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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 25

                   Tuesday, 20 May 2003


           RE: Parachuting in from Lurkersville
                        Re:al Barn
                 A quick googlism on XTC
                      Nature's Milk
                 Embarrassing records...
                       For exchange
                  the new pornographers
                    MORE for exchange!
                  Re: embarassing cds...
                 Air Supply, Carly Simon
             Nicholson's original miscellany
                    Happily stupid ...
                  Alright, i'll bite....
              I've got dibs on San Francisco
            Instant Tunes: Marketing Bootlegs


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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:16:39 -0700
From: "Kerry Chicoine" <>
Subject: RE: Parachuting in from Lurkersville
Message-ID: <000f01c31c01$346e6160$>

Hi, don't mind me as I parachute in from Lurkersville to post:

Amy <> wrote:

> Boy, the kids HATED it when I used to bring those to school
> on rainy days to play in the gym at indoor recess.

Funny! When I was in 6th grade I had a shop teacher that let us bring in
albums on a rotating basis; being an ELP freak, I spent my share of
afternoons torturing my classmates by playing, say, side 3 of "Welcome Back
My Friends To The Album Title That Never Ends, Ladies and Gentlemen Emerson
Lake and Palmer" or side 1 of "Tarkus" or even the Carl Palmer side of
"Works Volume 1".

Sigh; to this day, most of my friends *still* can't stand it when I go on
one of my ELP listening binges.

John Relph <> wrote:

> I've been playing the Banana Splits Theme as a mandolin
> tune (in the style of traditional fiddle tunes).

I am so delighted to be a part of this odd, eclectic cast of weirdos. John,
you *are* an odd sort, aren't you? :)

> I completely stumped a friend

Using an axe, I presume?

Washing my hair of this whole mess,

kErrY kOMpOsT

PS Hi Dave from AMMK!


Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 01:20:07 +0200
From: "hans stromberg" <>
Subject: Re:al Barn
Message-ID: <>

Chris Lee wrote:
>>well i don't post very often but the new albarn album is

Delurking: One-two-tree-four: And I agree. Only heard one song, but
that one was ... stunning. But there's more to lay your ears on: The
"Black Foliage" album from 1998 by Olivia Tremor Control is like to
experience The Dukes for the first time, but more mellow, laid back
and ... slower. Awesome. And also with Will Cullen Hart at the
controls: Circulatory Systems selftitled album (released last year
on Cloud Recordings). The one and only chorus (and there are no
verses) in "Forever": "We will live forever and you know it's true"
- is real magic! To me, this last song is a one minute piece of
music of which i've never heard anything like before. And the
opening of the album, "Yesterday's World" - Just open your window
and let it all out! Turn it on!

Also with their roots in The Elephant Six collective: The Neutral
Milk Hotel (or: Jeff Mangum). If i were to recommend one album
recorded the last five years in the genre of pop/punk, i would
choose "In The Aeroplane over The Sea". And "how strange it is to be
anything at all!"

 Hans "We thought we'd base our civilization upon yours" Stromberg
from The North Pole.


Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 06:43:51 +0700
From: "TOM !" <>
Subject: A quick googlism on XTC
Message-ID: <>

Slight editing for repitition...

