Chalkhills Digest Volume 3, Issue 100
Date: Thursday, 17 April 1997
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 3, Number 100
Thursday, 17 April 1997
Today's Topics:
JES goes on tour
Rants & Raves 2
Andy Quotes
Roaches on Video
Wow, what response!
Blur
No more tape requests please!
XTC live shows ???
All the world is football shaped
Re: Swindon
Ben Folds Five at Irving Plaza NYC 4/28
Several Sacred Objects
Oranges and Ages
We are Shaggy and Hairy and Fuzzy
Chalkhillers/Penn/XTC/EC
Heathen speaks to kill his own boredoM
All of a Sudden
The dubbed experiments
Re: XTC Discussion at BFF concert
ok, i'm an idiot...
More Rifff/Andy Information
STOP THE MADNESS
Too many cooks spoil the kitchen.....
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970415173535.00665c08@pop.mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:35:35 -0400 From: JES <xtc@mindspring.com> Subject: JES goes on tour Well, its been a long, long time since I posted something to this group, but there have been a great number of changes in this world over, and its time to de-lurk and let the folks know that Ive managed to survive the changes with a minimum of scarring. Not without the occasional run-on sentence, but you get the drift. Warning, this post has less than 30% XTC content. But its less filling, tastes great. Let me start by saying that my Top Ten Lists will resume soon. My last one (The Ten Albums That Would Drive My Ex-Wife Crazy) went over like a lead brick, so Im taking suggestions from people who like my writing as to what topics I should cover in future Top Ten Lists. If you are unfamiliar with my web page, just have a peek at it and let me know what could be done to fix it up. Second, I have made the difficult decision to pull up stakes and move to Charlotte (a wonderful little city on the southern edge of Upper Carolina) to work for a rather large and excellent architectural firm known as Little & Associates, Architects. I will miss Atlanta because Im completely familiar with it. I have lived here, off and on, for the past 22 years. But I will NOT miss the traffic (so congested that an accident on the downtown connector can be felt in Chattanooga). My new apartment will be a mere 10 minutes from my office, which is actually within biking distance. Wow. Therefore, if any of you wonderful Chalkies are within the sound of my voice in Charlotte, NC, then give me a holler as I will be more than happy to correspond with you about the various good and bad points of living in the land of Helms and NASCAR. (There, I bet you never thought you would actually see the word NASCAR used twice in a Chalkhills post!) I will be interested in playing in some bands, drinking some home-brew, running some marathons, and riding my bike through the mountains of NC. Now, for some XTC related text. I was amused to read that someone actually attempted to relate the Ballad Of Peter Pumpkinhead to the Pope who died in 1978. I find it amusing in the same way that I found it amusing that 39 people decided to off themselves to join the large object following Chris Farley.... Uh, I mean Hale-Bopp. In other words, there seems to be no end to those who would preach conspiracy and then attempt to convert totally unrelated coincidences to their obsession. Dont get me wrong.... I do not doubt that the story about the Popes mysterious death COULD be true. And, since Im neither Catholic nor am I motivated to suggest that the Catholic church is corrupt and avaricious, I have no point to make with regard to the story. I dont care, personally. But, I do care that someone has taken the time and effort to attempt to correlate the story with Andys rather benign and generic song. I can blow the theory out of the water simply by suggesting that Peter Pumpkinhead was "nailed to a chunk of wood" while Pope John Paul I died in his sleep. The truth is that there are too many people out there who find their little obsessions about certain things and then try to introduce "conspiracy" theories in places where they dont belong. I used to work FOR (not WITH, big difference at raise time) a man who was quite hung up on the idea that the Catholic Church is the Whore Of The Revelation (its a book in the Bible, look it up) and found my disinterest and disbelief in his fanatical obsession to be problematic. He was a nutball and was CONSTANTLY trying to find ways to "prove" to me that the Catholics (along with Jews, blacks, Masons, The Coca-Cola Company, and anyone who eats pork) were agents of Satan. And the fact that I didnt agree with him meant that I, too, was an agent of Satan. (The problem with this guy was simple: he was a nut, but he was a talented engineer too. You hire people to do a job, and they perform admirably, so you cant get rid of them for being a nut. He never went postal, ysee, so he was harmless. Except to me, when my annual review came out and he constantly gave me evaluations that I considered to be less than