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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 31

                   Monday, 23 June 2003


         The Loser's Lounge, plus special guests!
                Re Bands on the decline...
                 Dom In a Tutu/Correction
                   Level 42 Vs Bleurgh
           LITTLE EXPRESS back issues for sale
                   Playing Hard To Get
                Your Basic Fuzzy Question
                    Fountains of Wayne
                     Re: Stegosaurus
            Barry Andrews American Tour Dates
                       I'm burnin'
                 Fwd: Re: XTC invocation
                       fuzzy logic
               1 if by hand - 2 if buy DVD
                Another X-sTatiC thankyou
Absolute XTC & Subpoenaed Lemur @ Rendezvous - Monday, June 23rd


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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:13:09 -0400
From: "" <>
Subject: The Loser's Lounge, plus special guests!
Message-ID: <>


I'd also like to wholeheartedly rave about the tribute shows that
were done by The Loser's Lounge troupe over the last week. I saw
three of them. They were that good.

Hardly any details were overlooked, and as mentioned before,
that included some guy jumping up on stage at the end of "My Love Explodes"
to complain in a Woody Allen-esque voice just like on the record.

That guy was me.

No, it was not an abomination. ;-)



Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 23:37:33 +0100
From: "jonhd" <>
Subject: Re Bands on the decline...
Message-ID: <000601c331fc$61d38e80$ca01a8c0@two>

Wayne invites us to populate a new thread.

Straight to the meat, er, that is to say, no beating about the bush (or
prevarication). In fact, to avoid getting long-winded (I don't know
about you, but I can't stand those posts that wallow in
self-aggrandising, pompous, prolix verbosity - and, yet, contain the
germ of a nascent quantum leap in the [hyperbolic] future
zeitgeist...which, of course, is cruelly ignored, in favour of
superficial doggerel, - I won't name names here), and unnecessarily
devious, here, without further ado (apart from the grammatically
emphatic colon) is my contribution (with a big apology for the UK
slant), a brief extract from a list of thousands:

Soft Machine - nothing post "Volume Two"
Kid Loco - nothing post "A Grand Love Story"
Little Feat - nothing post "Sailin' Shoes"
Stevie Wonder - after "Talkin' Book " is pure Gak
Psychedelic Furs - "Talk Talk Talk" they then "went American"
(apologies, America)
Black Sabbath - just own "Black Sabbath"
Bowie - bag'o'shite after "Station to Station"
Hendrix - "Axis: Bold As Love" (plus a few later bits...)
The Orb - "U.F. Orb" - cack ensued
Parliament - "Mothership Connection" period
Joy Division - New Who ?
Clapton - the best (ahem) spanker of a plank, up to "Wheels of Fire".
Narcotics (and narcolepsy) did for him aftterwards
Prince - up to "Sign 'O' The TImes" (OK, the odd ripper afterwards)
Ian Dury - "New Boots & Panties" the zenith
Zappa - "Hot Rats" (a few nice, twiddly bits with the gtr., for afters)
Stones - "Let It Bleed" - total arsewipe segue on *their* career
Kinobe - "Soundphiles" - Great; "VERSEBRIDGECHORUS"" - Wank

You get my drift - lots of cracking ideas to begin with; diarreah
follows (let's raise a glass of bubbly, and snort a quickie, to the joys
of nouveau riche'dom). Some sustain it longer than others - Andy & Colin
should tour as "The Viagras" - but they mostly fade after a fairly short
time. It's the old "pop is, and always will be, ephemeral" diatribe. And
I like it.
Therefore Wayne, it's axiomatic - most bands are on the decline shortly
after they first let a TV make-up artist near / sign a 5 album deal /
hire a choreographer / swap denim for spandex / overdose...

And, all irony aside, re:

> From:  <>
> Subject: mentals...instru, that is
> I wonder...on the last balloon, when andys voice sort of turns into a
> trumpet note... how is this handled?
> eddie

It's definitely a trumpet.

Toodle-pip (and hic), Jon


Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:01:31 -0400
From: "Molly, The New Wave Queen 2003" <>
Subject: Dom In a Tutu/Correction
Message-ID: <001001c331ff$be2dcd00$263d4b43@thenewwavequeen>
Organization: Earthlink

Dom said:
"Luckily, I kept my glam metal purchases very quiet, thus securing my
non-fag status. Besides, I was twice the size of most people at my school so
I could have worn a Bronski Beat T-shirt and a tutu and I would have been
pretty safe."

