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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 57

                 Sunday, 30 November 2003


                 Re: Milk And Honey Band?
       What is the address for the Wish List again?
                      Kings & Beans
                  Re: Neural Connections
                    My Top 10 For 2003
                  The Lowdown on Orpheus
                 The hits keep on comin'
                 ATOMICA live 30/11/03...


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Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:47:29 -0600
From: steve <>
Subject: Re: Milk And Honey Band?
Message-ID: <>

On Nov 22, 2003, at 8:16 PM, Richard wrote:

> Andy called to say that he had received the package but was neck
> deep in Milk And Honey and wouldn't get to them very soon.  BTW, he
> says The Milk And Honey Band CD will be an enduring classic.

Richard, can you tell us more about the album?

- Steve


Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:13:00 -0800
From: "WAYNE KLEIN" <>
Subject: What is the address for the Wish List again?
Message-ID: <>

>>Just got this new Multiple Sclerosis charity elpee, "The Wish List"
- it's a decent listen I must say.  Steve Somerset who put it
together, and features twice with his band The Shadow Kabinet, has
done a fine job, congrats Steve.  There's something here for everyone
I'm sure.<<

Erased the last posting (by accident honest) with the address to order The
Wish List. Any chance someone can pass it along again?

The Talking Heads Once In A Lifetime anthology boxed set it pretty good. A
couple of previously unreleased alternate takes, 1 previously unreleased gem
and remastered sound (plus a DVD). Maybe this is how Virgin should have
issued Coat (then we would have had the videos on DVD...).

To everyone in America--Happy Thanksgiving!


Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:15:17 -0500
From: "Mark & Barb Kirk" <>
Subject: Kings & Beans
Message-ID: <005901c3b1b3$13d563c0$0f5e6618@home>

Hello 'Hillians,

I've been a long-time lurker here, though I very rarely post... but I've
been meaning to cast my two bits into the pot regarding the 'King For A Day'
set for quite some time. First off, "Thank You Richard!" for making it
happen and thanks to all who contributed to this labour of love... as far as
I'm concerned it's quite possibly the best tribute collection I've ever
heard. I'd be interested to hear how many of us have taken the time to burn
the entire collection onto a set of discs, and how they went about doing
For myself, I used the random order file with some extras added here and
there (the X-StaTiC and Cobweb Theatre tracks that the bands have so kindly
offered up on their sites). Seven discs in total, and the general flow is
outstanding - you know, there really isn't a dull moment over the entire
collection. Well, okay - occasionally there's a bit of a rough spot here and
there... but the cringe level doesn't last too long. You're tapping your toe
and hummin' happy again in no time!
To finish the set off I spent some time on the artwork using portraits of
Medieval Monarchs that I snagged from the Governments Official Site...
overall, it really turned out nice and the set sits with pride on the XTC
shelf in my music room.

I received 'The Wish List' during the past week and gave it a listen on
Friday night... not bad at all. 'Open a Can (Of Human Beans)' will
definitely grow on me - catchy tune (of course), but not really as Dukeified
as I expected. I think it's more along the lines of the mythical Bubblegum
Album that never was. I'm sure the more I listen to it, the psychedelia will
begin to drip out of the speakers and into my consciousness...
And as Mr. Partridge posted a while back, the whole disc itself is a winner.
The first three tracks sound like they could be part of a topnotch UK Psych
compilation along the lines of the Rubble, Jagged Time Lapse and Fading
Yellow volumes. All this and a worthy cause too!
You know, it's been a very good year hasn't it?



Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:14:47 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: North/Costello
Message-ID: <>

on 11/22/03 10:16 PM, someone wrote:

> As to EC's latest, well it's an acquired taste.

  Haven't heard a note of North yet, but I thought When I Was Cruel was his
strongest album in quite a while, at least since All This Useless Beauty,
which hung together quite well considering most of the songs were leftovers
he'd written some time before, kind of a songwriter's housecleaning. From
there you'd have to go back to Blood And Chocolate. But on paper North's
jazz base isn't too much of a stretch, he's never done a whole album of
jazzy stuff before, but he's shown that side of himself before, such as his
cover of "My Funny Valentine" and "Almost Blue" from Imperial Bedroom which
was covered most movingly by Chet Baker in the Let's Get Lost soundtrack. We
just haven't had a whole album of him in that style before, I'll take that
over Almost Blue the album or The Juliet Letters any day.

  Besides, revisits to his old style have been rather uneven; Blood And
Chocolate worked because the Attractions hadn't been apart for more than a
couple of years at that point, but the early 90's reunion was real uneven,
two or three good songs, the rest nothing to write home about. Replacing
Bruce Thomas, as good a bass player as he was, was a good move, the result
was When I Was Cruel, both familiar sounding, yet also very contemporary


Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:21:50 -0800 (PST)
From: pancho artecona <>
Subject: Re: Neural Connections
Message-ID: <>

Hey 'hillers

"Big Geoff has come up with what I humbly regard as
the best theory of consciousness and brain function
yet devised. I heartily recommend his book "The
Remembered Present". An easy read it ain't, but you'll
come out the other end knowing more about the brain
than you ever knew before ... plus it will give you
great ammo to use against all those ninnies who argue
for the laughable "brain as computer" theory."

