is it
>>independent of distance?
>>All the long-range forces we know in the Universe get weaker as objects
>>get farther apart.

This is an interesting point because *sometimes* a distance factor seems
to be taken into account (i.e., with the outer planets) and sometimes not.
One can at least assume it's not an inverse square law that astrological
forces would obey...

>>10) If astrological influences don't depend on distance, why is there no
>>astrology of stars, galaxies and quasars?

The periods of change for these various objects would be so long that
it wouldn't make much sense to try including their effect.  However,
I have seen an astrologer argue that the 27,000-year period of the
Earth's precession is reflected in historical changes...  She also
argued that 27,000 years is about the length of time it takes for
light to travel from the center of the Milky Way to the Sun, which
was important for some reason.  Anyway, her approach suggests some
kind of larger effect.

>>Any (unaltered) photograph would have shown the eclipsed Sun against the
>>backdrop of the stars of Gemini, the next constellation over to the west.
>>No one COULD have won this contest. Maybe thousands of years ago the Sun
>>would have been in Cancer, but not today... ooh, that nasty little
>>precession thingy!

>why do you assume that it is the constellation that is important?

I will note that, from what I've seen and read, different schools of
astrology are very inconsistent on this point...  Some take precession
into account; others ignore it entirely.

Astrology made a lot of sense thousands of years ago.  Think about it:
you watch the sky carefully enough, set up a calendar, then you can
start to predict when rainy seasons start, when the best time is to
plant crops, and your quality of life improves!  Then, as a next step,
if you believe your king or pharoah or emperor has a direct lineage
from the heavens, then it only makes sense that these calendrical ideas
would work to predict his future and the future of your kingdom.  Add
a little post-Reformation individuality, and bingo, you've got daily
horoscopes in every newspaper.

It's a slippery slope...  :)

I have a few friends who hold favorable views of astrology, mostly
along the lines of it being an *influence or tendency* in people's
lives.  Like a character trait that one can develop or control...
It's certainly a stance that's hard to argue with.

Ryan.

	[ Enough astrology already. -- John ]

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Message-ID: <35D99C7A.E2838779@ibm.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:23:38 -0400
From: Brian Soloway <bsolowa@ibm.net>
Subject: Can't wait 'til Jan '99

Hello Fellow XTC Fans:

The long awaited arrival of new XTC material will serve a dual purpose.
It will give XTC fans countless hours of listening pleasure and,
hopefully, re-focus Chalkhills back to a music forum and away from such
irrelevant  topics as astrology and religion.  I guess 6 plus years of
no XTC can make one digress.

Brian (First time writer)

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Message-Id: <199808181926.PAA05195@out.epix.net>
From: "Michael Davies" <miser17@epix.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:23:43 -0400
Subject: Dexy's Midnight Runners

> >There are lots of comparisons to be made between XTC and Duran Duran.
> >For a start, both lead singers are male, and both groups released >albums
> >in the 80's.  I don't know why I never noticed the similarities before
> >now.  Maybe it's because one of them is crap.
>
>   Oookay, THAT came out of nowhere! I'm gonna have to defend Duran
> Duran on this one -- sure, they were really cheesy and you could tell
> that most of their songs meant absolutely nothing to them, but IMHO
> the songs are at least fun to listen to, and the 80's cheese isn't
> badly produced, compared to stuff like Human League and Dexy's
> Midnight Runners. ("Come On Eileen," what did ANYONE see in that song?)

hey, he just said "one of them is crap", he might have meant XTC was
crap and Duran Duran was good.  i personally am not sufficiently
familiar with Duran Duran to assess their work, except to say that it
sucks.  except for "Union of the Snake".

and i don't like "Come On Eileen" (unless "on" is meant as a
preposition, but i don't think it is), but it's amusing to hear
people singing along, because does anyone know what the guy sings
after the title?  it's like "La Bamba".  "Come on Eileen, oh a Sway
da bulee"

there's a party going on 'round down here, cruisers creek yeah
Michael davies
miser17@epix.net

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From: RandyXpher@aol.com
Message-ID: <c66208fc.35da03d4@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:44:35 EDT
Subject: A self-serving advertisement.