Now seeing Dom in a Bronski Beat t-shirt and a tutu is just plain
frightening.  *shudders*  (just kidding, Dom)

I have a correction for a URL I posted in the last Digest.  I forgot to put
the www in the beginning of the URL: .

Molly, who hopes Dom doesn't take offense to what she said above

Song of the Moment:  "My Boyfriend" - The Cucumbers
Video of the Moment: "Such a Shame" - Talk Talk
Album of the Moment: "Bella Donna" - Stevie Nicks
Movie of the Moment: "Xanadu"
TV Show of the Moment: "Gound Force"


Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 00:29:34 +0100
From: "Darryl W. Bullock" <>
Subject: Level 42 Vs Bleurgh
Message-ID: <001801c33203$a6ff5d70$aa997ad5@ElBosco>

In  Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 30

Dom Lawson <> wrote: ' To me, the closest
equivalent to a techno version of XTC is Level 42, or at least it was
until they split up. Now they're back together and working on a new

Shit. I'd assumed this was a joke. Apparently it's true which is one
of the most horrific and odious bits of information I've had to
inwardly digest for some time. Please, somebody, anybody...make them
stop!!!  And comparing Level 42 to XTC, on any COUGH level, is quite
possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on Chalkhills...and
that's saying something, "Millichip" fans!

Fact: Level 42 sucked poop from a badger's arse. They will inevitably
continue to do so.'

Reasonably fair comment, but from someone who listenes to BLEURGH?????

Dom may find Level 42 odious, but nothing could be so truly horrific as
Damian All-Bran and his suckling dwarves' inane, pointless, septic and
unfeeling garbage. I know Andy liked them once, but Jeez! How plastic and
peurile do you want it?

At least Level 42 produced the brilliant 'Hot Water'. That constantly
reinventing-himself pseudo-cockney twat has never and will never come up
with as good a record.

Blur suck ass big time. The Demon Albarn is a talentless waste of space -
Gorillaz anyone?

Rant over, I feel better now.


Darryl W. Bullock

NP: Hail To The Thief
Fake Plastic Trees (Live acoustic version)
Apple Venus Volume 1
Fever To Tell


Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 05:56:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Wes Long <>
Subject: LITTLE EXPRESS back issues for sale
Message-ID: <>

Kidz - stay and snip your cord off!

I know I promised this about a year-and-a-half back,
but you can now purchase back issues of The Little
Express through the Optimism's Flames website. There
are 17 issues available - only twenty or so copies of
some so you'll need to act fast. Price is a mere $5
each, which includes shipping. Optimism's Flames makes
no money off the sale - you are buying directly from
The Little Express.

Here's a page that opens outside of the site, for easy
viewing - all the info you need:
(meant to be viewed in 1024x768 res like the rest of
the site)



Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:20:39 -0400
From: Neal Buck <>
Subject: Playing Hard To Get
Message-ID: <>

Hillers of Chalk,

The embarrassing albums thread has led me to another idea. One that
might even benefit some of us. What are your favorite albums that you
can't find on CD? Maybe you thought it was unavailable and someone else
on the list knows better! Or has a copy they would be willing to
sell/trade. To get started, here are some of mine:

Shaun Cassidy - Wasp; (produced by Todd R. and featuring TR&Utopia as

Hall & Oates - War Babies; (same as above, ex. earlier Utopia members).

Urgh! A Music War;  I have the video, and the LP, but not the CD.

Sweet - Strung Up; Live. I had the LP, but stupidly sold it at a record
show, not knowing it wouldn't be released on CD. (One funny thing, the
brown&silver "Hersheys" CD features the Strung Up version of "Need A Lot
Of Lovin'" instead of the original studio version, so the rest should be

FM - City of Fear; Obscure, but I like it.

801 Live; Available, I think, but I haven't found it yet. Where should I

Bill Nelson - The Two-Fold Aspect of Everything; B-sides mostly. I have
the tape and have seen the CD, but I want it for mine.

Those are the top ones I can think of right now. How about you?



Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 19:45:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: travis schulz <>
Subject: Your Basic Fuzzy Question
Message-ID: <>

Just for the benefit of those who don't own the Fuzzy
Warbles cds- is the Idea Records website the only
place to buy them?  Has anyone had luck obtaining them
at a record store?  Price options anyone?


Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 23:25:40 -0400
From: "Ben Gott" <>
Subject: Fountains of Wayne
Message-ID: <>

Yaateeh, friends:

I'm sending this e-mail from a slow-as-hell WebTV device at the Hotel
Santa Fe in New Mexico.  On my way back from the Institute of American
Indian Arts Museum downtown (I've been on a week-long trip with the
American Indian College Fund), I stopped at a Border's to buy "Welcome
Interstate Managers," the new album from Fountains of Wayne.  I cannot
recommend this enough -- it's easily the best album I've heard this
year.  Please go buy it NOW to support Mr. Schlesinger & Co. (who are
now on a Virgin Records imprint?!?).  Doing so will make your life


P.S.  "Yaateeh" is Navajo for "hello."  See?  Learning is fun!


Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 22:45:18 -0500
From: "eriC draveS" <>
Subject: Re: Stegosaurus
Message-ID: <000c01c332f0$8ac85330$046856d1@XLZOOM>

Dom Lawson said:
>Fact: Level 42 sucked poop from a badger's arse. They will inevitably
continue to do so.

Izzat a fact now? No, it sounds like YOUR OPINION.

And don't get me started on how I don't appreciate heavy metal either,
because I like both soft AND hard music. It just so happens that Level 42 is
categorized as 'soft', so what?

If you don't have anything nice to say about a band, then go ahead and say
bad things, but your criticism is not in the least bit constructive so it
isn't even worth reading. It's as if I told you your brain was being
mistaken for a walnut and on the verge of being eaten by ravenous
critic-haters. I wouldn't do that. (I'd let them eat it.)


"Life is sometimes shorter than you think."


Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:00:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tracy Angelina <>
Subject: Barry Andrews American Tour Dates
Message-ID: <>

Hi Chalksters,
You can find the most recent schedule here:

Enjoy the show!

Tracy A~~


Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:17:13 +0000
From: "Paul Culnane" <>
Subject: I'm burnin'
Message-ID: <>

Hello again

Look, I just want to thank wesLONG.  You have done so much to entertain and
edify us all, it's great, and muchly appreciated, with your site,

The extremely exciting news you just provided those of us on your mailing
list is almost too much to bear.  I'll leave that for Wes to announce as he
sees fit, but believe me, what fantastic news it was!

Well, Wes, it's a very pretty site, I told you that before.  But man, it's
so hard for a luddite (Andy's words about the Net) like me to navigate.  Can
I make a respectful suggestion please?  Can you provide a really dead simple
dropdown menu, without any fancy bullshit, just so we can go straight to
what we want?  It's so hard to find things.  Sorry, but it's true.  At least
for me.  Does anyone else find the same problem?  Otherwise, brilliant site,
and excellent work you have done.  Obviously a "labour-of-love".
Congratulations Wes!

I will be seeing Terry Chambers soon - well, he's gonna be my guest, as I
told you before.  And he's agreed for me to bail him up for an informal
interview (*very* informal, I should imagine).  So, in the spirit of Wes'
plea for questions for Colin, have any of you got stuff you wanna ask TC?
If so, please send 'em thru.  Please make them as funny, wild and ribald as
you want.  He's a drummer, after all, ha ha!

I intend to cull all this to present to either/both Relphie's and Longie's
sites.  We'll see.  Who knows, it might just degenerate into a fierce
piss-fest (as it has before) and come to nought. But here's hoping.  BTW,
Terry is supremely happy and well, and has expressed a rather tantalisingly
sincere desire to climb aboard the kit again.  Would that it were so...

That's enuff.  Sgt Rock is gonna help me (if no-one else will)

LUV ~ m@d p@ul in @str@li@


Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:32:55 +0000
From: "Paul Culnane" <>
Subject: Fwd: Re: XTC invocation
Message-ID: <>


This exchange comes from a friend who thought it might be of interest to
some of you at least.  I leave in the reply I made, because it was always
considered outrageous how they got away with it with the "Captain Pugwash"
cartoon series.  Forget "Noddy felt a little queer", this thing was seminal
(oops) in its blatant attempts to push the censorial envelope.  I feel
certain Andy would approve, and most likely would have been a fan in his

Description of band Pugwash sounds nifty though, dontcha think?