accurate. Guess why I dont work there anymore?) Anyway, I hope I made my point. I hope I HAD a point.... other than the one on the top of my head. Someone had the balls to ask about the Roches. Wow. Ive been in love with any or all three of these incredibly beautiful, talented, demented, twisted, happy, and angelic Goddesses since I first heard them in a bar in Atlanta Georgia in 1978. I tried to attend every concert that I could, although I missed a few when I was living in Hell, uh... I mean Columbus Georgia. I can see how Chalkies could dig them too, so allow me to suggest the following three albums. "The Roches" is the Robert Fripp produced debut of the trio (Maggie and Terre recorded an album with Paul Simon producing prior to that), and features some of my very favorite Roche songs: "Quitting Time," "The Train," "We," and "Hammond Song" are all concert staples. Their third album, "Keep On Doin" was also produced by Fripp (their second album "Nurds" was produced by Paul Simon collaborator Roy Halee and is an inferior effort), and features their perennial encore performance of the Hallelujah Chorus. If you have never heard three voices pull this off, you havent heard nuthin yet. Once they were booted from Warner Brothers, they landed at MCA and began producing themselves. The MCA albums are not up to the Fripp standards, and are only for those who are converts. Finally, Ryko snagged them and a couple of years ago they recorded the Perfect Christmas Album, called "We Three Kings." Miss this one at your peril. Finally, for those of you who cant get enough of these ladies (I still want to meet them), check out the following: Terre contributes voice to two songs on Robert Fripps first solo album "Exposure," "Mary" and the title track. Suzzy (I think) contributes two of the best moments of Fripps "League Of Gentlemen" album (there are your degrees of separation.... Roche... Fripp... Andrews.... Partridge) when she says, in the opening moments, "Rock and roll is about FUCKING," and then later on proceeds to fake an orgasm. OR is it a fake? Hmmmm. Anyway, Im sorry to hear that they have taken a sabbatical, but I am sure that they will be back with a fervor. I love those women. Finally, to whomever wrote that XTC should have recorded the first Soft Machine album, I applaud you for being on top of things in a manner that I only thought was possible by ME, but you MUST be joking. Soft Machine was primarily a keyboard/jazz band. XTC might admire such nonsuch, but. I fail to see what you meant. Besides, if you think about it, dont you think that Andy covering "Moon In June" from the Third album is MUCH more realistic? *------------------------------------------------------ jes can be found at.... http://www.lexxicon.com/tenbyjes.htm
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Message-Id: <s3538d33.068@elsevier.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:13:44 -0400
From: Ralph DeMarco <r.demarco@elsevier.com>
Subject: Rants & Raves 2
Dear One Armed Bandits and Affilated Members:
Regarding: DaveKGold - Top 5 Albums Survey!!!!
>But in any event, here's the results of the survey of the Top 5 Artists in
>Your Collection (i.e., who's albums do you have the most of....).
>1. XTC, 2. Beatles, 3. Elvis Costello, 4. REM, 5. King Crimson
>Honorable mention goes to (in no particular order): Kinks, U2, Peter
>Gabriel, Genesis, Kate Bush, Jethro Tull, The Replacements,
>Theloneous Monk.
I was not aware of Chalkhills when this survey was conducted but I had
to put my two-cents worth in. I was shocked not seeing The Talking
Heads. I think that they were one of the most original and innovative
bands of the last twenty years. (Much like XTC) One could say that
Brian Eno was a fifth member for a while - he turned thier sound into Art.
Also, people dig some Richard Thompson when you get a chance. And
what about The Rolling Stones? I like the rest of the list though ('cept
maybe U2).
Also: I desperatley need some XTC videos. Are they available? Can
someone get me a dupe?
Thanks,
Ralphie
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199704152201.PAA18747@f5.hotmail.com> From: "Ben Gott" <xtcfan@hotmail.com> Subject: Andy Quotes Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:01:39 PDT Hillbillies, I need your help in finding a quote from the world's most unquotable man - the great Mr. Andy Partridge. I'm graduating from high school this June, and I'd like to put an Andy quote on my senior page...But I don't know which of his many sayings I should choose! If anyone could e-mail their favourite (and appropriate, please, although the inappropriate ones would be nice to have) Andy quote to me at <xtcfan@hotmail.com>, I would appreciate it. And, who knows? I might just compile 'em on my page! Oh, my head is spinning like the world. -B * ----------------------------------------------------------- Ben Gott http://www.wp.com/58596 "We're pointing our wheels to tomorrow..."
