Chalkhills Digest, Volume 3, Number 139 Tuesday, 8 July 1997 Today's Topics: More on the humble "Daisy..." The meeting place was Astor Place Recent picture of boys & guitars Your Financials Short today.... That'll Learn Me to Mind My P's and Q's! instrumental Bridges and the Trent (I must be in Stoke!) martin newell & moscow re: all the blabber about lame bridges AP in Westword stolen bits Re: Shriekback Now everything looks right today... meeting a fellow listmember Raymond Scott Ahem I could't believe my eyes dept. chords to Season Cycle Trent Reznor covering XTC? Re: free speachers RE: Skinny Andy Minature "Ding" But tell us how you REALLY feel... Reel by Jig Administrivia: To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> with the following command: unsubscribe chalkhills For all other administrative issues, send a message to: <chalkhills-request@chalkhills.org> Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to: <chalkhills@chalkhills.org> World Wide Web: <http://chalkhills.org/> The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors. Chalkhills is digested with Digest 3.4 (John Relph <relph@sgi.com>). I got so much to say but I'm afraid it'll come out wrong.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970703162638.00686d70@popmail.dircon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 17:26:38 +0100 From: Simon Sleightholm <nonsuch@dircon.co.uk> Subject: More on the humble "Daisy..." From: fisher@easynet.co.uk (Mark Fisher) >He pointed out that *Always Winter Never Christmas* is a chapter heading in >*The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe* by C.S. Lewis. Martin Monkman provided a neat bit about this for the "Your Dictionary" section of Bungalow if anyone wants more info... (Whose trumpet is this? Oh, mine? Well in that case... *toot*) From: StereoPuff@aol.com >I'm surprised that they hadn't added Rook or Wrapped In Grey onto the end... >they could've sqeezed in one more track if they really wanted to. When the >compilation was originally announced, I was somehow given the impression that >Andy himself was to determine the tracklisting *and* From: FA ken clinger <clinger@duq2.cc.duq.edu> >I just noticed on CD Connection that Geffin has WAXWORKS available as a >domestic release. Would this explain why Upsy Daisy Assortment begins in >1982? Are there any tracks common to both comps? It's a strange mix of songs, indeed, and though I never heard tell of Andy's involvement with the track selection it does make a certain sense - Andy has said that XTC only started to find their feet musically and start growing around the time of Drums And Wires, and this is exactly where UDA track listing kicks off. It excises completely the two albums Andy is least happy with. The only things that make me dubious about Andy having any form of real control over the content are the inclusion of "Dear God", a song he's always been a little unhappy with, and the aforementioned omission of "Wrapped In Grey". I've been thinking more about the cover concept and, while it still makes me giggle, it's a curious piece to be honest. Andy has always used the "sweet" or "dessert" metaphor to catagorise singles as being apart from the "roughage" of the more intricate album tracks, yet here the "sweet" metaphor has been applied to a mix of single and album tracks where it would have suited a "Fossil Fuel" style singles collection a lot better. And yes, I *do* have better things to think about, they're just not as much fun. "...a roof held together with holes..." Simon -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~nonsuch/bungalow.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Food for the thinkers...