Website details for copping Pugwash's CD is given in the body of this


--- begin forwarded message ---

From: "Paul Culnane" <>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:16:39 +0000

Hey Jonathan

Very kind of you to share that with me.  What a tantalising brew this
person describes when referring to Pugwash.  Do you mind if I send this
through to Chalkhills, the XTC discussion list?  There are a number of The
Church fans on there too...

Pugwash, eh?  Presumably derived from that dinky old cartoon that featured
the unforgettable seafaring characters, Master Bates and Seaman Staines, ha

Are you getting toey for the new BHS?  I sure am!

The new CD featuring Canberra musicians, including really early Steve
Kilbey stuff (Baby Grand) is almost ready, I'm told.  I'll keep you posted
on developments.

Good onya

>From: "Jonathan Sargeant" <>
>Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:14:32 +1000
>just cos I know you love XTC, this came down the wire from Karmic Hit, the
>label run by the Kilbey Bros...
>Jonathan S
>A few things we thought you might like to know...
>Firstly, now on pre-sale at the KH Mall - Pugwash's 17 track
>masterpiece - Earworm! You are going to love this cd. That is if the
>thought of XTC jamming with Beck and produced by George Martin appeals
>to you. That's what is sounds like to me anyway. Pugwash are an Irish
>band based around the incredible songwriting of Thomas Walsh. The cd
>is truly astounding - it sends shivers down my spine and leaves me
>with a renewed feeling of joy to be human. We think you will be
>hearing a lot more from Pugwash - they have a track on the soundtrack
>to a new Irish movie called Headrush, not only that but people all
>over the world are starting to catch on to their brilliance.  The
>Earwom cd features a quicktime movie of their video "The Finer Things
>in Life" - you can download a low res version from the KH Hall of
>Gifts now - and you better download the song as MP3 too, so you can
>really hear their pristine, classic production. I kid you not - this
>album is a corker...  pre-order now and go in the running to win one
>of ten Pug packs or one of fifty rare bonus cd's! Shipping early July.

--- end forwarded message ---


Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:08:12 -0400
From: "Ted Harms" <>
Subject: fuzzy logic
Message-ID: <>

 - Anybody else notice that the spine label of FW 1 & 2 is upside down when
you put it on the cd rack (the cover right-side up and on the right-hand
side)?  Not sure if this is a British and/or European thing or not but I've
noticed that the books in my library that come from Europe have their spines
printed the other way from the North American printed books.

- Is there any rhyme or reason behind how Andy's ordering the tracks on FW?
Obviously, it's not chronological.  Is there some hidden theme for each cd?

Ted Harms
Davis Centre Library, Univ. of Waterloo
"It is easy enough to play silence but difficult to get it to sound right."
Derek Bailey


Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:49:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Wes Long <>
Subject: 1 if by hand - 2 if buy DVD
Message-ID: <>

Chalksters -

Spoke with Colin on the 16th and found him editing a
DVD of the Virgin era XTC. The two disc set will
feature all of the Virgin promo vids, everything on
Look Look and beyond, through Nonsuch. Not to mention
live footage from Australia, Holland and more -
depending on what minty-fresh schtuff they uncover.
Oh, yeah - there will also be video of the lads in the
studio working on tunes from the last few releases.
According to Mr. Moulding - there will probably be
future DVDs as well. (What's the over/under on copies
of the Look Look vid hitting Ebay over the next few

I'll have the full interview transcribed soon - will
post a link to it here, will have it open outside of
Optimism's Flames so you can all check it out.

What else do we chat about? Hmmm - The Dukes, Robert
Fripp, farts (yes, farts), beer, the remastered discs,
songwriting, Ebay, relationships... stay tuned.



Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:01:20 +0100
From: "Edward Percival" <>
Subject: Another X-sTatiC thankyou
Message-ID: <>

Another equinox, another gig.

Many sweaty thanks to all those of you who made gig #3 worth the effort. A
very near sell-out in the famous Dublin Castle.

Great to see so many familiar faces and to see so many new ones.

Once again we enjoyed ourselves and deafened the audience. We even had what
passes as a thirty-somethings attempt at stage diving!

