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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 8, Number 7

                 Friday, 18 January 2002


                  Re: Save it For Later
         High, Very High, Like a Real High Thing
                        dB's, etc
                    Kinks suggestions
                RE: Mike "Oh My" Keneally
I'm the other man that loved the other version of "I'm the Man Who Murdered 
                     Re: Best of 2001
         RE: Richard Thompson, albums of the year
                    Re: dBs and Elvis
                     The best of 2001
             kinks, kinks, good for the heart
                        Y'got me!
                   Kinks recommendation
                   Re: How time flies!
              "You say potato", Episode 9423
               Best of 2001, slight return
                   AP and Mike Keneally
             Rare XTC - non- flexi flexi.....
                     Re: Best of 2001
                 Cupboards press release
                       Hey, B-52's!
                 A brief history of poop


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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:35:43 EST
Subject: Re: Save it For Later
Message-ID: <>

Funny that the English Beat and the Kinks come up here, because my "6
Favorite Songwriters" (in "High Fidelity" fashion) are:

Andy Partridge/Colin Moulding
Ray Davies
Paul Weller
Dave Wakeling
Glenn Tilbrook/Chris Difford
Elvis Costello

What I really want to know about Wakeling is his diet plan.  I share Andy's
body type and went from 165 in the 80's to 225 currently (and holding!).  I
saw General Public on the "Rub it Better" tour around 1995 & Wakeling had to
weigh 240.  Saw him last year (calling himself the English Beat, but with no
original members backing him) and he's back to 165!  I hope it's not that
only having one hit (and a cover at that) in the last 15 years makes Wakeling
a "starving artist."  Hope the Beat gets back together again, the
Wakeling-Roger vocal gymnastics are fun to hear live.

As for 2001, here's the best I can do:
1. Ben Folds - Rockin the Suburbs
2. They Might Be Giants - Mink Car
3. Paul Weller - Days of Speed (Live Acoustic)
4. Jools Holland - Rhythm & Blues
5. Weezer - Weezer
6. Glenn Tilbrook - Incomplete
7. John Wesley Harding - Diary of St. Ace (think it was late 2000 actually)
8. Strokes - Is This It

Pretty slim pickins in a year when the best shows I saw were reunions of
bands that were dormant for 20 years (Roxy Music & Soft Boys).
Doug Mashkow
+Valley Stream, NY USA


Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:05:12 +0100
From: art et affiche <>
Subject: Pavaroasted
Message-ID: <>


Mr David Smith said:
>>Marie O said of Andy's voice:

> Yes it's a little nasal, Andy is no Pavarotti,

Well vive la difference Mam'selle! Imagine Luciano belting
out Knights In Shining Karma. It's too horrible to even

You're damn right! What a nightmare!! And Big Luciano
singing '' I'd like that '' with the complete orchestra of La Scala
di Milano... Imagine the lyrics with the'' toasting fork '' passage...
All that meat roasting? Arrrgh...
But I think Andy Partridge is a great singer anyway.

Oh, and thank you Mr. Todd, you wrote
>>La belle Marie a dit:>>
So, you have seen me already?  ; )

Big Express day coming... tchou tchou!!
Congratulations Queen jayne, great job.


Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:16:38 EST
Subject: High, Very High, Like a Real High Thing
Message-ID: <>

>From: Gary McBride <>
>Subject: Commercial Potential...

>it conjured up
>this quote from Steve Jobs regarding the new iMac.
>Anyone know Andy's platform of choice?

Andy has a Macintosh G4 running Cubase VST, largely for MIDI sequencing. He
does not (unless he's fibbing) have an Internet account. He had trouble with
the Mac at first owing to a criminally negligent vendor who configured it all
wrong, but it's running nicely now.

Those new iMacs are very cool-looking, but as consumer machines they aren't
very expandable. So unless you want to buy one of those MOTU FireWire input
boxes (or some USB-based AD/DA converter device), you can't get 24-bit audio
into one. Best to stick with the tower G4s with a soundcard.

>From The Relphster:

>Word is that "A Coat of Many Cupboards" will be released in the
>U.K. on February 25.  Other than what our own hapless goober, Harrison
>Sherwood, has told us, that's all I really know.

Don't know much more myself. I have a track-listing, but I've been asked not
to share it, because Andy's paranoid about bootleggers making up their own
versions. (You guys wouldn't do *that*, would you? Naaaaaaah!) Most I can say
is that the idea to divide the material into 4 CDs (Demos, Live, Outtakes,
A&C Favorites) has been scrapped in favor of a chronological arrangement.

