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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 13

                  Friday, 14 March 2003

Topics:

                      Re: The Office
                           Runt
  All in all it was a petroleum byproduct (and still is)
          Coming to two continents near you ...
              Squeeze me? (I invented that.)
     RE: financial salvation for the record industry
                     Vinylcidal mania
                   re: worst live shows
                    from bad to worse
                 Air Supply, other stuff
                    A couple of points
                   Chalkhorse sighting
                    RIP Lynne Thigpen

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:35:24 EST
From: JamieCFC1@aol.com
Subject: Re: The Office
Message-ID: <1d5.493ab1b.2b9bae0c@aol.com>

In a message dated 08/03/2003 >  "Jonny Pop" writes:-
>
> I don't know how many of you outside the UK have had a chance to see the
> brilliant comedy show, "The Office" - it's on BBC America in the States -
> but it's incredibly funny.  The reason I bring it up here is that in the
> show, which is set in the office of a paper company outside of London, they
> mention that the main branch of the company is in Swindon. <snip>

 Actually in series 2 the Swindon branch gets merged into Slough, so there
 goes the XTC thing!  Sorry if I gave the plot away (heehee).

 Jamie

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:00:37 -0800 (PST)
From: pancho artecona <partecona@yahoo.com>
Subject: Runt
Message-ID: <20030308220037.76354.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey 'hillers,

I caught Todd at the House of Blues New Orleans about
a month ago and I agree with Annamarie. The show was
pretty mediocre. His guitar was constantly out of tune
and he was just paying exceedingly sloppily and seemed
to just be phoning the performance in.  He kept trying
to tune the guitar by ear and would eventually have to
use his built in guitar tuner and he was invariably
sharp and otherwise out of key.  I kept thinking of
Andy's comments (maybe in the book Chakhills and
Children?) about his sloppy piano playing.

I have seen him about 14 times. This is the first time
I see him solo and was by far the worst showing yet.

The high point is that he played "I Don't Want to Tie
You Down" from AWATS. I believe it was a request from
someone in his family. He was in New Orleans
vacationing with the family Rundgren.

Did you know his son is apparently a pretty good
short-stop with pro potential?  Little trivia there.

Pancho XPRXTCFAN

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 23:14:43 EST
From: WTDK@aol.com
Subject: All in all it was a petroleum byproduct (and still is)
Message-ID: <95.2b104c10.2b9c19b3@aol.com>

In a message dated 3/8/03 8:14:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
<owner-chalkhills@chalkhills.org> writes:

> I respect your opinion on this, but I'm not one of those people who think
> this is true.  I for one don't miss clicks, pops and hiss.  I don't miss
> scratches, skips and warps.  I don't miss worn styluses and off-speed motor
> drives.  And as far as the notion that all of the above aside, the LP as a
> better overall *sound* - I've never been able to ascertain that.  The first
> time I heard side 2 of Abbey Road on CD, I nearly swooned

I agree although I have to argue that the reason Abbey Road sounded so damn
good was because of the improved technology, tape quality, sound equipment
and digital filters, recording, etc., used during the remastering process. I
thought my MFSL copy of Abbey Road sounded pretty darn good as well.

I also seem to remember not being all that impressed with the first batch of
CDs released. It's not that they sounded bad, just, well, different. Dry.
Sterile. Kind of tenth generation master material.

>It's not the death of the album that I mourn,
it's the death of the album COVER!!!

I agree with that. I never liked the tiny booklets all that much. I prefer
the booklets for the DVD audio only because they are 1) about twice the size
of a CD booklet 2) They sound awesome blowing away earlier CD pressings. As
to how they would compare to a HDCD with a compatible player, I don't know.
Certainly they wouldn't have the multichannel capacity but, then again,
that's not always a bad thing.

I do like the SCAD/CD hybrids (because they are backwards compatible) but
hate the packaging on most of them (the Stones packaging is cheap and
insulting. The Police Greatest Hits package looks shoddy as well). It would
be nice to have this stuff at least the size of a single (that is 45rpm for
you young folks) sleeve size. I wouldn't have to start worrying about going
blind trying to read the fine print.