After much debate, we finally tried a couple of new songs, Funk and
Lighthouse went well and the Disappointed made probably it's first an last

It was also a pleasure to see our old bass player Crawford who came to see
us for the first time.

For those who weren't there the menu was...

Radios In Motion
Life Begins at the Hop
This is Pop
The Disappointed
Funk Pop a Roll
Optimisms Flames
Little Lighthouse
Atom Age
Complicated Game
Language in our Lungs
Dance Band
Seagulls Screaming
Yacht Dance
Mayor of Simpleton
Towers of London
Respectable Street
Generals and Majors
Sgt Rock
Ball and Chain
No Thugs

And what do you know

we announced our next gig- a return to Sindon at the request of the (we are
promised) larger venue of The Victoria- actually in Swindon, close to the
Station. The date as near an anniversary of our first gig- Saturday 20th
September, and hey if we can keep going we could all wish Dave Gregory a
happy birthday at midnight??

Pics, details, thoughts and flyers will be found as usual at

Love Ed, Dan, Mick & Adrian


Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:36:22 -0700
From: "Korby Sears" <>
Subject: Absolute XTC & Subpoenaed Lemur @ Rendezvous - Monday, June 23rd
Message-Id: <>

an evening of videos, concert footage,
TV appearances and puppets shows
by the seminal 80s art rock band XTC

as part of
The Warren Report's AV CLUB series

Monday, June 23rd - 7pm - FREE!!
 The Rendezvous' Jewel Box Theatre
2320 2nd Ave, Seattle, WA 206-441-5823

Hosted by KORBY SEARS, playing the role of Professor, guiding you through
the twists and turns of XTC-land.

THE A-V CLUB explores the sometimes cool, sometimes strange but always
groovin' marriage of music and moving image media. From music videos to
concert films to offbeat experimental footage accompanied by cutting-edge
bands, THE A-V CLUB's an intoxicating cocktail brewed 'specially for soulful
geeks, tuneful hep-cats and aspiring alcoholics who like their movies on the
rocks and with a twist! THE A-V CLUB is a FREE series that casually calls
The Rendezvous' Jewel Box Theater its home. THE A-V CLUB is co-presented
monthly by TheWarrenReport and Bumbershoot.

Next week, the AV CLUB will be screening rare promotional videos, live
appearances, TV interviews and puppet shows from the seminal art rock/new
wave combo from the late 70s and early 80s, XTC. Band members include: Andy
Partridge (guitar, vocals), Colin Moulding (bass, vocals), Dave Gregory
(guitar), Barry Andrews (keyboards) and Terry Chambers (drums). "Absolute
XTC" will screen rarely seen footage of the band, culled from it's only
commercial video release - 1982's Look Look compilation - as well as other
unreleased video material.

Videos to be screened include:
Radios in Motion Crosswires Statue of Liberty This Is Pop Set Myself on Fire
Heatwave New Town Animal AreYou Receiving Me? Life Begins at the Hop Making
Plans for Nigel Towers of London Respectable Street Sgt. Rock is Going to
Help Me Generals and Majors All of The Sudden Ball and Chain Senses Working
Overtime All You Pretty Girls Yacht Dance No Thugs in Our House Snowman Dear
God Grass The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul The Mole From The Ministry

BONUS #1: "The Road To Oranges and Lemons: The XTC Puppet Show" (a record
industry-only video where the band uses puppets to tell the story of their
career from 1976-1989)

BONUS#2: A Live Set by Supeonaed Lemur!!

Following the screening will be a live performance by SUPEONAED LEMUR,
America's Favorite New Musical Trio! Lemur B and Lemur K and Lemur Z only
have one thing to say: Let Us Entertain You!

The band will perform zippy original tunes as well as tasty XTC covers.

SEE: A Man fall in love with a Television!!!
HEAR: the rampage of the gorgeous-but-deadly 30-legged Single File Female!!!
DON'T: step on the toes of the Dance Band!!!!
FEEL: the vicinity-accurate ectascy of Kissingly Locally!!!
MARVEL: At the Fetching Fatherless Flair of a test tube sheep!!!

BONUS #3: Party Favors!!

For more info, go to: and

See you there,
Prof. K. Sears 


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