Googlism for: xtc

xtc is wrong
xtc ist bestimmt
xtc is nrg
xtc is arguably led by andy partridge
xtc is the display object
xtc is bad stuff
xtc is embedded in the greek word ek
xtc is 3
xtc is een drug die vooral in het weekend en op feesten
xtc is based on creamware's scope technology
xtc is a unix
xtc is for you
xtc is an internet worm that spreads via e
xtc is still at the top of its game
xtc is al bijna 100 jaar bekend
xtc is the ability to solve for homogeneous equilibria and then do a
``turing'' stability analysis on the resulting rest state
xtc is the ideal addition to any vst
xtc is also the blueprint for a whole host of britpop bands
xtc is mdma
xtc is a british rock group that has been around since the late 1970's
xtc is great band for obsessive fanatics
xtc is a variation on the pulsar theme
xtc is er in tweehonderd smaken
xtc is a tight braid consisting of 16 individual strands of dupont's dacron
polyester plied over "para
xtc is well
xtc is the current koth with around 922 points out of 1320
xtc is enjoying
xtc is a carefully composed combination of herbs
xtc is a safe and natural alternative to chemical xtc
xtc is met 40 procent gedaald
xtc is not prolific
xtc is good
xtc is producing? i find that very hard to believe
xtc is profiled in extended playhouse #11
xtc is one of my favorite bands and i had been waiting patiently as the next
fan for them to release their next album
xtc is known as a relatively safe recreational drug
xtc is massively influential and truly important
xtc is 24
xtc is the only band worthy of the title "the next beatles
xtc is less a compliment to full
xtc is andy's band and
xtc is the latest drug scaring the pants
xtc is like lsd without the hallucinations
xtc is an email worm
xtc is one of the hottest bands around performing music from artist such as
sheryl crow
xtc is soooo much fun
xtc is the most cost
xtc is verboden
xtc is gestopt
xtc is an extreme
xtc is all about
xtc is indeed set for a reversal and a significant move higher
xtc is a completely new library
xtc is another one of those bands that i have heard of as pop for prog fans

p.s.  I love "10 New Songs" by Leonard Cohen.....mmmmmm like a deep rich
bittersweet chocolate..


Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 01:11:16 +0000
From: "Calvin Goodale" <>
Subject: Nature's Milk
Message-ID: <>

This is a hilarious site run by a huge XTC fan:



Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 14:32:26 +0530
From: "Sughosh Varadarajan" <>
Subject: Embarrassing records...
Message-ID: <000701c31c53$0fb02050$>

Hallo chalkfolk!

I've been reading everyone's posts one this rather interesting thread for a
while, and I find that a lot of the stuff people have mentioned sit quite
pretty in my collection and will elicit no embarrassment whatsoever from me!
I have absolutely no problems with ABBA, and I really don't find them all
that fact I'm often annoyed at the way they are so conveniently
placed along with the likes of Boney M (eeks!) and the rest of the disco
brigade. I think Benny & Bjorn were one of the finest songwriting pairs
ever, and nothing needs to be said about the girls' vocal talents. Okay, so
they don't write about things that are likely to shake the earth. Big deal.
But they're still one of the greatest pop groups of all time, IMO.

Bread is another band I don't have any problems with. Own "On the waters"
and "The Best of Bread Vol2" on vinyl and I think they too had some finely
crafted pop songs, cheesy though they may be. Ditto Neil Diamond. I've got
his "Moods" LP which Rolling Stone Record Guide gives the lowest possible
rating, but I quite enjoy it, and I think practically everything he did till
around 1972 was very very good.

Moody Blues...wellll yes I'll admit I'm getting a wee bit bored of
them.....but I still enjoy Seventh sojourn and Days of future passed a lot
(got em both on vinyl)...will probably sell my copy of Octave one o these
days if I can find a taker, though (and that's a BIG if!).

Oh, and I LOVE the Bee Gees' "Odessa"! Probably the only album by them that
I can listen to without cringing.. (:-)

I got rid of all my Cliff Richard LPs some years ago though..used to own
Heaven alone knows how many albums by him....even had stuff like "Green
light"..gawsh I was a real dyed-in-the-wool Cliff fan at 16!

Anyways I don't think there's any stuff in my collection today that I'd be
genuinely *embarrassed*..probably just stuff that I can't relate to much when I was on this rock'n'roll revival trip and bought
everything I could lay my hands on by Shakin' Stevens (:-)

Used to like REO Speedwagon a good bit too...still have "Life as we know it"
and "The earth, a small man, his dog and a chicken", on, funnily enough,
reel-to-reel tape ( I used to trip out on listening to the stuff on spools
so I taped it off from the original rid of the cassettes
ages ago but the reels remain)

Other 80's "embarrassments" might include Baltimora's "Living in the
background" LP...(hehe anyone remember this dude at all? He of the Tarzan
imitations and all...) and the God-awful "Can't wait to see the movie" by
Roger Daltrey (sheesh! Was I EVER that crazy a fan of the Who? *shudder*)

Lots more I can think of I'm sure...but I'll stop here for now..

