Chalkhills Digest Volume 2, Issue 47
Date: Thursday, 7 December 1995

          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 2, Number 47

                Thursday, 7 December 1995

Today's Topics:

               re: John Hedges Tabloid News
                   Son of Adrian & XTC
                       Blur? Bleah!
                   Re: Misheard Lyrics
                   The Spyz! and stuff
           Andy's Politics, Again, Again, Again
                    Turn it up HIGHER!
                       At The Edge
               misherd werds, similarities
                       Froom again
                  Ernest Noyes Brookings
                          Stuff
                       TD and 3D-EP
                      Brit-Pop music
                          Covers
                      Uwe Nettlebeck
               Whereabouts of the La's/Arm
                     Yeah. yeah, yeah
                      re: "Millions"
               Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-46
                      TD For Trade!

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 13:12:43 -0800
From: richard.pedrettiallen@octel.com (Richard Pedretti-Allen)
Subject: re: John Hedges Tabloid News

  -sniff, sniff-  Did someone let cattle in here?

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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 95 15:35:51 CST
From: "Bernhardt, Todd" <tbernhardt@aga.com>
Subject: Son of Adrian & XTC

Here's a repost of the previous message I sent. Somehow the part pertaining
    to XTC got snipped in transmission.

Just pulled this off of Elephant Talk, the King Crimson digest.   It
    responds to a thread about the futility of shouting out requests at KC
    (or most other) performances. Thought it might interest y'all:

------- begin included message -------

 From: d.zemel@genie.com
 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 04:16:00 UTC 0000
 Subject: Taking Requests...
 I agree that requests for songs work only in the small intimate
 setting and the show that I attended where it worked perfectly
 was Adrian's Words and Music Acoustic tour.  At least here in
 Milwaukee, the show was Adrian, a few acoustic guitars
 (including a dobro) and a potted plant.  He explained that the
 show would consist of the audience asking questions and he
 giving answers and playing acoustic tunes, including requests.

 What a magical night!  The house lights were turned up so that
 he could see faces and hands raised and he called on virtually
 everyone with a question.  We were told about the plans for King
 Crimson (this almost a full year before Vroom), his Guitar as
 Orchestra album and much, much more.  He played much of what was
 requested, including joke requests like Purple Haze ("Purple
 Haze on an acoustic guitar...right!).  He also gave homage to
 the Beatles with some covers which were stunning.

 My question to him was about influences other than the Beatles
 and included a specific reference to Todd Rundgren.  He
 responded that there were some similarities between him and Todd
 because they were both so heavily influenced by that original
 British Invasion, not that either of them influenced the others.
 He then mentioned XTC as another group who was similarly
 influenced, adding that they are one of his favorites (as they
 are mine -- what a delight to see pictures of Adrian and Andy
 Partridge in the latest Little Express, the XTC fan magazine).
 Anyway, it was a delight to hear so many great tunes "unplugged"
 and he was a real wonderful person and performer to have offered
 us such a great environment.

------- end included message -------

Thanks to Dean Zemel for passing this along.

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 16:03:24 CST
From: Margaret Quinn <maq1@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Blur? Bleah!

Hello all out there,

The main thrust of this letter was to express my deep disappointment in
Blur's The Great Escape (great movie, though). My roommate actually bought
it after I told him that it got many recommendations on Chalkhills. Upon
putting it in the CD player, we were not able to listen to one song all the
way through. I guess this puts me in the Oasis camp now...

Onto other things, isn't "Sunny Jim" a general term for a man? I use the
great Kirsty MacColl's song "Don't Come the Cowboy With Me, Sonny Jim" as
an example. BTW: What do people think of Ms. MacColl? I have always found
that she has a very pronounce Englishness and sartorial writing style that
puts me in mind of Mr. Partridge himself. (I know she's actually Scottish
but...)  She's also married to Steve Lillywhite which I figure gives her a
remote XTC connection. Come to think of it, she's a great singer and has
lended her voice as a backup on many good songs by other
artists. (esp. "Interesting Drug" by Morrissey and the gorgeous "Lorelei"
by The Pogues. Yes, I listen to Morrissey. Please no comments. :-) )

One last thing, I am living in NY now and am interested in going to see the
Dave Yazbeck show on Dec. 14. Anyone else?

