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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 7, Number 53

                Saturday, 13 October 2001


                     Whoopsie Daisy!
               <snappy subject title here>
Re: If I can't change your mind then no one will... (non-XTC content)
                     Nah, still sucks
          I never promised you a rose garden ...
                       Rupert Hine
   We'll be right back after this important message...
                    cd trading club??
                  Re Suzanne & Grant Lee
              making your own trainspotting
                    Scared to "Dance"
                     On My Feet Again
     'Tis the season to be Mummer (fa-la-la-la-etc..)


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Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 22:11:58 -0500
From: "Amanda Owens" <>
Subject: Whoopsie Daisy!
Message-ID: <>

*Sigh* Vicks Formula 44M is very good....mixes well with a nice cup of tea
*ACHOO* *sniffle* Well, at least I get to call in sick to work Monday and
stay at home with me recovering-from-surgery daddy!

Anyhoo.....Steve did sayeth:

>In #7-51 Amanda Owens quoth:
> > Styx-"Stand or Fall" <
>Styx?? Surely those lyrics are from a Fixx track??

*Slaps head in annoyance* Yes, Andre did indeed point out that I screwed up
the band. Funny, I distinctly remember telling myself "Don't forget, it's
FIXX, not STYX." Must've been a crack day for me.

On another note, I printed out the "Terrorism" lyrics and made copies for
everyone at my office to hang up outside their cubicles. None of them know
who XTC is, but they thought it was brilliant nonetheless.

Tis all for now,
Amanda C. Owens
"Well if you're going to have delusions you may as well go for the really
satisfying ones."-Marcus Cole
XTC song of the day-"Terrorism"
non XTC song-"Rainforest"-Mike Hardcastle


Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 21:16:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Eby <>
Subject: <snappy subject title here>
Message-ID: <>

I was just listening to my favorite side-project this
week and thought I'd mention the greatly under-rated
MR. Bungle (Faith No More) -Perfectly demented music.
I highly recommend their last one "California".
"Disco Volante" is the album to get last and their
first one has a couple of the most obscene songs ever
recorded on it and you might be scared away.
Primus-Les Claypool and the holy Mackeral
Dar Williams & co.-Cry Cry Cry
The Breeders-Amps

I should say that I think of The Dukes as being more
of a concept band than a side project, like Ziggy
Stardust to Bowie.  The people are the same only the
names have changed.  Otherwise the Dukes would reign
supreme in side-project rankdom.

In another post

<<I quite like the two albums he did with
his band, Grant Lee Buffalo, but "Mobilize" just blows
them ("Copperopolis" and "Jubilee") out of the water.
His voice has never sounded so good, and the songs are
sweet, well-written, and, in a few cases, a joy to

My friend, you've been living in a cloud.  Go out and
find Grant Lee Buffalo's FIRST album "Mighty Joe Moon"
NOW!  I have not heard "Mobilize" yet but I find it
hard to believe it could be as good as this brilliant
album.  Most of the songs Grant Lee performs as the
street troubador on the TV show "The Gilmore Girls"
(yes, the same show XTC music has been featured in)
are from this one.


Former heavyweight boxing champ Muhammad Ali visited the ruins of the
World Trade Center on Thursday. When reporters asked how he felt about
the suspects sharing his Islamic faith, Ali responded pleasantly, "How
do you feel about Hitler sharing yours?"


Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 08:26:25 -0400
From: "Brian" <>
Subject: Re: If I can't change your mind then no one will... (non-XTC
Message-ID: <00eb01c14f2b$488ef140$d911193f@brian>


> Obligatory XTC content: Here Comes President Kill Again...

Yeah, that's real funny.
Where's the song "Here Comes (Afghani) Resident Kill Again..."?

-Brian Matthews


Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 14:39:36 +0300
From: mstone <>
Subject: Nah, still sucks
Message-ID: <>

hey Chalkland.

>>XTC content, have you listened to "War Dance " written by Colin
Moulding lately?<<

I recall lots of negativity towards this song during past discussions on
this list... and I hope we all have a deeper appreciation of it now.>

Nope.  No turn of world events will ever change the fact that it's a
crap, lifeless song.

A side project of sorts.  Tony Banks' solo album form 1979, A Curious
Feeling.  Better than most of what Genesis were doing around that
time.  it's kind of a concept album, has a sad, melancholy tone
throughout.  Beautiful melodies abounding.



Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 00:41:57
From: "Duncan Kimball" <>
Subject: I never promised you a rose garden ...
Message-ID: <>

Welcome back Chalkhills! I thought we were losing you ...

[Rampart, she's gone into arrest! 10ccs of adrenaline, intracardial - STAT!

She's defibrillating ... charging ....CLEAR!!



... beep ... beep ... beep ... beep ... beep ...

PHEW! that was close.]

Sept. 11 ...
Having been mauled within an inch of my life on the Kinks list I'm not going
to go there (well, not without provocation) other than to offer sincere
comiserations and condolences to all affected by this, and to say how
impressed I have been by the quiet courage of thos dealing with the dreadful
task of cleaning up, and indeed with the restraint being  displayed by
whoever is pulling Dubya's strings. On Wed. 12 I was expecting This World
Over, but I'm starting to relax ... a little.

Besides that ... a fair old shit of a time, to be honest. Over the last few
weeks we in Oz have lost many leading lights of our local music/cultural
scene. The great Graeme "Shirley" Strachan, former lead singer of Skyhooks,
latterday TV/radio personality and all-round good guy, was killed in a
'copter crash. Beloved 70s rocker, singer and songwriter Ted Mulry (leader
of TMG, whose 70s hit "Jump In My Car" was covered by the illustrious Chris
Spedding) died of cancer only days later. Overshadowed by the events of
Sept. 11, the equally beloved poet, raconteur, Dylanologist and ratbag and
all-round hip[ indentity Adrian Rawlins passed away, also from cancer.

On a more personal note, Yvonne Kennedy, who was a longtime friend of my
mum's, was killed in the Pentagon attack, which is still kind of hard to
believe. She was travlling in America to celebrate her retirement from the
Red Cross :( ... A friend at work just lost her partner to a stroke, and
another longtime work colleague and friend just lost his 25yo daughter, who
had just qualified as a doctor, to pancreatic cancer. "And I think to
myself, what a wonderful woooild" ...


On a happier note, I was pleased to drop in on fellow Chalker Brian Last
(who loaned me some nifty XTC vids) and I gotts say: this boy can REALLY
sing. Brian played me some of his home recordings, and I'll tell you now, if
anyone is planning another Chalkhills Children -- you'd better talk to this
chap. He can really cut the mustard. Most impressive.

XTC related news? Jesus, nothing really, although I did have a dream
recently about visiting Terry and playing bass with him. In a moment of
weakness, Monsieur Culnane, who actually DID visit him not long back,
revealed that our Tezza's personal fave XTC performance is "Rocket In A
Bottle". :) Bloody GREAT song to play bass to. One day maybe ...

In other news I exhort all and sundry to seek out the new, fabulous,
wonderful, moving, funny, beautiful Ben Folds album "Rocking The Suburbs".
If proof be needed that there is life after Ben Folds Five, here be it.
10/10 and some of Ben's best songs yet. "Still Fighting It" and "Not The
Same" are KILLER.

Little else to say other than to reassure Michael Versaci that I haven't
forgotten him, and just to say hi to everyone and send love to you all and
all that kind of schmookie stuff you can't help thinking about when life
isn't going quite as well as you planned.

Funny thing is, I actually missed you all.

Pathetic isn't it?



Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 21:26:15 -0700
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Rupert Hine
Message-ID: <>

on 10/6/01 6:37 PM, someone wrote:
> I'm disappointed, I'm sad to say, by Suzanne Vega's newest, "Songs in Red
> and Gray."  The songs are great, and her music is as stellar as it's ever
> been, but the production SUCKS.  Who is this Rupert Hine fellow and what the
> hell was he listening to when he produced this?  Tears for Fears'
> "Elemental"?  There is an unbelievably annoying reverb on all of her vocals
> that just ruins, in my most humble opinion, whatever beauty might lie within
> the grooves.  Sad.  I know that we can't hope for a reunion with ex-husband
> Mitch Froom, but let's at least suggest someone like Jon Brion for her next
> outing!