Cheers all

(Now in eager anticipation of Billy Bragg's Talking with the taxman about
poetry CD...oh dear Lord,please make it soon...!)


Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 15:39:51 +0100
From: "Belinda" <>
Subject: For exchange
Message-ID: <004401c31c82$2d184f80$>

Hi all from London

This is one of the hardest emails I've ever had to write. Basically, I am
getting rid of heaps of XTC and X-Files stuff.  Yep, I did A to W no

Baaaayyyyysically, I am minimising my life and possessions.
I am getting rid of loads of stuff. It's been sooo wonderful so far!  I have
very little room and I know that if and when I get old I may either have
more space, or the want to sit and look at stuff I've had all my life, but
my decision has been made.  As a keen motorcyclist I like to think I'll be
on the road for ever and travelling with the laptop in one pannier and spare
underwear and jeans in the other!

What I can't bear to part with are any of my vinyl albums or CDs though.
Curious, eh?!

I know it is illegal to sell the videos that I have recorded X-Files and XTC
stuff on.  So I am giving those away.

Here's what I want to get rid of:

X-Files - every single bloody episode on VHS up to end of eighth series,
each episode all documented on the videos with the cut outs from Radio Times
(for the USA readers, it's a TV mag!).  I also have about 10 pre-recorded
tapes I also bought of the special double episodes. I have several books on
X-Files, and heaps of official X-Files magazines. I know, I know...

XTC.  I have Limelights (sorry, Mark) and Little Express Magazines, videos
(I'm keeping two!) and taped interviews. The one video I am keeping has
pretty much to my knowledge every video they ever made so I would make a
copy of that for you.

If you know of anyone who wants the X-Files stuff, please tell them to
contact me but only if they want everything and can come collect it all (I'm
in South East London).

Now, this bit is important. I am getting rid of ALL the X-Files stuff
altogether in one lot, and ALL (except 2 vids and ALL albums) of the XTC
stuff together in another one lot.  I am not into splitting stuff up for
different people. You take it all or nothing at all!

Here's what I want in exchange.

An experience.

I don't want money. I want an experience. Here's some frinstances.

You may own a microlite, and want to take me for a flight.  You may have a
nice little villa or pad somewhere in south of France, or Scotland, or
Georgia USA, and can let me and my partner David stay for a week rent free.
You may live in New England and have a 500cc motorcycle you could lend me
for my 2 month trip from New England to Florida and back I plan to take in
2008.  You may be a painter and decorator in London and would be willing to
strip the walls of two rooms in my flat and patch them and paint them! You
may own a jet, and would be willing to take me for a half hour ride. Yes I
know it would cost you lots but if you're the owner of a jet you can afford
it!  You may live in London, and be willing to have my cat Spacey stay
safely in your home for a few weeks at a time, each year when we go on
holidays, for the rest of Spacey's natural life! (She is a home cat and
HATES the outdoors and is only 3!) Ahhh, remember in 2008 you may have to
have her for 2 months!

Get the picture?  Yeah I hear you all "DREAM ON BELINDA!"

It's worth a shot.  And don't imagine for one second I am only after the
most exotic or exciting offer.  The walls do need some attention...

Sorry for the long posting. Oh - and having just gone through my music, I
would die if anyone knew I had an Osmonds album. No, wait, I just played it,
it's the religious one and was actually rather good with "Let Me In" on it.
Ummmmmm - nope, I am ashamed of nothing, but when you come and pick up all
my X-Files stuff or all my XTC stuff (minus albums and two vids!!!) you may
care to disagree and post on here what you found hilarious...