I'm anxiously waiting Andy's next Fuzzy Warble although I wish it would be
available in a local store only so I could help out the few independents
still out there. Instead of making it Internet only perhaps he could charge
more if there was extra tracks (like the Japanese pressing of Homegrown) or
an extra disc with one or two songs (or variations on demos) (hey, he could
charge more which is OK with me as I'd pay more to have them). For those of
us who can't or won't pay a bit more, the regular version would be available
as well.

It's kind of like the thing Best Buy (the enemy of the independent dealer)
does when it offers an extra disc as a special promotion (or like the movie
studios do now with extras such as the Star Trek boxed sets. These include an
extra disc for some retailers that has more extras for the hard-core fan or
completist).

Worst concert, sad to say, for me was by one of my favorite bands. Roxy
Music's tour to support their High Road EP was horrible. You can catch it on
the horrible live album While My Heart Is Still Beating (clearly that wasn't
the case when they performed).

I'm happy to say that their recent tour made me feel that it wasn't the end
of the line for them. A pity they're not making a new album as Bryan Ferry's
latest is his best, most energetic album in years. It's also his best written
with its mix of originals and unusual covers.

What about it Andy old pal? We could finally hear the end of the bitching
from fans (plus I'd get the extra stuff I crave and could ignore the stuff I
am not the least bit interested in). While we are at it...any friends of
Colin that are part of this list--encourage Colin to put out his Fuzzy
Warbles. A single double disc compilation could put some spare change in his
pocket and wouldn't be as expensive as Fuzzy. Plus we'd get marvelous
upgrades of stuff already floating around out there.

>During the course of writing this I have had to bury our
family hamster. For those who didn't know him, 'Pebbles' was a fine
upstanding hamster who lived to the ripe old age of 3, which for a hamster
is very old. In view of this I would like to formally propose that Friday
21st March is now billed as the "Pebbles the Hamster Tribute Concert". I
will contact the BBC to see if we can arrange a live webcast. Anybody got
Paul McCartney's phone number? Brian May?? Elton John???

Your concert idea touches my heart! Perhaps we can all meet up in a local
park. The results have got to be better than any of the tribute concerts I've
seen. Most of them have been great in intend but poor in execution. A handful
of songs by a variety of performers who might not otherwise hang together.

Seriously, though, I'm sure Pebbles in a better place where he/she won't have
to endure Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears and their ilk. Ah youth is wasted
on the young or the old super rich.

a random thought--anybody know how the US editions of the remastered albums
are doing sales wise?

Wayne now at wtdk12@msn.com (I've gone from one part of the dark side, i.e.,
AOL to the other). Where's the Justice League of America when you need them?

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:57:31 +0000
From: "dunks58" <dunks58@milesago.com>
Subject: Coming to two continents near you ...
Message-ID: <200303091257.AA142475482@milesago.com>

Greetings Chalklings,

Neal Buck's missive prompts me to likewise decloak in order to issue a
similar warning to inhabitants of the northern hemisphere.

Assuming that the current difference of opinion between Darth Hussein and
His Confederate Majesty Generalissimo El Busho does not destroy the entire
world within the next few weeks -- we (i.e. myself, my wife and my kids)
will be embarking on a tour of the charred and reeking ruins of Europe and
North America later in the year.

Our intinerary (we hope) takes us first to Athens and to whichever areas of
the Mediterranean are least likely to inflict upon us a painful death at the
hands of fanatics.

Our journey will commence most likely in late August. After reclining
languidly on a Greek island for some days, we will then proceed through as
many bits of Europe and the UK as our feeble Australian currency, our
children's legs and our Eurail pasees will carry us.

Above all, we hope to be able to visit some of Britian's most famous and
holiest shrines, including Abbey Rd, Olympic Studios, Portmeirion, and the
Sacred Sheds of Swindon (praise be to St Andrew and St Colin!)

 From La-la-Londinium -- assuming we are not turned back at the border -- we
then go west young man to Noo Yawk and other points in the East, and then
over to L.A., then north to Vancouver, Canada, and finally back home via
Hawaii.

It would indeed be a pleasure to meet up with any Chalkers on either
continent (who have not by then been rounded up by homeland security) who
might be in or near our intended path and who might feel disposed to join us
a beverage or a meal and a chinwag on topics chalkish or otherwise.

Any and all suggestions concerning modes of transport, places of
accommodation and points of interest will be gratefully accepted.