Rupert Hine was a very popular producer in the 80's, best known for his work
with The Fixx, who Amanda mixed up with Styx in the previous digest, among
many others(a few tracks on Tina Turner's Private Dancer album come to mind,
I  know there were lots of others, but I'm drawing a blank now). He's done
very little lately that I can think of; I guess he needed a job, he was
available, and all Suzanne could afford. Maybe Mitch forgot to send the
child support check.
  I don't think Tears for Fears was one of the bands Hine produced though.


Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:30:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: We'll be right back after this important message...
Message-ID: <>

No XTC content, but a commercial for my work:

I am currently showing at two galleries in the greater
Chicago area:

I am one of 3 artists in the show 'New Talent' at
Crown Center Gallery at Loyola University Chicago.
that show runs Oct. 4-26. The gallery is located in
the Crown Center for the Arts on Loyola's campus,
Loyola Ave. at the lake.

I am also one of several artists in 'New Faces', at
DeCaprio Gallery at Moraine Valley Community College
in Palos Hills, IL. The show runs Oct. 2-31. Opening
reception this Thursday, Oct 11. This is a faculty
show (I teach at MVCC). There are more people involved
and its a smallish space, so I only have two pieces in
this show, but they're new works different from my
usual work.
The gallery is in the Fine and Performing Arts Center
atrium. The campus is at 88th ave and 111th st. in
Palos Hills.

And, as long as I have your attention, a couple of
upcoming shows:

Sheetz Gallery at Penn State Altoona is doing a solo
show of my work. Show dates are November 7 to Dec. 14.

Christopher Art Gallery at Prairie State College in
Chicago Heights,IL, is doing a show of work by faculty
at several area community colleges. that show runs
Dec. 7-Jan. 17.

Thanks for reading,

We now return to our regular programming.


Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:45:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Todd Gehman <>
Subject: cd trading club??
Message-ID: <>

hi all,

sorry my first posting in a coon's age has no interesting content, but i
wanted to contact the person setting up that cd-mix trading club.  could
you please mail me?  i seem to have lost the old chalkhills digest with
your solicitation, and i'm totally game for said pop-palmanship.  i'm
in seattle, and there's a preponderance o' pure pop coming out of la
ciudad del grunje.  i'd love to find out what's happening elsewhere...



Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:15:31 +1000
From: "Paul Haines" <>
Subject: Re Suzanne & Grant Lee
Message-ID: <00f501c1510f$e91c7480$e08bfea9@home>

Hey All,

I felt like I should jump to Rupert's defence (XTC are the kings in my hall
of champions, and Rupert is one of the grand knights) but then when Ben
didn't bother to mention the critically acclaimed Grant Lee Buffalo albums
'Fuzzy' and 'Mighty Joe Moon'  (as opposed to the
record-company-pressure-to-conform-to-american-mainstream-alternative of the
ones he did mention, especially 'Jubilee') I thought I wouldn't bother.

But I did. The Rupert Hine fansite (only saying good things of course) have
some Suzanne fans very happy indeed with what was made. But then, what would
you expect...

By the way, I don't know if this is evil, but I've downloaded about 100 XTC
demos from those places you're not supposed to. In the real world I've got
almost everything legally (ie I own them on cd, lp, ep, 45 etc) but I still
managed to find about 50 tracks I'd never heard of (ie not demos that made
it onto albums). Anyone got a definitive list?

1st post in over 4 years...

Paul Haines


Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:53:59 -1000
From: Jim Smart <>
Subject: making your own trainspotting
Message-ID: <a0433010ab7ea641046e8@[]>

Sometimes ya gotta make your own magic.

Lately I've taken over the job of deciding what music plays in the
bar between sets at my band's shows. Some of you will remember that I
am in a Beatle tribute band here in Hawaii called the Daytrippers
( The bars we play in put on the worst
imaginable shit between sets. So I've taken to burning my own CDs and
putting them on when we stop. First I made one of other sixties
groups from Britain, like the Kinks, Who, Zombies, etc. Then I made
one of solo Beatle stuff. My latest (and the XTC bit is coming,
really!) is a mix of 80s and 90s pop, things like the Clash, XTC,
Elvis Costello, XTC, Blur, XTC....well,you get the idea.

So it is with great pleasure that I describe the following scene: The
bar is full (between 50-100 people). The Daytrippers have just
finished their big bang ending of A Day in the Life. Just after one
Daytripper says, "thanks folks, don't go away, we'll be right back",
the PA gushes forth with the glorious opening riff to "Playground".

