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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 8, Number 18

                   Friday, 8 March 2002

Topics:

                     Recommended CD's
               Re: I Feel Like a Jellyfish
                Andy songwritealike alert
               Re: misleading box set info
                  Re: Testemonial Winner
             RE: Talking of flying pigs . . .
                    Pre-ordering COMC
                 Foreign language and XTC
               Coat of Many Pounds Sterling
              Pre-Ordered Copy of Boxed Set
                       Best of 2001
                         Box Sets
                  gorgeous gallic groove
           Through The Hill and Miniatures, too
                      Kate Bush/XTC
                     Turns of events?
                  instrumental AV v.1&2

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:28:46 EST
From: BobB22@aol.com
Subject: Recommended CD's
Message-ID: <93.18fbda75.29b249ae@aol.com>

Hi all, just thought I would fill you in on a few CD's I am currently
spinning.......

1. Spocks Beard - V
2. TransAtlantic - Bridge Across Forever
3. Flower Kings- Flower Power

This is Progressive Rock at it's best........but XTC will always be number
1........Cheers all.......Bob Bianco living 3 miles from Indian Point Nuclear
Plant..Let the music keep me going............: ) :(

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 11:59:36 -0600
From: steve <steveschiavo@mac.com>
Subject: Re: I Feel Like a Jellyfish
Message-ID: <427C3648-2E07-11D6-9A61-0050E445D419@mac.com>

On Saturday, March 2, 2002, at 01:22  AM, jimsmart1@yahoo.com wrote:

> What new Jellyfish record? I thought they were toast.

Check out the site below for the upcoming 4 CD Jellyfish rarities box,
FAN CLUB, plus a ton of other great powerpop stuff.  The Jellyfish is a
limited edition, so don't wait to get your order in.

http://www.notlame.com/

- Steve

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Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 14:18:06 -0500
From: Frank Agnello <agnello@si.rr.com>
Subject: Andy songwritealike alert
Message-ID: <B8A68F9E.58A8%agnello@si.rr.com>

Hello Chalksters:

Just a note to say that a nice homage to Andy's songwriting can be found on
the latest (wonderful) CD by The Bears, Car Caught Fire.  Track 10 is
drummer Chris Arduser's "Safe in Hell"; and it's a terrific nod to
Mummer/English Settlement-era Andy.  The main refrain sounds least
Andy-like, but every other section of the song is a dead ringer, in melody,
chord changes, and instrumentation.  I had the pleasure of seeing the Bears
perform last Sunday night at the Mercury Lounge in NYC, and their show was a
stunner; with jaw-dropping guitaristics from Messrs Belew and Fetters, and
catchy, melodic songwriting throughout; not to mention a gleefully sinister
cover of King Crimson's "Red."  The new CD is highly recommended, IMHO, and
can be gotten by mail order only on the Bears' Web site:
http.www.bearsmusic.com

Cheers,

Frank

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 11:42:26 -0800 (PST)
From: John Relph <relph@mando.engr.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: misleading box set info
Message-ID: <10203021142.ZM540309@mando.engr.sgi.com>

On Mon, 25 Feb, riserius1@netscape.net (Chris Wisniewski) kvetched:
>
>Elizabeth Setler <elizabeth@fringehead.com> wrote:
>>- 41 tracks (70% of the contents of the box set) have never been
>>released before in any form
>
>This should be reworded, perhaps, to read "...in any format",meaning
>cd,lp,cassette. I personally only found 11 tracks that I do not have
>in my collection "in any form" i.e. live, studio, demo. Actually, I do
>have them in demo, but I got them off Morpheus so they don't count as
>an "Official Release". Saying that these tracks have never been
>released in any form is misleading and at worst, disingenuous.

I disagree, but while I disagree, I will agree it is a matter of
interpretation.  Yes, 30 or so of those 41 tracks have been released
in some form.  For example, "Yacht Dance" was previously released on
"English Settlement".  However, and this is where I disagree, *this
version* of "Yacht Dance", a live version recorded on "Ye Olde Greye
Whistle Teste" in 1982, has never been released.

These particular versions of these 41 songs, whether they be live
recordings, home demos, unused single recordings, album outtakes, or
whatever, have never been released to the public.  Yes, some of them
are available on bootlegs, many of them have been traded on
nth-generation cassettes or CDRs, or been made available as MP3s on
Napster and the like.  But my hope is that the quality of the
recordings on "Coat of Many Cupboards" will be superior to any of
those previously available versions.  And it is my belief that many of
these specific recordings have never been available in any form.