The booklet will contain (besides my own Hapless Gooberisms) rare & unseen
photos taken from the Virgin vaults, and track-by-track commentary by Andy &
Colin. I've not yet seen a proof of the booklet, but am told one is coming
Real Soon Now.

>From: "Steve Johnson" <>
>Subject: Free Willie
>Message-ID: <>

>I see.  Because they had a good reason to sell their publishing rights
>(i.e., needed lots of cash fast), they had no choice in the matter.
>Anybody else smell a contradiction?
>I BET they needed lots of cash to pay for those limousines, Twiggy-style
>babes, personal maharishis, plush accommodations, and not to mention the
>really, really good Norwegian wood.  But regardless of the reason, the
>apparently still-undisputed fact remains that they pushed the evil pen
>with their own hands!

Hardly.  I guess that's what I get for doing quick, cut-and-paste Internet
research. The following is from Allan Kozinn's _The Beatles_, recommended by
the FAQ as the clearest and most reliable (i.e., unbiased)
Beatle history, describing the fallout following the death of Brian Epstein
and the formation of Apple:

   In February [1969; Epstein died in August of '67], all four
   [Beatles] signed an agreement appointing Eastman and Eastman
   as general counsel for Apple. But Lennon, Harrison, and
   eventually Starr, had doubts about the arrangement. Lennon
   had a competing proposal. Allen Klein, a New York music
   manager...offered his services. Klein impressed Lennon,
   who signed him as his personal representative. Harrison and
   Starr backed Klein too. McCartney did not. So the others,
   with typical naivety, decided that both John Eastman and
   Allen Klein could look after the group's interests.

   The first joint endeavour should have been to buy NEMS
   Enterprises, Epstein's management firm. which took a 25%
   commission from the Beatles' record royalties, and was
   now for sale. Epstein's family said it would rather sell
   the company to the Beatles than to the highest bidder,
   Triumph Investment Group. Yet just as NEMS was within
   their grasp, managerial infighting scared the Epsteins
   into the arms of Triumph.

   Eventually Klein managed to buy the Beatles out of the
   NEMS contract. But another disappointment loomed. Dick
   James, the publisher who signed Lennon and McCartney
   in 1963, and was the principal shareholder of Northern
   Songs, the company he formed to handle their catalog,
   was alarmed at Lennon's avant-gardism and had staunchly
   opposed their involvement with Klein. He had also had
   enough of the group's increasingly high-handed treatment
   of him. So when Lennon and McCartney were on their
   honeymoons, in March, he sold his shares in the company
   to Lew Grade's ATV Music.

   Klein sought to seize control of the company for the Beatles.
   Complicated negotiations were undertaken with a consortium
   that controlled the decisive shares, and which was inclined
   toward the Beatles. But at the last minute, Lennon publicly
   proclaimed his disinclination to deal with businessmen,
   and by late May, Grade had won control of the company.

Boil all this down, and what separated the Beatles from the control of their
own catalog wasn't greed for personal luxury items as you imply (they made
kajillions from plenty of other sources like mechanical royalties,
performances and merchandise). What did the deed was terrible planning on
Brian Epstein's part, malice (possibly justified) on Dick James' part, and
incredible naivety and pigheadedness on the part of the Beatles, especially
(but not exclusively) John Lennon. They *lost* their catalog. They didn't
sign it away.

Harrison "Look behind the sofa, Paulie!" Sherwood


Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:18:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Sean Winkel <>
Subject: dB's, etc
Message-ID: <>

<<Anyway, onwards ho! Ben Gott inquired about the dBs.
Since I suspect their jangly R.E.M.-style (one of the
members, Jefferson Holt, was an unofficial fifth
R.E.M. touring member for a while) <<

This is not quite so.  Jefferson Holt was actually
REM's manager for many years (right up 'til his
unceremonious dismissal following sexual harrassment-
possibly date rape, don't recall- charges).  The
"fifth REM-er" and former dB  you're referring to is
Peter Holsapple.  One of the first shows I ever
attended was actually the dB's (with Stamey) and Let's
Active (a wonderful band- "Cypress" is a classic, AND
Mitch Easter, Let's Active's leader- along with Don
Dixon- Chapel Hill, NC- co-produced REM's first three
releases) in my high school auditorium in Winston
Salem, NC- from whence both bands hailed.  A wonderful
show. Two years later I saw REM play in that same
auditorium (with the Minutemen!)('85?).

Regardless, the complilation to which you refer is
pretty much everything you need by the dB's.

Hi.  I'm new here.


