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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 9, Number 1

                  Friday, 3 January 2003

Topics:

                    Best music of 2002
       Andy talks about the price of Fuzzy Warbles
                       Miscellanea
                 2002: The Year In Review
               Happy Farking New Year! [OT]
            is it some kind of weird in-joke?
             flamage -- and a question .....
                       Re: Milk Bar
              Dreaming It's All Bert Over??
              Re: Beeswax versus Rag & Bone
                   literary XTC siting
      Will the real Andy Partridge please stand up?
               Tongue-tied in Pennsylvania
                  more beeswax business

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:18:12 +0000
From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" <xornom@hotmail.com>
Subject: Best music of 2002
Message-ID: <F81RlXtV4HQbnptGPe700017988@hotmail.com>

I'd say my top albums for this year are:

1. Frank Black and the Catholics: Devil's Workshop
2. Ben Folds: Live
3. TMBG: No!
4. Frank Black and the Catholics: Black Letter Days
5. DaVinci's Notebook: Brontosaurus
6. Neko Case: Blacklisted
7. Camper Van Beethoven: Greatest Hits Played Faster (the live disc of the
new box set, which is the only one that hadn't been released before)
8. Tori Amos: Scarlet's Walk
9. Pixies: Pixies (AKA the purple tape)

I haven't bought the Fuzzy Warbles discs yet.  I hope to get them someday,
but I agree with what other people here have been saying about the prices
being high.  I bought Explode Together from the Idea site, and, even with
the import and shipping charges, it ended up costing less than $20, which is
how much it cost at the only store where I've seen it (Borders).  I was
hoping that these same low prices would apply to Fuzzy Warbles, but
apparently not.  I'll probably knuckle down and buy them someday, though.
Is there any chance the prices will go down eventually, or is there a place
to buy them for less money?
--
Be your own broom,
Nathan
DinnerBell@tmbg.org
http://www.geocities.com/fablesto/

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:15:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Bernhardt <beat_town@yahoo.com>
Subject: Andy talks about the price of Fuzzy Warbles
Message-ID: <20021231231559.68582.qmail@web41101.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi:

Watch the Idea site's Chatter area (under the Fly on the Wall subheading) for
an explanation from Mr. Partridge about the price difference between the
Warbles offered through Idea and through major retailers like Amazon. I've no
idea what day Andy and Colin's new set of answers will actually appear
(sometime in the next week, probably), but this link should take you there:

http://www.xtcidearecords.co.uk/cgi-bin/ikonboard/forums.cgi?forum=44

What do I think about Fuzzy Warbles? On the first day of Christmas, my true
love gave to me a pair of Partridge CDs (autographed copies from the Idea site,
natch) ... and I *like* 'em!! Not a bad warble in the bunch, and the quality of
the mixing and mastering is stellar. I'm especially crazy about the
instrumentals, but I've always loved it when Andy lets his avant garde down.

(I also got the English Settlement fleece for a gift -- yes, my true love loves
me, too -- and it's toasty warm and oh-so-attractive. Highly recommended.)

Happy New Year, everyone. Here's to peace, prosperity and good health in 2003!
-Todd

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:27:30 EST
From: Hbsherwood@aol.com
Subject: Miscellanea
Message-ID: <2b.34c24402.2b4381e2@aol.com>

>From: KEVIN.WOLLENWEBER@jpmorgan.com
>Subject: ...And FUZZIES Under the Tree!

>I, for one, hope that Andy dives
>deeply into Zappa albums like BURNT WEENY SANDWICH or UNCLE MEAT or even
>the original mix of WE'RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY or ABSOLUTELY FREE and
>never comes up from that wave, because the kinds of mixtures going on here
>go even further than Zappa ever dared to.

Diving already done, long ago!

I've posted this link before, but a rerun every once in a while never hurt.
It's one of my faves in all of Howling Hyperspace, and it makes me get all
goopy thinking about how cool the Internet is. Taken backstage after a Zappa
Band performance in Birmingham, UK, in 1988.

http://www.geoscott.com/new/band_band.jpg

>From left to right, Robbie Wyborn (Marianne's brother-in-law, and the fella
whose answering-machine message you're all no doubt listening to on Volume
2), Ike Willis, Mike Keneally, Scott Thunes, Andy Partridge, and Dave
Gregory.

The reason Kevin's post triggered this memory is that in Dave's left hand are
copies of Burnt Weenie Sandwich and We're Only In It for the Money (I think
that's what he told me), which Dave was bringing for Frank to autograph. This
(as I've posted before) was the evening of the "Mup" incident described in
Chris Twomey's book.