One thing I am looking forward to is having some of these recordings
on CD, even though they were previously released on singles or
compilations.  For example, the "XTC Home Demos" from the B-side of
"The Meeting Place" 12-incher, the live "Traffic Light Rock" from the
"Record Mirror" promo single, etc.  I am a little disappointed that
the B-sides from the "Farmboy's Wages" single are not included, but
hey, so it goes.

So, as Bugs Bunny says, "Unlax, Doc."

	-- John

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:16:34 -0000
From: "David Smith" <David.Smith50@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Testemonial Winner
Message-ID: <000201c1c228$d8f50060$e664ff3e@oemcomputer>

Hey Chalkdudes and Chalkduds

Enjoying muchly the thread on alternative tracks for a Testimonial
Dinner.  Anyone mind if I chip in with the one I would love to hear -
but, sadly, never will):

I Can't Own Her sung by Jeff Buckley.

Crying already

There are holes in the sky
Where the rain comes in
They're not very big
That's why rain is thin
(RIP Spike)

Smudge Boy

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:48:24 -0000
From: "David Smith" <David.Smith50@virgin.net>
Subject: RE: Talking of flying pigs . . .
Message-ID: <LPBBJEPFIGBHBJHFDMILEEHOCFAA.David.Smith50@virgin.net>

Referring to the "never knowingly undersold" advert for the next UK
Chalkhills shindig:

> "There's going to be a lot happening including guest appearances
> from: Andy
> Partridge Colin Moulding Dave Gregory and special guest (all the way from
> Australia) Terry Chambers With live music from a re-formed XTC premiering
> new material written for their forthcoming 2004 album and world tour."

Paul Culnane added:

> Are you gonna borrow Pink Floyd's giant inflatable pig to fly over your
> fantasy event?  :-)

Well, funny you should say that Paul . . . I just got off the phone with
Rick Wright and, APPARENTLY, he and Dave Gilmour aren't using it that
weekend . . . or the articulated lorry it comes in . . .

All we need now Mariah Carey to provide the hot air to inflate it and we
can tether it to Pavarotti to stop it flying away.

Smudge "The Last Balloon" Boy

Now playing: Chet Atkins, Read My Licks
Now drinking: Asahi beer

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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 09:19:03 -0500
From: Dominic <squeeze@videotron.ca>
Subject: Pre-ordering COMC
Message-ID: <3C8230D6.79F0A504@videotron.ca>

Hey !

It seems we can now pre-order "Coat Of Many Cupboards" in the boutique.
However, I find it strange that my credit card is charged RIGHT now
considering the cds will be shipped at the end of March...Is this normal
procedure ? I buy a lot of cds over the Net and everytime I pre-order
stuff, my credit card is ONLY being charged on shipment day...Anyone ?

Dominic
Montreal

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 15:49:29 +0100
From: "Emmanuel Marin" <Emmanuel.Marin@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Foreign language and XTC
Message-ID: <004901c1c2c2$9fac55c0$361dfbc1@em>

> Si mon Cher!
> Not a sentence, but at least a french word:
> ''Vichyssoise'', in ''Knights in shining Karma''!

Well there's also "Disque Bleu", which makes a total
of three French words so far, but not yet a single sentence
a la "Michelle"...

PS : From what I gather from interviews of the French band,
Andy Partridge didn't answer the proposal of "L'Affaire Louis
Trio" to work with them, but Colin Moulding did (on "L'Homme
Aux Milles Vies").

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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 10:43:21 -0500
From: Ben Gott <bgott@rectoryschool.org>
Subject: Coat of Many Pounds Sterling
Message-ID: <B8A7AEC8.6163%bgott@rectoryschool.org>

Relphster and the Goobernauts,

I just ordered my autographed version of "A Coat of Many Cupboards" from the
Idea Records website.  The total cost was #39.13 which, according to the
Universal Currency Converter, works out to approximately $55.52 U.S.
dollars.  The price for "Coat..." on Amazon.com is $56.98, without shipping.
Therefore, it looks as if it's a bit of a better deal for those of us on the
wrong side of the pond to order from the XTC site: not only do we save a few
bucks, but we get autographs thrown in, too!