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199704152327.QAA22153@access.tucson.org> From: "J. D. SMX" <jsmelser@access.tucson.org> Organization: Access Tucson Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:36:11 -0700 Subject: Roaches on Video Greetings Chalkhillrophites: I have the Roaches doing the Hallelueh (sp) Chorus, A Capella from their old appearance on SNL in case anyone's interested. I watch it very infrequently as I'm reduced to tears everytime I watch it because it's so beautifully done.(Same w/PSmith and her Gloria) Never bought their albums though. In exelsis dio, errybuddy. J. D. SMX Video Engineer Access Tucson jsmelser@access.tucson.org
------------------------------ Message-Id: <v03020701af79d70af321@[207.77.26.208]> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:14:54 -0400 From: "Ira B. Lieman" <ira@myself.com> Subject: Wow, what response! Heh...I've received to this point *34* responses to my survey...wow, isn't that just great? I'm not done tabulating my results, but the unofficial winner of the quickest response was Dave Franson -- the digest came out at what I believe was 9:48 EDT and Dave's response was at 11:14 (with Tim Kendrick not too far behind at 11:19) So far, the PC-heads outnumber the Mac-heads, but Macs comprise MUCH MORE than the anticipated 10% share of market. But I'd hope that I get some more responses, especially from you busy college (and high school) students that want to waste time in between studying for exams... obXTC content: I'm a Mummer fan too. Favorite song? Probably "In Loving Memory Of A Name," possibly the most upbeat song about death and history I have ever heard. I have been playing English Settlement at work recently, though -- people are quite interested. Anyone else going to the Ben Folds Five concert in New York on 4/28? E-mail me privately. -ira Ira Lieman - ira@myself.com - http://www.intercall.com/~aym "Awaken you dreamers, asleep at your desks!" - A. Partridge
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 19:29:58 +0200 (METDST) From: James Isaacs <jisaacs1@aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Subject: Blur Message-Id: <Pine.A32.3.91.970410192442.62187B-100000@aixterm5.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Maybe I am going over the edge here, but I think Blur's new album is the best thing I've heard come down the pike in quite a while. It is not as XTC-ish or Kinks-ish as previous efforts, but it is good and original, and they seem to be quite an articulate group of lads. I cannot say the same of Oasis, who seem to be the most boorish group of cokeheads since whenever, and they sound nothing like XTC, how dare they. So, a little bit of a tangent there. Let's have a war! (Lee Ving-anyone remember?) Which album do I have to defend next? First, the Go 2 society, which has membership greater than many island nations, now Mummer? Someone slag off on Rag and Bone Buffet, I dare you... Gosh, I am in a rather fiesty mood today, but I am staring #28 in the face next week. Anyone else born on the 17th? James
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:05:37 -0500 (CDT) From: AMANDA CARYL OWENS <ACOEA@jazz.ucc.uno.edu> Subject: No more tape requests please! Message-id: <01IHRN8SEHWY8XU981@jazz.ucc.uno.edu> At the order of mein fuhrer (my father), I cannot receive any more requests for the stuff I have up for trade in the classifieds section. My lovely parental units are both very pissed that I posted my list of items without asking first, due to money concerns (although I fail to see what the big deal is seeing as that everyone is sending me either tapes or postage money anyways.) Everyone who has sent a request, including my two most recent ones, will be taken care of, I promise. One more note...is something wrong with the page? I tried to access it five times on Wednesday morning and kept getting back this message ALERT! FAILURE TO ACCESS AFTER 30,000 TRIES. UNABLE TO CONNECT TO REMOTE HOST. Hasta manana mi amigos, Amanda Je me souviens du soleil "Have you ever met someone that you WOULD touch with a ten foot pole?"
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From: nihilon@crisscross.com
Message-Id: <v03007800af7b13f83912@[202.217.215.183]>
Subject: XTC live shows ???
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:40:28 +0800
All,
Just spoke to my Japanese teacher who is fast becoming the biggest XTC fan
I know - not that I know too many.
She picked up a Japanese magazine here this week called "Dig", which has a
large article on XTC. It gives a history of all their albums, with a guide
to what they're about, it talks about their current status (30 demos and no
recording contract - nothing new there) and has an interview with Andy.
My teacher was telling me about the article, so this is not a direct quote.
Apparently they asked Andy about touring, and Andy said that although he
doesn't like tours, he sometimes gets the urge to perform live in front of
people, so something may happen this year. She also mentioned something
about the possibility of them coming to Japan.
Unfortunately, this is not a translation, but how it was briefly explained
to me. The article has some beasutiful photos with it.
Perhaps one of our Japanese lurkers (and now I KNOW you are out there -
I'll see you all this Saturday!!) could get a translation for us.
BTW, the Japanese edition of Nonsuch also had a form to fill in and send to
Virgin (like a petition) in order to get XTC to play live again!
Hoping that this is the year,
Regards from Tokyo,
Steve (MGV)
P.S. - anyone looking for any of the Demos CDS? I have some for trade
only. Let me know if you need any of them, and trade offers.
