Chalkhills Digest Volume 10, Issue 57
Date: Sunday, 5 December 2004
Chalkhills Digest, Volume 10, Number 57
Sunday, 5 December 2004
Topics:
Brian, Jesus, Wikipedia
Re: smiley faces
Round Two
if it were live
RE: Cornhole
Cool web site-check it out, you won't be sorry
Instant Gratification
Re: Verne Sketchbk
Columnated ruins domino!
Love Actualy
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:10:35 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff <blukoff@alvord.com> Subject: Brian, Jesus, Wikipedia Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0411302101460.3502-100000@vaal.killerlink.net> John Morrish <morrish@dircon.co.uk> wrote: > Brian is Jesus, or rather, the only Christ we deserve... > Which leaves Mike Love, inevitably, as Judas. Makes sense: The Beach Boys' sound just wouldn't have been the same without Mike (one definitely hears echoes of him on the new "Smile")--Mike was one of the "instruments" Brian wrote for. Similarly, though Judas is seen as an evil, treacherous man, according to the story he was an indispensable part of God's plan. After all, without the crucifixion, no resurrection, and without Judas, no crucifixion... ! Anyway... Then, Harrison Sherwood wrote: > Wiki[pedia's] idea of "peer review" appears to be, "sling it up there > and see if some other fungus-encrusted obsessive complains." I mean, As a sometimes Wikipedian (mostly confining myself to articles dealing with Seattle and related topics, though neither fungus-encrusted nor obsessive) I can confirm that that's exactly their idea of peer review. So some articles are bound to be better than others. But you'd be surprised at the accuracy and thoroughness of some... > that wacky Wikipedia and the tricky-wicky-wacky-woo!* Check their entry > for "XTC" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTC) -- one quick readthrough > yields at least two immediate howlers... > I think we should leave the errors in, as eternal evidence that the > Wikipedia is as reliable as a red-aproned Scotsman (little Masonic > humor, there, heh-heh: http://www.bilderberg.org/). The XTC article is substandard because no one has bothered to fix it! Why not fix it yourself, thereby incrementally bringing up the standard of the whole encyclopedia? Ben Lukoff
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:12:08 +0530 From: "Sughosh Varadarajan" <aqualung@hotpop.com> Subject: Re: smiley faces Message-ID: <004f01c4d781$a87799e0$c000a8c0@internal.directi.com> > From: ste7phen@cox.net > > Many of us I suspect have been patient with the Brian Wilson > posts. We're safely past the initial infatuation period so a little > criticism shouldn't be too hurtful. > > My personal favorite beach boy song has always been Back > In The USSR : ) > > ...and quite frankly, XTC kicks "arse" on the beach boys. > > In these times of escalating atrocities some xtc lyrics with > their superb rock have sustained me. I will agree with (almost) all of this, not having heard Smile yet. But if it is anything like the (IMHO) horrendously overhyped and undeserving piece of pretty mediocrity known as "Pet sounds", I have no doubts whatsoever that my name can be safely added to above list. XTC kicks arse on the Beach boys, all right. Several times over. To me, having to admit to Wilson's genius because Andy owes a lot to him, is kinda like saying I should love Elvis because Paulie does, or John Lee Hooker because Van The Man does. Andy may have been inspired by Wilson, but what he does in terms of extending Wilson's ideas far supercede the "original". Will listen to Smile anyway and see if my opinion changes. Cheers Sughosh
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:50:54 -0800 From: Phil Corless <phil@pkmeco.com> Subject: Round Two Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20041201014740.01c83a80@pop.mindspring.com> I'm still selling off my CD collection... It's taking much longer than I thought. To everyone who wrote to me... No, I'm not dying. And no, I haven't gone insane. Another few hundred discs are up on eBay: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&include=0&since=-1&rdir=0&rows=200&userid=philkar You can keep picking my bones well into January, as that's how long it will take to rid my home of every last CD I can find. - Phil
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Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 06:27:45 -0600
From: "Kevin Brunkhorst" <brunkhorstk@hotmail.com>
Subject: if it were live
Message-ID: <BAY15-F118D79CE8B5B26E4C0DE5BB6BF0@phx.gbl>
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:59:06 EST, Telehead@aol.com (Warren in Sacramento)
writes:
There was a time when all I could think about was seeing an XTC
show. By and by, I realized that the show was in the recordings
... why have "Wrapped In Grey" fucked up by a tour weary throat or a
sudden blast of monitor feedback? That shit happens, and while I would
always have the recording to go back to, I would also have the
unfortunate live glitch to think about ... much like I always remember
Steve Howe fucking up the guitar part in Going For The One when I saw
Yes on that tour.