Speaking of ordering new music through the web, Bob Mould's new album,
"Modulate," is available through the Granary Music website:

[ http://www.GranaryMusic.com/store ]

I haven't heard anything at all about it, but I'm anxious anyway.  (Did you
know that Bob took a stint as a writer for the WWF?)  "I Hate Alternative
Rock" (off of "Bob Mould") is a great song.

Waiting for someone to push the damn pedals on the season cycle,
-Ben

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 15:27:07 -0500
From: "Molly, the New Wave Queen" <mollyfa0000@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Pre-Ordered Copy of Boxed Set
Message-ID: <000901c1c2f1$ce727900$3d01590c@vogmudet>
Organization: AT&T Worldnet

I just got a message from Idea Records XTC site saying that you can
pre-order an autographed copy of, "A Coat of Many Colours".  I just ordered
it, and it's actually a little cheaper than the Amazon.com's rate.  Just go
to http://www.xtcidearecords.co.uk, and go to the Boutique portion to check
out the details.

Molly
AIM: SPIRITTALKTALK
E-Mail: mollyfa0000@worldnet.att.net
Webpage: http://mollyfanton.topcities.com
Song of the Moment: "Sea of No Cares" - Great Big Sea

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:40:43 -0800
From: "Craig Vreeken" <vreeken@citlink.net>
Subject: Best of 2001
Message-ID: <NBBBKECCDCIDMJNEPBMGEEKACCAA.vreeken@citlink.net>

XTC spotting - My wife and I were in Naturewood, and upscale furniture store
in Sacramento, when over the music the strains of "Mayor of Simpleton" could
be heard.  We began jumping up and down with joy on the expensive furniture.

A little late, but here is my best of 2001.  I had to buy and listen to a
number of previous recommendations before I could finalize my list.  I
regret that I could not add any Mike Keneally to my list.  Wooden Smoke is a
2002 release, and Dancing is a 2000 release, but I have been listening to
both of these a lot lately.  What a talent!  Thanks to the listers who
recommended him.  I am a big Zappa fan and he really fills that void.
Here's my choices for 2001:

RECORDS
  1.. Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun
  2.. Midnight Oil - The Real Thing
  3.. Ben Folds - Rockin' The Suburbs
  4.. Bob Marley & The Wailers - Exodus (Deluxe Edition)
  5.. Afro Celt Sound System - Vol 3 Further in Time
  6.. Joe Strummer - Global A Go Go
  7.. McCoy Tyner - Plays Coltrane
  8.. Death Cab For Cutie - The Photo Album
  9.. Pernice Bros - World Won't End
  10.. Sloan - Pretty Together
Honorable Mention: The Bevis Frond - Valedictory Songs; Mother Hips-Green
Hills of Earth; Air-10KHz Legend; Love-Forever Changes (remaster); David
Byrne-Look Into The Eyeball; Yazbek-Damascus; Necessity-The Four Track
Years - Jason Faulkner

 2001 Concerts

  1.. U2 (Sacramento, CA)
  2.. U2 (Oakland, CA)
  3.. Midnight Oil (Portland, OR)
  4.. WOMAD (Seattle, WA)
  5.. Roxy Music (Concord, CA)
  6.. Richard Thompson (Sacramento, CA)
  7.. Matthew Sweet (San Francisco, CA)
  8.. Earth Wind & Fire (Sacramento, CA)
  9.. Smoky Robinson (Sacramento, CA)
  10.. The Guess Who/Joe Cocker (Sacramento, CA)
  11.. Yes w/orchestra (Concord, CA)
  12.. McCoy Tyner (Oakland, CA)
  13.. Todd Rundgren (San Francisco, CA)
  14.. Mingus Big Band (Davis, CA)
  15.. Frank Black & The Catholics (Sacramento, CA)
  16.. Afro-Cuban All Stars (Davis, CA)
More lists, concert reviews, etc. can be found on my website.

Craig Vreeken

http://www.citlink.net/~javalee/

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:17:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Aaron Pastula <pastula12@yahoo.com>
Subject: Box Sets
Message-ID: <20020305021709.25202.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings...