Margaret Quinn
who has been on this list for almost five years now and thinks this might
be my third post ever.

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Date: 06 Dec 95 17:04:43 EST
From: candl <70004.2001@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Misheard Lyrics

Here's a good one...

Me better half tells me that she used to think Andy sang "I don't know
how to write a bigot song" in 'Mayor of Simpleton'!(It's actually "big
hit song"). Of course, 'Knuckle Down' is one of her faves, so I can
see where she got the idea...

Sam

ps the secret to 'Roads Girdle the Globe" involves an alternate
tuning. My that Andy is a clever one!  <g>

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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 95 16:15:48 CST
From: "Bernhardt, Todd" <tbernhardt@aga.com>
Subject: The Spyz! and stuff

    To John Hedges <jh3@ns.cencom.net>: Cut it out, you're killing me!
    I'm ROF,L over your Spyz post. It is one of the best spoofs I've
    read in a long time (I hope I not spoiling this for anyone). It's
    actually so well-written that it betrays the fact that it could not
    possibly be tabloid fodder! I'm editor of a trade magazine that covers
    the natural gas industry -- want to freelance for me?

    BTW, I'd love it if you posted the chords to "Ten Feet Tall."

    And to Peter Mullin <pgm2@cornell.edu>: I'm glad I'm not the only one
    to hear "some f*cking seaweed" in "That Wave." In fact, I still hear
    it!

    To DougMash@aol.com: C'mon, you've piqued our interest with the rubber
    shark story ... don't just leave us dead in the water, Sunny Jim. What
    did Andy DO with those rubber sharks (great meeting story, BTW).

    Finally, I've heard of Window Box and Griboullage, but could someone
    please clue me in on what they are, exactly? I've hear Window Box is a
    demo tape -- Is Griboullage the spoken-word thing that was mentioned
    several issues ago? Any chance of getting copies?

    That's all. Thanks y'all.

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 20:34:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Natalie Jane Jacobs <gnat@umich.edu>
Subject: Andy's Politics, Again, Again, Again

Re. Christie Byun's criticisms of my comments: I think it's interesting that
you expect so little from
pop music - and from XTC's music in particular.  I think you said that
"pop is there to get your toes tapping," not to be heavy or profound.
Granted, it's very, very difficult to squeeze meaning into the space of 3
minutes, but Andy seems to do just fine with wonderful songs like
"Snowman" or "No Thugs"; why, then, when he turns to politics on that
album, does he end up with statements of the type usually expressed by
Neil the hippie on "The Young Ones"?  ("Guys, stop fighting!")  But of
course - it's "only" pop music. Only high culture can be profound.  I
don't see that kind of high/low divide in culture: I see a smart/stupid
divide, and when a smart songwriter acts stupid (with
no apparent irony), I take notice.

Re. Andy's not voting, he's said as much in numerous interviews.  I think
the way he phrases it is that he "won't" vote.  (Actually, I can't say I
blame him, these days.)  Unfortunately I can't get a reference because I
cut up all my music magazines a few years ago to make a deck of cards.
(It's a long story, but suffice it to say that Andy is the Jack of Hearts.)

Re. Craig Snyder's remark that XTC does, in fact, have a lot of really
good political songs - um, yeah.  Whoops.  I realized that after I
posted.  I think this is called "spirit of the staircase" - after you've
had an argument, while you're going down the stairs, you think of all the
cool things you could have said, but it's too late to say them now...
One of my favorite XTC songs, "The Everyday Story of Smalltown," is
actually VERY political, if you think about it.  And a damn good tune, too.

Natalie Jacobs
**************
"Gods by the bushel!  Gods by the pound!"

