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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 39

                   Monday, 28 July 2003

Topics:

                  Re: Victor the Heretic
                        questions:
           Similarly shattered Wasps and Apples
            Fuzzy Whining -- Oranges & Lemons
                     Pitchfork review
                        New Stuff
                        Re: Heresy
                 7 Future Virgin Releases
                Crispy Ambulance re-issue
                    Victor the Heretic
Re: Mike Keneally, Andy Partridge and Dave Gregory in The Shed
                    Warbles and Heresy
                   Fuzzy Rip Offs Alert

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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:39:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: RSMko@webtv.net (Marston Moor)
Subject: Re: Victor the Heretic
Message-ID: <24426-3F1ED66D-786@storefull-2233.public.lawson.webtv.net>

victor@pechanga.net Victor the Heretic Roach said:

< < "I hate to be a heretic but I won't buy anything off the Idea
Records or APE websites until they have the prices in US dollars."
"I like to know how much I'm paying when I buy something. I have neither
the time or the desire to look all over the web for a currency
converter. I complained last year and they said they would recitfy the
problemo but no such luck." > >

oh please forgive me, big banker in the sky, but i find this
'intolerance' attitude ridiculously hilarious!!!!

pockets bulging with poundnotes, ears empty of soundnotes. you make the
call.

pay to play,
marston

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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:41:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nicole Ross <drmomross@yahoo.com>
Subject: questions:
Message-ID: <20030723184116.86217.qmail@web14903.mail.yahoo.com>

what is *your* definition of "bad music".

what is *your* definition of "good music".

Just curious about the answers...

-Nicole

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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:17:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lore Guilmartin <loreguilmartin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Similarly shattered Wasps and Apples
Message-ID: <20030723211701.69659.qmail@web40406.mail.yahoo.com>

Don <ddevice@hotmail.com> wrote, wondering if anyone
else had experienced problems with the flimsy cases on
the latest XTC/AP releases.  Well, yes, Don, you are
not alone!  I'd been frustrated to find that those
little flange things in the center of the case, that
hold the CD itself in place, were all snapped off when
"Apple Venus Vol 1" arrived in the mail, leaving the
disc to rattle around and get scratched.  And the case
for "Wasp Star" fell completely apart in record time.

I won't stop buying our boys' recordings, of course,
but I'm disappointed at the low quality of the disc's
packaging.  Especially given that XTC/AP music is
music to save and treasure.

Lore

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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:51:41 -0400
From: Andisheh Nouraee <andy@andy2000.org>
Subject: Fuzzy Whining -- Oranges & Lemons
Message-ID: <399EB91A-BD60-11D7-B4EE-0030656DE446@andy2000.org>

Geez, people.

One of you is upset that an English Web site sells goods priced in
English currency. Keep in mind that, if you're in the U.S., that the
exact price that you pay for your U.K.-purchased goods depends on the
exchange rate that your credit card gives you. Ape or Idea can list an
approximate price in dollars, but it won't be exact.

And another guy is annoyed that CD jewel cases sometimes arrived
damaged.

A CD jewel case damaged. I'm shocked.

Anyway.

If any of you out there own both the Japanese Mini-LP remaster of O&L
and the regular American, UK, or Canadian remaster -- can you tell me,
is King For A Day screwed up sounding on all versions, or just the
Japanese version?

Andy N.

***
Andisheh Nouraee
http://www.andy2000.org

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:46:50 +1000 (EST)
From: mark wotton <mwotton@rhialto.cse.unsw.edu.au>
Subject: Pitchfork review
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307241046230.29598-100000@rhialto.cse.unsw.edu.au>

anyone seen the review of fuzzy warbles 3&4 on pitchforkmedia.com?

mrak

--
you're so pretty when you're unfaithful to me
	-- Bone Machine, The Pixies

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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:38:15 EDT
From: RMuRocks@aol.com
Subject: New Stuff
Message-ID: <1d2.e53789e.2c509287@aol.com>

Thanks for the heads up on that new Marshall CD, moley. I saw it on
the list of new releases and made a mental note to check it out. Have
you heard it yet?

Also out and in the pop vein this week is a neat Lets Active tribute,
containing a few of the familiar names that played the NC 80's
Southeast scene with Mitch Easter & co. They do almost ALL of my
favorite Let's Active tunes! You can hear some samples at:

	http://www.every-word.com/mp3.html

Speaking of new stuff, I like FW #2 better than #1, now I'm chomping
at the bit to get #'s 3 & 4. BUT I will make this comment - I was a
bit dismayed that the length of the entire CD was less than 50
minutes, especially with this type of release and everything Andy has
in the closet. I don't mind the higher prices, but more content would
give it the feeling of being a better VALUE.