------------------------------ Message-Id: <v03102800afe1d4e3ad94@[207.77.26.143]> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:49:49 -0400 From: Ira Lieman <ira@myself.com> Subject: The meeting place was Astor Place Hey there, Thankfully I was able to leave early from work...otherwise you might not be reading this. I met Fellow Chalkies John Baldan and Dean Zemel this afternoon. I know John from before, he's almost a townie. But Dean's in from exotic Milwaukee, Wisconsin, so I felt it was needed to show him how cool record shopping REALLY could be once he was in New York. Well, John had to leave the second I got there, but all that he missed was watching Dean and I spend most of our cash on used cds. I thought I had a broad range of music I listened to. I was wrong. Dean's interests cover the gamut. And he made *ME* purchase 3 or 4 or so on recommendation alone. But I respect that. I bought a number on my own volition. (And finally I have Adam Ant's "Room At The Top" on disc. Yay!) Dean's a pretty cool fellow, imho. Of course, he'll be the first person to say that he's never met an internet-friend he didn't like, but I'll surely be the second. The funnier thing that happened, was I walked into my apartment at 5 pm. And the phone starts to ring. It's Ben Gott. Who says hi to everyone, by the way. Oh well. It's always fun to meet fellow Chalkies like Dean and John (and Ben), so if anyone's ever in New York, let me know so I can use you as an excuse to plunk another $50 down on cds at Sounds. L8r. -ira
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970703194818.0069c384@pppl.gov> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 19:48:18 -0400 From: Tobin <tmunsat@pppl.gov> Subject: Recent picture of boys & guitars >In Sunday's Houston Chronicle was a review of the Upsy Daisy > >two of them had guitars, one guitar was that odd-shaped type that >was popular in the mid 60's and with band like The (English) Beat. In the "The Onion" photo (http://www.theonion.com/avclub3121/avfeature3121.html) it looks like Dave is holding a Vox Phantom. Is this what The Beat used? I never knew... For some reason I thought all those 80's ska bands played Rickenbackers. -Tobin
------------------------------ Message-ID: <33BC4AF2.30E3@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 17:59:30 -0700 From: Wesley Hanks <whanks@earthlink.net> Subject: Your Financials ... and now the closing market prices on 7/3/97 for Best Buy... Upsy Daisy $9.99 O&L $5.99 O&L Gold $19.99 TBE $5.99 Nonsuch $5.99 Skylarking $8.99 Compact XTC $23.99 Explode Together $18.99 and in related markets "ok computer" by Radiohead closed at $10.99. Burning with optimism's flame, Wes
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199707040158.SAA05765@mail.eskimo.com> From: "Matt Keeley" <mrme@eskimo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:57:23 +0000 Subject: Short today.... Hello... > From: Stormy Monday <stormymonday@sprintmail.com> > WHEN THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO GET A NEW XTC RECORD TO WRITE ABOUT? "NO > LANGUAGE IN OUR LUNGS" WAS RECORDED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO! Oh, well, it was only 17 years ago.... that's not too bad...heh... BTW, as to correct the whole Wrapped in Grey marathon of last message, I actually did go up to 4 hours, and then I listened to Nonsuch again today... I'm still not sick of that song! Ah well, that's this world over... Matt -=>Matt Keeley mrme@eskimo.com<=- Living Through | Visit my home page Another | http://www.eskimo.com/~mrme Cuba -- XTC | I used to be temporarily insane! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now I'm just stupid! -- Brak (ICQ UIN: 1455267, Name: MrMe) Yeah.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <l03102801afe2312a3bc4@[146.6.72.30]> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:49:55 -0600 From: jason garcia <h.h.name@mail.utexas.edu> Subject: That'll Learn Me to Mind My P's and Q's! >Playing in my head: The Stereotypes - Blur That's a good song. Too bad I didn't listen to it before I posted. Jason
------------------------------ Message-Id: <v01540b02afe26865a126@[139.80.100.151]> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 16:22:38 +0700 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: instrumental >>>>After 15 years or so of listening to "No language in our lungs" I >>>>suddenly realise that "I would have made this instrumental but the words >>>>got in the way" can be read as "I would have made this effective >>>>but...". I'd always thought this was one of the clumsiest lines in >>>>XTC's repertoire, but I've suddenly gained a lot more respect for it! > >Listening to the song, I could swear he's singing, "I *wrote this out* >as instrumental, but the words got in the way." Am I just mishearing it? my point exactly. That's how I've always heard it up until last week - then I realised that Andy's punship might be coming into play again, and he was saying this song would have been instrumental - i.e., could be of more use for the purpose that he was trying to put it to, if it wasn't for having to conform to the strictures of the language. It's the old Sapir-Whorf philosophy, that we can only express the things our language allows us to, and because of that we stop thinking in other ways. James PS - I know that "instrumental" and "effective" are not good synonyms in all cases. However, to say "this song was not instrumental in putting across my ideas", whcih is what Andy appears to be saying as far as I can see, is the same as saying it was not effective.