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 21:17:54 -0500
From: aym@j51.com (Angry Young Man)
Subject: Turn it up HIGHER!

Three cheers to Todd (Rundgren?) Bernhardt.  I have had a bad day, then I
sat down and read this and I am laughing so hard I'm crying. It's not just
true (IMHO that's one of the better O&L songs), it's syncopated correctly!!
Good job Todd.  Y'know? I'll put that on now too.

>I-just-had-to-run-up-to-my-living-room-where-my-cool-stereo-is-
>and-then-turn-up-the-volume-knob HIGHER! (Guitar please, Dave)
>Turn it up HIGHER!! :^)

 < - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >  "He's been stabbed in the back
    _/_/  _/ _/  _/_/_/_/  Ira Lieman          He's been misunderstood
  _/  _/ _/ _/  _/ _/ _/  Angry Young Man      It's a comfort to know
 _/_/_/   _/   _/ _/ _/  aym@j51.com           His intentions are good"
_/  _/   _/   _/    _/  http://www.j51.com/~aym          - Billy Joel

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From: ZITTEL@aol.com
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 21:22:44 -0500
Subject: At The Edge

Does anyone know where the XTC bootleg CD called 'At The Edge' be purchased?
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 16:55:52 +1300 (NZDT)
From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)
Subject: misherd werds, similarities

Forget MY famous mishearings of Andy and Colin's lyrics... do Spacehog
*really* sing "and bullets might give you blackeye..." on TD??? Bullets
will do a hell of a lot more than give you a black eye my friends... thanks
for the CD, Scott! And Mr. Y, too, of course :)

BTW - I know we're not meant to mention the Liverpudlians here, but does
anyone else think that "Difficult age" sounds a bit like "Baby you're a
rich man"?

James

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 19:57:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Laura Parent <laura@geosun1.sjsu.edu>
Subject: Froom again

I was just kidding about Mitchell Froom. I think he's a wonderful
producer. It's just that my love for Crowded House (second only to
XTC...maybe) is so great that I can't really judge him on that. But the
Los Lobos, Richard Thompson and Suzanne Vega (I always thought she was a
lesbian) stuff that he's produced is excellent. Especially Suzanne
Vega...what an improvement! So maybe we can forgive him for City Lights
(it must have been awfully windy last night!-sorry, MSTie joke).

I can only wish it had been Mitchell (Mittens!) Froom that produced the
new Beatles single instead of Jeff Lynne.

How can anyone hate Skylarking!? All I can say is you're going to regret
giving it away. But then, I have no use for Big Express!

Speaking of misheard lyrics...maybe someone can clue me in on the lyrics
to "Ladybird". There's a line that I think goes "all through the iron
season love was just a ............." and then something about parlor games.
Anyway, I'm tired of having to mumble when I sing this song to myself in
the car! What the heck is he saying? (I don't know where my lyric sheet
is for Mummer...or if it has one)

Also speaking of XTC soundalikes...has anyone else noticed that the
Rembrandt's song "Johnny have you seen her?" bears more than a
passing resemblance to "Dear God"? Of course, it wouldn't be the first
(or last) time those guys ripped someone off.

One last note. Jellyfish is a great band, but I don't quite see the XTC
connection. Except that Andy Sturmer has the same first name as our
Andy and is also a great writer of pop tunes.

Laura

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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 23:51:13 -0500
From: nothing@io.org (nothing)
Subject: Ernest Noyes Brookings

>From: vertigo@well.com (Giancarlo Cairella)
>
>As many of you probably know, the second volume of a compilation
>series featuring songs with lyrics by Ernest Noyes Brookings includes
>a song credited to XTC (actually a Andy Partridge solo work) called
>"Rocket".  The CD is titled "Places of general happiness".
>
>Does anyone have more info about this series? Each volume usually
>includes fine alternative bands (like Madder Rose and Morphine on
>vol. 4) and the songs are consistently good.
>
>I've got volume 2 "Places of general happiness", volume 3 "Delicacy
>and nourishment" and volume 4 "Outstandingly Ignited" but I cannot
>find the first volume anywhere (and I don't know its title). These CD
>are issued by a Minneapolis label called ESD, but I think the first
>one might be on a different label. Any info about volume 1
>(title/label/availability/anything) and on who the hell is Ernest
>Noyes Brookings :-) would be greatly appreciated....