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Don't ask me how I feel - I might really tell you.
(Terry Scott Taylor)
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From: Cheryl <McGREGOC@regents.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 16:26:05 GMT
Subject: All the world is football shaped
Message-ID: <1AB27167DD@asdf011.regents.ac.uk>
Hiya chalkies!
I was listening to the radio the other day ( No! I didn't hear XTC
but..) and the station had a contest where people
would call in their ideas for a soundtrack to the movie "Fever
Pitch". I think I got that right this time. Has something to do
with Football/soccer. Anyway, one guy called in and had a
soundtrack of all XTC songs twisted to fit the purpose.
Unfortunately, I came in half way through his list and didn't have
the number of the station to get a transcript.
Well I mentioned it to this nice chalkie, David Fatscher, and he sent
back a list of what he thought would work as a soundtrack using our
favourite band. And it goes like this:
Grass (obviously);
Defences Working Overtime;
Life Begins At the Kop (name of 'home crowd' at Liverpool;
Love On Alan Shearer's Wages ( the Michael Jordan of soccer) or Love
On A Bootboy Wages (they have to clean the player's boots);
No Thugs In Our Crowd;
The Disappointed ('I think he'll be disappointed missing that,
Brian');
Complicated Game;
When Vinnie Jones Is Near Me ( I Have Difficulty...Concentrating);
Living Through Another England/ Germany Semi-Final Penalty Shoot-Out;
Beating Of Hearts ( for Hibs fans);
Shake You Donkey Up ( for Tony Adams);
Seagulls Screaming ( for Brighton fans)
The stuff in brackets were added in for clueless me. I don't know if
many of the American chalkies would get this, but I thought perhaps
the Brits on the list would get a kick out of it. Perhaps some of
the other international chalkies might get it too.
>From Todd:
>What HAVE you two been doing? And why is money being exchanged for
>it?
Ooooooh! The tangled web we weave! Its all top secret and hush hush.
Wink, Wink... know what I mean?
Thus ends another bewildering post from yours truly,
Cheryl
Thanks to David for being gracious enough to let me send it into
chalkhills. : )
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 15:41:44 EDT
From: jh@metheny.brainiac.com (Joe Hartley)
Message-Id: <9704161941.AA16046@metheny>
Subject: Re: Swindon
Ian Stewart wrote:
> Don't go to Swindon for the scenery, go to hear
> that Wacky Accent spoken by children; go to see the Queen's Tap right across
> from the train station; find Ermine Street on a map. Send your two XTC fan
> friends postcards of the Uffington Chalk Horse from Swindon so it gets a
> Swindon postmark.
When I was in England a few years back on business (during which I had
no control over my schedule), I ended up in Swindon for dinner, and went
to a pretty good Chinese restaurant (the duck was superb). I'd blathered
on a few times to anyone who'd listend about how "my favorite band is from
here," but no one cared to go in search of various places of hallucination,
villany, retribution or self-abuse.
I also ended up in Uffington, having a late lunch at the lovely old pub
directly across from the Chalk Horse. I'd happen to have had a view
through the window from my seat, so that every time I looked up, I'd see
the horse and smile.
In my opinion, skip Swindon and go to Uffington again, and have a few
pints in the pub for me!
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:49:05 -0400
Message-Id: <v01510100af7aa478a1c0@[128.122.161.36]>
From: vanvalnc@is2.nyu.edu (Chris Van Valen)
Subject: Ben Folds Five at Irving Plaza NYC 4/28
Hi all
If anybody is going to the BFF show on 4/28, look for two very old (39 and
five sixths) people in Sir Philip of Boise's Chalkhills t-shirts. Will also
be at the same location on 5/8 for the Verve Pipe show.
Cheers,
CV
If you have an unpleasant nature and dislike people
this is no obstacle to work.
--J.G. Bennett
Catch "Forever Knight" on the Sci-Fi Channel every Monday-Thursday at 9PM
and 1AM, EST.
