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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 7, Number 51

                Friday, 28 September 2001


            Re: Constant Beatling of the Brows
                  Truly a Reign of Blows
                       Say WHAT????
                     Side Show Terry
                  centre of the universe
                        Grow Fins!
                  Wasp Star - Mink Car?
                      side projects
                       Shared grief
                 Wanted 10 people to....
          Salute the Earl, but bow to the Dukes
                 ray wonder, brian wilson
                      nokia ringtone
                   welcome back, john!
                       Elusive Mole

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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 16:47:19 -0700
From: Pat <>
Subject: Re: Constant Beatling of the Brows
Message-ID: <>

 >"it's hard to think of too many other bands as creative as those two"
 >Ahem (and other throat clearing sounds). Might I suggest
 >consideration of the Kinks and their 30 albums?

Well, I can say I believe that the Kinks had many moments of brilliance
certainly. The soundtrack to the movie "Rushmore" is VERY Kinks-heavy and
Kinks-inspired and I love how their music really punctuated that film.

Pat (
"Peace and Love To Everyone, Especially Now"


Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:20:49 -0500
From: "Amanda Owens" <>
Subject: Truly a Reign of Blows
Message-ID: <>

Total non-XTC content

The world lost a piece of itself last week, one which I doubt we will ever
fully gain back. My heart aches for the families who lost loved ones, the
leaders who have had to make some of the most difficult choices of their
lives, and the members of the Islamic community who now find themselves the
targets of unwarranted hatred and prejudice.

"Is this the value of our existence?
Should we proclaim with such persistence?
Our destiny relies on conscience
Red or blue, what's the difference?"
Styx-"Stand or Fall"

Slight XTC content-Found a rock trivia game that features XTC and the Dukes
quite nicely. It's called Backstage Pass, and there's a clip of Dear God in
one of the questions.

Forever in XTC,
XTC song of the day-"This World Over"
non XTC song of the day-"Rainforest"-Mike Hardcastle


Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:58:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jon Rosenberger <>
Subject: Say WHAT????
Message-ID: <>

Angie mentioned recently....

Husker Du >> Sugar (not technically a side project, but definitely proof
that Bob Mould could top himself and do bigger and better things)


WHAT???? Are you high? I mean I am all for letting folks have there own
opinions on things but are you serious?

Husker Du is probably the best band to emerge from the United States in
the last 15 years with the only possible others being the Dead Kennedys
and The Replacements. And if anybody dares throw the Britney card I
swear I will hunt you down and slap you till you cry for mercy. And yes
I know tons of the rest of you will find flaws with my statement and
normally I respect your opinions but frankly I don't want to hear em at
the moment. Husker Du ROCK! HARD! .

Sugar was a much better than average band but lets face it it was still
Bob with two hired guns to back him up just as Nova Mob provided the
same platform for Grant Hart, but both bands only had one great
songwriter, Husker had 2, AND they didn't like each other, so like two
high school boys trying to impress the head cheerleader (bad analogy
given Bobs sexuality I know) they constantly over the course of a
decade tried to outdo one another both on record and on stage. The
Huskers are nothing short of astounding! To even suggest that Sugar
somehow eclipses the brilliance of Husker is just wrong. Just plain
wrong. Now go listen to "Diane" at maximum volume for an hour for your


PS: Bob high fived me at the end of a show once too. Yeah, I know I'm
cool. ;)

PPS: So John what is the skinny with the website can we all contribute
(I would at least) to buy some space somewhere to house it? Let me know
offline if you need a contribution.


Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:51:07 EDT
Subject: Side Show Terry
Message-ID: <>

In a message dated 9/21/01 2:23:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
<> writes:

> Fave side project bands, eh? Hmmm...
> I would definitely agree with the Dukes of
> Stratosphear (among my most favorite
> Partridge/Moulding material!)

My fav side project was Wings, er, wait, that was a side project wasn't it?
Seriously, While I like much of the Dukes album (and still think that
Vanishing Girl should have been the A side of the single not You're A Good
Man Albert Brown), Terry and The Lovemen has always been my fav Xtc side
project (they only recorded one song and a great one at that. I felt that the
Dukes joke went on a bit too long although, again, I like much more of the
second album than the first but that's just me).

The whole WTC attack is indeed horrible. I'm reminded of Andy's demo
Terrorism. I ended up driving back across the US like a lot of folks. It
allowed me much time to reflect on the state of the world and the many idiots
with guns (and planes) that live among us.

RIP Chalkhills--John you did a great service to the Xtc community. Thanks! It
was a pleasure to (briefly) meet you when Andy came to San Francisco many
moons ago. Hopefully Chalkhills will resurface in some form somewhere along
the line. It would be a pity for such a great fan site to disappear.

Currently in the CD player (not that it matters) absolutely nothing by XTC!
Scary, I know, but I've been listening to lots of other stuff including early
Elton John, the latest John Hiatt and the Buffalo Springfield Box Set. I
can't wait for Suzanne Vega's latest CD. Such trivial matters make the world
go round and make it a bit easier to deal with tragedy.


Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:48:25 -0600
From: "Joseph Easter" <>
Subject: centre of the universe
Message-ID: <00e401c14311$0e4e44c0$7bb3ea41@default>

Hi all, lurking from the center of the universe in Missoula, Montana. No
fluff this time around. Just observations.

Like all, I have strong emotions (and many thoughts) of the recent national
events. A reminder, this is no tragedy, this is an atrocity. I lost a
friend. I lost my cool. But I gained an appreciation and a pride about what
our national identity really is. As Jon Stewart put it very candidly last
night, "the dream realized." Where we are now judged not by the color of our
skin but the content of our character. Hold on this fact. Hold on to each
other. And hold on to the emotion of terror that this evil has created. Use
it. Let it let you relish every crumb that we take for granted.

I made a mix tape. A mix of mostly xtc, police and kevin gilbert tunes.
Strangely enough, the paranoia that riddled a great deal of that music from
the waning days of the cold war, rings painfully true now. I urge you to
revisit it. Particularly "Walking in your footsteps" by the police, "All
fall down," by K Gilbert and (say it isnt so) "This World Over" by the boys.

God bless. At least, somebody bless.

Almost Finally, around noon here in Missoula at the Farmers Market about
seven weeks ago, this kid was singing and picking Wounded Horse. Are you out
there? Send me a line...

My image...early morning last Tuesday, spic and span, eye boogers freshly
wiped away in formation at the Montana Law Enforcement Academy in Helena,
during color guard in our tiny precious ranks, my commander, with his
shriveled deformed arm, telling the squad of the attack. Tear in his eye,
Reserve Units surround me, powerless to heed any call, deaf to any cry,
3,000 miles away, looking 30 miles in any direction at any unidentified
speck peaking over the mountains, worried not for myself, but for the
preservation of this state, and this state of mind.

Goodbyehate, say hello to love...

Joseph Easter


Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:10:30 -0500
From: "vee tube" <>
Subject: Grow Fins!
Message-ID: <>

I just heard on NPR that FOSSILs have been found that FUEL
an aquatic theory wherein whales once roamed the land.

I'm sure you've seen the reports of ancient life on Earth
crawling out of a sea of soupy sales? Seems they were tired
of eating Plankton and decided a 'tossed salad' with Italian
dressing was in order.

Well, as you can imagine, it wasn't long after this they all
decided a double meat cheese burger with scalded potatoes and
a Coke would go down even better.

The whales were appalled to see their former sea mates attack the
dirt beasts (and friendly plants) and decided, "if we must eat
something, let it be the Plankton as they are the least amongst

This of course pissed off the Plankton no end but, even they had
to admit "we're pretty dumb, plentiful and, pre salted!"

And so the whales actually "grew fins" and walked back into the
ocean. They frolicked, body surfed, and freaked out the tourists
when they showed them exactly what a BLOW HOLE is for!

Ok, I made some of this stuff up but! I *did* hear that scientific
evidence suggests whales *may* have walked on dirt at one time.

For the record, Finoids prefer "fresh water Plankton".

XTC content: Ella Guru.



Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:37:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Eby <>
Subject: Wasp Star - Mink Car?
Message-ID: <>

So is it just coincidence that XTC fans They Might be
Giants' newest album title rhymes with and is almost
as annoying to pronounce as XTC's last album?

Speaking of which, it's a fantastic album.  It's true
I couldn't bring myself to listen to it the day it
came out(Sept. 11).    Something seemed wrong about
listening to such a happy album at such a sad time,
but once I did it really proved to be such a welcome

It would probably still be the only album in my CD
player if Tori Amos' newest album of song covers
hadn't come out this week.  It has some really good
covers on it.  Unfortunately it also includes possibly
the worst song I've ever heard her perform, a
horrendous version of "Happiness is a warm gun".

Still I couldn't help imagining Tori including an XTC
song.  My vote would be for "another sattelite", I
think she could really bring something interesting to
the song.



Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:02:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: side projects
Message-ID: <>

Pixies >> Breeders
R.E.M. >> Hindu Love Gods
Throwing Muses >> Belly
Janes Addiction >> Porno For Pyros
Husker Du >> Sugar

Here's a couple:

Los Lobos>> Los Super Seven

Los Lobos >> Latin Playboys

X >> The Knitters

The Silos >> The Setters

Talking Heads >> Tom Tom Club

U2 >>The Passengers (while not even close to their
best work, I like the Passengers cd better than

Jon Langford is king of side projects! His primary
band is the Mekons, but he also spends a lot of time
as one of the Waco Bros. In the '80's he was in The
Three Johns, and there are several other bands I'm

Of these, both Los Lobos spin offs are my favorites.


Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:39:42 -0500
From: David Lake <>
Subject: Shared grief
Message-ID: <>
Organization: Blushift Productions

No amount of words I could say could sum up the entire well of emotions
I have gone through in the past 10 days.  No political or relgious
statements are fitting here.  Only the issue of hate/non-hate.  Don't
spread hatred.  Period.  End-of-story.

