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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 79

                  Friday, 14 April 2000


                 Two sides to every story
                 High Fidelity - the book
                    On a previous riff
                      Fuzzy Warbles
                 Re: This Surfer Girl Boy
Kurt Schwitters is alive and well and living in Chalkhills
         Marquee Moon is worth way more than $.96
           Brown: How smells the settled dust?
                    Was Part Napper...
                    Napster ad nauseum
                       Me Stupid :P
          Spoilers. Scroll down if you must....
              Better listen to your radio...
                     Domplicated Game
                   Smells Like Victory
                       Jeff Buckley


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Who am I to reason why?


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:24:07 -0700
From: Richard Pedretti-Allen <>
Subject: Two sides to every story
Message-ID: <l03130307b51c077373d0@[]>

"Joe" is the name of the horse.


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:29:14 -0700
From: Ed Kedzierski <>
Subject: High Fidelity - the book
Message-ID: <>

Way back in 6-69, the Mole gave a glowing recommendation to High Fidelity -
the movie. Well, I'm currently about halfway through the book (tearing
through - stayed up way too late last night, I couldn't put it down, should
be finished tonight or tomorrow), and I'm loving it. What he said about
describing the inner workings of a music (or any other kind) geek's mind is
sure spot on, possibly even more so in the book's case (it is a book, after
all), though I'll wait until I see the movie. All the reviews I've seen
claim that the geographical shift hasn't damaged it, which I hope is true,
because if the movie is even half as funny as the book, then it's definitely
worth it. Even if you're not (or don't like to be called) a full-on music
"geek", anyone with a drop or two of geek blood, anyone who knows a truly
obsessive music geek, or indeed anyone who reads this digest often enough
will find something to identify with. It's been a while since a book has
made me laugh out loud (the last one was probably "Stark"), and I can't
reccomended it highly enough. I'm definitely going to check out the movie
Read the book.
See the movie.
Do both. Or just see the movie if you don't like to read (simpleton). Or
just read the book if you hate movies (snob).
Whatever, just be sure to check out "High Fidelity" in some form. (I'm not
affiliated with any organization that might financially reward me for saying
this. I wish I was, though... nice work if you can get it, etc.)
Ed K.


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:34:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: (Moore's Code)
Subject: XTCipher
Message-ID: <>

Hey, Tarquin Gotch!

Go here, NOW!!

I'm The Man Who Murdered Courtney Love!

Julia Roberts


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:52:53 EDT
Subject: On a previous riff
Message-ID: <>

Well we've gone through the most overrated albums by other bands (happen to
agree about Exile--it is both overrated and could easily be reduced to one
good album much like the White Album) At the risk of boring everyone on the
list any takers for the most   album (let's stay with some really obscure
stuff here folks so that we all might pick up on a new, interesting artist)
or the most overrated Xtc album (and why--be specific, offensive, radical
and, yes, nasty if you must). Hey, after that we can work on the most
overrated and underrated post.

Anyhow, any takers?



Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:48:39 EDT
Subject: Fuzzy Warbles
Message-ID: <>

Just curious if anyone knows what's happening with the demos release. Rumor
has it that FW isn't likely to happen because of the pissing match that
Virgin has engaged in with the guys. Sounds like someone at Virgin (despite
all the mergers) still has a grudge to settle. Perhaps they should consider
Celebrity Death Match and let Andy and Colin get on with their lives.

I'm hoping that someone or something will knock the wind out of Virgin's
sales.  Maybe (if Virgin screws up the release of FW and torches any chance
of the demos finally being available in pristine form) we could come up with
our own FW (who knows maybe even A&C would "accidentally" leak their original
demos for remastering). Then again, I wouldn't want them deprived of their
royalties (paltry though they may be because of the Devil's bargain they had
to strike with Virgin). Wishful thinking.

Speaking of demos anybody know if Wasp Star will sire something similar to
Homespun? Are we likely to get the demos that didn't make the album as b
sides to the singles this time (making them more essential than the singles
release from AV1)? Will Colin be making any appearances besides LA and NY
this time (it would be nice to see in the Bay Area).