--Lucien LaCroix
------------------------------ Subject: Several Sacred Objects From: wwilson@mail07.mitre.org (Wesley H. Wilson) Message-Id: <970416155707.15992@mail07.mitre.org.0> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 15:57:09 -0400 Chalkhills #3-99 included a bit about Andy producing the new (Stephen) Duffy album. I guess Stephen WOULD be due for a new release, since "Duffy" came out in 1995 and Stephen does a record every two years or so. I had no idea Andy was producing. This is great news, although I have to wonder when the Swindon lads are going to record their next...? If ever! Doesn't sound like we'll be getting it this year. :-( Anyway, I've ordered Blegvad's "Just Woke Up" from my local record shoppe; hope it's good! I read an internet review and it sure sounds like an interesting album. By the way, is all of that "numinous objects" stuff serious? Interesting reading. Speaking of interesting, The Lilys are due to release a new album this month, and Nick Heyward's new single on the Creation label is due out in May. So, good material awaits! In the meantime my speakers have been sounding out "Odelay" by Beck (WHY do I like this guy's stuff? It flies in the face of all my pop sensibilities, but the guy is so eclectic) and "Retreat from the Sun" by That Dog. (Check out www.newbury.com for a little more info. about these releases, and the hypnotic album photo of the new "That Dog" album.) By the way, I turn 39 in August and feel more knowledgable, more hip, and more open about music than ever. I even like big parts of "Diary of a Mod Housewife" by Ann Rigby!
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199704162326.QAA26486@f36.hotmail.com> From: "Ben Gott" <xtcfan@hotmail.com> Subject: Oranges and Ages Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 16:26:18 PDT Now for a quick post: >And, for Chrissakes, STOP THE AMANDA-BASHING!! You'd think there >were a bunch of 10-year olds on this list. Ha ha! Amanda, Josh, Mark (e-mail me, CTD fan!) and I are all closer to ten than the rest of you...(And I don't turn 18 until July 20, dammit!) AMANDA - Colin is saying "stand clear!" at the end of "The Loving." Or maybe it's "spill beer," or "Andy is a deer." I'm not sure. Ian - your post about your visit to Swindon and the possibility that you videotaped the wrong train was hysterical. I guess I'm just in that kind of mood. Today, while teaching third grade (even though I am 17 - chew on that, old geezers!), a girl came up to me with a drawing of a space alien (similar to the ones we all thought were behind Hale-bop.) It had a pumpkin head! I laughed, but she didn't understand. There is nothing better than a cup of coffee and "English Settlement" on a bus at 6:30 in the morning. That there's field trip music! -Ben (Life is easy when you're being kept afloat...) * ----------------------------------------------------------- Ben Gott http://www.wp.com/58596 "We're pointing our wheels to tomorrow..."
------------------------------ From: Melsta@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:31:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970416203101_572171054@emout19.mail.aol.com> Subject: We are Shaggy and Hairy and Fuzzy My dog and my 2 cats, known collectively as The Moochers. Hee. I don't have anything by the Roches except their Christmas album, which I think is my all-time top favorite Christmas album. And this from someone who buys several every year. Anyway, just a coupla quickies. Actually they tie in together rather nicely. I'm glad someone brought up my old favorite radio station WOXY Oxford. I asked here a couple years ago whether it was still around and still cool, but never heard. I grew up in the northern suburbs of Cincinnati, where I could only get 97X on my clock radio in my bedroom. Some of my friends thought I made it up. It was truly a refreshing oasis during the glory days of Bob Seeger and (later) Bon Jovi. I only wish I could subscribe to it here on cable radio or somesuch. (But Akron does have the next best thing, i.e. WAPS -- try it as you drive through. It's great.) And it was there on 97X that I first fell in love with XTC. Senses and Farmboy were the songs that did it for me (I had actually heard Generals and Majors on a rock station, but while I liked it enough to put it on my tape-from-the-radio [see several issues back] it wasn't "the clincher") and Mummer was the first cassette of theirs that I bought. So it holds that special place in my heart. Which ties in to that thread rather neatly. Yes, I too stand up in favor of Mummer. It's maybe second to O&L as my fave, mainly on the strength of Farmboy alone. With O&L being the exception, I'm basically a "middle-period" gal, my core faves being from ES through Skylarking. Although... Who am I kidding? Every time I try to say what I like best about the band, I find that it leaves out something essential to the XTC X-perience, like When You're Near Me or Wrapped in Grey or Ten-a-Feet Tall. So I'm babbling. But what better to babble about? Jim Smart, I loved the story of your Odyssey through XTC-land. If you follow the B-52's all the way back, you get Rock Lobster. So keep the faith everyone. Thanks for being there. And quit the fucking sniping. Melissa Reaves (aka Da Melsta)
------------------------------ From: artsy@sprynet.com Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:12:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199704170112.SAA21325@m7.sprynet.com> Subject: Chalkhillers/Penn/XTC/EC Heya folx - Good luck, Becki DiGregorio, with your CD! Thanks for all the ordering info., but I was wondering what label it's on and if it's available in stores as well. James McGowan: Now what's this crap about Geritol (I'm 39 also)... :^) Amanda, thanks for the little welcome back. I see it's AMANDA CARYL now... Beth Wojiski, appreciate the comments, and Jason, AWRIGHT, I'm gonna check out Paul's new one on the 28th, bud. **Does anyone know whatever happened to the new Michael Penn CD??? It was supposed to come out a month or two ago, right? After spending all the time moving, packing/unpacking, etc. I lost track of the whole deal, but all I know is, it isn't in stores anywhere. Also, since I've never caught up on about a dozen Chalkhills, is there any news at all on our boys signing with a new label, the release date of the new mega-double-70+-minutes-per-CD set (OK, wishful thinking...), etc.? (Todd, I know you told me there wasn't any news on this, but I'm scraping, OK?). One more thing: I'm sure the Costello & Nieve set has long since vanished from the shelves in most cities (only 30,000 sets were made), and I got my copy, but I MAY be able to get another set or two if anyone's interested. The cost would be only about $30 INCLUDING tax, shipping & handling, if I can still find a set or two (to those in the USA, that is). Those of you elsewhere, I'm sure we could work something out. BTW, how many copies were made in Britain, and/or is this an American release only? Or was the 30,000 the whole enchilada? I guess I'm "Living in Another CuuuuuBAAAAAAAAA" since moving...
