Chalkhills Digest Volume 13, Issue 22
Date: Sunday, 20 May 2007
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 13, Number 22
Sunday, 20 May 2007
Topics:
Nevermore
Barbara Ann, Nanette, and Alice had it worst
lady bird, mother's day
opinions are good - here's mine
Cue Basil Brush
Dear God
XTC in Word
Interview with Andy at CMJ
monstrance ramblings
interview at CMJ
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:58:08 +0200 From: don device <device@noos.fr> Subject: Nevermore Message-ID: <91F0AB1B-421C-4375-93A7-454169AA31B1@noos.fr> Quoth the Ryan; Ryan Anthony wrote: "Am I right in thinking that it would be somewhat less difficult to go through life as an XTC fan named Nigel than as a Beach Boys fan named Barbara Ann?" Quoth the Hayden; Imagine growing up a Beatles fan named Jude. Then don device said; Check out the Dear Prudence comumn in Slate online this week. A girl writes in because she's sick of hearing a certain Bealtes song everytime she introduces herself. Her name? Rita. xo, dd ps: I don't write this stuff, I just report it.
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 01:18:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Ryan Anthony <hamsterranch@yahoo.com> Subject: Barbara Ann, Nanette, and Alice had it worst Message-ID: <600187.36815.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> With all due respect to Chalksiblings Jude Hayden and Nigel Turner, both of whom doubtless went through hell when cute British pop foursomes released catchy tunes with their first names in the titles, I still think no one had it worse than Beach Boys fans named Barbara Ann. Unless you were a teenage girl named Nanette in the 1920s. Or -- thank you, Reginald Dwight! -- Alice in the early '70s. Nigel, I can tell you had no intention to taunt me, in Digest 13-21, when you made a political point pertaining to an issue that lights this Hill up like Guy Fawkes Day whenever it is broached. You simply stated your opinion, which is the default position in this fanbase, not even imagining that there is a legitimate opposing view, or that this Chalkbro might hold that view, or that I might actually keep my teeth pressed into my tongue in an effort to avoid taking the bait dangled in front of me by those who do not tolerate dissent. Do I ignore the bait out of self-preservation? Nah. As some idiot American cowboy once said, "There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result." No, sorry, that wasn't some idiot American cowboy, it was Churchill. The real reason for restraint is that I want to see Chalkhills continue, regardless of what the Messrs. Partridge, Moulding, et al., do or fail to do. Chalkhills dies if John Relph loses his motivation to keep it alive -- and John never sounds so tired and depressed as when he is finally compelled to break up firefights over political issues, one in particular, that have nothing to do with XTC. So I'll content myself with this gentle-as-possible rejoinder to the innocent Chalkbro Nigel. When a third of your Green and Pleasant Land rises up and tells you to choose Shariah law or death, and you think that's a lousy offer because you'll never see a girl's face, or drink good wine, or hear beautiful music again either way, and you decide to take a stand on behalf of the values of the West, I hope British Steel, flush with inventory after all the melting-down it has been doing, will fill your hand with, at the very least, a sword. Ryan Anthony An independent Internet content provider P.S.: Now reading: *Inside the Yellow Submarine: The Making of The Beatles' Animated Classic* by Robert R. Hieronimus. As much as I love that movie, this is more than I wanted to know. Still, the pages pretty near turn themselves. It's all in the mind ...