------------------------------ Message-Id: <v01540b0bafe271c1d413@[139.80.100.151]> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 16:25:33 +0700 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Bridges and the Trent (I must be in Stoke!) >Last thing, song bridges: oddly, I had always assumed the usual rule was >that Andy wrote poor bridges. While there are certainly exceptions >(Miniature Sun.... ohhhhhh...) there are a lot of examples of it. "I Can't >Own Her," for example, completely falls down at the bridge. And I know >there are others, although I can't think of them at the moment, sadly... oh, no! Consider such excellent bridges as All of a Sudden, and Paper and Iron, which would be infinitely inferior if not for the bridge. Then there's "Then she appeared", "Towers of London", the list goes on and on. Most importantly, Senses Working Overtime, where the melody of the bridge so cleverly and beautifully mimics the melody of the church bell chime mentioned in the chorus. BTW - why does nobody ever mention that great song "Paper and Iron" here? Doesn't anyone else like it? (I bet Trent Reznor could do a good version of it :) James
------------------------------ From: monnickj@ubk.co.uk Message-Id: <199707041043.LAA05014@sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:46:56 +0000 Subject: martin newell & moscow Martin Newell Some of you may already know this but Martin Newell publishes a poem in the tabloid part of the Independent newspaper every Friday. Moscow Can anybody offer any ideas Moscow ? I'm off there for a few days starting Sunday 13th July. adeus Jon *---------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed are of the individual, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The United Bank of Kuwait PLC. *----------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ Message-Id: <9707041540.AA17324@axtx0060.scent.mccaw.com> From: steve mcallister <steve.mcallister-next@attws.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 97 10:40:11 -0500 Subject: re: all the blabber about lame bridges hello again from Austin TX, Bridges seem to me to be the bit of the song that goes somewhere else (hence the term 'bridge'). Sometimes it's a beautiful lovely powerful place; sometimes frightening; and sometimes everything breaks and falls into the water. Arguing about what bridges are good or bad or wet is useless - we all go someplace different on them. AP is a great writer, to argue that some of his bridges are great and others not is, well, like arguing that some of van Gogh's paintings have neat colors and others are somewhat drab. It's all about the effect the artist wants to create and the perception of viewer (listener). I shall edit myself and stop now. Otherwise I'll keep going on 'n' on 'n' on. sm
------------------------------ From: stewart@bigmon.boulder.co.us (Stewart Evans) Subject: AP in Westword Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 13:08:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <9707041310.aa03028@bigmon.boulder.co.us> There's an article on XTC, with brief Partridge interview, in this week's Westword. Westword is a Denver alternative-weekly newsrag; those of you outside the Front Range can find an electronic analog at www.westword.com. Not affiliated etc. -- Stewart * ---------------------------------------------------------- "My mind's a hand grenade. Catch." -- Ice-T Stewart Evans - stewart@bigmon.boulder.co.us - Boulder, CO * ----------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ From: kekkone@sci.fi Message-ID: <33BE2C38.2E08@sci.fi> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 04:12:56 -0700 Subject: stolen bits From: bmilner <bmilner@netcom.com> > Has anybody noticed that on that otherwise silly Jill Sobule single "ship > comes in" <-- ? Jill pulls a major XTC moment on the bridge. I wouldn't know about this, but it reminded me of another swipe in another direction. Or maybe it's a "tribute"... I don't know, and forgive me if this has been discussed earlier, but the bridge of "King for a day" ("You're only here once... ") has clearly been lifted from the chorus of "We can work it out" by the B-tles ("life is very short... "). The melody's the same, although in a different rhythm, and some of the lyrics ["... fuss and fight...") match almost exactly. So I sippose it must be an intended hat-off to McCartney, given the overwhelming Beatles influence on XTC. From: Steed <todzilla@indo.net.id> > As for Colin's bass playing, it sounds fine to me, great even. Who cares if > he can jam with Weather Report? Right. I'd be really worried if Colin *wanted* to jam with Weather Report. Kekkone