And I respond:
We go to the circus in hopes of seeing the trapeze artist miss and fall to
the net. We don't consciously wish for something to fuck up, but we DO want
a unique experience. What if instead of a blast of feedback, Andy and
whoever accompanied him (we're in a perfect world here, so hear me out)
delivered a 'Wrapped in Grey' so powerful that you had no choice but to
burst into tears? (And then dropped the microphone on the floor and ran
off.)
When you say Steve fucked up Going For The One, what do you mean? Was he
exactly one fret short and one beat behind on each note? Did it seem that
HE believed he fucked up? Maybe he was being wildly creative. I don't want
my live experience to be simply a louder copy of the CD - I consider that a
lousy concert. (IMHO, the Cocteau Twins might be the worst live band ever,
followed closely by Squeeze.) Too many bands have made a living simply
going out there and sounding like their recordings - until it became obvious
that they could simply play WITH their recorded backing tracks, and then you
have... the state of things now in pop music.
Two posts in one week, after lurking for, um... maybe a couple of years.
Canada is not an exciting place to live.
Kevin Brunkhorst
Professor, Department of Music
St. Francis Xavier University
http://www.kevinbrunkhorst.com
"The people who own this country ought to be able to run it."
- John Jay (1745-1829), first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the US
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:43:54 -0700 From: "Thomas Vest" <tvtwo@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Cornhole Message-ID: <BAY18-F3473B5B58AF294743DB52EA1BF0@phx.gbl> Hello Chalkfriendsters! Our esteemed Mr. Sherwood wrote in 10-56: ----------->And speaking of butthole-compulsives, what is *up* with the er, *cloacal* turn things have taken around this joint? I'm as skeptical as the next Mason, but when two succeeding Chalkhills posts, sent from disparate parts of the globe within an hour of each other, each uses the word "cornhole" in its title, I say it's more than a coincidence! I hereby declare an Astro-Glide Weekend and slip the surly bonds of earth! Make mine a mimosa!<-- Well, as usual with many of his postings, I was lauthing my ass off about the cornhole / Astro-Glide thing and then i remembered that I saw an article Yahoo! a few weeks ago about a game called...... yes, if you can believe: Cornhole !!!!!!! I sent the linkto the article to a good friend of mine in South Carolina and within the hour, I received an emphatic-- dare i say enthusiastic response to it. He says they are playing it up near Clemson University on just about every weekend. Google the word "cornhole", and you will find the top hit concerning that very game is: The American Cornhole Association. http://www.playcornhole.org/ Take a look at the hats and shirts link on the left side of the main page. I gotta get me one of those hats... Cheers! Tv
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:28:38 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com> Subject: Cool web site-check it out, you won't be sorry Message-ID: <20041202072839.98763.qmail@web51705.mail.yahoo.com> I just stumbled upon this web site: http://www.newwavephotos.com/index.htm It contains over 19,000 photos of new wave/punk bands taken from the late '70's to the early '80's, all taken by the same person. A real blast from the past, and some really obscure bands as well. The coolest part is 61 photos of XTC, taken between '77 and '79, including onstage and backstage shots, and about a dozen or so photos of the band circa '78 wandering around in Brussels. I don't think I've seen any of them before, so it was a treat finding them. Just be warned-if you're like me you'll spend way too much time browsing this site and ignoring your work! Tyler
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:57:45 -0800 (PST) From: "Brent D" <oreo.rasta@canada.com> Subject: Instant Gratification Message-ID: <20041203095746.25135.h000.c009.wm@mail.canada.com.criticalpath.net> Hi all Just popped over to the new i-tunes site in Canada. I still have dial-up so I won't be a big shopper. Here's one thing I read: "Instant Gratification Forget About Shrink-wrap If you've ever been frustrated by Compact Disc packaging, welcome to the age of digital music. No broken fingernails, no tape sticking to your fingers. Just good clean music, delivered straight to iTunes." I guess I'm old. I like record covers, record labels, CD booklets etc. Stores sell fancy surround sound yada yada entertainment systems but people play inferior quality downloads on them. I don't get it. >From the 7" to the i-pod. For all you folks with children, can you imagine them putting on any 45, sitting down to listen to the 3 minute ditty, getting up to flip the record over, cuing it up then sitting down to listen to the flipside? I still play records in my house. I have the Sesame Street Christmas LP & CD. They are somewhat different. Pre-Elmo & post-Elmo. My daughter (5) asked me to "Put on Side One Daddy" instead of "Put it on". That made me chuckle. Nowadays, music is an 'it' to most people. As valuable as toilet paper. Pull, use, flush. Download, listen, delete. Happy Holiday Brent
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Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:24:15 -0500
From: John Relph <relph@tmbg.org>
Subject: Re: Verne Sketchbk
Message-ID: <16816.55679.358704.62584@f5.idiot-dog.com>
RSMko@webtv.net (Marston Moor) sez:
>
> category A: anybody know if all jules vernes sbook songs are now
> officially out on Fuzzwarbs discs? surely by now it's completely
> covered, i haven't yet checked. am i lazy? or a foockin cornhole? (that
> mervsparks antipost was the ginchiest glitch!)