The album "Lyrics By Ernest Noyes Brookings" was released by Shimmy-Disc.
The NYC-based label is/was home to bands such as Bongwater, King Missile,
Ween, When People Were Shorter And Lived Near The Water, Dogbowl, and
Captain Howdy.  The label is run by Kramer who has produced lots of great
albums (including the trio of classic Galaxie 500 albums - try to find 'em).
Kramer, who is really Mark Kramer according to a Fugs record he was on, has
been using just the name Kramer for some time now and predates the
"Seinfeld" Kramer by at least three or four years.

The album, which was released in 1989, contains 21 songs and the cassette
versions includes nine(!) bonus tracks.  According to the Shimmy-Disc
catalog it was never available on CD.  The 21 artists on the vinyl version
are:  The Incredible Casuals, Christmas, Brave Combo, Johnny D & the
Domestics,Bits, Rev. Fred Lane & Ron "Pate's" Debonairs, The Nephew
Brothers, Men & Volts, Erik Lindgren, Jad Fair, John Foster, Bobby Lloyd &
the Skeletons, Dana Moser & Alan Bern, Rebby Sharp, Mr. Curt, Kramer, Paul
Tatara, Glenn Jones & Wendy Ritger, Michael Bloom, Eugene Chadbourne, and
Brain Cullman & David Hansen.  I don't have the cassette version so I can't
tell you who the other nine artists are.  And the album does not say "Volume
One" on it anywhere.

The album comes with a lyric sheet (11" x 17", folded in half).  There are
four pictures of Ernest (from 1917 to 1981) and in one picture he is wearing
a crown and somebody has written something on it, but we only can see part
of it which says "King Fo..." (could it be "King For A Day"?).  The lyric
sheet also includes an ad for copies of The Duplex Planet, a book of Mr.
Brookings poetry, and Ernest T-shirts and sweatshirts!

According to Shimmy-Disc's Fall 1994 catalog this album is still available
on both album and cassette.  The label can be reached at:

                Shimmy-Disc
                JAF Box 1187
                New York, NY 10116

Or you can phone them at (212) 675-0922.

nothing
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nothing@io.org

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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 23:24:24 -0600
From: shonniet@interaccess.com (LaShawn M. Taylor)
Subject: Stuff

>From: jd.mack@neteast.com (JD MACK)
>"So with a mop and a bucket
>I'll just say . . ."
>
>Typical cleverness from Andy.  Reminds me a bit of the song "Shaving
>Cream."

I never really saw that, since the rhyming scheme in 1000 Umbrellas is
strange and convulated to begin with.  But yes, oh so very typical of Andy.
And speaking of misheard lyrics, I've always mistook the 1 billion salt seas
for "1 billion saucers recalled from school atlas".  I guess my mind was
trying to tie it in with teacups or upturned umbrellas or other vestibles

>From: Natalie Jane Jacobs <gnat@umich.edu>
>Subject: "Millions," etc.
>
>A final reason I'm so down on this song, BTW, is that I find it really
>dull... snazz it up with a decent vocal line and I'd probably be a little
>less harsh.  My favorite XTC songs are the really singable ones;

Dull? "He make you glowing, he bake you golden like the yangtse mud" dull?
And I don't think this has anything to do with racism, since the song's
probably more or less
western/capitalism/socialism/I-don't-know-what-else-ism bashing (And yangtse
is such a crossword word!).