------------------------------ Message-ID: <6dKotSArsYvzEwKd@emdac.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 00:45:47 +0100 From: Phil Hetherington <phil@emdac.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Shriekback In message <v01540b00afde6e2c6ceb@[139.80.100.151]>, James Dignan <james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz> writes >>>By the way, is anyone else on this list as keen as me to see Shriekback's >>>"Tench" made available on CD? >> >>Yes! Though I'd say <<Jam Science>> was more important... >> >>Some of the tracks off 'Tench', 'Care' and 'Jam Science' are available >>on various compilation CDs though. > >Huh? Care *is* available on CD - I have a copy! My mistake... though it was only CD issued in Australia, and is pretty hard to track down on this side of the world. I have one though, so I don't know what I was on about. > I must say, though,m that >on my list of CDs that should exist but don't, Jam Science is right at the >top of the list (alongside Joe Jackson's "Mike's Murder" soundtrack and >Edgar Froese's "Ages"). Since there are two distinct mixes of the Jam >Science album, it could come with its very own set of bonus tracks, too! >Perhaps it is this fact, though (that it was released by two different >companies) that keeps it from the shiny silvery plastic. Not so, as the Dutch release (on Y records) was very much without the bands authority - when I told Barry that, finally, I'd tracked one down, his reaction was something like "I hope you destroyed it". The wounds still haven't healed, it seems. Basically, Y Records ran out of money, so Shriekback signed to Arista to finish off the album, then Y released what were basically unfinished demos in order to make some money. Anyway, the only thing stopping a CD issue of Jam Science is Arista Records - they could release it tomorrow if they wanted to. All but three tracks are on other CDs though (one of those is the album mix of 'Hand On My Heart', but various single mixes have been on CD). Incidently, there are two versions of 'Care' too, as the US version had "My Spine (Is The Bassline)" and "Accretions" in place of "In: Amongst" and, er, somethine else whose name escapes me. Apparently Shriekback were told that the American market needed a "loud side" and a "quiet side", so again the UK/rest of world version is the "proper" one. Whilst on the subject, does anyone have either a CD single of 'Get Down Tonight' or a 'Jungle Of The Senses' UK video going spare? Cheers, -- _ |_) |_ * | My web page: http://www.emdac.demon.co.uk/phil/ | | ) | | Shriekback web pages: The above + shrkindx.html ===========
------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970703222834.369f0718@cyber1.servtech.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 22:28:34 From: Chaos Harlequin <harlequin@tmbg.org> Subject: Now everything looks right today... >BTW, Karl and Mitch aren't doing very much to dispel the >lumbering-ignorant-male-who-can't-do-his-own-clothes-shopping myth we >hear so much about. Read up on cotton fabrics, gents ( ;- )> Hrmph. My t-shirt fits perfectly. :) >Alright, I want everyone who knows who is playing on the demos to stand up. >My feeling is that the XTC demos are XTC and not ANDY. Please correct me if >I'm wrong. Andy said that the demos are all him, with no Colin or Dave participation whatsoever. >Hello... nothing much to say, except that I thought I'd share with >you that I've been listening to Wrapped in Grey for 3 hours straight, >and still counting... and I say it's got to be one of the most >beautiful songs ever written, by XTC or anyone... Truly. As I mentioned once before, I put this song on once for a group of thirty people, after a rather draining gut-spilling sharing session, and they were blown away. Several