I will have to look that one up. My kind of pleasure

If you like Sacks you will probably like Harold
Klawans, a neurologist from Rush in Chicago who has a
bunch of books on interesting neurological cases. I'd
recommend 'Toscanninni's Fumble', 'Why Michael
Couldn't Hit' and  'Chekov's Lie' as starters. Just be
aware that some of his later books (eg-'Defending the
Cavewoman') have a lot of repeated histories. His
style is drier than Sacks but his histories are quite

Another great neuroscientist IMO is Anthony Damasio
from UCLA. 'Descartes Error' is quite good and covers
a lot of recent work on memory, conscioussness and the
brain/emotion interface.

Finally, Steven Pinker from MIT has great books on
language and cognitive sciences in general. He is a
neurolinguist with a strong Chomskian bent. He too
attacks the 'brain as computer' ninnies.

I just got the King for a Day compilation. Very
I love 'Then She Appeared', 'Crocodile' among others
(still working my way through the extensive
Vreeland has that Partridge guitar sound
DOWN!...pretty impressive.
And 'The Last Balloon' is spot on.

Favorite band name is 'The Deuterium Kidz'. If their
drummer leaves they can always become 'The Tritium



Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:52:53 -0800 (PST)
From: travis schulz <>
Subject: My Top 10 For 2003
Message-ID: <>

I always look forward to the top ten lists of the year
on chat lists like this so I will get the ball rolling
and hopefully get others to follow my lead.....
10.  Indigenous-Indigenous
 9.  Blur-Think Tank
 8.  Rooney-Rooney
 7.  White Stripes-Elephant
 6.  Thorns-Thorns
 5.  Tori Amos-Scarlet's walk
 4.  Fountains of Wayne-Welcome Interstate Managers
 3.  John Hiatt and The Goners-Beneath This Gruff Exterior
 2.  Richard Thompson-The Old Kit Bag
 1.  Van Morrison-What's Wrong With This Picture

I also discovered Miles Davis this past year but be
careful if you try Kind of Blue by him cause you may
want to buy about thirty of his other albums.  May
2004 be better with new albums by Wilco, Ben Folds,
and maybe even XTC.


Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:04:45 -0500
From: John Relph <>
Subject: The Lowdown on Orpheus
Message-ID: <>

Folks, now lists Orpheus - The Lowdown as being released on 23
February 2004 in the UK:

Has anybody attempted to obtain the Japanese release?  Pony Canyon's
documentation indicates it has been released:

Happy Thanksgiving!

	-- John


Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:58:35 -0800
From: "WAYNE KLEIN" <>
Subject: The hits keep on comin'
Message-ID: <>

The year has nearly ended (well, only 6 weeks to go give or take a couple of
days). I went to to see who was on their top 100 list. Obviously
I'm getting old. Only 4 of the artists on the list are anybody I'd want to
spend an afternoon with. So a sort of top 10 list for 2003 for me anyway:

  1.. The Wind - Warren Zevon
  2.. Welcome Interstate Managers - Fountains of Wayne
  3.. World Without Tears -Lucinda Williams
  4.. Old Kit Bag -Richard Thompson
  5.. Let It Be..Naked - The Beatles
  6.. Fuzzy Warbles Volume 4 - you already know who
  7.. Live At The Apollo Theater - Roxy Music
  8.. North -Elvis Costello
  9.. Want One - Rufus Wainwright
  10.. Electric Version - New Pornographers
  11.. Rainy Day Music - The Jayhawks
  1.. Judee Sill
  2.. Marque Moon - Television
  3.. Once In A Lifetime - Talking Heads
  4.. Adventure - Television
  5.. No Other -Gene Clark
  6.. Get Happy! -Elvis Costello and The Attractions
  7.. Trust -Elvis Costello and The Attractions
  8.. Goodbye Yellowbrick Road - Elton John (SACD)
  9.. Heart Food - Judee Sill
I'm sure I might even of had more new releases but can't recall everything
that came out this year. I hate to say it but most of the stuff I'm enjoying
is by older artists. SACD sounds great as does DVD-Audio but they should all
be backwards compatible. They are, of course, an attempt to make us buy the
same stuff we bought before. This time I'm being more selective. Most of the
stuff being reissued just doesn't interest me to pick up again.


Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:37:11 +1100 (EST)
From: atomica atomica <>
Subject: ATOMICA live 30/11/03...

Dear People,

ATOMICA have a gig this Sunday evening.

Where: Key Largo
Cnr Terrigal dr and Kurrawyba av Terrigal.
( Underground Crowne Plaza )

Who with: The Superjesus and Starky

Date: Sunday 30th Nov

Doors open: 8pm

Hope you can make it, ATOMICA.

Ps. If you can't wait till Sunday check out:


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