>   <


Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:19:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Melinda Hautala <>
Subject: Kinks suggestions
Message-ID: <>

> "The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society,"
> "Face to Face"

To go with these 2, you really need to have "Something Else" and
"Arthur" (which I think is one of the best albums ever recorded by

Please excuse me if you've already discussed this, as I've only just
recently re-joined after a several-year absence, but you should look
for the recent re-issues of the Kinks albums, with the extra tracks.
On "Village Green", this is less exciting, but on "Something Else", the
extra tracks are almost another whole album.  Most importantly, one of
the tracks is the song "Autumn Almanac", which is the song Andy once
said in an interview he'd spent his life trying to "re-write".  When
you hear it, it will be like a light bulb going off over your head, as
far as the obvious Andy-ness.  You'll think, "Holy crap, *that's* where
he's coming from..."

I'd like to also recommend "Lola vs. Powerman and the Money-Go-Round".
The song "Lola", so overplayed on classic-rock-radio, seems utterly
different in the context of this album.  The album is about the music
biz and how it screws you, and "Lola" is like "THE HIT", the rest of
the album doesn't even sound like it.

--Mel (likes Foxtrot, Selling England, and Lamb Lies Down)


Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:52:06 -0800
From: "Kerry Chicoine" <>
Subject: RE: Mike "Oh My" Keneally
Message-ID: <000801c19ebe$e4b61e80$>

John Relph <> wrote:

> Best releases of 2001 (snip) Mike Keneally: Wooden Smoke (snip)

Even without checking the Chalkhills archives, I'm certain that Mike
Keneally and his band Beer for Dolphins have been mentioned in this fine
forum a time or seven. While I haven't heard the above-referenced album
(yet), I *have* recently discovered his CD "Dancing", released in 2000.
Unbelievable music, gentle listeners! Mr. Keneally channels Andy so
amazingly on the 2-minute Bacharach homage "Only Mondays", and fans of
Steely Dan will marvel over a beautiful song called, simply, "Joe". There's
also musical references to Rabin-era Yes (the rocking "Live In Japan", Kings
X ("Backwards Deb") and even Foo Fighters ("Ankle Bracelet"), along with
some free-form prog/rock/jazz numbahs (check out the utterly Kubrick-esque
synth break in "Selfish Otter"). Exciting, engaging, intelligent music
definitely worth exploring. This record actually made my soul orgasm,
repeatedly. Soulgasm!

This record has changed my musical life in much the same way that Apple
Venus Volume One did in that they both offer tantalizing glimpses into the
possibilities of pop songwriting ("I Can't Own Her", in particular). I'm
grateful that at the advanced age of 39, I'm still discovering music that
inspires and amazes me.

Oddly, the alligator.

kErrY kOMpOst

NP: KC Bowman - Friendly Farmhands


Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:58:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Eby <>
Subject: I'm the other man that loved the other version of "I'm the Man Who
Message-ID: <>

Murdered Love"
David Smith said

>>I listened to Homegrown in the car today. Am I wrong
for preferring Andy's original version of I'm The Man
Who Murdered Love?<<

I love that melody, he's got to bring that back
somehow.  I often find myself humming that endearing
little tune.  Personally I find the album version a
little too desperate to be a single.

(And no I'm not talking about the "tamla" version.)

"Y'all don't know what it's like
being male, middle-class, and white"
Ben Folds, Rockin' the Suburbs


Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:00:55 -0500
From: Chris Conroy <>
Subject: Re: Best of 2001
Message-ID: <>

So John Relph sez...

> Last, and perhaps least, the highly anticipated but ultimately
> forgettable releases of 2001:
> Suzanne Vega: Songs in Red and Gray
> The Verve Pipe: Underneath
> Geggy Tah: Into The Oh
> Blake Babies: God Bless the Blake Babies
> Radiohead: Amnesiac
> They Might Be Giants: Mink Car

While I agree with Suzanne Vega's album being included in this list, I think
that Mink Car is one of TMBG's best album. Very listenable. Very catchy.
Clever lyrics. Everything I expect from TMBG.

Chris Conroy
Heartwood Media Inc.


Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:41:45 -0800
From: "da9ve stovall" <>
Subject: RE: Richard Thompson, albums of the year
Message-ID: <>

>From: travis schulz <>
>Subject: Richard Thompson
>Hi Chalkies....I have become a huge fanatic of Richard
>Thompson and I am forever grateful to those who
>recommended his music on the top ten of the year lists
>posted here.  I know a lot of other XTC fans like his
>stuff as well and I was just wondering if anyone might
>email me with some recommendations from his Fairport
>Convention days.

Hi all - first-time poster, short-time lurker Da9ve here.