people came up to me afterwards and asked me what that wonderful song was... so I dutifully gave them the album and song name. But yes, great song. Some of Andy's best lyrics, certainly, and one of the only songs I could truly call "inspirational" without gagging. >Concerning Andy's bridges: Yeah, I'm occasionally >dissappointed by them. Total agreement with whomever >said 'I can't Own Her' falls flat there. Andy makes the cardinal mistake of trying to *explain* the song within the song. "It's nothing at all to do with moneeeeeeeyyyy"? Jeez. >Lots of those Mummer bonus tracks and O&L songs do that, >too. They're often so NOT subtle. Exactly. They try to sum up the whole song for us in that one small section, and end up beating us over the head with it. >Sometime, though, they pitch the song into another realm, >like 'No Language in Our Lungs.' Agreed -- the NLioL bridge is excellent. I mentioned Miniature Sun already (ohhhhh...) and, while I suppose it's not really a bridge (since it's repeated twice) the "manimals" section of "Jason and the Argonauts" is also amazing. >One thing I really hope for from a new XTC record deal is some >genuine new B-sides. Agreed. Not to knock the Skylarking and Nonsvch demos, of course -- "Always Winter Never Christmas" is good and I'm a big fan of "My Paint Heroes" -- but something recorded by the whole band would be nice. But, as you mention, with 40+ songs saved up now, I would fully expect to get some nice extras on the first single... Josh /---------------------------Joshua Hall-Bachner---------------------------\ | harlequin@tmbg.org http://www.servtech.com/public/particle/ | | "We all have our idiosyncracies -- maybe thinning hair, or gum disease."| \---- Kowanko, "Will You Come To?" ------ Thank You, And Goodnight. ------/
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199707051159.EAA16049@f78.hotmail.com> From: "Katrina_and_ Scott" <kajustin@hotmail.com> Subject: meeting a fellow listmember Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 04:59:43 PDT Greetings! I met with fellow Chalkie, Cheryl a couple weeks ago and it was really nice. We went out to a coffee shop and discussed many things, mostly XTC. It was nice hearing a first-hand account of the convention! I told her about the chat with Andy and we discussed other things as well. We'll have to do it again soon. I was walking home from the library a couple days ago and saw a copy of the 3D EP in the window of a small record shop. They also had lots of 7 inch singles, including Great Fire. Is this rare? It was only #4. Many singles were only #2. I can't remember if this has been discussed, but I saw a CD copy of Nonsvch and the cover was solid red - is this what the UK release looks like? I hope this isn't in the FAQ as I am very limited on my time on the computer. One last note, if anyone is interested: Of the CD's I brought, I decided to include ES, O&L, Nonsvch, and Mummer from XTC. I regret not bringing the Giant Peach songs, but I have no tape player w/ me. 'til next time, -Scott Haefner
------------------------------ Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970705163234.00689d70@popmail.dircon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 17:32:34 +0100 From: Simon Sleightholm <nonsuch@dircon.co.uk> Subject: Raymond Scott Did I miss this or is it new? I was trundling around the internet, with my hat tipped back and my arm out of the window when I hit on the Raymond Scott page. It's a wild page about a wild guy - he composed music not *for* cartoons, but which was adopted and used by Warner Bros for many of their animated shorts. I've heard his music praised far and wide, but on the title page I found this :- "What can you say about a man who inspired cartoon melodies and bebop, invented Frank Zappa and electronic music, and still found time to work for Motown?" - Andy Partridge, songwriter & leader of XTC I should have known this was Andy's kind of guy... The page is at http://users.aol.com/DevilDrums/RS.html if you're interested. Apologies if this has been covered before, Simon -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~nonsuch/bungalow.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Food for the thinkers...