Please address all serious offers only to: and NOT the b.blanchard address.  Thanks!

WHAT HAVE I DONE!!!!!!!!!!


Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 11:35:23 EDT
Subject: the new pornographers
Message-ID: <>

Hello folks, short time reader/third time poster here:

I don't think I've read much chatter about these guys here at Chalkhills, but
The New Pornographers are definitely one of the finer quirk/pop bands these
days.  I'd say they're in the same vein as the Jellyfish, XTC, and, more
recently, Hot Hot Heat, so you might want to check them out.  Their new album
"The Electric Version" is pretty flippin' good.

This sounds like a horrible pr job, doesn't it?

XTC-related material:  Does anyone know what the new album is going to sound
like?  Are they still on their electric Wasp Star kick or will it be more of
a Apple Venus/Nonsuch/Skylarking affair?  Someone here has to know!

-Justin L. Abrotsky


Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 17:17:01 +0100
From: "Belinda" <>
Subject: MORE for exchange!
Message-ID: <006901c31c8f$bfdae280$>

Hi again

Also included in my offer re. XTC stuff in the above(?) email, is a big
baggy white Dukes Sweatshirt, and a Yellow Tshirt from the 1989 Manchester
Convention.  The sweatshirt is just stoopidly big and I don't wear
sweatshirts, and the Tshirt - well, yellow really isn't *me*!


Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 23:35:33 -0300
From: Paulo X <>
Subject: Re: embarassing cds...
Message-ID: <l03130300baec9f615c63@[]>

Well, I have a handful of embarassing records in my collection:

THE BEST OF A Flock of Seagulls
Some Disco compilations a former girlfriend of mine gave me
THE BEST OF Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark

Paulo, who doesn't think Sergio Mendes represents *real* Brazilian music...

"Anyone can get old. All you have
to do is live long enough."
	          -- Grouch Marx


Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:03:44 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Air Supply, Carly Simon
Message-ID: <>

on 5/16/03 1:13 PM, blah blah blah:

> What I absolutely don't get, though, are a few artists that are sometimes
> named here in disregard and whom I believe just don't deserve the rap.  Both
> Chris "I'm a Secret Air Supply Fan But I'm Going To Try To Smokescreen You
> On It Every Chance I Get, Which Is About 5 Time A Year" Coolidge and Molly
> mentioned Carly Simon in a condescending or apologizing way in recent posts.
> I'll never understand this.  To me, she writes very adult lyrics about
> interesting topics, has a good sense of melody and arrangement (not so good
> on the middle eights, though), has now found the perfect producer and the
> perfect band, an produced a couple of my favorite albums of the past years
> ("Have You Seen Me Lately", "Letters Never Sent").  They're not
> *super-great*, no, but they're very good and certainly not embarrassing, not
> to me, anyway.  As with her ex-husband, James Taylor (the Beatles' first
> Apple signing -- but you knew that), she seems to be "placed in a certain
> drawer" as the Germans say, a drawer full of inferior and embarrassing
> artists.  I just don't get it, I would never put them there.

  My wife is the Air Supply fan in this family, she has every single one of
their albums, including a couple of early Australian imports and Russell
Hitchcock's solo album. In the 80's I was one of those people who
practically ran screaming from the room when an Air Supply song was playing.
By the time I met my wife, though, they weren't having hits anymore, and I
married her for her other personal qualities, not her taste in music. I even
took her to see Air Supply live when they played a couple of hours drive
from us a few years ago. Is that love, or what? They were surprisingly good
live, even the hits were tolerable, and there were several songs off the new
album they were promoting(that I saw go straight to the bargain bins a few
months later) that were actually quite good, kind of like The Moody Blues on
a good day; more Ray Thomas or Mike Pinder than Justin Hayward. They're
still not my cup of tea, but they still have a career because like XTC they
have a genuine love and respect for their fans, and their serious fans repay
them with their loyalty. I gotta respect them for that.