In the another breath, my thoughts and well wishes are with those who
have been affected by this tragedy by any tangible amount, and also with
those who will be affected in days to come.

That being said, a small beam of light came into my evening last night
at the TGIFridays bar last night.  I heard 'Playground' over the
Musak-type system playing in there.  Brought a smile to my face and a
realization of how true some words can ring.  Then an even more moving
experience.  The two-hour tribute special on television that was
broadcast on every major network and cable channel.  What a monumental
effort and coming together!

OK, maybe one word comes to mind.  Pride.

Cheers to all overseas who have sent their well wishes for our country.



Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 09:43:07 -0500
From: "Jamie Lowe" <>
Subject: Wanted 10 people to....
Message-ID: <005b01c1443e$2465d880$7172393f@unlpm>

Dear Chalkholders,

I heard about a great way to hear new music on NPR the other day.  The
scheme is that twelve people agree to make a cdr compilation once a year and
send it to the others on the list.  Each and every month for eleven months
you get a new compilation.   Then once a year you have to make a compilation
and send it to the other 11 people on the list.

If you are interested in joining the cdr of the month club e-mail me off
list.  Currently, there are two of us, John Bartlett of Colchester, UK and
me in Chicago.   There are no rules to speak of other than we are all
interested in POP music, and you must have access to a cd burner, post
office, etc, etc.  The point is to enlighten, entertain, enjoy and explore
new music from a different perspective...

XTC content,  have you listened to "War Dance " written by Colin Moulding


Jamie Lowe


Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 12:31:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Anthony <>
Subject: Salute the Earl, but bow to the Dukes
Message-ID: <>

To the list of side-project and spin-off bands, I
would add Earl Vince & the Valiants -- which is how
Fleetwood Mac sometimes billed itself when its founder
and leader, Peter Green, sat out the middle set of
concerts circa 1969-'70 and prankish second guitarist
Jeremy Spencer would don the gold lame (la-MAY, in
case the acute accent didn't survive the journey from
my screen to yours) jumpsuit, step to the fore, and
lead the Messrs. Kirwan, Fleetwood, and McVie in
raunchy reworkings and parodies of early rock and roll

In 1969, Earl Vince & the Valiants recorded an
original composition, the blissfully ungrammatical
"Somebody's Gonna Get Their Head Kicked In Tonight,"
which was covered in joyous uptempo abandon by a
short-lived Scottish party-punk combo called the
Rezillos in the remarkably fecund 1977-'78 time frame
which also produced XTC.

Both versions of "Somebody" are available on CD: the
original on Vol. 1 of *The Immediate Singles
Collection* (Immediate/Sony Music Special Projects,
1991), and the cover on *Can't Stand the Rezillos: The
(Almost) Complete Rezillos* (Sire/Warner Bros., 1993).

I salute the Earl, but I bow to the Dukes.

Ryan Anthony

An independent Internet content provider


Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 05:56:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: "April Zappaterrini" <>
Subject: ray wonder, brian wilson
Message-ID: <18891.>


Sorry if this is a little off topic, but I was wondering if anyone on this
list has listened to Swedish band Ray Wonder. I heard one song of theirs on
Spinner internet radio, and I thought that it seemed to bear the influence
of XTC. Of course, I am saying this on the basis of one song, I haven't been
able to buy any of their music yet as it is all import here.

Here is their site

Also, regarding the Brian Wilson argument, I have been fortunate to see him
three times now, including Pet Sounds Symphonic and opening for Paul Simon.
I feel blessed that he is able to tour, and he has seemed more comfortable
each time. As a high schooler I naively pooh-poohed the Beach Boys, but now
I couldn't live without Brian's songs. As to his shows, I know a good deal
of the credit goes to his amazing band, but I found the experience

april :-)


Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:27:51 +0200
From: "Paolo at" <>
Subject: nokia ringtone
Message-ID: <000001c14529$6bbb57a0$7597d8d4@paolo>

ciao to all.
In my site I have put the tablature of "Senses working overtime".
Unfortunately it is necessary to insert all notes with a special program
(e.g. ringtone creator).
The program is easily available on the web.
Try to see.
>From homepage you go to "Sound" page.
Without joy.

paolo at "ten feet tall"


Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:35:02 -0400
From: "Danny Phipps" <>
Subject: welcome back, john!
Message-ID: <>

welcome back to cyberworld, john!

i'm so glad to see the chalkhills site back up and running
again!  way to go!  :-)

this has made my day, man.....

/danny phipps

"There's someone to tell you
 a course towards a universal season..."
                        -- Jon Anderson


Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:28:43 +1000
From: "Amy Gardner" <>
Subject: Elusive Mole
Message-ID: <>

Fellow Chalkhillians.

I'm a bit puzzled. I understand the Dukes released The Mole From The
Ministry as a single, yet everywhere I look I am unable to find a
picture of the single cover. Could you help me?



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