You might like these too, from the LA period, recording "Oranges and Lemons."

http://www.geoscott.com/new/part_thun.jpg

and

http://www.geoscott.com/new/part_moul_thun.jpg

These are from Scott Thunes' web site.

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>From: "*Hobbes *" <hazchem25@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Milky Bar
>Message-ID: <F94Ahive5UX6PrYuGAd000053ee@hotmail.com>
>
>The phrase ["milk-bar"] easily predates "A Clockwork Orange", as the Ginger
>Meggs pre-war newspaper comics used the phrase.  I imagine it's English
>in origin - I'm sure Professor Sherwood will fill us in if we all ask nicely.

Found a couple of interesting links:

http://uk.geocities.com/hyohsilver/ About the phenomenon of Milk-Bar Cowboys,
originating in Auckland (NZ), defined as "Unruly disorganized groups of
motorcyclists with the philosophy of 'Do what you like when you like'" [and
harm as many as you like, no doubt]. They appear to date from the 1940's and
'50's, influenced by the Brando flick "The Wild Ones."

Also,

http://www.worsleypress.com/milkbar/index.htm "What Is a Milk Bar?"

Definitely seems to be an Antipodean thing....

------

Oh, and one other thing:

Adrian Ransome was *joking,* people! That was, 'ow you say, SATIRE!

Harrison "http://www.otus.oakland.edu/english/showcase/satbib.htm" Sherwood

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 23:40:58 +0000
From: "*Hobbes *" <hazchem25@hotmail.com>
Subject: 2002: The Year In Review
Message-ID: <F9QMohMuAVXDrMGmkJi00019ed8@hotmail.com>

OK OK, I know I recently defended the state of music in 2001 on this list
until i was blue in the face, but it's that time of year again and i can
barely come up with 9 good albums this year:

Badly Drawn Boy - About A Boy

Brendan Benson - Lapalco
(Produced and co-written with Jason Falkner, a good stop gap until the next
Matthew Sweet album)

Candy Butchers - Play with your head
(Album of the year for me.  Fun and catchy bitter pop nuggets that Costello
fans should check out).

Archer Prewitt - Three
(Moving away from his previously baroque arrangements into wonderfully
overwritten progressive arrangements, check it out if you're a fan of the
songwriting on Falkner's Can You Still Feel?)

Anna Waronker - Anna

Icecream Hands - Broken UFO
(Australian Power Pop fans put out fourth great album.  I met the main
songwriter for the band in a record store in Melbourne a few years ago and
ended up discussing our mutual love of XTC)

Wondermints - Mind If We Make Love To You

the Bigger Lovers - Honey In The Hive

Lucky Bishops - Grimstone
(Dukes fans should check this psychpop album out)

Who knows, maybe this time next year i will have discovered more great
albums, but pickings are slim at the moment.  I actually found it easier to
come up with 11 albums that disappointed the hell out of me this year:

Apples in Stereo - Velocity of Sound
Belle & Sebastian - Storytelling
David Bowie - Heathen
Elvis Costello - When I Was Cruel
Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
Future Bible Heroes - Eternal Youth
Imperial Teen - On
Aimee Mann - Lost In Space
Negro Problem - Welcome Black
Wannadies - Before and After
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

While only one of these albums was outright bad (hello FBH), the rest seemed
curiously uninvolving to me, considering how much i like the artists and
their work.

Aimee Mann, the Negro Problem and Elvis Costello's albums all sound so
introspective and internalised it's almost as if their albums deliberately
turn away from the listener.  The Apples added noise and lost subtlety then
ended up with a uniformity of sound that blurs the tracks into each other.
B&S, wannadies and Imperial Teen seemed to be underfiring in the songwriting
stakes, whilst Wilco and Flaming Lips suffered in my ears from how much i
loved their previous albums.

I just have to single out the Blur single "Don't bomb when you are the bomb"
for particular derision, since it sounds like a bad 80's b-side by a
half-forgotten one-hit wonder synthesizer duo with unfortunate hair
with the most pathetic excuse for a 'chorus' i've ever heard.  Anyone who
puts such little effort into their music and expects me to part with my
money for it has made my shitlist for life.  If you think i'm exaggerating
then you obviously haven't heard it.  Wankers.