As a film grad (from UCLA, yes the other school) I've never been surprised
about Xtc's popularity within the creative community. Their music isn't the
lifeless preprogrammed crap that appears on most radio stations (hate to say
it but it applies as much to Mariah Carey as it does to most power pop and
rock bands).  Sadly, no one from my class has made it quite as big as those
folks mentioned. It's a matter of timing, talent and who you know. Mmmm
sounds a lot like the music industry.

(SPOILER OF SORTS FOLKS) I wonder if the pop elements that crop up
consistently through WS will bump the band's sales up a bit.  The sad thing
is that they seem to have peaked sales wise (in the US at least) with
Skylarking and O&L. Is their time past or are they so hopelessly out of
fashion that they will be back in fashion? It's always nice to see the
artists you admire find new fans. The marginal existence that plagues a lot
of fine bands and authors continues to be part of the injustice of our
homogenized world.

A non Xtc note: Anyone interested in a CDR transfer of the Talking Heads The
Name of this Band is Talking Heads please let me know off list. I've been
waiting for this great album (with wonderful playing by Adrian Belew) to make
an appearance on CD. I decided to take matters into my own hands and make a
CDR from the original album. Email me off list if you're interested.

One final question--has Colin ever considered a solo album (beyond the
dabbling he did as the Colonel, etc.)? I love the group dynamic, but I'd love
to see him step out from behind Andy's shadow for a change. Don't get me
wrong, I love Andy's stuff as well but this would be a chance for Colin to
try experiments he might otherwise not get to do.  Didn't mean to be so long
winded (well, yeah, really I did) but waiting for the official release of WS
and relistening to some of the band's older stuff has overstimulated the
question center in my brain (quick! Someone take his Xtc collection away
before he hurts someone!)



Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:00:36 EDT
Subject: Re: This Surfer Girl Boy
Message-ID: <>

In a message dated 4/11/00 11:24:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
<> writes:

> i would say that 'this boy' is a rather less sophisticated song to surfer
>  girl et al. Judging from the ed sullivan shows it was an excellent
>  melodramatic moment in a highly charged show which sounds tame in the
>  studio.
>  jon

I beg (OK, I know its not necessary to beg here) to disagree. The sheer
power and yearning in Lennon's vocal blows away Surfer Girl IMHO. Both are
great songs and are brilliantly performed but the angst in Lennon's vocal
(along with the block harmonies) blows away Surfer Girl. There's no doubt
that there are other BBsongs that can blow some Beatles songs out of the
water (and vice versa--Good Vibrations with its audacious arrangement
springs to mind).  Nobody in the Beach Boys could touch Lennon as a
vocalist. While his vocal range wasn't as good as Paul's, he had a unique
quality to be able to tap into his emotional center and pour that raw
emotion into the heart of a song (great run on sentence there).

XTC point--This is one of the few Lennonesque qualities that I've found in


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:09:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: Kurt Schwitters is alive and well and living in Chalkhills
Message-ID: <>

sir han TM BG be gee, bourbon curvin swervin dservin
coolin, sweatin, smokin, 'laxin, chicko ria rilke
de lurk de klerk cap kirk wax werx, cup jo big perk
ber zerk slay circ
bet boop poop soup quo loup who's who, hoo hoo jou dou
tutu voodoo

Etc. etc.

I heard Talking Heads were reforming. The first thing
they are doing is setting the text above to music.
It'l have an Arican sound to it. They've got Brian Eno
on board as producer...


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: Marquee Moon is worth way more than $.96
Message-ID: <>

The royalties paid for this are minimal.  I believe
they are less than $10 per year for even the biggest
hits.  I believe Tom Verlaine  (Television)
gets payed something like 96 cents per year for
Television's classic Marquee Moon record.  What
happens is that radio stations pay  ASCAP/BMI,
and this money is distributed to the artists.  It
isn't based on how often it gets played, because I've
never heard of a radio station  reporting
its playlist to either of the two companies.
Is this true? I heard someone on the radio talking
about Tommy James (of the SHondells) about ten years
ago. He said thet Tommy JAmes made about 120,000 a
year just from royalties from his songs being played.
I've always heard that songwriters get a much larger
cut than performers, but Verlaine wrote for
Television. I suppose the guy on the radio may not
have knowh what he is talking about. That figure could
have been based on record sales as well.