Bob

NP: Kelly Joe Phelps, "Slingshot Professionals"

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:25:44 -0500
From: "dunks58" <dunks58@milesago.com>
Subject: Re: Heresy
Message-ID: <200307240725.AA10027278@milesago.com>

Sheer bloody-mindedness, more like it, Victor.

May I suggest:

www.xe.com/ucc/

It took me ... ooooh ... all of 5 seconds to find it using Google, and
takes maybe 10 seconds max. to get the conversion ...

... which is probably a lot less time than you wasted writing and
sending your trivial complaining email to Andy, I'll wager!

Sheesh ... :P

Dunks

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:54:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Wes Long <optimismsflames@yahoo.com>
Subject: 7 Future Virgin Releases
Message-ID: <20030724175407.15281.qmail@web14907.mail.yahoo.com>

Kidz:

According to Andy - there are something like 9
releases slated to appear from the ever-so-generous
folkz at Virgin. Here are the 7 he told me about:

1: An Introduction to XTC - not really a greatest
hits... more of a greatest near-hits - the best of the
deeper cuts. Does that make anyone's bamboo curl? It
didn't make Colin's - if you haven't read the
interview...
http://www.optimismsflames.com/Interview1Colin.htm

2 & 3: Box sets of singles - all the singles,
remastered (of course, because they've *already* paid
for that) and released in cardboard sleeves, like the
Japanese remasters, that look like the 45 sleeves.
(Greatest hits... again, in a different package)

4. The 24 Hour XTC - a box set with songs separated by
mood... huh? Songs for the morning, afternoon and
evening - by XTC - that we've all already got three
copies of. This one *really* bothers me.

5 & 6: 25 O'clock & Psonic Psunspot - they came out
separately, then they were put together on CD - now
they are going to separate them again. Perhaps these
will have more extensive liner notes... who knows.
Sadly - I'm quite sure I'll end up with copies of
these... too much of a Dukes fan not to get ripped-off
here. Perhaps they will toss in some extra stuff too?
Nah - who am I kidding, this is Virgin we're talking
about.

7. The DVD... you've all heard about this by now,
right?

Sadly - due to a (Andy's words here) hidden clause in
the contracts for the Coat of Many Cupboards release,
XTC made less money than they did on their earlier
Virgin albums - *less* than they were making when they
went on strike. Thanks again, Virgin. As a result -
all the Virgin releases may be in a permanent holding
pattern while the two camps attempt, again, to come to
some sort of agreement.

The more things change...

wesLONG
http://www.optimismsflames.com

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 01:17:04 +0200
From: "hans stromberg" <hansstromberg@hotmail.com>
Subject: Crispy Ambulance re-issue
Message-ID: <Law15-F113jIL2jpWkf00004d53@hotmail.com>

> From: "Nicholson, Gary" <gnicholson@britannica.co.uk>
>
> A new (7th July 2003) collection, Rough Trade: Post Punk Vol.1
>includes 'This is Pop'? - The Langeified version rather than the
>Leckiefied version. It also includes 43 other songs, mainly from
>around 1977-1985, but with a few from the last couple of
>years. Featured Artists include Scritti, Politti, Blurt, Wire, The
>Flying Lizards, Swell Maps, Essential Logic and the great Crispy
>Ambulance.

From: Andrew Swainson <andrew.swainson@virgin.net>
>Surely this must be a mistake... someone other than myself with an
>appreciation of Manchester's most severely underrated band? I couldn't
>his post go by without comment - it's good to know it's not just me.

Unbelievable it is; two other human beings are talking about -
Crispy Ambulance! And you're one of them, Andrew! I'm beginning to
believe you're heavily into Wire, too ... Anyway, my first
experience of CA was their release of a twelve inch single in 1981,
Live on a Hot August Night, with the 11-12 minutes long  "The
Presence" on the A-side. I loved this tune so much that I was quite
disappointed with The Plateau Phase at first ... I remember thinking
that, of course this song never really ends, these guys don't want
it to end, all those wonderful guitars and all this magical monotony
... "I can hear you breathing ... I know you're there" ... the
lovely bass line, the brilliance of the opening and the ending of
the song - okey, it comes to end but what an end!

From: Andrew Swainson <andrew.swainson@virgin.net>
>Apart from the obvious exception, Crispy Ambulance are, for me, probably
>the most interesting band that came out of the Factory Records stable. Their
>brilliantly unfashionable album, The Plateau Phase, is the only album that I
>have played constantly for the last 20 or so years.