For those less favourably disposed to our impending invasion, we will
provide a full intinerary in due course, along with suggested vantage points
from which you may safely hurl fruit and vegetables in our general
direction.

You have been warned.

Dunks

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 07:13:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Bernhardt <beat_town@yahoo.com>
Subject: Squeeze me? (I invented that.)
Message-ID: <20030309151352.17218.qmail@web41114.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi:

In response to Annamarie's question about the worst concert ever, I'd
have to say Squeeze, 1985. Though I liked Squeeze well enough, the
reason I'd bought tickets to their show at George Washington
University, in DC, was to see Oingo Boingo, who was opening for them
in support of "Dead Man's Party." BUT ...  someone in OB got sick,
they didn't play, and instead my girlfriend and I endured a mess of a
concert by Squeeze. Bad sound, uninspired sleepwalking-type
performances by all involved (except Glenn Tilbrook ... I was quite
impressed by his voice and playing), and overall a big
disappointment. The best part of the night was watching the
teeny-bopper co-eds in the upper seats attempt to dance along to the
music without any regard to the actual beat of the song involved.

Jonny Pop asked if any of us in the U.S. had seen "The Office," and I
completely agree with his assessment of the show -- it's stunning,
first-rate comedy, filmed in "mockumentary" style at Wernham Hogg, a
fictional paper-distributor office in Slough (which is trying to
assimilate the Swindon branch). You'll find yourself alternating
between laughing out loud and cringing in head-shaking disbelief at
the slimy antics of Regional Manager David Brent, Assistant to the
Regional Manager (though he insists he's really Assistant Regional
Manager) Gareth Keenan, and Sales Rep Chris Finch, and their
long-suffering co-workers.

I believe it runs on BBC America at 10:20 on Thursday nights, and
repeats at 10:40 on Sunday nights. My undying gratitude to chalkers
Adrian "Fuckin' A" Ransome and David "Smudgeboy" Smith for alerting
this Yank to the show.

-Todd

"So there I am, back of the cab, both of them got their laughing gear
round my old single-barrel pump-action yogurt rifle, yeah..."  --Chris
Finch

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Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 08:51:26 -0800
From: "Thomas Vest" <tvtwo@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: financial salvation for the record industry
Message-ID: <F38SlIZaoRdITblCBA700005b32@hotmail.com>

hello chalkdom

just received the latest chalkhills issue (9.12) and it made me remember
that i also want to chip in a thought or two about the state of the record
industry that William Sherlock talked about in in issue 9.11.

the idea that the record industry thinks that "illegal downloads" or cd
burning is killing the industry is ridiculous.  before you had mp3 files to
download, everyone i knew made copies on cassette tape and the record
companies thought that it would kill their bottom lines as well. in the late
70's and early 80's, home taping was the most evil thing in the minds of
record executives and while we are at--- movie companies as well... everyone
remember the sony betamax court case?!

one of the things that a lot of people don't think about is that when cd's
came out, no one really knew what they where yet and lots of people did not
buy into the idea right away.  pricing of those players and the actual cd's
themselves did not help either (remember early cd's were 20 bucks a shot)  i
did not get a cd player myself until 89 and i still knew many, many people
who did not get them until the 90's.  when people really clicked on the idea
of cd, they wanted to buy their whole back catalog of classic oldies they
had from the 50's through the 70's.  you had an older generation (with more
money) supporting this awesome growth of the cd in the early to mid 90's
that was bound to end sometime.  once they stopped buying their copies of
the White Album or Dark Side of the Moon, what were they going to get next?
a new release by arrested development or nirvana??  hell no!  they did not
buy much of the newer releases, it was younger people who bought those
albums because the labels catered to the masses at a point (and i still
believe this) when their was still good quality music at the time.  A & R
was still a viable department at record labels.  A & R still had that
connection with musicians and fans.  this was all before the mega mergers
started to happen and budgets/departments were slashed to nothing.  you
still had lots of good music to put out then and the younger generation who
would be the focus of record company bean counters.

have you ever heard of M.A.P. pricing?  well, if you worked in the retail
music industry you might have heard about it.  MAP stands for minimum
advertised pricing. here's how MAP started: when large retailers like best
buy, circuit city and Wal-Mart realized that they could drive the cd buying
masses in their stores by selling the latest (_______ <--- insert any band
name here) for $10.88 or less (below cost and they did not care if they lost
a few cents when a customer might buy some borax bleach or a microwave at a
higher price to more than make up the difference), the other retail chains
and labels balked.