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 21:06:46 -0500 (CDT) From: The Gottschalks <gotts@tenet.edu> Subject: Heathen speaks to kill his own boredoM Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970416205313.5114A-100000@abernathy.tenet.edu> Children of Chalkhills: Leave it to me to ignore all the little discussions of XTC-realted music and album impressions to just ramble for my own benefit. I'm glad my brother is finally convinced that BF5 are worth seeing, so we're going to their concert tomorrow (Quite exciting for me. I haven't even heard them!) Oh the agony of being backwards. I still need to obtain most of XTC's albums, which are extremely hard for me to find (though I did get O&L and Rag And Bone Buffet for really cheap because the world as a whole is ignorant of the magic of XTC). God of Chalkhills? I'll take it! The second part of my last name isn't exactly pronounced "chalk," but I'll change it for that marvelous title. One album I really want, besides English Settlement, is Mummer. There is SO much discussion over this one that I feel like I have to get just to be part of the team (continuing the Seinfeld expressions). Yeah, I'm sure lots of you saw the Great Ones when I was a mere infant, sperm, or nonexistant. But think of this. When many of you are old, senile, and totally out of it in terms of music, I'll be keeping up with all the good bands. I'll laugh at you! I think I'd better go, now that I've gone on far too long vocalizing my ponderings. Peace to ye' all, Mark the Dummyhead, God of Chalkhills
------------------------------ From: Melsta@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970416231405_809496534@emout12.mail.aol.com> Subject: All of a Sudden What can I say? Why do we attack each other with no compunction? From day to day It seems that this list has lost some of its function. The net's like a glass house You don't throw stones 'less You don't mind having stones thrown right back at you. All of a sudden we find that teeth are bared All of a sudden we find that no one cares All of a sudden we feel feel a bit too bold All of a sudden we're left out in the cold All of a sudden we've taken off the gloves-- We all just push and shove. I hope It's not too late. What can we do? Trying to stop the flow of insults feels useless. It's up to you. Start being nice or watch the list grow senseless. The net's like a mirror You get back from it No better than your own sad contributions. [Chorus] Chalk's not a product you can own or censor just for you. It's more a pie -- we have to share it. [note: Chalk pie! Yumm!] [Chorus] PS I'm not taking sides here -- I think both sides are full of shit.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:35:34 -0700 Subject: The dubbed experiments Message-ID: <19970416.203537.6382.0.GTR80@juno.com> From: gtr80@juno.com (Gerardo Tellez) I have been a subscriber for chalkhills for awhile, and i've noticed that no one has mentioned The Dubbed Experiments. Doesn't anyone here have that CD? I bet someone does. Do you guys not like it for some reason? I think it's a pretty good (but weird) CD. Gerardo
------------------------------ From: James Robert Campbell <jrcampbe@mines.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:26:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704170426.WAA01540@dagmar.mines.utah.edu> Subject: Re: XTC Discussion at BFF concert Miles Coleman said.... > Thanks to all for the recommendations that come up. Ben Folds Five came to > Salt Lake City, Utah last and we caught the show...... > > In fact I was stopped and complimented by two others about the tee shirt and > ended up defending the boys when one of them declared that there would never > be another album. Can you believe the audacity? (sensing I'm being drawn out of the woodworks as I mentioned that I was on the list...) Yep, and I'll even say it again. I'll believe it when I see it. I've been an XTC fan (avid I might add) since O&L came out (chalkhillian for over 4 years), and have had the pleasure of *one* album coming out in that time span. Now while I've been able to become quite familiar witht he rest of the catalogue, this is simply ridiculous. Strike or no strike if they wanted to put out music they would. I'm even starting to see my tastes move away from XTC (and I consider them to be strongly as such), and I really don't like it. But, hey, bands like Ben Folds Five (for example) are putting out material, and all I can do is keep listening... I would be first in line to get a new album, but I don't care how many demos float around, I'm not getting my hopes up that we'll ever see another one. Hope I'm wrong, --James * -------------------------------------------------------------------- James R. Campbell Department Of Meteorology jrcampbe@mines.utah.edu University of Utah jrcampbe@atmos.met.utah.edu http://www.met.utah.edu/info/graduate/james.html "Her mix-tape's a masterpiece."