  Incidentally, my wife's a Carly Simon fan too, I have a lot of respect for
Carly as a person(she also lives down the street from my uncle in Martha's
Vineyard, he's done some contracting design work for her); as a songwriter I
find her hit and miss. Her most interesting albums for me have been her
least successful, such as Spy from the late 70's and the more recent Letters
Never Sent. Again, can't say I'm a fan, but it could be worse, my wife could
have been an 80's hair metal fan.


Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 05:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Todd Bernhardt <>
Subject: CDese?
Message-ID: <>


Like the embarrassing record thread, so will throw mine into the virtual
ring before heading off on a week's holiday on the beaches of the Outer
Banks of North Carolina. Ah....

First off, as JD pointed out, having Harrison Sherwood at your house
perusing your music collection is no big thing. He can't be pleased no
matter what -- Lord knows how I've tried -- so I've given up buying or
hiding the appropriate CDs. *However*, having Dom Lawson look over your CDs
can be an intimidating experience, let me tell you. I mean, how much
Gorelord, Cardiacs, Public Enemy, and Thurston Lava Tube is enough?

That said, here are the CDs I'm compelled to explain or less than thrilled

-- Aerosmith: Pump. I know. But it sometimes satisfies the needs of my inner

-- Anita Baker: Rapture. I'm less than thrilled my her later efforts, but
this one is a classic "little girl with a big voice" debut. Great songs.

-- Deee-Lite: World Clique. Hey, Bootsy plays bass on it. Shut up.

-- Eagles: Hotel California. The album I learned to play drums along to.

-- Extreme: Pronograffiti. I should probably get rid of this one, come to
think of it. But I liked it at the time.

-- Don Henley: Building the Perfect Beast. Pretty fucking good LA pop, if
you ask me. I know Don doesn't have a lot of musical range, but this is
probably his best album.

-- Janet Jackson: Control. Produced by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. And
Janet's tits were still her own.

-- Billy Joel: Turnstiles. Classic pop album, his best, IMO. Not a bad song
on there.

-- Grace Jones: All her albums recorded in Jamaica with a stunning band that
included, among others, Sly and Robbie. "Pull Up to the Bumper" is that
rarest of all things -- a disco song with musical value and integrity. Check
out the percussion! Listen to it while driving, and keep from honking your
horn. I dare you.

-- Brian May: Back to the Light. First solo record, I believe. I should
think about getting rid of it. I love him and his playing, but this ain't
early-Queen quality.

-- Prince: Many, many albums. (Actually, I'm proud of my Prince and TAFKAP
-- I mention it because someone else had mentioned they were embarrassed by
owning albums by His Royal Badness. Don't be!)

-- Queen: First four albums, plus Live at the BBC (which covers that early
era). Play "Stone Cold Crazy" or "Ogre Battle" at top volume and keep
yourself from hitting your head against something hard. I defy you.

-- Sheila E: Sex Cymbal. I saw her play drums (in four-inch stilletto
heels!)w/Prince on his Lovesexy tour. I've wanted to bear her children ever

-- Spin Doctors: Pocket Full of Kryptonite. Was initially impressed by Aaron
Comess' drumming, but the album hasn't aged well, I must admit.

-- The Wizard of Oz: Soundtrack. Full of beautiful melodies, great lyrics,
and inventive arrangements. Loved by Andy Partridge as much as it is by
me. 'nuff said.


"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty
than to those attending too small a degree of it." --Thomas Jefferson, Third
U.S. president, architect, and author (1743-1826)


Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:55:18 +0100
From: "Nicholson, Gary" <>
Subject: Nicholson's original miscellany
Message-ID: <>

1. Kevin Wollenweber mentions "Summer" in his posting of 14th May. In the UK
   this year, summer was on Friday 18th April.