"you cannot expect us to compete with 9.88 on the new bon jovi when we are
selling it for 13.99.  that's unfair.  you are selling it below cost (their
cost for actually buying it).  we don't like it that you can do this and we
want to make sure you don't do this anymore..." or something like that.

so what happened was that these retail outlets and labels got together at
one of their NARM conventions and said each title will have a minimum
advertised price and no one store should be able to sell a title under that
amount.  "it is unfair to competition and (whispering this part in the back
rooms) and we like our profit margins just fine."

when MAP pricing hit, new release sale price's eventually started to get
closer together but the STANDARD pricing of cd's started to increase in that
ever upward sprial... 14.99 was the norm for most none-hit cd's that are now
the 18.99 cd's you see in most stores.  you can thank MAP for part of this.

i worked and managed record stores from 1989 to 1998 and saw this glut first
hand.  so much money was made that even the retail industry over reacted and
expanded to such a large number of stores that the only place to go was
down-- not up. the company i worked for had an over 40 % profit margin in
the heyday of cd's!  if a large retail chain record company has that kind of
margin, what do you think the record companies themselves had?  more than
50%?  i think its entirely possible.

now i agree with doctor pilby in 9.12:

<Looks like if the majors want to get back to where they were in their
heyday, they're going to have to actually figure out how to provide the
world with some good music.  I don't think they have it in them.>

the labels have really killed the industry as we knew it.  napster would
have been a great thing, but they don't realize that by killing it, another
two or three like it (not better mind you) will pop up.  the internet is the
new radio.  we will never see radio like we grew up with.  Clear Channel
Communications will see to that (another long rant for another day).  when i
worked retail, i did not buy much because i got it mostly for free as a
promotional copy.  when i left, i purchased about 30-50 new cd's a year.
napster nor any other file site has not lowered that figure.  a lot of
people that are getting mp3's still buy cd's.  where are people going to get
exposure these days on something new?  mtv?  radio? likely not.  they will
read about it or hear about it from somebody and then go listed to a sample
of it from amazon's website or download it from any number of file sharing
sites.  they might go buy it if they see it on sale or, if they are like me,
i will go see if it is a used cd yet in my local independent store.  i am
still not convinced that more people are copying music than buying outright
(and i have a burner myself plus i still have the 100 pack of cd's that i
got last year!).

i go into virgin megastore on occasion where i live and there are always
customers lined up to buy something for a lot higher than i would pay for
it.  the norah jones', teen pop & and rap will still drive people into the
malls get get the latest sensation.  i don't think that will likely ever
change.

my final thought about it all is use your head when buying your music.
support local independent stores if they are in your area.  used music is
just as good and better for your wallet.  shop around the net- eBay and its
conjoined twin half.com are good places to ubuy music.  you can buy
downloaded copies from artist sites that are legal and generally cheaper
than your local corporate chain store.  the industry will still be around to
try and gouge you and it is your choice whether you allow it to happen or
not.

thanks for reading.

thomas

NP  100th Window by Massive Attack

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:38:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Ryan Anthony <hamsterranch@yahoo.com>
Subject: Vinylcidal mania
Message-ID: <20030310073846.77297.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com>

In Digest #9-12, Josh Phelan remembers finding that
Tulane University radio station WTUL's copy of the
"Dear God"/"Grass" single had been vandalized, with
"enormous gashes" carved into "Dear God" -- and
nowhere else on the record.

Only once before had I heard of such vinylcidal mania.
Some two decades ago, I had a chance to meet and
compare notes with a woman who had grown up on my
block in the 1960s.

(Okay, since she was one of the agenda-setting big
kids and I was one of the little kids, perhaps I
should say I grew up on HER block.)

She told me that her mother, while not forbidding her
to buy or listen to the White Album, had rendered "Why
Don't We Do It In the Road" unplayable by carving
gulleys into that track, and no other, with some sort
of sharp object.

In retrospect, one can only be thankful the mother
plunged the sharp object into a mere record album,
albeit one of the greatest of all time, rather than
into her husband or daughter or son (my best friend in
those days). She was the kind of Roman Catholic who
weeps for the passing of the Spanish Inquisition.