With response to the following:

>>Warren.Butson@getty-images.com writes
>>Is anyone confused at the inclusion of some
>>completely normal versions
>>on the new "coat of..." release?
>I can't work out why they should be there. Anyone fan
>enough to buy a
>4 cd set of out-takes has surely got these already.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most box sets
mainly just repackagings of album tracks anyway, with
a few odd live recordings or perhaps one or two new
tracks thrown in?  I'll admit I don't buy them often
(if at all), but it seems to me that they usually
consist of stuff that a completist would have already.
 At least, most of the ones I've considered buying
always seem to be that way.  I seem to remember
reading somewhere that CoMC would be a mixture of
demos, outtakes, live tracks AND a few of Andy and
Colin's favorite XTC songs, I'm presuming with some
kind of accompanying verbiage to explain their reasons
why, their fondness for such-and-such, anecdotes, etc.

That said, I think CoMC is going to be pretty
introspective, at least I'm assuming it will be. (is
anything they do ever *not* so?)  I'm looking forward
to getting it, if for no other reason than I'm a
complete sucker for packaging.  I mean, the word
"booklet" just makes me gooey.

Of course, Fuzzy Warbles is going to be the real
prize...what better way to reaffirm the brilliance of
this band then to listen to a complilation of the
tracks that *didn't* make the cut?  Yikes.  When's
that coming out again?!

Aaron.

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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 14:24:17 +1100
From: SEBASTIEN MAURY 02 9950 3315 <maury.sebastien@abc.net.au>
Subject: gorgeous gallic groove
Message-ID: <200203051934.g25JYGI08239@nucgfw01.abc.net.au>

Hi faux oops folks,
Lest anyone take Dunks' swipe at French unrockability too seriously, I
thought I should defend my countrypeople's honour and suggest that the
French are leading the new (mainly commercial) wave of dance electronica
and have been for some time now!

Names for your consideration from the last 5 years or so (I apologise for
omissions, these are from personal sampling experience only, and therefore
can only scratch the surface):

Cassius, Daft Punk, Air, Modjo, MC Solaar, Dimitri From Paris, Superman
Lovers, Stardust, Rinocerose, Alex Gopher, Thomas Bangalter, Etienne De
Crecy, St Germain (AKA Ludovic Navarre), Bob Sinclair, Alan Braxe, Les
Rythmes Digitales, Troublemakers.

Some of these undoubtedly rock. Some funk. Some even groove (believe it or
not...I'm walkin' on air...). It's not all brilliant, but tucked among the
folds is some music I would prefer not to live without (Gopher,
Troublemakers, Solaar).

So there!

Cheers,
Seb

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:56:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com>
Subject: Through The Hill and Miniatures, too
Message-ID: <20020306045640.23632.qmail@web14201.mail.yahoo.com>

Wayside Music
http://www.waysidemusic.com/
sells progressive and experimental-type cd's. They
have copies of the Andy Partridge/Harold Budd cd
Through The Hill for $9.00.  To find it, go to their
website and click  on 'Special Sale Items".

Wayide music also has copies of the Miniatures cd for $6.00.
This is a compilation of very short tracks by a lot of
interesting people, and includes Andy's The History of
Rock & Roll.

I don't work for Wayside Music, just passing along the info.

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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:34:33 -0800 (PST)
From: DANIEL B <alteration_x10@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kate Bush/XTC
Message-ID: <20020306173433.64029.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com>

I have always pictured Kate singing alot of parts in
In Loving Memory Of A Name

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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:24:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Ira Lieman <ilieman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Turns of events?
Message-ID: <20020308142401.49082.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com>

Chalkfolk,

This was reported this morning (3/8) off the AP wire:
No major xtc content, but I *DID* take a doubletake at where this was
located.

March 8, 2002
EMI to Close CD Manufacturing Plant
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

LONDON (AP) -- EMI Group PLC will close its compact disc manufacturing plant
in southern England and transfer production to its other European operation
in the Netherlands, the recording giant said Friday.

The company said the closure of the plant in Swindon, which employs 192
people, was due to ``overcapacity in the CD manufacturing industry'' and
would lead to substantial cost savings.

(yadda yadda yadda)

-ira, earning enough for us.

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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:16:50 -0500
From: "Ted Harms" <tmharms@library.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: instrumental AV v.1&2
Message-ID: <NDBBKGMDOKBCFDLBMPGOCEGHDEAA.tmharms@library.uwaterloo.ca>

So, are the instrumental AV releases totally unchanged from the previous
release except that the vocals have been removed?  Is there a guitar, bass
or saxamaphone 'covering' the vocal line or some level of sonic tweaking or
re-arranging?

Ted Harms | Library, Univ. of Waterloo | tmharms@uwaterloo.ca
"I don't use the accident, because I deny the accident."  Jackson Pollock

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