I'm a big Richard Thompson fan, too, and have most of the Fairport
stuff ever released (lots of vinyl), 'cept for the past few years
when I've trailed off.  I would not hesitate in recommending
_Liege and Lief_ and _House Full_ and/or _Full House_ (I *think*
Richard was on those last two), as well as their second album
_What We Did On Our Holidays_.  I've never been able to get into
the first album, Dylan covers notwithstanding.  If you're up
for non-RT Fairport, I consider _Babbacombe Lee_ a classic, and
_In Real Time: Live '87_ is very accessible and energetic, and
even has Richard on a track or two (not really sure how many).
 If you've not got it yet, the RT compilation _Watching the Dark_
has a fair representation of those early years, and most of the
best live stuff he's released on it - and his live shows generally
blow away the (still excellent) studio albums.

I've had my interest spike in RT again just recently, having
come by a live tape of the first time I saw him in person, in
1993.  The show stands out in memory 'cos it was just Richard
on acoustic and singing, and Danny Thompson on stand-up bass.
 They started the show and played three songs, and then Richard
started introductions, but didn't get any further than "We're.
. . ." (much like the "It's" guy at the beginning of Monty Python
episodes) when some joker in the audience yelled out "The Thompson
Twins!" and brought the house down.

>From: John Relph <>
>Subject: Best of 2001
>Best releases of 2001:
>Mike Keneally: Wooden Smoke

I LOVE seeing Keneally showing up on other folks' 'best of' lists.
 I'm one of the real die-hard MK fans, having seen him live around
20 times now, and having a big stash of live shows on CD-R.
He just gets more interesting as time passes, and _Wooden Smoke_
is probably going to prove more widely appealing than most of
the albums that came before.  And he's just a helluva nice guy,

>Last, and perhaps least, the highly anticipated but ultimately
>forgettable releases of 2001:
>Suzanne Vega: Songs in Red and Gray

Yeah, I'll second that.



Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:53:29 EST
Subject: Re: dBs and Elvis
Message-ID: <>

Ah, the Dbs - stands for Dead Brilliants. Seeing them at Dingwalls all too
many yonks ago was a rare treat.

As for Elvis C's Top 500 - no, I couldn't understand the omission by a man of
such exemplary taste of T Heads, XTC, Buckley T or Todd R, much less his old
muckers/rivals, Graham Parker and Jerry Dammers. Still, imperfection is so
much more interesting.



Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:12:21 +0000
From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" <>
Subject: The best of 2001
Message-ID: <>

David Smith:
>I listened to Homegrown in the car today. Am I wrong for
>preferring Andy's original version of I'm The Man Who
>Murdered Love?

Which one?  If I'm not mistaken, there are THREE versions of that song on

Iain Murray:
> > > > Top 50 Albums of 2001 according to my sorry ass:
> >
> > I must be getting old as I had a hard time coming up with more than 10!
>Wow, you got 10? My list of 10 would be mostly albums that I only picked up
>on in 2001, but were released much earlier.

That's true for me, too.  How do you other people find so much new music?
And how do you AFFORD it, for that matter?

The five (or six, depending on how you count the YFF/Minus Five thing) new
albums I bought in 2001 are:

1. They Might Be Giants: Mink Car
2. Frank Black and the Catholics: Dog in the Sand
3. Hypnotic Clambake: Varicose Brain
4. Pixies: Complete B-Sides
5. Young Fresh Fellows/Minus Five: Because We Hate You/Let the War Against
Music Begin

Other worthwhile albums from earlier years that I didn't discover until 2001
include the majority of the Frank Black and Pixies back catalogs, Homegrown,
and Blur's Modern Life Is Rubbish.  I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting,



Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:26:09 -0500
From: James Michael Isaacs <>
Subject: kinks, kinks, good for the heart
Message-ID: <>

Michael Versaci-
I am a James... the James?  Probably.
To prove-
When listening to the Kinks, the must that you are missing is
"Something Else".  The CD reissue that includes all the bonus tracks
is almost as good as the album itself.  "Arthur" is excellent also.
In reply to the member who wanted to know about burning CDs from LPs,
it can be done.  I have done it twice- once with Robyn Hitchcock's
Mossy Liquor, and once with a Little Enis album- with varying degrees
of success.  (Has anyone ever heard of Little Enis?  10 bonus points
if you have...)  I can give rudimentary instructions if you wish.



Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:32:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Ryan Anthony <>
Subject: Y'got me!
Message-ID: <>

If I were a Brit, I'd tell Randy Posynick: "It's a
fair cop!" But since I'm a Yank, I'll clutch my chest
and keel over while groaning, "Augh! Y'got me,

Posynick emailed me off-list to explain that Elvis
Costello did indeed include Frank Zappa on his
greatest-500-albums-of-all-time list -- hidden under
"M" for "Mothers of Invention."

Good eye, Randy.

Aw, c'mon, Declan! Are you saying Zappa peaked in
1968? Are you saying the Mothers were an important
musical collective rather than merely a bunch of guys
who used to back up Frank Zappa? Can you name one of

Besides the immortal Jimmy Carl Black, the Indian of
the group, of course.

Bruce Springsteen's *The River* made Costello's Top
500, and the compiler singled out "Point Blank" as the
twin disc's choicest cut. Which reminds me. In
1979-80, when I was still listening to mainstream rock
radio, in the months before *The River* was released,
I heard an early mix of "Point Blank" that was
grittier and, to my ear, superior to the song which
appeared on the album. It was the *Homespun* version,
you might say. (There! XTC content!) Two decades
later, I'd still love to hear that early mix. How
would one look for it?

In other news, kudos to Christopher R. Coolidge for
digging this out of Jack Kerouac's *On the Road*:

"When daybreak came we were zooming through New Jersey
with the great cloud of Metropolitan New York rising
before us in the snowy distance. Dean had a sweater
wrapped around his ears to keep warm. He said we were
a band of Arabs coming to blow up New York."


Finally, Michael Versaci asks,

"What other Kinks records should I be looking out

*Arthur, or the Decline and Fall of the British
Empire* from 1969. The ol' Hamster Rancher gives it
four-and-a-half hamsters.


Ryan Anthony

An independent Internet content provider

P.S.: Now I'm going to have to pull *Oranges & Lemons*
out of the car player and replace it with *Arthur*. If
you see me, a few days from now, wearing a hat like
Anthony Eden's, you will know why.


Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:28:42 -0500
From: "Michael D. Myers" <>
Subject: Kinks recommendation
Message-ID: <>

Chalksters and Chalkettes;

Michael Versaci recently asked:
>I have been enjoying (beyond my own expectations) some of the mid-sixties
>Kinks records.  I find their lack of polish less and less of an issue as
>the songs grow on me, almost part of their charm, so to speak.  I have
>"Muswell Hillbillies," "The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation
>Society," "Face to Face" and a CD-R of "The Kinks - Great & Lost."  I also
>remember once really liking "Misfits" (which I think is mid-seventies)
>although I no longer have access to that one.

>What other Kinks records should I be looking out for?

Michael, I have been a huge Kinks fan since the mid-60's (yes, I am  that
old).  I've bored the list with the story about sitting in my father's car
listening to the radio when I first heard "You Really Got Me", and I felt
like my head was going to explode because I had never heard anything like
that before (nor had anyone else, I daresay).

Anyway, the Kinks proved to be much more than one-hit wonders and went on
to produce a string of 6 albums that were so sublime that I would stack
their late 60's to early 70's output against anyone else's.  Yes, that
means anyone else (including the Beatles, who I also adore).  The sequence
is:  Face to Face (1966);  Something Else (1967);  Village Green
Preservation Society (1968);  Arthur (1969);  Lola (1970);  Muswell
Hillbillies  (1971).  I've used shorthand for some of the titles because
I'm a painfully bad typist; also, I left "Percy" out because it's a
soundtrack.  So you're halfway there!  Do pick up the other 3;  you'll
never regret it.  For those of you who may want to get a great taste of
this experience, there's a 2-CD retrospective called "Kinks Kronikles" that
is the best 2-CD release ever made, IMO.  Bold words, but this is
incredible stuff.

When I met Andy and Colin at the "Meet and Greet" at Tower Records in NYC
when AV1 came out, we had a nice conversation about the Kinks, and it is
clear that the XTC members are huge Kinks fans.  Not at all a suprise to

Take care and stay well,


Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:46:11 -0600
From: "Amanda Owens" <>
Subject: Re: How time flies!
Message-ID: <>

*COUGH* Someone please fly over some seriously alcoholic cough medicine for
this nasty bugger I've got right now.....

Molly did sayeth:

>I've also noticed that next year will be Andy Partridge's 50th
>birthday.  When I thought about this I almost fell over.  I don't know
>why, but this just put me in shock.  I know it's over a year off, but I
>think we should do something special to celebrate his 50th b'day.  :)

*AHEM* And what about Mr. Dave Gregory, who shall hit the big 5-0 this year?
I certainly plan on lavishing him with something huge and embarassing.
(Hmmm, maybe my own person would take care of that area.....)