In other sad news, Chalkman Edward Percival reports
the death of Pebbles, his excellent hamster, who lived
three years. What I want to know is, Edward, what's
your secret? Do you buy from a better class of pet
shop whose suppliers don't engage in inbreeding or
overbreeding? Or do you feed your animals an
appropriate amount of appropriate food?

Readers of my New Year's rant (four of you, and
thanks!) know that I believe small domestic animals
should be as nearly spherical as possible. This might
explain why my last companion rodent, Gingrich the
hamster (purchased on Election Day 1994), perished
after only two years of sharing morsels of all the
nasty lardified human food I prepared for myself.

I have since owned a pair of REAL pets, namely dogs,
and I don't think I'll ever go back to mere tribbles,
but if I do, I should stop the enablement and feed my
charges Science Diet for Rodents -- and see if they
attain the Lazaruslongesque life span enjoyed by
Pebbles Percival.

Then again, the motto of every hamster I've ever
owned, dating back to the LBJ Administration, has
been, "Live Fast, Die Young, and Leave a Good-Looking
Corpse For the Cat."

Ryan Anthony

An independent (and as of this moment, non-sales
tax-charging) Internet content provider

P.S.: John, I shopped this post to the
alt.fan.sphericalhamsters newsgroup first, but the
moderator rejected it: "Too much XTC."

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:06:41 +1100
From: "Crawford, Jeff" <crawfordj@mng.newsltd.com.au>
Subject: re: worst live shows
Message-ID: <17B04C523C3ED31195410000F8753548CA4E74@mngxchange.mng.newsltd.com.au>

Greetings Chalkhillians,
As a long-time fan, I'm disappointed to hear (from Annamarie) that Todd is
giving such lacklustre live performances. I get the sense he just isn't
trying these days, he used to deliver big time on stage in his glory days
(judging by live albums, bootlegs etc). Anyone else out there seen him
lately?
Worst concert by a name band for me was a Beach Boys gig in Adelaide in (I
think) 1978. It was an absolute mess. Harmonies were all over the shop
during the entire debacle. At one stage Brian (who was there in body but
certainly not in spirit) stepped up to sing Sloop John B and barely a squeak
came out. He was practically shoved aside and one of the others, possibly Al
Jardine, quickly took over. A raw, drunken You Are So Beautiful from Dennis
was the most soulful moment of the whole sorry occasion.
Years later I found out just how fractured the band was at the time. By all
accounts a huge brawl broke out between the two opposing camps (Love vs
Wilson) at the hotel, involving body guards and musicians.
A mess of a Pretenders gig, when the first line-up was falling apart due to
drug excesses, comes a close second. The highlight was Chrissie Hynde
abusing a friend of mine who was taking pictures. Volatile relationships can
produce great music, but it didn't work for The Pretenders, believe me.
Recently read the brief AP interview in Mojo - interesting to see if he can
write some pop standards to rate alongside the likes of Bacharach, Lennon &
McCartney etc. Of course, most of us know he already he has (at least in our
little world),
Jeff

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:32:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Jim Smart <jimsmart1@yahoo.com>
Subject: from bad to worse
Message-ID: <20030310223234.72208.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com>

>Looks like if the majors want to get back to where
>they were in their heyday,
>they're going to have to actually figure out how to
>provide the world with some good music.  I don't
>think they have it in them.

Me either. The Grammy awards being exhibit A. Does
anyone give a shit about any of the stuff being hawked
these days?

The worst concert I ever saw was The Clash in the
early eighties. Mick Jones had left the band, and they
came to Santa Barbara billed as The Clash, and some
poor sod was thrust into Mick's role and forced to
slog through Should I Stay or Should I Go just because
it had been a hit the year before. Who was that
replacement guy?

I think they made an album that way. I seem to
remember a rather tuneless thing where the chorus
consisted of screaming "We are the Clash!!!", but my
brain has thankfully smothered the memory, probably
our of mercy.

I'm glad that Joe Strummer redeemed this bad decision
with some good Mescalero stuff later on, and I'm very
bummed that he died recently, and I still love the
Clash. But this was a tuneless, bad concert.

I suspect that Joe Strummer's role was a bit like that
of Roger Waters in Pink Floyd. They both were the main
movers and shakers, but they needed their partners to
arrange their strong ideas into magnificent music.