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:29:15 -0700 From: becki digregorio <ziglain@cruzio.com> Subject: ok, i'm an idiot... Message-ID: <9704162209.aa05336@mail.cruzio.com> sorry, gang... i've had numerous xtc fans write to me saying that i neglected to put my address in my last missive, as to where to send the check for the cd. perhaps it was the wine... here goes: becki digregorio p.o. box 1035 soquel, ca 95073 usa shaking my head in disgust, --becki
------------------------------ Message-ID: <31510B652669CF11BA1D00805F38219E020A2AF4@DUB-04-MSG> From: Peter Fitzpatrick <peterfit@MICROSOFT.com> Subject: More Rifff/Andy Information Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 02:59:55 -0700 Hi All, First : many thanks to everyone who "jumped to my defence" during the recent, predictable, Microsoft vs. The World discussion. [one person (who shall remain nameless !) pointed out that he doesn't write nasty letters to a cable channel because they're showing a concert by his favourite artist but he doesn't have cable.....interesting analogy]. But seriously : the usual mature, considered & civilised tone was adopted by all. Thanks. So : some news ! ! ! Firstly : the Rifff show has been completed. I expect to get a sneak preview in a few days. By all accounts it's great and Andy really likes it. Secondly : I'm going to book my flight to the UK Convention today and will do everything I possibly can to preview the Rifff show to everyone there. It's 99% likely that this will happen. I'll also bring the photos I took on the day as well as the video I shot in "the shed". If anyone really cares to see them I'll bring the autographed CD sleeves too. Thirdly : the show will start on MSN June 6th. Fourth :There will be an on-line chat with Andy on June 12th. Yes - you read correctly. Andy will be sat in front of a PC and will be chatting with MSN members on June 12th. You'll have to check in with MSN in order to find out the time. It'll probably not suit every time zone but I'm sure that the folks at MSN will try to find a good time. Now, some of you mailed me regarding the "first free month" offer on MSN. As far as I know this applies worldwide. There should be local phone (voice) numbers that you can call in order to get more details. Also , many regions have their "own" MSN (for example : there is an MSN customised for France, Germany, Ireland, UK, Australia, Japan etc etc etc). *** If I'm wrong about any of this info. please don't shoot me.....I'm only the piano player*** A good place to start is http://www.msn.com If you want to check out the whole MSN thing I strongly suggest that you get started now. They (MSN) send you a (free) CD so that you can install the necessary software. In other words don't try to do all of this the day before the chat on June 12th ! No, MSN doesn't work on the Mac, Unix, BBC Micro, Acorn, Sinclair ZX80 or Tandy TRS-80. I wish it did.....life would be so much easier. But it doesn't and there's nothing I can do about it. Cheers everyone (looking forward to the Convention !)