And on that note, am I the only person on this list who did not buy a "new"
album in 2001? The only album I bought last year that was actually released
last year shall remain nameless to save myself from sheer embarrasment

Tis all for now,
Amanda C. Owsens
XTC song of the day-Statue of Liberty
non XTC song-Whisper to a Scream-Icicle Works


Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:02:58
From: "Duncan Kimball" <>
Subject: "You say potato", Episode 9423
Message-ID: <>

Drearest Chalkulaters,

Are you all sitting comfortybubble twosquare on your botty? Then I'll begin

I don't normally ask things like this (being a self-confessed king of O/T
posts) but just this once I'm breaking an inviolable rule ...

... can we please please PLEASE drop this endless and inane Phil Collins
thread FOREVER?

I don't CARE who does or does not like Phil. I don't care who thinks he is
or is not a good drummer, a good singer, a good writer, a wife beater or an
ego freak. I don't friggin' care if he is or is not a card-carrying member
of the Nazi-Alien-Illuminatus Alliance for World Domination And Covert
Cow-napping, or even if he is personally responisble for the disappearance
of Jimmy Hoffa, odd socks and ballpoint pens everywhere.

Frankly I couldn't care less if walked nude down Broadway at rush hour with
a pie on his head.


* * *

>From: "David Smith" <>
>Subject: RE: Dig That Crazy Beat Man!

>I listened to Homegrown in the car today. Am I wrong for
>preferring Andy's original version of I'm The Man Who
>Murdered Love?

No you are not wrong for preferring it, that's your right. Although,
"objectively" speaking (shit, I'm turning into a libertarian!) if it was The
Better Version, Andy would have put it on WASP STAR, wouldn't he? :P

* * *

>From: "Michael Versaci" <>
>Subject: Advice From Kinks Fans, Please

>I have been enjoying (beyond my own expectations) ...

You must have funny expectations, Mike! :P What's not to like?

>... some of the mid-sixties Kinks records.  I find their lack of >polish
>less and less of an issue as the songs grow on me, almost part >of their
>charm, so to speak.

Actually, there is a little bit of polish on some of those records. Ray's
first wife sang backup on a couple of things including Waterloo Sunset.
She's from poland, I believe. :P

>I have "Muswell Hillbillies," "The Kinks Are The Village Green
> >Preservation Society," "Face to Face" and a CD-R of "The Kinks - >Great &
>Lost."  I also remember once really liking "Misfits" (which I >think is
>mid-seventies) although I no longer have >access to that one.

All the early Pye albums are worth having, because there are some great
little gems -- like the delirious cod-calypso of "I'm On An Island" --
hidden amongst the R&B covers and proto-grunge. You MUST get "Something
Else" (1966) which is utterly, utterly fabulous, daaaahlings, perhaps their
best LP besides VGPS.

Also look out for the old Castle 'Ultimate Collection' comp that Elvis
mentions in his list, which is jam-hot and has all the essential singles,
and EP tracks like Dead End Street and Dedicated Follower.

LOLA (the album) is also pretty fine. ARTHUR is must-have. Some GREAT songs
on that one.

* * *

>From: Rodney E Griffith
>Subject: Clear Waters

>The reputation of Roger Waters' ego has, I think, been confused with
>the inflatable pig.

Indeed? Actually, the inflatable pig blew away, caused a brief bit of bother
but soon deflated. Roger's ego, however, continues to puff up and create an
unsightly public nuisance.

>A lot of people seem to buy it, no doubt encouraged by the bad blood >when
>Waters called it quits, but that seems to be a pretty childish >resentment
>that doesn't quite hold when listening to his recent live >album: his
>post-_Wall_ songwriting holds up with a surprisingly >intimate quality.

Can't speak to most of that, since I've never heard any of his post-Wall
work and don't intend to, but I think any resentment on the part of fans
and/or the band is due to the FACT that:

(A) Roger is a rampant egomaniac control freak

(B) he treated his "friends" like shit

(C) he particularly, indisputably and quite undeservedly treated Rick Wright
like a dog


(D) he cut the other guys off and hasn't spoken to them in years.

Who's being more childish?

>Waters' most famous project was a *repudiation* of stadium rock.

The Wall was IMO:

(A) a massive Waters ego trip

(B) boring and redundant because he'd said it all before -- and said it
better -- with DSOTM and ANIMALS

(C) a(n) hypocritical musical tantrum.

How does exactly does one "repudiate" stadium rock when one is staging the
biggest and most elaborate stadium show ever mounted? Hmmm? And I don't
think Roger was being ironic with THE WALL. Irony requires a certain degree
of self-deprecation, which I don't think Roger would have the slightest
ability to encompass.