>From: "John Christensen" <christej@vrinet.com>
>Subject: Secret Out Tapes/Dave loves Elvis
>
>Question: Does anyone know the background of the "Secret Out Tapes"
>(1980?). It sounds like an improvisational (drunken?!) jam with "the boys"
>playing around with some Hendrix and Led Zeppelin songs (Pupil Hayes,
>Community Worker Breakdown, Whole Lotta Age, etc.).  I didn't believe it
>was really XTC until I listened closely to their unmistakable banter. What
>IS the story on this?

Secret Out Tapes is included as demos on the Helium Kids Tracks (once again,
thanks Holly!), but that's all I know.  I find it absolutely HILARIOUS!
Especially when Andy does this Jimmy Paige impersonation (and somewhere in
the middle of the set he does this weird hocking sound that leaves me
howling on the floor every time I hear it).

>From: Scott.Shimomura@Ebay.Sun.COM (Scott Shimomura)
>Subject: Chalkhills Newbie
>
>It is refreshing to read a mail list that isn't filled with flame wars and
bickering that I put up with on the other list I subscribe. (Pavement
>for those of you who care.)  I am in the process of reading some of
>the back issues and have been pleasantly surprised by the maturity
>and decorum exhibited by the members of this list.

Aw, 'e don' know us vewwy well, do 'e?  Shall I start up the great DG debate
again? :^)

>From: Gene_Yoon@brown.edu
>Subject: A Cynical Day for Colin

>  Basically, he was the most depressing, cynical, and terse person I've
>  ever interviewed.

Poor Colin.  So *that's* why every single picture I've seen of him always
have him pouting or sulking or not looking happy in general.  Not once have
I ever seen him smile.
This is interesting because just recently I have somewhat *rediscovered*
him.  Ever since someone here mentioned that he was the best bass player,
I've actually been paying particular attention to his bass contributions on
songs (especially on the Dukes CD), and it is like hearing them for the
first time again.  And his songs are deeply poignant (okay, I'll tell you a
secret--the first time I heard One of the Millions, I was already in a
depressed mood and that song set me to bawling my brown eyes out).  He has a
way of touching the melancholy in you with his lyrics--or his voice.
Okay.  I'll stop mooning over him now and jump off my soapbox.

LaShawn Taylor

**************************
Please don't laugh at me,
It encourages bad behavior.
**************************

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From: DAMIAN FOULGER <SPXDLF@cardiff.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 10:00:14 GMT
Subject: TD and 3D-EP

Dear (ch)all(khills),

Does it strike anyone else as worrying?  The title Testimaonial
Dinner?  To me 'testimonial' implies some sort of death or end, as in
'The last will and testiment.'  Is there something that David Yazbek
knows and is not telling us directly, but only implying with this
title?  It's a (Richard) scarey thought.

Mr Yazbek (very fine musician) said:
> Also-- Testimonial Desert is not in developement. Let's see how din-din
>goes first.
How are the sales going, or is it too early to tell?

And, can anyone tell me how much a 3D-EP is worth?  Judging by the
fact that (according to the discography) it was never released
anywhere but Britain it may be collectable in forin parts.

Love and new XTC to everyone.

Dames TWD

(Life is good in the greenhouse:XTC)
(You told me you saw Jesus, but I could only see a tree: Amber)

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From: ELIZABETH DIX <SPXED@cardiff.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 10:24:43 GMT
Subject: Brit-Pop music

BObannon@aol.com wrote:

> Finally, another band that has XTC tendencies is Guided by Voices. Their
> CDs are recorded like a bad demo, but their songs are brilliant. Very
> Brit-pop oriented

Hold on a minute.  Brit-pop?  That's tortological to the extreme.
There is no other pop but British.  I'm gald that I've put that
straight.

-L

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From: 7IHd <ee92pmh@brunel.ac.uk>
Subject: Covers
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 11:33:36 +0000 (GMT)

# From: aym@j51.com (Angry Young Man)
# Subject: Hi!
#
# >Yep. How's life on the Billy Joel newsgroup, BTW? No sign of a CD reissue
# >of 'Hour Of The Wolf' yet, I suppose? *sigh*
#
# Alas, no, I doubt that the Hassles will ever reappear in *ANY* form...but
# an educated fan is usually a bigger fan.