By the way, you should all get your hands on a copy of
Marquee Moon. A truly Excellant album.


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:00:02 PDT
From: "andrew hawkes" <>
Subject: Rage
Message-ID: <>

For any Australian insomniacs out there, Dear God is playing just after
2am on Sat night's Rage along with some Pogues, Specials, TMBG & Tom
Waits. This comes only two weeks after someone programmed This is Pop.


Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:17:26 -0500
From: Jill Oleson <>
Subject: Brown: How smells the settled dust?
Message-ID: <81CC73FC2FACD311A2D200508B8B88AA0D6FF8@KURION_EXCH>

The equally charming Ms. Debora Brown asked what I thought
of Wasp Star since it has been a while since I received a taped
copy in the mail.  Unfortunately, I only listened to it twice before
it was stolen from me.  Some wretched sod (who would be my
husband) wrested it from my clutching grasp, listened to it repeatedly
and never returned it.  Then he has the nerve to whistle those
coveted tunes while bathing alone in the shower.  Hmmm....
Can you smell a lynching in the making?  Shall I pour something
special in his coffee from a bottle under the kitchen sink?
One decorated with a skull and crossbones?

Did you read in Chalkhills where he announced that he took it to
bed with him where on those soft cotton sheets he... he...
[well, I don't really know because I was not there...but I have
a good imagination... don't you?]

Note:  I received a free CD of AV1 from a kindly soul before it was
released to the general public.  Still, when the CD was finally available
for purchase, I bought 13 -- count 'em -- thirteen copies!  I asked
Andy to autograph 6 of them while I was on vacation in San Francisco.
He was so sweet and agreeable.  Surely his wrist must have pained
him after a couple of weeks of constant use on the autograph tour,
but he did not complain -- at least, not to me.  He even personalized
a few for me to give to some of our fellow Chalkers.  I hope to get
another opportunity to do the same with Wasp Star.  I think this new
album will make the perfect present for friends and family.

Thanks for asking Debora, even though I completely avoided
answering your question. (Did you notice that?)

Jill Oleson
Austin, Texas


Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:10:42 -0400
Subject: Spoil-sport
Message-ID: <>

My desperate search for an advance copy finally paid
off and, after 4 days of repeated listenings, I've got a
few comments to toss out to those of you who have
heard the disc.

Nay -- page down not -- this will not be a song-by-song,

IF there is one extraordinary production choice that
really defines Wasp Star's sound, it has to be the
near _absence_ of reverb.  With the exception of
CM's "Boarded Up" and a few snare -drum hits,
there's just no reverb!  The  overall result is a really
tight, controlled vibe.  This is not to say  that AP & CM
haven't done some ingenious things with the effects --
there's plenty of clever use of delay (usually quick/slap
back echo) and some wild panning going on.

This of course just reinforces the fundamental separation
in concepts between  AVI & II.   The level of control
here initially hit my ears as an "over-careful"  approach,
particularly regarding tempo.  Those of you who have
worn out your  copies of the demos will find "My Brown
Guitar" and "The Man Who Murdered  Love" a bit slow
at first hearing ( the tempo shift makes it seem as if AP
is  giving elocution lessons -- I -.'m - the -man-
who-.mur-der-ed-Love-") but happily, this cross-phasing
between the mental image of the demos and the  new
versions does subside.  It's just one of the hazards of listening
to demos in the  first place, I suppose.

Another result of the ultra tight, largely anechoic production
is that Wasp Star has a lot less going on in the high-frequency
range than AV1 -- again, surely a conscious  decision. AP's
Fano guitar and its humbuckerish tones have supplanted  DG's
strat  twang & chime; CM is working that Abby Road McCartney
bass sound for all it's  worth (need I say that CM remains my
favorite bassist of all time???).  Everything  they've done here,
timbreally, has been brilliantly, perhaps ruthlessly programmed
to  craft a unique sonic brand for the album.