Jim

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:37:26 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net>
Subject: Air Supply, other stuff
Message-ID: <BA9342B6.7B11%cauldron@together.net>

on 3/8/03 10:30 AM, Tyler wrote:

> I also saw Air Supply, but that doesn't really count
> because we went for free, knowing that it would be a
> pathetic laugh riot (we were not disappointed in that
> respect).

  Hmm. While I am emphatically NOT an Air Supply fan, my wife is, and when
they played in New Hampshire a few years ago, the nearest they've been to us
since I met her, so I dutifully treated her(I'm getting her back by taking
her to see Lou Reed tomorrow, BBBWWWHHAAHAAHAA) to a show, with America
opening, no less; has-beens from the 70's opening for has-beens from the
80's. Though their heart-on-sleeve earnestness made me wince at times, their
stripped-down sound for the 90's was quite tolerable(just piano/occasional
synth, bass, drums and guitar, with co-leader Graham Russell playing an
electric 12 string, of all things), even enjoyable at times. I had to remind
myself that they were playing songs I loved to hate in the 80's. One of the
new songs even had political lyrics like they were trying to be Midnight
Oil(fat chance!).
  Hey, it made my wife happy, she had never seen them before. They never
come to Vermont(though the local county fair is about their speed these
days). America was surprisingly tolerable too, I liked them when I was about
twelve. Dewey Bunnell's lyrics still made no sense whatsoever(the likes of
"Tin Man" and "A Horse With No Name" made some of Paul McCartney's more
inane offering seem like Shakespeare sonnets by comparison) and Gerry
Beckley's love songs were still a bit corny, but they played some new
material that was actually pretty good SoCal AAA format pop/rock, along the
lines of Lowen and Navarro or The Rembrandts. Apparently Dewey Bunnell isn't
allowed to write lyrics anymore, which helps.
  Too bad about the Psychedelic Furs, though; I still enjoy their albums, I
found most of them used on cassette during the last ten years and I play
them in the car on occasion. The first album especially is great driving
music. I suspect some of them were having drug problems in the 80's, which
contributed to the worst show by an established band I ever saw: The Gun
Club at Hampshire College sometime in the mid-80's. The band was thrown
together in a hurry, I found out later, Jeffrey Lee Pierce was having
trouble finding people who could put up with his heroin use and attitude
problems. Two of them had never played with the band before and sounded
it(Dee Pop of the Bush Tetras and Jim Duckworth of Panther Burns; only
bassist Patricia Morrison remained from the Miami album a couple of years
before), with a bit of rehearsal they would have sounded better, they
sounded like they didn't really know the songs. Pierce gave a sloppy and
half-assed performance like he wanted to end the show and go shoot up, and
somebody threw up on my sweater.

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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:51:21 +0800
From: "Simon Deane/Gina Chong" <ginsim@netvigator.com>
Subject: A couple of points
Message-ID: <005201c2e7dd$ae6f17a0$0200a8c0@netvigator.com>

It sure is a long time since I last posted here but, anyway, I still keep up
to date with what's going on and read most missives when I get a chance.

I'm inspired to write in on a few issues:

1. My four year old daughter is a burgeoning Andy fan. His "funny voices" on
"That wag" from Fuzzy 1 (I think) has her in paroxysms - actually I myself
think the Dylan take off is pretty good on this - gets me smiling to myself
too. And "Everything will be alright" also has her singing along in the back
of the car. "James and the Giant Peach" is one of her current favourites and
she must already be getting bored with Daddy trying to explain that
"Everything will be alright" and the others was almost used in the film.

2. I've been wondering for a while how XTC fans "came" to the group i.e.
musical antecedents before being converted, if that's the right expression.
As someone nearing mid-40s (bloody hell, am I really that old?), I
principally liked David Bowie and Jethro Tull (with some mercifully short
sidetracks into Genesis and Yes - this was the early 70s, you see), before
settling into XTC. What inspired my interest here was hearing some of the
other oldsters on Chalkhills mentioning Bowie and Tull favourably in
dispatches a couple of years ago (yes, it has taken me that long to write in
about this), and I just wondered whether there was some kind of pattern here
i.e. all Bowie and Jethro Tull fans end up with XTC.