This has already gone to email, but I just thought I'd point out to the
assembled masses that the first Hassles LP _was_ reissued on CD about 3
years ago, complete with a load of bonus tracks (in mono!). It's now
totally unobtainable again, as it was a very limited pressing.

# From: Tobin Munsat <tmunsat@pppl.gov>
# Subject: XTC covering themselves
#
# I wonder what would happen if some band covered one of the XTC songs before
# XTC released the original- say someone got hold of the new demos and
# arranged to publish a cover version before the next XTC record was produced
# (obviously XTC would have to give the go-ahead).

Now there's a funny thing. On the aforementioned first Hassles album (the
Hassles were, for those who hadn't gathered, a band which Billy Joel was
in before he went solo. They had 2 albums, in 1967 and 1969) is a cover of
Traffic's song "Coloured Rain". Apparently The Hassles got hold of a record
company publishing demo of some sort, learnt the song from that, and managed
to release it before the original had made it to the US.

In this case I think The Hassles were obscure enough for Traffic not to
worry though. :-)

I think provided a song has been published, they can't do anything to stop
people recording a version of it. But I might be completely wrong.
  _
 |_)|_ *|
 |  | )||   http://http2.brunel.ac.uk:8080/~ee92pmh/
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 11:57:25 +0000 (GMT)
From: William HamBevan <whambeva@jesus.ox.ac.uk>
Subject: Uwe Nettlebeck

 - The suggestion of Uwe Nettlebeck to produce XTC is probably the best
I've heard. His work with Faust is mindblowing.

I am reminded of something Julian Cope recently said, to the effect of
there being one simple test of a person's musical tastes. If they liked
'The Faust Tapes' LP, then they were of sound taste; if not, not. Fairly
arbitary, perhaps, but... by God, it works!!!

Incidentally (sorry about going off at a tangent) I have been unable to
find Cope's new book on Krautrock anywhere in Oxford - does it actually
exist? Has anyone seen it?

A parting shot: does anyone else get as pissed off as I do at the shoddy
synth playing on 'Earn Enough for Us'? I can only assume that it is
Rundgren who is responsible. When the hook line comes back in about two
thirds of the way through the song, it sounds as if a chimp has been
drafted in to play it, hitting bum notes along with the proper ones.
Unfortunate for a band that is usually so tight.

William Ham Bevan,
Jesus College, Oxford.

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 07:04:49 -0800
From: Jennifer Ralston <Jennifer_Ralston@chiat.com>
Subject: Whereabouts of the La's/Arm

I'm finding it a little hard to believe that my first-ever post to
this list is in response to something fairly non-XTC-related, but here
goes:

For those of you who have been asking, the La's are no more. However,
John what's-his-name (forgive me - my information is minimal at best),
the guy who WAS the La's, has formed a new band which some of you may
have heard of. They are called CAST and they will probably be more
popular than the La's ever were.  If they make it in the States, it
will be on the crest of the wave of Britpop.  At any rate, their debut
album is now available and I'd suggest it to any fan of good
music. The sound has changed, but you will not read one bad review of
these guys. (Those of you across the pond, feel free to help me out
here) So all that mattered of the La's is alive and well, but you can
still reminisce by listening to "There She Goes"!

And regarding:
>The band to watch is an unsigned band from Toronto--Rob Torkelson's
>Armada Featuring Herman Menderchuck. :-)

>Do you think they'll make it?  I really hope they make it...;-)

Only if they arrive having eaten.