*****************************************
The 'I just don't understand the hype' category:

Beck - Sea Change
Coldplay - A Rush of Blood To The Head
the Vines - Highly Evolved
Doves - the Last Broadcast

*Especially* the Vines:  there's better australian bands out there with much
stronger songwriting, and are usually torn apart and ridiculed by the
patronising English Press!  Why them???

***********************************

Recently discovered great albums from last year:

Guided By Voices - Isolation Drills
(Suddenly gained unexpected power and ended up with a 50 concise minute
album instead of filling the disc to capacity).

Kevin Tihista's Red Terror - Don't Breath A Word
(Elliott Smith Fans take note)

Mull Historical Society - Loss
(Great songs from a guy with Phil Spector envy)

Nathan Larson - Jealous God
(Shudder To Think guitarist goes solo, produced by Langer and Winstanley and
sounds like Costello / TRex / Morrisey)

**********************************

Here's hoping the new year brings a new XTC album!

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 17:17:07 -0800
From: Kyla <kyla17@earthlink.net>
Subject: Happy Farking New Year! [OT]
Message-ID: <3E124192.F28CCFB8@earthlink.net>

Wanted to say that I believe the infamous f-word post (Hullo, Adrian) is a
parody of someone else's post, someone who was unhappy at having bought
Warbles Fuzzy over the Internet, rather than at their local record
mega-chain for a few bucks less. Not a terribly clever parody, though. I
mean, the reason the Nat Lamp 'Magical Misery Tour' was hilarious, was that
it aptly paraphrased the Rolling Stone Lennon interviews, including the use
of the f-word every fourth word. And of course, Tony Hendra's clever
impression added to the fun.

So much meaningless dissension. So strange to see that here. I think we're
all stressed due to the depression and oncoming war. And the whole terrorism
thing. I mean, I think all of these are global, aren't they? Christmas can
be a blue time for some folks, too. But not me - I went to Texas to see my
Mom and Bro for a whole two weeks. And I have a friend's house to go to this
evening, and it's been quite a while that I've been to a New Year's Eve
party. Negotiated the madhouse of the local upscale grocery store, where I
paid beaucoup dollars for a strawberry cake. (That's wot I get for putting
off assembling one myself til the last minute.)

Well, gotta go clean up. 'X'pect to play poker, talk myself blue in the
face, eat myself silly and watch the ball drop. May hot tub, depending on
how (a.) dark and (b.) cold it is outside.

HAPPY NEW YEAR, CHALKHILLIANS!
Peace,
Kyla

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:21:03 EST
From: Poisongold@aol.com
Subject: is it some kind of weird in-joke?
Message-ID: <24.333f21d7.2b439c7f@aol.com>

or do I have a weird mental block about something right in front of my face?

...but is "Wait 'Til Your Boat Goes Down" in print anywhere?

Not one of my favorite XTC songs, but one wouldn't expect it just to
disappear...would one?

Does AP hate it?

Does Virgin hate its sales figures?

As bad comedians say, "What's the deal?"

As too-white suburban college students say, "What the dilly-yo?"

As I say, "Happy new year to Chalkhill-billies everywhere!!!  Looking forward
to getting my Fuzzy Warbles!  Can anyone answer my question about 'WTYBGD'?"

MJC

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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 07:42:56 -0500
From: "Danny Phipps" <phipps@schoollink.net>
Subject: flamage -- and a question .....
Message-ID: <web-35098824@schoollink.net>

<delurking>

hello, all --

been a LONG time since i last posted anything to the
Hill-list here and, what can i say but, "WOW!!"  a lot of
personal flamage going on lately between listers.  hope it
smooths out soon.  (mr. relph, it looks like this issue is
gonna keep you hoppin' for a while, huh?)

i have a question and please forgive me if this subject's
been brooched before, as i haven't had any spare time
recently to read any / many digests coming to my mail
server......(get on the with the question already, man!!)
 does anyone here know if it's *official* that andy
partridge and peter blegvad are indeed going to release
another collaborative album (ala "king strut & other
stories") at some point in 2003?  i was informed as such
and hadn't really looked into any further research on the
matter.....figured someone here might know.  thanks for any
info on it.  :-)

take care, all......and happy new year to everyone on the
Hill!