Hi!  This is Randy Christopher.

You may remember me from such cassette tapes as Chalkhills' Children '96,
Chalkhills' Children '97, and Chalkhills' Originals '98.

To those of you in the Los Angeles area, my band, The Mind Reels (as
featured on CO '98) will be playing a short (20 min.) set at Luna Park in
West Hollywood on Monday, Aug. 24, in conjunction with the International Pop
Overthrow music fest.  We'll be going on at 9:00 PM.  IPO runs from
Aug.21-30 at various venues around town.  Schedules and more info can be
found at:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/cms.cas/ipomain.htm

Come see us if you can.  Identify youself as a Chalker, and I'll give you...
um... something.

Why are we flying all the way out to LA from Ohio to play our first-ever gig?
Because we can't get a gig in Ohio, obviously.

I'm really going to miss Phil Hartman,
RC

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From: nsps@usa.net
Message-ID: <19980818183550.8450.qmail@www04.netaddress.usa.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:35:50
Subject: Re: Wait a second...

>From: Ira Lieman <ira@myself.com>
>
>And look at the review of Primus' new album "Rhinoplasty." Are they
>covering "Scissor Man?" Does this sound weird to you? Does this sound
>like something we would have expected? Am I just dreaming? I know
>I'm really tired but I feel the keys underneath my fingers as I type >this.
>
>And they also tell me that they covered "Making Plans For Nigel" in a
>previous album of cover songs. Huh? Have I been living under a rock?

Well, my pal and Chalkhillian Adam Tyner (who is probably also
replying to this message gave me a URL of some place to listen to the
album (well, just to listen to SM, but it had the whole thing) on Real
Audio. Although the ending kind of annoyed me, the cover was pretty
close to XTC's version, with thicker bass and annoying vocals. Adam
heard Misc. Debris,-although I don't remember how ;)- and said the
Nigel cover was in a similar fashion. But maybe it was the crack and
it was completely different. Anyone else heard it?

-Jeremy Mathews
Nutra Sweet Pixie Sticks
members.tripod.com/~Jeremyly

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Date: 18 Aug 98 20:52:00 -0500
Subject: psychadelic parody?
From: "David vanWert" <mcknife@xsite.net>
Message-Id: <B1FF99FE-19D40@206.126.235.47>

On Mon, Aug 17, 1998 5:22 PM, Rich wrote:
>I just recently picked up a copy of the
>Dukes "Chips From The Chocolate Fireball" CD...I'm gonna have to
>warm up to it more, I think, because only a few of the songs are
>really catching on to me. I'm gonna have to listen to it better, though,
>because I know it's psychadelic parody music

No, it isn't. It's psychadelic, but it's not parody.

David vanWert     mcknife@xsite.net     http://www.xsite.net/~mcknife

"I hate quotations."  Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1849

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Message-Id: <199808191035.MAA23246@sandra3.ctv.es>
From: "Hall of Fame Records" <halloffame@ctv.es>
Subject: scott thunes - xtc
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 12:31:30 +0200

Hola, soy Luis y soy fan de XTC. Escribo en espanol para saber si hay
alguien mas por aqui que lo entienda. Tengo una question desde hace mucho
tiempo que me gustaria que alguien me aclarara. En los creditos del album
Skylarking aparece un tal Scott Thunes y seria feliz si resultara ser el
bajista que estuvo con Zappa durante varios anos pues es un tipo que me cae
especialmente bien. Tambien soy superfan de Zappa, Split Enz, Cardiacs.
Tengo una pequena discografica donde he editado 4 cd's de un tal Malcolm
Scarpa que se me antoja interesante para cualquier fan de XTC. No miento y
podeis comprobarlo escuchando en real audio algunas de sus canciones aqui:
http://www.hallfame.com
saludos. Luis Reynaldo.