Anyway, thanks for reading. I guess this was as good a way to
insinuate myself into the list as any. XTC have been a favourite band
of mine for years, ever since my friends' band covered "Toys" way back
in 1986. I look forward to Chalkhills daily to see what my compatriots
have to say!

jennifer

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 15:46:21 +0000
From: fisher@easynet.co.uk (Mark Fisher)
Subject: Yeah. yeah, yeah

'The Beatles are The Spys' story is even more preposterous than the 'XTC
are The Spys' story. Even if it were true, can you imagine Paul McCartney
and George Harrison talking like that? And having gone to the effort of
recording it, can you imagine them not mentioning it to anyone? Personally,
I think it was Elvis. And maybe Hendrix on guest guitar.

As far as I know The La's have split up. But one of their members - their
bass player, I think - John Power, has got his own band called Cast who are
enjoying a certain amount of indie success here in the UK. Their album is
called All Change and is released on Polydor. More tuneful guitar pop, as
is once again fashionable over here (just at the point when XTC show the
least sign of having an album in the shops of course).

Mark Fisher (fisher@easynet.co,uk)

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 12:25:49 -0500 (EST)
From: heller megan j <mjhell@mail.wm.edu>
Subject: re: "Millions"

Okay, I didn't want to get into this, but I just have to throw
something.  As I've been reading this dialogue regarding "Millions," I
find myself wondering if many of the people around here understand the
use of satire and stereotype as a tool of satire.  I have never gotten
the impression from any of Partridge's other songs that he honestly had
these stereotypical views.  I had always gotten the idea that he used the
stereotypical language to make a point--he was trying to show how many,
many Westerners tend to see people in Asian countries.  People in Asian
countries, China in particular, are seen as backward and impressionable.
This is why large cigarette companies in the eighties saw Asian countries
as prime markets for smokers when smoking started going out of fashion in
the U.S.  Then there are those who want to "help" by implementing the
"progress" of the West, but are guilty of the same stereotypes.  As I
said, I always got the impression that Partridge was satirizing these
stereotypes, rather than adapting them.  Just my $.02.

megan h.

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 10:13:13 -0800
From: wine@shell.wco.com (Glenn Siegel- The Wine Spectrum, Inc.)
Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-46

Books Are Burning- Andy Partridge
G
Books are burning
          D                     E
In the main square, and I saw there
             Am D
The fire eating the text
               G
Books are burning
         D
In the still air
              E
And you know where they burn books
Am         D
People are next
Em     A              F                  G
I believe the printed word should be forgiven
Em         A           F    G
Doesn't matter what it said
Em          A           F                G
Wisdom hotline from the dead back to the living
Bb               F         C         D
Key to the larder for your heart and head
          G
Books are burning
       D                  E
In our own town, watch us turn 'round
             Am          D
And cast our glances elsewhere
          G
Books are burning
       D
In the playground
         E                   Am         D
Smell of burnt book is not unlike human hair
Em     A              F                 G
I believe the printed word is more than sacred
Em         A                F   G
Beyond the gauge of good or baaad
Em        A                 F                 G
The human right to let your soul fly free and naked
Bb               F        C           D
Above the violence of the fearful and sad
E             G
The church of matches
Bb         F              D
Anoints in ignorance with gasoline
E             G
The church of matches
Bb           F                D
Grows fat by breathing in the smoke of dreams
      D
It's quite obscene

          G
Books are burning
          D              E
More each day now, and I pray now
              Am            D
You boys will tire of these games
          G
Books are burning
       D                  E
I hope somehow, this will allow
          Am          D
A phoenix up from the flames

Repeat G D E Am D

Note: On the D chord which comes after the G in the verses, try playing it
with an F# in the bass.

Enjoy!
Glenn Siegel
Sebastopol, Sonoma County, California

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 12:46:49 -0600
From: Scott Anderson <scandcar@dpc.net>
Subject: TD For Trade!

 Hello all! For those outside of the US who are having any trouble
finding the TD cd I have an extra copy that I would love to trade! No
cash involved please..  A cd from your country that i want gets you a
copy of the Testimonial Dinner CD.

                Thank You,  Scott Anderson.

                            scandcar@dpc.net

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