------------------------------ From: "Lee Lovingood" <lvngoods@beachlink.com> Subject: Ahem Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:48:56 -0400 Message-Id: <19970705224553.96c99a70.in@mail.beachlink.com> Chalkaholics, Lurk, lurk, lurk. It is all I do! Don't any of you live-in posters have day jobs? I barely find the time to read the digests much less post. Well, low and behold, I have a moment...you lucky people. I normally get paid for doing this. One thing I wanted to mention is that as many times as I have read the posts and have heard countless artists recommened, likened to or spoken of, but there has been very little mention of one of pop musics greatest songwriters. In case you haven't guessed it by now, I am speaking of one Elvis Costello. Okay, so his songwriting is merely akin to Andy's by genre or era, more or less. Geographically to an extent as well, I suppose. Then again, these are two different styles altogether. While both have a rapier wit about them, Andy tends to reside on a more elevated plain, while King Elvis tends to put more of himself and his life experiences into the tales he weaves. Still, with all of these differences, the two are the undisputed kings of their respective niches. I am not bugged by the lack of Elvis mentions; much. Lord knows I have seen mentions of bands in these postings which I wouldn't give a second listen to, even on a chalkies recommendation, but hey, to each his own. It just strikes me as odd that a lot of us, myself included, were probably into Elvis around the same time we discovered XTC, and yet, I rarley hear mention of Costello. What up wit dat? (Elvis, like Andy, sometimes get's the feeling that no one is hearing him, so I have taken it upon myself to try to recruit the right people, and I could think of no better place to start than Chalkhills.) By the way, here are a few other songwriters who are largely ignored, but geniuses Nonsuchtheless....... Paul Weller Paddy McAloon Tracy Thorn and Ben Watt Todd Rundgren (Stop that hissing!) Rickie Lee Jones (Up until her new album, which is a bitter pill to swallow, let me tell you!) Marty Willson - Piper Lloyd Cole Los Lobos (A collective effort) Barenaked Ladies (Ditto) Todd Park-Mohr Oh, I could go on and on, but alas, it is midnight and I am in the air at six a.m. I think I shall start tomorrows show with "Little Lighthouse" and go directly into "The Element Within Her." Ah, the life of a star! (snicker) Haven't figured out how to make a cool sig file yet, nor do I have time, so I leave you with the thought of the day........ As my brother used to say..."Every wave is a new wave!" How right he was, and boy, could we use a new wave!?! Goodnight A.P. Wherever you may be. ( You too, E.C.!) Think for yourselves! Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
------------------------------ From: gravity@loop.com Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970705234550.0068902c@pop.loop.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 23:45:51 -0700 Subject: I could't believe my eyes dept. >From the brain cell of john murphy Hey Kids Sat.July 5th.Burbank California.11:00 p.m. Decided to go to local Virgin Megastore to see if they might have Fossil Fuel in their import section. As I walked in I noticed one of their listening stations had a slightly familiar looking album cover. Lit up in all it's colorful plastic and leaping sheep glory over a pair of headphones,you guessed it, Upsy Daisy Assortment. Virgin actually has given our heroes their own little space for you to go and sample the new(old) XTC wares. Sandwiched between Notorious B.I.G. and Sheryl Crow (or something like that i was too stunned to notice). It really makes me wish for the new stuff. I bought UDA for the unbelievable price of $7.99. I would like to get my hands on some of those demos that i hear so much about. Would any one care to help me out. I have little in the way of seriously interesting stuff. I have a few gems,like Ray Davies last tour.The one where he reads from his book and does some tunes mostly from Village Green,and Arthur. Great show from the Henry Fonda Theater. I tried to do this privately before with not much luck. I won't name names.(thanks ira!) If I can't find some new stuff soon i'll offer MY ears up for a Mike Tyson happy meal. "Stand up naked and grin" jm