The short answer is NO.
The longer answer is:
Young Cleopatra FWv5
Motorcycle Landscape FWv5 (extended)
Happy Families N/A
Glow N/A
Moonlit Drive FWv6
Broomstick Rhythm FVw5
Work FWv3
Ra Ra for Red Rocking Horse FWv2
Disque Bleu N/A
Mopti Fake FWv3
Little Lighthouse FWv3
When We Get to England FWv3
Shaking Skin House FWv6
Obscene Procession FWv2 (different version)
Dripping Basin N/A
So there are still four demos remaining to be released, and even then
it won't be exactly Jules Verne's Sketchbook. "Obscene Procession" is
very different on FWv2, and I much prefer the JVS version.
-- John
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 05:37:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Culnane <paulculnane@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Columnated ruins domino! Message-ID: <20041205053743.70786.qmail@web86905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Just watching an interview with Henry Rollins, rivetting stuff! FWIW, the interviewer, James Griffin, was someone I recorded demos with in the late 70s. It must be said, ABC-TV in Oz is (arguably) unsurpassable, and on a Sunday afternoon, presents the most fantastic stuff. I mean, bugger the bloody cricket, you can watch that anyday if you want... This small interlude with Henry followed a fascinating 2-hour doco on (yes, here he comes again) Brian Wilson and the genesis of SMiLE. If it wasn't enough to have one's psyche profoundly altered by the actual concert (and I'll leave it to Dunks to present his eloquent review, because I'm still gobsmacked and feeling comfortably feeble), here I stumble across a wonderful account, with a cast of characters including Carol Kaye, Hal Blaine and many others. Footage of Brian performing "Surf's Up" at the piano - at the time! Migosh, a fabulous visual and aural feast. And then they had excerpts from the London SMiLE concert itself! It was funny to see Macca being a groupie, but even more weird to see Brian being in awe in his presence. Brian is not a nutter, I'm convinced, just damaged goods. Special mention to the genious and magnanimity (?) of Darian Sahananja who brought this to fruition. He has a cute SMiLE shirt, among other favourable assets, and at the concert I was so close I could just about see up his very pretty nostrils. Brian Wilson makes music to move you to (happy) tears, that's enough for me (and the whole prospect makes me SMiLE)... Post-script: Fat slag harridan she-bitch in the flat below me was away this weekend. Opportunity to indulge a bit. Recipe? "Nonsvch" louder than you might normally. Try it if you can, forget about "cold icy blasts" - this elpee rawks when you have it on hard! "Art is never finished, only abandoned" ~ Leonardo Da Vinci Lurve Porl
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 12:18:58 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Greenleaf <ojaverde@pacbell.net> Subject: Love Actualy Message-ID: <20041205201858.47490.qmail@web81407.mail.yahoo.com> I was watching the DVD of Love Actualy last week and decided to peruse the Extra Features. I was watching the interview with director Richard Curtis(Also the writer for The British TV Series Blackadder) about how he chose the music for the film and it seems his original choice for a song to be played over the last scene in the Heathrow Airport was none other than The Loving by XTC. It seems that the song didn't quite fit because it was a bit too loud rocking for the scene. Instaed he used God Only Knows by the Beach Boys. Intersesting coincidence considering all the talk of late about Smile and Brian Wilson. Not bad company to be in for either. Back to lurking,Richard Subscribe please.
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