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 05:19:30 -1000 From: Jim Smart <jimsmart1@mac.com> Subject: lady bird, mother's day Message-ID: <4B3C5026-8DE2-4797-B985-D0350B3A80C0@mac.com> Thanks Todd for another great interview with Andy. I have always enjoyed Ladybird, but until now I had no idea it referred to what we Yanks call a Lady Bug. So before the first question you two changed and expanded my idea about what the song is about. Wikipedia says "Coccinellidae is a family of beetles, known variously as ladybirds (British English and Australian English), ladybugs (North American English) or lady beetles (preferred by scientists). The word "lady" in the name is thought to allude to the Virgin Mary in the Roman Catholic faith." Who knew? Then Andy referenced a famous rhyme, which I also had been unaware of: The ladybird is immortalised in the still-popular children's nursery rhyme Ladybird, Ladybird: "Ladybird, ladybird, fly away home Your house is on fire and your children are gone All except one, and that's Little Anne For she has crept under the warming pan." Many variants exist, including one that seems ancient (recounted in an 1851 publication): "Dowdy-cow, dowdy-cow, ride away heame, Thy house is burnt, and thy bairns are tean, And if thou means to save thy bairns Take thy wings and flee away!" It's a beautiful piece of music that I'll listen to differently now. I love the relaxed way Andy and Todd approach these interviews. Todd is well versed in the material, but he lets the conversation go where it will. And Andy is so ready to be honest and let his own memories surprise him from time to time. It's working well, and I hope you two do every song eventually. I've been writing a bit of a song myself, in honor of mother's day, which a daft Hawaiian style video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wf1KpDWf8M aloha, Jim http://www.familysmart.blogspot.com/ http://myspace.com/jimsmartsongs
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jemiah Jefferson <jemiah@q7.com> Subject: opinions are good - here's mine Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705081038240.8916@q7.q7.com> I really love hip-hop music, and it is very significant to me. Just understand that certain recent statements do not represent a monolithic truth for every member of this list. I also really love "Baby's Got Back" and consider it to be a favorite song, and the shared love of that song has brought me many exceptional friendships and shared good times - and when I meet a gentleman who knows it by heart, believe me, it piques my interest. (Let us not get into the psychiatric implications of body type among women, but I did find Mix's take on the issue both funny and refreshing). And I don't agree that pop music is a lesser form of artistic achievement, and no, I don't agree that hip-hop hasn't evolved since it began (contrast Whodini's "Five Minutes of Funk" with Aesop Rock's "Float" or Buck 65's entire "Man Overboaard" album), and no I don't think that every single song by every single artist is good, no more so than I do about psychedelic pop or shoegaze or country or baroque. It is music and some of it's good and some of it isn't - and that which I consider to be good, I consider as some of the most personally significant music in my life. I understand that my opinions are, most likely, in a minority on this mailing list, but that makes it that much more important for me to throw my hat into the ring. Because, seriously, I am a fan, and it's important to me to speak my piece. It might mark me as a mental midget to take genuine emotional and cerebral enjoyment out of the sounds of someone twiddling a crossfade knob, or Weird Al Yankovich's "White and Nerdy", or the cartoon soundtracks of Carl Stalling. But there you have it. Also - I've got the name thing going on in two places - growing up in the 80's being nicknamed "Jem" (and even now, actually) and growing up in the 70s with the surname "Jefferson". I feel your pain, various Nigels, Ritas, and Judes.
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 01:15:00 +0000 From: <homefrontradio@hotmail.com> Subject: Cue Basil Brush Message-ID: <BAY128-W96AFDCC91DD650040DE3DD03B0@phx.gbl> >but not your fatuous promise to commit >sexual violence upon a musician. Musician? I thought we were talking about 'Sir Mixalot'. ;)
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:30:26 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Culnane <paulculnane@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Dear God Message-ID: <128323.86282.qm@web86910.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> My "bookmarks" facility is currently playing cat n' mouse with me, so when I had to manually type in the address of this site, I accidentally forgot the "s". This is what came up instead (click here and see): http://chalkhill.org/ Bless you PAUL Bad grammar is something up with which I will not put. Winston Churchill Paul Culnane ICE Productions Australia
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:02:29 +0100 (BST) From: STEPHEN JACKSON <planet_skaro@btinternet.com> Subject: XTC in Word Message-ID: <429459.18891.qm@web86401.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Quite a lot of xtc related gubbins in the excellent Word magazine. Firstly, XTC mentioned in a section on reformations of original line-ups. Conclusion: unlikely. Then there is an interview with AP in a feature on "mavericks" in the music business. Finally, there is a favourable review of "Monstrance" which concludes that it is "probably an excellent soundtrack for cooking, sex or staring into space." Steve
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:39:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Boyle <andybgator@yahoo.com> Subject: Interview with Andy at CMJ Message-ID: <774382.62864.qm@web51903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello, All. Still floating around. Not so much lurking but stalking. Just got this in my CMJ newsletter: http://prod1.cmj.com/articles/display_article.php?id=35547353 Most fun part of the article is when they misspell the album "Moonstrance". Short on editors, I guess. Andrew Orlando
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:01:14 +0000 From: "pop boy" <powerpopboy67@hotmail.com> Subject: monstrance ramblings Message-ID: <BAY127-F203CD55C0811D47295DE13AA330@phx.gbl> Anyone else heard Andy and Barry talking about Monstrance on the Ape podcast? They sound like two giggling teenagers. Very embarrassing. Were they pissed at the time? Bored? Who knows, but it makes for dire listening. Shame.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:07:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve <ste7phen@yahoo.com> Subject: interview at CMJ Message-ID: <114992.44584.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> this one may have already been posted... from CMJ... interview by Dan Macintosh http://prod1.cmj.com/articles/display_article.php?id=35547353 - another steve
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