------------------------------ Message-ID: <y$mBXAAYjAwzEwQk@wordsrus.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:06:32 +0100 From: Tim Harris <tim@wordsrus.demon.co.uk> Subject: chords to Season Cycle I'd hoped someone with theoretical skills might have attempted this one by now! - trial and error on a keyboard got me this far, some of the D bits have more complicated harmonic things happening that others may care to develop - and the ?s still need attention - but it works overall! (transpose keyboard down 5 semitones to match CD) D A/D D A/D Season cycle moving round and round D A/D D A/D Pushing life up from a cold dead ground B7 E7 B7 E7 Its growing green Its growing green E7+ A E Fdim D well Darling dont you ever stop to wonder A E Fdim D about the clouds about the hail and thunder A E Fdim D about the baby and its umbilical B7 D who's pushin the pedals on the season cycle (Summer chased by autumn) ..... (Autumn chased by winter) Season cycle go from death to life (winter chased by springtime) Bring a harvest or a man his wife (springtimes turning) Its growing green its growing green well Darling dont you ever sit and ponder (darling did you ever think) about the building of the hills a yonder (all this life stuffs closely linked) Where were going in this verdant spiral Whos pushing the pedals on the season cycle D A G D C Fdim Round and round and round and (round) E E7 A A7 (Ab) I really get confused on who could make all this in a (day) Ab Ab/Gb Ab/F Ab/Eb Dbm Db everybody says join our religion get to hea--ven Db7 Bb Eb ? I say "no thanks why bless my soul I'm already there" D A D A .... ? Do do do do do..... D/A Bm Autumn is royal As spring is clown Am7 Abdim D ? But to repaint summer They're closing winter down A E Fdim D Darling did you ever stop to wonder (darling did you ever think) A E Fdim D About the clouds about the hail and thunder (all this life stuffs closely linked) A E Fdim D About the baby and its umbilical B7 E Whos pushing the pedals on the season cycle E+ ... well Darling dont you ever sit and ponder (darling did you ever think) about the building of the hills a yonder (all this life stuffs a closely linked) Where were going in this verdant spiral Whos pushing the pedals on the season cycle (Whos pushin, whos pushing, whos pushin yeah) ....... -- Tim Harris
------------------------------ Message-Id: <s3c0b677.068@ic.si.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 09:28:34 -0400 From: Beth Wojiski <WOJISBE@ic.si.edu> Subject: Trent Reznor covering XTC? Hi all! Just got back from vacation, and am catching up on my backed-up Chalkhills digests. Anyway, I had to put my two cents' in: Julian Cook wrote: Maybe this has been mentioned but wouldn't Trent do a great version of "Complicated Game"? Yes yes yes! I can totally envision what this would be like. As a fan of both artists, I think it's really cool that Reznor likes XTC. Anyway, now that I've responded, I think I"ll go back and continue catching up. It's good to be back.... Beth :-)
------------------------------ Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Raymond_James_Co%l=MAIL-970707154106Z-981@mail.rjconsult.com> From: Ed Miller <emiller@rjconsult.com> Subject: Re: free speachers Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:41:06 -0600 Regarding Eric Rosen's post in the last issue.... I guess I should be ready for anything when I read a disclaimer at the beginning of a post stating a lack of XTC follows, but this is over the edge IMHO. If I want to read about barbecued children or hear the real audio of the related trial or BBC story or whatever, I'm definitely not going to look for that info on Chalkhills. There are plenty of better places on the net for that kind of stuff. I'm sorry to those free speachers out there, but the page down key does not work in this case. I guess you got your shock effect, Eric. Take it somewhere else, please. Anybody else wanna back me up on this (or argue with me, for that matter?) Sincerely, Ed Miller
------------------------------ From: Legett RD Lore Guilmartin <loreg@godzilla.tamu.edu> Subject: RE: Skinny Andy Date: Mon, 07 Jul 97 14:07:00 C Message-ID: <33C1315A@godzilla.tamu.edu> >From: "Mark Rushton" <mail.mindspring.com@mindspring.com> > >In Sunday's Houston Chronicle was a review of the Upsy Daisy >Assortment along with a picture of the band. ... >The interesting thing is that Andy looked like he was in very good >shape! He looked in the last decade like he was beginning to pack it >on, lose the hair, etc etc. But in the photo he looked trim and >fit, so did everybody else in the band. I noticed the same picture but had a different take on it, as I immediately became concerned about Andy's health! Compared to previous pictures he looks positively gaunt! I'll second Mark's request: Does anyone have any information on this? On a more positive note, now I have a picture to clip out and post on my refrigerator, adding to my shrine to Geeky-Looking yet Brilliant Musicians (Lyle Lovett, Alan Fudge, etc.). :-) Lore G lore@tamu.edu