I like to think of it as a clandestine mission to force exposure to
XTC on the world.


PS My CD also including Sense Working Overtime, Mayor of Simpleton,
and my personal fave, Towers of London. Is it just me, or does Towers
of London carry shades of "Listen to What the Man Says" by Wings?


Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:39:44 -0400
From: "Scott Barnard" <>
Subject: Scared to "Dance"
Message-ID: <>

> >XTC content,  have you listened to "War Dance " written by Colin Moulding
>I recall lots of negativity towards this song during past discussions on
>this list... and I hope we all have a deeper appreciation of it now.>

Nope. Still blows.

>Now that's a new one. 'Party-punk' seems a little unfair on Scotland's
>premier punk band ;)>

I don't recall anyone mentioning the Skids. ;)


Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:12:53 +0000
From: "Ralph Simpson DeMarco" <>
Subject: On My Feet Again
Message-ID: <>

Dear Affiliated Members:

Finally bought Martin Newell's Greatest Living Englishman....Fantasic album.
If any of you out there like XTC and don't have it.... drop what you are
doing and order it. You won't be sorry.

Hmmm. Things here have really died down. After AVI and AVII came out, these
postings were much more frequent (where is everyone?) Ah well, as it 'twas
pointed out by Neville Farmer in Song Stories, Andy got the Cuban missle
crisis date wrong.... it did not take place in 1961 (that was the Bay of
Pigs invasion), the crisis took place in October 1962. But perhaps he meant
that the Bay of Pigs led to the Crisis... which it did.

Consumer Alert.
Anyone who shops at Barnes and Noble for CDs, I bought a copy of White Music
back in Feb (a title that they always had in stock) and there was major
skipping on the second song. Anyway, they have not been able to get me a new
copy after trying four times! They say the warehouse is out of stock and
they have to contact the publisher. Am I insane, or are they the worst
fucking company on earth? I am going to the store manager and demanding my
money back and they can go to hell. I am NEVER shopping for CDs there again.




Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:12:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: Brown <>
Subject: 'Tis the season to be Mummer (fa-la-la-la-etc..)
Message-ID: <>

Greetings, gentle ladies and men of Chalk-

Do you realize that it's nearly Mummer day again?
Time doth flyeth, and alleth that crapeth.. Thit! Thnow I thave thomething
thstuck to my thongue..

Aye, yes, it's hard to believe, I know, but on October 17th we will once
again honor the rare gift that is the album, Mummer.. Joy of Joys, most
beloved of all manufactured holidays.. *Mummer Day*.. more popular in the
bible belt than The Stones-Sticky Fingers Sunday Festival, and with more raw
spiritual meaning than Meatloaf's Bat Out Of Hell Week.. yesiree, you bet
yer bloomers!.. It's time to rally 'round The Mummer, my ginger snaps..

Anywho, *this* year's Mummer celebration looks like it is shaping up to be
the best ever.. well, ahem, it is only the *second* one ever, but still..

If Mayday 'loud but never noxious' O'Mahoney makes good on her promise to
provide enough wholesome nutritious Hostess snack cakes and pies for all of
the wandering Mummerites and free-lancing Episcopalians amongst us.. And if
Vee remembers to bring plenty of Mead and somma dat 'Damn! that's nasty!'
Bath Tub Elixir Of Life (cheaper to make than Brompton's cocktail, but with
just as much *kick*!).. And most importantly, if we all remember to spin
this strangely beautiful little gem of an album on the 17th.. well by all
the goddesses on Mt. Olympus, I just know it's going to be a resounding

Perhaps now more than ever we need a reason to be absurd, dear friends.. So
instead of wasting your hard earned cash on some meaningless gift for a
co-worker, invite them to join you, as I invite you to join me in
celebrating all that Does Not Suck In This World.. let's immerse ourselves
in the intoxicating aural wonder that is Mummer.. even if it is just for
this one day.. I can tell by the way that some of you are smiling,
especially that oddly dressed fellow in the third row, that you do share my

So what say ye, young lovers?  ..don't wait, start making your Mummer Day
plans today..

Rejoice, for the spirit of Mummer is upon us now!

Hugs to all,

Debora 'Delivering you from the elements since 1967' Brown

 May 'Louden Noxious' O'Mahoney


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