>This was courageous at a time when stadium "rock" had a stranglehold on
>America. It wasn't as clear as punk's refusal of the mob that
>bullied their way into rock, but Waters did his bit while others
>drunkenly went through the motions.

Which others? The rest of Floyd? That's a pretty wild assertion. I'd love to
know when and where they were "drunkenly going through the motions"? Dates?
Places? I wonder what Dave Gilmour would say to that? Rather an uncalled-for
slur on their professionalism, old son.

And to cap it off, Roger supports fox-hunting. Need I say more?

Tally ho! (woof woof neigh gallop rip tear howl shred gore kill). Jolly good
show, old man!



Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:17:04 -0800 (PST)
From: John Relph <>
Subject: Best of 2001, slight return
Message-ID: <>


Due to poor record keeping, I discovered I totally forgot one of my
favourites of 2001.  That would be Veda Hille's glorious album "Field
Study".  Consisting mostly of commissioned pieces, it ranges from the
loud and wild "Evolver" to the quiet and reflective, though perhaps
cynical, "Tuktoyaktuk Hymn".  I played the amazing story of a
helicopter tour through the arctic Canadian wilds "One Inch of Lichen"
for a fiddler friend, and she said Veda Hille sounded like "Tori Amos
with talent".  Yeah.  Veda's got a great voice, plays amazing piano
and tenor guitar, and sounds almost nothing like XTC.  So there.

Check her out at "".

	-- John

When this set is used with other equipment, if the picture is not
stable or the buzz sound is heard, try to change the mutual position
of relevant equipment or take enough distance between them.


Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:24:07 EST
Subject: AP and Mike Keneally
Message-ID: <>

Hey Chalkers!

Mike Keneally has a new album out called "Wooden Smoke," which is much more
gentle than his previous albums, but still highly original and enjoyable.
Here is what Andy Partridge has to say about the album (quote provided by
Mike's manager Scott Chatfield)

"When critics use the word 'mature' to describe somebody's music, it's
usually code for 'old and boring.'  Well, I'm wresting the word back to apply
it in its proper sense to Mike Keneally's 'Wooden Smoke': this album is
strong, gentle and wise.  How many people do you know who can make a CD sound
hand-carved?  Beautiful."

I will second all of that and say that "Wooden Smoke" will probably be in
everyone's Top 10 Albums of 2002 when we post them here next year (OK,
technically it was available from the website in 2001, but...).

J. D.


Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:25:44 EST
Subject: Versaci/Kinks
Message-ID: <>

Michael Versaci asked "What other Kinks records should I be looking out for?"

May I suggest "Something Else" and "Arthur".  And, when you listen to
the song "Yes Sir" on Arthur you may notice an early appearance of the
Dukes of Stratosphear. I also suggest that if you get these albums you
should get the versions with extra songs.  These will include singles
from that era like the amazing "Autumn Almanac".

Tom G.


Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:00:19 -0000
From: "Richard Hall" <>
Subject: Rare XTC - non- flexi flexi.....
Message-ID: <012101c19f70$11086180$68e230d5@tinypc>

Hi all
    Far too rich for my blood, but one of you may want it....some other
goodies on the site.



XTC - Looking for Footprints

7" - UK - Flexipop. Hard vinyl White Label Test Pressing for flexi disc. You
see the flexis around but the test pressing on vinyl don't turn up! /EX -


Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:28:42 +0000
From: "Roger Blass" <>
Subject: Re: Best of 2001
Message-ID: <>

First some XTC content - is it true that there's a box set due out that
includes demos and other rarities?  I've heard so much about Fuzzy Warbles
without seeing anything that I've given up hoping to buy a big box of XTC
demos, especially older ones.

Here are my faves of 2001 or thereabouts:

Nick Lowe - The Convincer: Sweet, soulful follow-up to Dig My Mood.
Relaxed, sincere tone fits the old wiseass just fine.

Young Fresh Fellows/Minus Five - Because We Hate You...: Touches on many
styles of pop I love - the pure, punk, garage, new wave, psych, and
bubblegum varieties.

Bigger Lovers - How I Learned to Stop Worrying: A survey of the "Big B's" of
pop with some Only Ones thrown in.

Sugarplastic - Resin: They don't have the lyrics, but they have the odd pop
tunes of the earlier vintage of XTC that I love.

Oh Brother Where Art Thou - soundtrack: I'm not a rural blues/folk/country
fan by any means, but this whets my appetite for some more of certain
artists I didn't know before.