------------------------------ Message-Id: <199704171307.GAA14080@sgi.sgi.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 09:01:24 EDT From: "Todd Bernhardt" <tbernha@columbiaenergy.e-mail.com> Subject: STOP THE MADNESS Can We Chalk? James <SLEDZNH@aol.com> said: > I remember being maligned by some of my friends when I was 19 for listening to Black Sea when the others were listening to REO Speedwagon (and look which band is still around today!).< The really frightening thing is, James, REO Speedwagon *is* still around today. I think they're doing washed-up-'70s/80s-bands revival shows along with (shudder) Styx and other such wankers. As Count Floyd would say, "Ooooh, kids! Scary!" From: Beth Wojiski <WOJISBE@ic.si.edu>: > if anyone has ever ridden in a "roundabout", you'd be thankful they have such a widely developed public transportation system in Great Britain. (As an American who lived in Birmingham, England, I could sympathize *completely* with XTC in "English Roundabout". Truly terrifying bits of road! Thank goodness we don't have that many here in D.C./Virginia!)< That's funny -- the reason I was able to navigate in roundabouts -- even the dreaded 5-in-1 Swindon roundabout -- when I was over there was because of all the practice I got driving in DeeCee's traffic circles. Northern Virginia, on the other hand, is another story -- no roundabouts, but lots of "terrifying bits of road!" :^) James "from another time" Dignan correctly pointed out the links between KC, Roches and XTC (and Fripp's great leads on the albums he produced) -- to make things even more annoyingly explicit, I'll add that Tony Levin and Bill Bruford have both played on Roches albums as well. And Gene, check out the web site I recommended for info on Roches on video. There's not much, but there's some. From: "McDonald, Rojer" <McDonaRF@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au>: >you could take your friend's advice and use the page down button. He should probably take that advice too. I was quite amused by that statement about using the page down button - I mean it's tantamount to standing in Trafalgar Square wearing a top hat and announcing that all wearers of hats are queer - not that there's anything wrong with that! < So you guys get Seinfeld down there as well, eh? Actually, Rojer, I don't quite get the analogy there ... all I was saying was, if Amanda's posts get someone's panties in a bunch, then they should just skip them rather than reading, responding and perpetuating whatever thread is being spun. Just STOP THE MADNESS, mate! :^) > A less civilised person would probably tell you to stick the page down button in your bottom but I'm not going to say that. Stick your page down bottom in your button!! Quick, page down, page down!< Actually, I've tried it both ways, and I've found it works best if I leave it on the keyboard. Not that I didn't have fun trying, though. Okay, now hit page up and read this all over again! :^) ByeBye!
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 09:40:39 -0500 (CDT) From: AMANDA CARYL OWENS <ACOEA@jazz.ucc.uno.edu> Subject: Too many cooks spoil the kitchen..... Message-id: <01IHT218MTG68XV8KX@jazz.ucc.uno.edu> (Sorry, couldnt think of a wittier entre' into my usual ramblings.) And now, responses....... >From Ben Gott, >I still am most impressed with "Deliver Us From the Elements" I think that's Colin's best song on the album, personally. >From Martin Monkman, >But crappy production hasn't diminished my ardour for Mummer Same with me and The Big Express, which, even though I feel is incredibly overproduced and overladen with effects, is still my favorite XTC album on the strength of its lyrics and subject material. >From Gene Yoon, >How about soc.we're-only-encouraging-her. I LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIKE IT! >From Jeffrey Langr, >Andy Partridge I am sure would be proud Well, things appear to be cooling down, so I'm sure Sir Partridge would give us credit for trying..... For all this talk of Pat Mastelotto...wasn't he Mr. Mister's drummer? >From Jason Garcia, >And, for Chrissakes, STOP ALL THE AMANDA-BASHING! Aww, I'm used to it by now. When you've been ostracized all your life for one reason or another, you become armoured. It's just that when you're in a forum when you finally feel you can belong, and you become ostracized again, it wears away at you. >From ROJER! >Chalkhills is not the place to carry on this sort of vendetta and it won't happen again. Bless you, my child ;) >-I don't recall ever calling you, and "American bitch," Oh contraire, you did. Remember back when I stated my views on vegetarianism and caused a nice big stink, well you wrote and called me and American bitch, and went off on me about a coupla other things, then I wrote back and said "I think I love you" and you got a kick out of it...... >I'm sorry if I upset you-I enjoy the frequency of your submissions and your >witty rejoinders ;) Then why jump on the bandwagon of people who just love to get a rise out of me? >P.S. Amanda, how did you know that Stephanie was a cheerleader and that I >represent the lollie-pop guild??? Silly girl! Oh I could tell, you're over there wearing your cute little plaid outfit carrying a nice big lollipop (my b-friend's nickname for me, btw. Nauseating, huh?) And Stephanie, Stephanie, where has she gone to????? BTW-I'm not Canadian like David Bowie! I'm American like Neil Young! >From James Isaacs, >In our recent discussions over Mummer, no one has mentioned the video for >Human Alchemy, which (imho) is their best video. I have to disagree here. Number one WHERE IS DAVE? (That's always what I look for first...how much Dave is in the video.) And while the concept is very original, the darkness of the whole thing depresses me. >From Chris Clee, >try english settlement side 2 track one followed by side 1 track 2, and side >2 track 2 You'll have to help me out here, I only have the cd....that's Ball and Chain and what else? >you really ought to spend some time doing college work too you know That's what I do from 8-11 every steenking day. Ciao for now, Amanda XTC song of the day-River of Orchids non-XTC song of the day-The Battle Of Who Could Care Less-Ben Folds Five Je me souviens du soleil
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