***give Love each day!***

/danny

<back to lurking>

---
"Too many people preachin' practices -- don't let 'em tell
 you what you wanna be!"
                                              ~ macca

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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 11:07:18 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net>
Subject: Re: Milk Bar
Message-ID: <BA387C66.6AB1%cauldron@together.net>

on 12/31/02 1:43 PM, some aussie wrote:

> For me it's a particularly 70's term though... It conjures up images of
> Chicko Rolls, Mullets, Thongs, Panel Vans, Stubbies Shorts, Donna Summer
> singing "Hot Stuff" on the 40 & 20 meat pie ads, Abba, Skyhooks and Kiss on
> the Radio, Space Invaders, Puberty Blues, Storm Boy and girls without bras
> in bright yellow Moove Chocolate Milk t-shirts.
>
> Now that all the non-aussies on this list are *completely* mystified, i'll
> return you to your regularly scheduled reading.

  Not too mystified; I went through a period in the 80's of picking up vinyl
copies of remaindered Aussie albums that I'd remember a good review of in
some magazine a year or so before for like 88 cents every time I paid a
visit to St Marks Sounds in NYC(I visited there a lot more frequently before
I got married; my small town Vermont wife hates big cities). Among them was
a couple of Skyhooks albums, one of which I still have and intend to keep:
The US version of Ego Is Not A Dirty Word, which is basically the same songs
as their first album Living In The Seventies minus the title song. The
Aussie Ego Is Not A Dirty Word is a different album altogether. Confused
yet? Don't blame you. Worth picking up if you see it used(don't know if it's
out on CD); their other albums are a bit more dodgy, but Greg McAinsh was a
highly perceptive songwriter on a par with Ray Davies, but judging from his
one lead vocal on one of their later albums, he was not a singer. And I
frankly find lead singer Graeme Strachan's voice a bit hard to take, though
I must admit it sounds like nobody else.
  Don't know about mullets, though, wasn't that more of an 80's/early 90's
thing? I remember the lead singer of a band I was in in '91 had one that
rivalled Billy Ray Cyrus'. And most of the rest I suppose I would have had
to grow up in Aussie in the 70's to understand.

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:44:10 +0000
From: Steve.Pitts@i-tcs.com
Subject: Dreaming It's All Bert Over??
Message-ID: <OFC889DACF.2179D297-ON80256CA1.0053A676@i-tcs.com>

Chalkfolks,

(Apologies for being so far behind hand, but I've only recently had an
opportunity to catch up on the past dozen digests or so)

In #8-65 Darryl Bullock informed us, of Fuzzy Warbles:

> they're never going to be seen by casual listeners as they will only be
available through the official Idea site <

Not so, since I've seen them in at least two different record shops (MVC
in Watford for one)

and in #8-66 Smudgeboy stated:

> it's very rare that an erstwhile radio DJ just sticks on an XTC track for
the sake of it <

I assume that you didn't actually mean 'erstwhile' since as far as I know
the Mr. Woss to whom you wefer is actually a cuwwent DJ, n'est ce pas??

In #8-71 Molly crooned:

> You know Adrian, calm down <

<sigh> Why do I get the feeling that you don't do irony lass?? Oh, and
Molly in reference to any earlier post, why does the fact that our Bert
the troll expresses some fairly contrarian and contradictory opinions make
him any less (or more) of an XTC fan than the rest of us?? Forgive me, but
I didn't realise this was a pissing contest and I for one have no desire
to be judged on how big a fan I am

and Andrew Gowans exclaimed:

> I shall in fact sing the praises of Fuck in a manner that all can join in <

Already been done, old son. Take a listen to Fucking Ada by Ian Dury :)

Finally, just to add my take on the Fuzzy Warbles pricing furore: I wasn't
surprised to see the CDs cheaper in some shops, because generally an
artist that wants to sell through retail outlets isn't going to undercut
the price they can sell at whilst selling direct. Just as an example of
someone in a similar situation, Roy Harper (another artist of
long-standing with less commercial success than their talent deserves and
a history of record company woes, but who now owns all of his back
catalogue and publishes everything through his own label) released a
rarities/demos collection earlier this year, dating back to the mid-1960s
in his case, which was sold only at his gigs or through his Science
Friction label, for sixteen and a half quid. That price made me baulk
rather more than Andy's 12 quid but since I have the same sky-high
affection for both Roy and XTC you can guess which way I've jumped :)
Seems to me that such recordings can't be all that cheap to produce
either, at least not in the sort of quantities that we're talking about

As for recommendations for music from 2002, the new Tom Petty album 'The
Last DJ' isn't three bad and Nick Harper's live double album 'Double Life'
was simply breathtaking, but the album that has got the most spins in
recent times has to be the debut from The Coral. Reminds me a little of
the Dukes and rather more of early Floyd, but with more than enough of an
individualist twist to make it something else entirely.