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Message-Id: <199808190959.JAA015.10@GATEWAY.TIRERACK.COM>
Subject: Review of Niel Finn concert on Yahoo
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 98 10:00:31 -0600
From: William Loring <bloring@tirerack.com>

For you Niel Finn fans:

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/en/story.html?s=v/nm/19980819/en/review-music-finn_1.html

Back to lurking.

a man of few words...

William Loring                bloring@tirerack.com
The Tire Rack                 http://www.tirerack.com

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From: Iain_Murray@hr-m.b-m.defence.gov.au
Message-Id: <4A256665.008309D9.00@ncc-notes.hr-m.b-m.defence.gov.au>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:54:01 +1000
Subject: theaudience

Mark Fisher mentioned a band called theaudience in Chalkhills #4-121. This
group are now getting a fair bit of airplay on Triple J radio in Australia
- their latest single is called "Penis Size And Cars" (dare I say, a rather
"quirky" title!). Although the lead singer listens to XTC (or "Nonsuch", at
the very least), the group sounds a hell of a lot like The Pretenders -
whether or not that's a good thing depends on personal taste, I suppose....

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From: Iain_Murray@hr-m.b-m.defence.gov.au
Message-Id: <4A256666.00101264.00@ncc-notes.hr-m.b-m.defence.gov.au>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:57:59 +1000
Subject: A Quick Recommendation

Has anyone else heard the new Sparklehorse album yet? It's called "Good
Morning Spider" - find it, buy it, listen to it and shake your heads in
wonder at this fucking brilliant album....

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980819172807.0069f6f4@130.127.28.14>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:28:07 -0400
From: Adam Tyner <ctyner@CLEMSON.EDU>
Subject: Allstar article

Apologies if this has already been posted:

<<

XTC Box Set Possibly In The Works

   XTC In addition to two forthcoming new studio albums, the powers that be
at TVT Records are also rumored to be gearing up for an XTC box set.

   It's not yet determined when the set will come out or what it will
include if the project does indeed come to fruition. Meanwhile, XTC fans
are expecting a new studio album early next year, with another disc due
later in 1999 (allstar, July 13).
   More details to come.

-- Carrie Borzillo

>>
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Message-Id: <s5dbe4a3.091@BTA.ORG.UK>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:28:17 +0100
From: DAVID FATSCHER <dfatscher@BTA.ORG.UK>
Subject: Mojo Rising?

Apologies if fellow Hillsters have beaten me too it, but the latest
edition of 'Mojo' (the one with Keith Moon on the front) has a long
and glowing review of 'Song Stories' (complete with big piccy of the
Lads circa Black Sea)... the book seems exactly as I would have hoped:
full of (hey!) Song Stories and other triv... sorry, anecdotes - and
none of the pseudy socio-cultural 'contextualisation' that marred much
of Iain McDonald's otherwise worthy Beatles tome 'Revolution in the
Head'...

..meanwhile, the latest edition of the Guinness Guide to Pop/Rock (or
some such title) is so 'current' it even refers to Dave's departure
(despite getting other details wrong).

Could this herald a new (and more respectful) interest in the band
from Brit-critics?? No, thought not!

David Fatscher

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Message-Id: <s5dbfa1b.002@BTA.ORG.UK>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 10:27:25 +0100
From: DAVID FATSCHER <dfatscher@BTA.ORG.UK>
Subject: September Song (Stories)

This just in from Sean at Helter Skelter (London book shop and UK
publishers of 'Song Stories'):

"The publication date is now back until the third week of September,
but we should have it here at the end of the first week of that
month. Whatever does happen, we will have copies here about two weeks
before they go on general release."

He also says that they are still hoping to do a signing but have no
further news.

David Fatscher

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