Yea, and I checked out www.crispyambulance.com - the CD re-issue of
The Platau Phase actually contains "The Presence" along with two
other bonus tracks! Good taste, I say.

Polar Bear

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:20:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Wes Long <optimismsflames@yahoo.com>
Subject: Victor the Heretic
Message-ID: <20030725142038.65157.qmail@web14904.mail.yahoo.com>

Save this link:

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

Problem solved.

wesLONG
http://www.optimismsflames.com

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:02:26 -0700
From: "Kerry Chicoine" <KChicoine@whitehat.com>
Subject: Re: Mike Keneally, Andy Partridge and Dave Gregory in The Shed
Message-ID: <001f01c352e7$abca7100$501a75ce@mailorder.com>

I'm cross-posting this with the permission of the original poster,
from the Mike Keneally list:

    =======

Ok, I wasn't there, but Mike jammed with Andy P and Dave Gregory on
Saturday 15th March 2003 in Andy's shed. I understand that Andy set up a lot
of loops and samples and much swapping of instruments took place jamming
on top. Lots of fun aparently.

Dave Gregory very generously drove Mike down to Swindon after the Kew
clinic and then from Swindon to Cardiff for the all too often mentioned
Cardiff gig on Sunday 16th March.  I had the slightly odd but still fun
experience of DAve and Mike sitting in my lounge  listening to "Black
Napkins/ The Deathless Horsie" from the Halloween DVD in surround and
listening to Mike and Dave discuss "XTC Song Stories" book, becauseI
keep the book in my kitchen.

I do believe I've mentioned what happened later that evening before, but
I  will say  now, once again, that Dave Gregory is a very nice man as
well as one hell of a musician.

> AP and MK are apparently going to try to write together later this year?
> oh my.

So I'm told.

    =======

Tasty.

kErrY kOMpOsT

www.mp3.com/kompost
www.m-blog.com/kompost
www.receiveronline.com

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Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:18:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: <adam@4bitterguys.com>
Subject: Warbles and Heresy
Message-ID: <12158.203.127.99.53.1059347884.squirrel@squirrelmail.4bitterguys.com>

Warbles 3 and 4 are utterly, utterly exceptional.  I'm continually amazed
that the material this bloke *doesn't* release is still better than
anything I've heard from anyone else in years.  Why this music doesn't
catch on is beyond me, but it's probably more fun being unique in that
respect.  I'm not sure I'd like to wake up and see Lightheaded sharing the
top of the singles charts with Christina Aguilera and The Ketchup Song.
Urgh-h-h.

Victor Rocha wrote:
> I hate to be a heretic but I won't buy anything off the
> Idea Records or APE websites until they have the prices
> in US dollars.
>
> I like to know how much I'm paying when I buy something.
> I have neither the time or the desire to look all over
> the web for a currency converter. I complained last year
> and they said they would recitfy the problemo but no
> such luck.

It's not a 'problem'.  Despite what you may believe, the US is not the
centre of the universe.  As an Australian I'm forever converting foreign
currencies to my local currency.  It's very easy.  People in scores of
countries do it all the time without any trouble.  Do you complain to US
websites that don't provide prices in Thai bhat or Egyptian pounds?

Depriving yourself of music this divine over something that trivial and
stupid really is cutting off your own nose to spite your face.  Hopefully
you'll get over your own mystifying hubris and just pay US$16.50 for the
bloody things.

Adam

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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:23:43 +0100
From: "Dave Smith" <ds003d1857@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Fuzzy Rip Offs Alert
Message-ID: <IGEEJFHKELOHNILGLHPFEEHFCDAA.ds003d1857@blueyonder.co.uk>

Sir

I must wholeheartedly concur with all those who have been telling the
real truth about the poorly disguised rip-off that is the Fuzzy
Warbles set.

My Fuzzy Warbles discs 3 & 4 arrived yesterday. I absolutely love
them.

Although they were very expensive. Nearly 0.8% of my entire take-home
salary for the month.

And I had to surf the web for almost 13.6 seconds to find their Thai
Baht value.

And the cases are *just a little* too see-through for my liking.

And one of them scratched my eye, when I head-butted it to test its
durability.

And when I dropped an attache case on them they broke my damn case!

And I'm *pretty sure* that Andy was thinking negative thoughts about
me personally (and probably Colin too) when he signed them.

Ape, you bastards!

Smudgeboy

NP: Run To The Chalkhills - Irony Maiden

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