Oh, and RIP Joe Strummer. Billy Bragg said it better than I ever could.
Nice one Bill

Cheers, Steve

NP: The Cure - Seventeen Seconds

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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 23:22:35 -0500
From: Groove Disques <info@groovedisques.com>
Subject: Re: Beeswax versus Rag & Bone
Message-ID: <001001c2b216$939279b0$baa22e44@yourzpvq75jcr6>

My vinyl copy of Beeswax is downstairs, but a quick glance at Rag & Bone
Buffet makes me think it only covers half of Beeswax. If I had to choose
one, I'd stick with Beeswax.

In an unrelated matter, has anyone picked up the kids' album "No!" by They
Might Be Giants? We bought it for our boys for Christmas, and I think Daddy
may be sneaking it off to work some days. I've always found TMBG's proper
releases distracting, but it suits this CD's mission just fine. Some of the
stuff reminds me of something a younger, sillier Andy Partridge might have
put out. Happy New Year!

Jim
http://www.groovedisques.com

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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:44:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Eby <jeffaeb@yahoo.com>
Subject: literary XTC siting
Message-ID: <20030102044437.26717.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm surprised I haven't seen it mentioned here yet.

While browsing at a book store I noticed The Onion's new celebrity
interview book "The Tenacity of the Cockroach:Conversations with
Entertainment's Most Enduring Outsiders."  Sure enough, Andy's
excellent 1997 interview is included in a chapter about entertainers
in bad contracts.  A quote from his interview is also used as the
title of the chapter "Let us out of this deal, oh great Satan"

--
If only I could stop using self-deprecating humor I know that I could
be a much better person.

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:34:49 -0000
From: Adrian Ransome <Adrian.Ransome@tsi-ltd.co.uk>
Subject: Will the real Andy Partridge please stand up?
Message-ID: <497FEA72C392D3118AE700508B73117705AE9A95@nt4server03.tsi-ltd.co.uk>

Kevin Wollenweber wrote:

>Oh, by the way, Adrian.Ransome@tsi-ltd.co.uk, be honest
>with me; you're really Andy Partridge in disguise, adding your
>nudge, nudge, wink, wink to this list, right?

If thinking that I'm Andy helps you to find the humour in my post, then
carry on thinking I'm Andy.

Kevin also prodded a distant memory about the Andy Partridge + Apples In
Stereo project. Will that ever see the light of day? Can anyone with a
contact line to either party please let us know?

Everyone please note that the word "fuck" does not appear in this post. Oh,
fuck it; it fucking *does*!
(Only three times, Mr Gowans).

Wishing all inhabitants of the Hill a peaceful, prosperous and marvellous
2003.

Adrian

"...trit trot, trit trot, trit trot.."

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:18:57 -0500
From: Kulak Matthew-MGI0253 <matt.kulak@motorola.com>
Subject: Tongue-tied in Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <4788A0BB433CD611B8B00002B30CF07D02FF5AB0@pa06exm02.e1.bcs.mot.com>

I have one quick, follow up question for KEVIN.WOLLENWEBER, who wrote . . .

>and both seem to have that guilty pleasure of deeply indulging
>in all that acid and flowers pop of that earlier age, while
>clouding its naivete with tongue firmly in cheek  . . .

I'm assuming, of course, you mean tongue firmly in "Harrison's" cheek,
right?  After all, we've been told quite clearly by Ted "Teddy" Swift
that Harrison's hole apparently has more of our tongues in it than
Adrian Ransome has f-words in his latest post!

Matt "Harrison, would you mind laying off the bean dip for a bit?" Kulak

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:50:56 -0000
From: "Darryl W. Bullock" <drol@btinternet.com>
Subject: more beeswax business
Message-ID: <000001c2b338$cd1a7980$19a2fea9@Bullock>

For those who have asked, Beeswax was indeed issued on CD - in Japan only -
on April Fool's Day 1992. Catalogue number VJCP 23145, no extra tracks but
with fabulously mis-translated lyrics including the following gem:

'Punch And Judy in a Semi
On a brand new couch from Glouster (sic)
Sunday lunchtime beautiful punch time
While he's getting his farm from Boston..'

Wonderful, innit? Do you think the translator was thinking of the City or
the group? Can you imagine buying a farm from a man in a poodle-perm?

And dare I forget

'In the maybe using the baby as a kind of roll man's pastry....'

Darryl

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