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199707071825.LAA10879@sgi.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:29:14 -0700 From: hbmus047@email.csun.edu (Ian Dahlberg) Subject: Minature "Ding" Eric Rosen: >It's reassuring to discover that I'm not othe only one experiencing the >triggering of MSun horns when PMacs power up. >Any of you "perfect pitch" people figured out what chord that is? Ian D? I think it's a D min 11 or something. A programming friend sez that Stanley Clarke wrote that chord for Apple. Imagine, a commission to write a start-up "ding!" I don't quite hear "Minature" horns in that but to each his own. my now preferred email address, according to my provider is: ian.dahlberg@csun.edu despite what it says above
------------------------------ From: fstolzenbach@exmail1.hns.com Message-ID: <852564CD.007A1188.00@exmail1.hns.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:29:04 -0400 Subject: But tell us how you REALLY feel... Okay, let me begin by warning everybody that THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS, THOUGHTS, OR OPINIONS ON XTC! The following vitriolic screed was posted on a bulletin board decicated to the band Jellyfish, which I'm sure many of us Chalksters are fans of (pardon dangling participle). I never realized how spoiled we are in the safe Chalkhills haven -- Amanda-bashing notwithstanding. Seemingly, by comparison to the real world out there, we're a well-behaved, sensible, altogether friendly bunch. I just thought fellow chalksters would get a kick out of this almost hateful response to a well-meaning XTC fan's post to the Jellyfish list. In the interest of not starting an inter-mailing list flame war, I'm not going to print this person's e-mail address. Just sit back, relax and enjoy. Or alternately, clench your fists and grind your teeth. HERE GOES -- REMEMBER, I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ROLLER-COASTER-RIDE RANT! DON'T FLAME ME, PLEASE! Oh please. I didn't want to get involved in this thread but now I have to chuck in my two cents. I had heard that XTC was what I should be listening to. People were going "sounds like XTC" when I played them "Author Unknown." So I borrowed "English Settlement" and one other earlier disc and listened to "English Settlement" all the way through. I can't remember the last time I have worked so hard to restrain myself from ejecting a disc midway through. This was worse even than "Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet." Talk about flogging a mediocre idea to death. Anytime they did something even remotely novel or interesting they would then do it again and again and again until I began to despise it. It was like they found a turd in their diaper and wanted to spread it proudly on the wall. And neither the music nor the "lyrics" were what I would consider "complex," not by a longshot. Just relatively untalented people fucking about and dressing it up as a great artistic accomplishment. Too British? How insulting to the British. I returned the second disc unlistened. This is something I almost never do. How's everybody's blood pressure? -- FS p.s. -- the product launch that's kept me out of the studio wraps up at the end of the month. I should be able to get the Chalkies originals tape out soon thereafter. Thanks, as always, for your patience.
------------------------------ Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=SELECT_Software_%l=SELECT_OX_MAI-970708122706Z-2157@sst.star.co.uk> From: Catherine Sweeney <Cather-s@selectst.com> Subject: Reel by Jig Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:27:06 +0100 Just out of curiosity, have any of you got any suggestions re the following idea. I play the tin whistle, and am hoping to launch into learning the Uillean pipes. I think it would be interesting to arrange an XTC song and add an Irish slant to it. I just wonder how it would come out, really. I like to amuse myself in those stressful moments at work pondering over the possibilities of turning Reel by Reel into a jig. Or something. Anyone got any suggestions as to an appropriate XTC composition with which to tamper? I'm just entertaining myself here, you can e mail me separately if you like. BTW - I always thought the bass line in "One of the Millions" was reminiscent of Celtic groups I've heard over the years. Can't explain why. But there you go.....
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