2. Contrary to my last posting, Swindon is not the worst town in the
   UK. Luton, Harlow, Milton Keynes, Crawley, Andover and Basingstoke are
   all representative of places where you'd be quite happy to desecrate the
   graves of the town planners and architects of the time.

3. In the Black Boy pub in Winchester, the landlord uses Rolf Harris's
   version of 'Stairway to Heaven' to drive people out at closing
   time. Unfortunately for him, most people like it. I don't necessarily
   want to be driven out of the pub but would be happy to receive
   suggestions of what would make you want to sup up and retire to your
   honourable couch. Trout Mask Replica sounds as if it might do the trick.

4. Are XTC on strike again?

Gary Nicholson.
Pretending to do some work.
South of the river.
About half a mile from the Tower of London - Bermondsey actually.


Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:37:24 +0200
From: "hans stromberg" <>
Subject: Happily stupid ...
Message-ID: <>

... am I: Chris Lee wrote:

>>well i don't post very often but the new albarn album is

and I posted yesterday and said that I agreed, when I actually
referred to the wrong album; I meant Grahan Coxon's new solo album
"The Sky bis to high", not Blur's whatever it is. Sorry! Only heard
one song in my local record shop but that was ... yeah, stunning!

Hans Stromberg,
The North Pole


Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 13:55:26 +0000
From: "don device" <>
Subject: Alright, i'll bite....
Message-ID: <>

greetings all,

OK, i've cracked and i'll add my shameful Cds to the ever-growing
chalk-pile... i must admit that there's nothing i'd hide from any
chalkhillians (we seem to have a terrifyingly diverse range of tastes, and
to be, on the whole, a rather tolerant bunch) but there are some CDs i've
relegated to my opaque CD wallet... such as Modern English: I melt with you,
and 120 minutes MTV CD (with 'dear god' on it though!)

for those of you who have been kind enough to listen and remark upon my
music, you may be interested to know that one of the recent proliferation of
XTC cover bands includes an old band-mate of mine, Evan Urkofsy who played
for a while in 'devices'... I've heard some rough MP3s which sounded quite

where's the XTC cover band here in Paris though?

device out

don device

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too
dark to read." -Groucho Marx


Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 08:58:12 -0700
From: "Pastula Aaron" <>
Subject: I've got dibs on San Francisco
Message-ID: <>

So, England, New York, LA, Sacramento and wherever Chris Vreeland is (Texas,
I think?) now have XTC tribute bands in the works, or already in the
performing stages.  Before this gets out of hand, I want to lay my claim on
San Francisco, okay?!?

Like seemingly everyone else, I've been wanting to do this for years, and
since mid January, I, bass player/vocalist being of sound mind and body,
have been joining forces with a drummer and guitarist of considerable talent
to pull off the latest trend in blatant hero worship.  We expect to be
playing in the city within the next few weeks (discussions with a club rep
are in the final stages); I think what's kind of cool about our group is
we're attempting to pull off the songs as a trio, using multiple
instruments, a few sampling devices (maybe), and a staggeringly cool
6/12-string doubleneck that makes us look like a bitchin' third-rate
Genesis.  Obviously, in gleefully breaking the rules like this we are making
a few changes in arrangements and tayloring them a little to our necessary
liking, but that's part of the fun, don't you think?

Will post again as performance dates are solidified, so those in the Bay
Area can join in the fun, or come to critique and scorn.  But I think it's
pretty cool that so many people are doing this.  Yeah...

As you were...



Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 06:54:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Todd Bernhardt <>
Subject: Instant Tunes: Marketing Bootlegs
Message-ID: <>


Just found out about a very interesting article on bootlegs, the Internet, and
the future of marketing live recordings. Of course, Clear Channel heads its
ugly rear in that future. One more reason to get rid of the Idiot Son of an
Asshole in 2004.


"He that wrestles with us strengthens our nerves, and sharpens our skill. Our
antagonist is our helper." --Edmund Burke, statesman and writer (1729-1797)


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