Sam Phillips - Fan Dance: A little laid back for an entire sitting (and no
Colin on bass) but an intelligent, personal collection of songs that work in
small doses.

Nixon's Head - Take It, The Anderson Council - Coloursound: Two fun albums
that satisfy my pure '60s side.  The former is more garage/new wave, and the
latter is faux-psychedelic pop.

Beulah - The Coast is Never Clear: Just picked this up, and it's still
soaking in.  So far I'd call it a richer Apples in Stereo.  They seem to
have more tricks up their sleeve.

Roger Blass


Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:48:38 +0000
From: Mark Fisher <>
Subject: Cupboards press release
Message-ID: <>

Here's a press release from Virgin Records.

A Coat Of Many Cupboards'
4 CD boxset
Virgin Records
Released February 25th

Virgin Records are proud to announce the release of 'A Coat of Many
Cupboards' - a very special 4 CD box set from classic British pop band XTC.

Following on from the huge success of the remastered XTC albums in 2001,
this specially designed 4 CD Long Box offers fans a wealth of previously
untapped musical gems - in fact the box itself is fitted with additional
internal flaps to create the feeling of an impending voyage of discovery.

Put together with the help of Andy Partridge and Colin Moulding, 'A Coat Of
Many Cupboards' features 60 tracks spanning XTC's entire output for Virgin
Records. There are demo versions of most of their singles, a selection of
Andy & Colin's favourite tracks with stories about each track in the
booklet, rarities/unreleased tracks and a selection of previously unheard
live tracks from performances around the world.

A fully illustrated 60 page booklet with a specially commissioned essay by
Harrison Sherwood (XTC aficionado and lifelong fan) rounds off what is their
most comprehensive career retrospective package. The perfect companion to
'Fossil Fuels'.

XTC hailed from Swindon to cultivate a legacy of highly original British pop
born from their early punk/new wave roots in the late 70s. Their angular yet
melodic songs, lead by distinctive jagged riffs boasted the catchiest of pop
sensibilities which was then injected with an edginess by the darker
overtones of astute and often political lyrics.  Throughout their career,
from the jerky earlier sound to the lushly arranged meticulous pop of their
later albums, each new project marked a progression which spawned classic
hits such as 'Making Plans for Nigel', 'Senses Working Overtime', 'Generals
and Majors', and 'Mayor of Simpleton'.



Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:34:36 -0500
From: Ben Gott <>
Subject: Hey, B-52's!
Message-ID: <>


I'm groovin' to the new Rhino Records B-52's compilation, "Nude on the
Moon."  Sure, there's a lot of stuff we've heard before, but it's all
digitally remastered, and there are some great liner notes.  Oh, yeah.

Ricky Wilson was a really interesting guitarist -- kind of in that
jangle-pop mode, but not really.  I especially like his playing on "There's
a Moon in the Sky (Called the Moon)," which has a punk-like energy while
also being really clean and crisp.  Anyone else a fan?



Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:08:42 EST
Subject: A brief history of poop
Message-ID: <>

Hi Chalkies

As a (fairly) long-standing list reader (if not contributor) I would like to
write something long and (hopefully) untedious about stuff as read on the
"list" over the last few weeks/months/etc.
First of all I would appreciate it if you would kindly stop making up band
names and album titles which are clearly fictitious...  Everyone knows that
the best album (and indeed show) of 2001 belonged to Rob Zombie.   So its not
exactly original - who cares?  Its fun and it rocks.
Secondly Phil Collins... what?  It is indeed true that he has featured on
some of my favourite stuff of all time (Follow You Follow Me is one of my
favourite songs EVER), however his street cred went west some time ago now,
round about the time that (a) he divorced his wife by fax (what a charmer)
and (b) his albums became dulllll.  (dont bother with anything after 1985),
Thirdly.... the Police..... reading bits on here prompted me to rediscover my
old Police vinyl collection, and it is SO much better than Sting's solo work,
in fact I would recommend any of their original LP's (with the exception of
Ghost in the Machine).
I guess I should mention XTC..  I got into them in 1979 circa "Nigel", I will
go out on a "limb" and say I don't like EVERYTHING they've ever done, but
Fossil Fuel (both discs) get a regular airing in this house/car/office, which
is good enough for me.  Oh go on then, if I had to pick a "best CD" of the
others it would be either Black Sea or English Settlement.  AND I liked Wasp
Star so much better than AV vol 1, AV didn't quite do it for me at all, maybe
its the Rob Zombie thing confusing my brain.
Thats it for now, I look forward to many more made-up band names on the list.

Jamie Crampton
age 39 3/4


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