3. I have to pass on a couple of recommendations here - not particularly
recent but deserving of serious interest nevertheless.
The first is Jim White. An English friend of mine living in Houston
recommended his second album "No such place" to me last year when I was over
there on holiday with him. I acquired a copy and have been hooked ever
since. It's difficult to describe the music but I'll try anyway - really
haunting, strange tunes and lyrics - a kind of country Nick Drake mixed with
Tom Waits is as close as I can get. It's the tunes though that really get
you. His first album "Wrong eyed Jesus" is just as good. You could do a lot
worse than invest in both these cds - both on David Byrne's LUAKA BOP label.
Second is Peter Perrett, ex-The Only Ones front man and songwriter. I hadn't
realised but he brought out an album with a new band (The One) in the
mid-90s. I acquired a copy - called "Woke Up Sticky" (which means exactly
what you think it means) and it must be one of  the great lost rock records
of the 90s. It reminded me what a great band The Only Ones were - like XTC,
they weren't really part of the punk mainstream (like XTC, they could all
really play and, what's more, had great songs to get stuck into) but made
the
most of the association while they could. If there had been any justice in
this world, XTC would have been recognised as the Beatles of the New Wave
and The Only Ones as the Stones. The CD is quite difficult to get hold of
but I managed to get a new one from somewhere - it's on demon or dwarf
records and I think Voiceprint sells it. If you can't get the studio release
there is also a Live CD which has all the album stuff on it and that's
pretty good too.

That's all for now.

Simon Deane

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 03:02:22 -0500
From: Jefferson Ogata <ogata@antibozo.net>
Subject: Chalkhorse sighting
Message-ID: <3E703B0E.3080703@antibozo.net>
Organization: The Antibozo

Episode #9 ("Jamming With Edward") of "Cowboy Bebop", an anime running
on the Cartoon Network's "Adult Swim", set in the far future: an
ancient, long-dormant satellite laser-weapon awakens and uses its
weapon to carve a variety of animal caricatures into the surface of
the Earth -- in one newsclip pan of the markings, lo and behold, a
Nazca rendition of the Uffington chalkhorse.

--
Jefferson Ogata : Internetworker, Antibozo
<ogata@antibozo.net>  http://www.antibozo.net/ogata/

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:06:02 -0500
From: "Krys Olsiewicz" <kolsiewicz@hotmail.com>
Subject: RIP Lynne Thigpen
Message-ID: <BAY1-F81rBoe2U8QVjp00039874@hotmail.com>

Lynne played the Chief on Where in the World is Carmen San Diego?

--

Lynne Thigpen, Actress in CBS's 'District,' Dies at 54

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

LOS ANGELES, March 13 - Lynne Thigpen, a Tony Award-winning actress
for "An American Daughter" and a star of "The District," a drama on
CBS, died on Wednesday at her home here. She was 54.

Ms. Thigpen had appeared to be in good health and the cause was not
immediately known, a network spokeswoman, Beth Haiken, said.

On Thursday production of "The District" was shut down. The show
stars Craig T. Nelson as the police chief of Washington. Ms. Thigpen
played his aide, Ella Farmer. The 20th episode was in production
this week, Ms. Haiken said. Twenty-two were planned for the season,
and no decision has been made about how the death will affect the
show.

Ms. Thigpen grew up in Joliet, Ill., and lived primarily in New
York. She had a distinguished stage career and also worked steadily
in films and television. In 1997 she received a Tony for featured
actress in a play for her role as a black Jewish feminist in Wendy
Wasserstein's "American Daughter." Ms. Thigpen recreated the role in
the 2000 television movie made of that play.

She was nominated for a Tony for her role in "Tintypes" and won Obie
Awards for her Off Broadway roles in "Jar the Floor" and "Boesman
and Lena" and an Los Angeles Drama Critics Award for her work in a
production in that city of August Wilson's "Fences."

On television she portrayed the Chief in the PBS series "Where in
the World Is Carmen Sandiego?" and "Where in Time Is Carmen
Sandiego?" She appeared in the series "Thirtysomething" and "L.A.
Law" and the Hallmark Hall of Fame presentations of "Night Ride
Home" and "The Boys Next Door."

Her film credits included "The Insider," "Shaft," "Random Hearts,"
"Lean on Me," "Bob Roberts," "Tootsie" and most recently "Anger
Management."

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