The energy and drive of AVII is a delight -- those of you who've
been craving electric  guitars, gangway, you've bloody well
benjamin-gott 'em.  Try playing Todd's sounds of the studio
with this disc, and keep track of the guitar layering on each
cut.  Also, did I mention that CM is my favorite bassist of
all time?  His playing propels "Stupidly Happy" into a tie
with Harry Nilsson's "Jump Into the Fire" for best one-chord
song, period. Other high points for me include "You and the
Clouds Will Still be Beautiful," "Church of Women," and "Maypole"
-- each of which I greatly disliked in their demo versions.
(If only I could learn to like the final cut of Greenman as
much as I like the demo version.) I particularly like the cheesy
pawn shop sound of that nylon-string guitar on COW-

Jeepers, this is going on far longer than I intended.  To sum up:
I love these songs, I believe  them to be giddily contagious.
Did Andy cut it as sole guitarist? Yes.  (Do I miss Dave Gregory?
Yes.) Wasp Star has a lyrical sting, it's got hits, and it's got a
seriously cool mojo. I couldn't say  this about AVI (much as I
admired it), but I predict honest-to-goodness airplay this go round.

Don't let the disappointed tell you different, folks -- this disc is all

Greg Marrs
"Against the assault of laughter, nothing can stand."-- Mark Twain


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:51:32 -0500
From: Roger Carvey <>
Subject: Was Part Napper...
Message-ID: <>

In #6-77, Mr. Brantley composed:

"wasp star napster was part napper, was not was her nazz nazz buzz sir
pop star popster pop tart popper, top pops pap smear tip top rap ear
zig zag sesac seagulls c-sec, sear suck sight see sin sound teen town
be bim bop lop be him sock hop, e i e i high hope hip hop..."  (snip zip

Mr. Brantley,

Please be warned that a reliable source (and subscriber to this list!)
has made it known to me that Mr. Andy Partridge is seriously considering
the use of your lyrics for "The Lure Of Salvage, Vol. 2", but only if
Terry drums on the track.  Dreadfully sorry, so close...  I did laugh
out loud, though.  Thanks!

Cheryl -- I would like to see our boys return (for at least one song) to
the jangly, jumpy, neurotic pulse of "Science Friction," "This Is Pop,"
or "I'll Set Myself On Fire."  The late seventies will rise again!

Now everybody, get back to work!

Roger Carvey


Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 06:52:00 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Napster ad nauseum
Message-ID: <l03130301b51cb3fa7389@[]>

>Ramblin' man Chris Coolidge said about Napster:
>> If I try it out It'll be with some unsigned band nobody's ever heard of.<
>Um, yeah. I believe becki's already spoken to that issue quite
>And Chris, what exactly was the point of your story about Bob Sherwood?

  Used to be in a band with Bob, that's all. Incidentally, I tried out
Macster, the Mac version of Napster. I ended up downloading TMBG's "XTC vs.
Adam Ant." I listened to it once and probably won't listen to it again. For
some reason my MP# probram glitches when I do anything at my computer than
sit idly there and listen; if I want to listen to music I'd rather put
something on the CD player and crash on my couch with a good book, rather
than sit there gawking at a computer screen. All but two of the MP3's I
have I made myself from my own songs, and when I have time I was planning
on uploading them somewhere. Otherwise the MP3 format is too much work.
Whoever spends time cruising Napster and downloading MP3's must have a lot
of time on their hands and must be independently wealthy. Myself, I have to
work and earn a living. I'd rather spend my extra time conversing with you
folks than downloading MP3's. So my previous musings on the point are moot;
Becki doesn't need to worry; I'd rather buy her album than spend an hour
downloading, converting and playing only to take up limited space on my
hard drive and not be able to do anything while it's playing without it
glitching whenever I use the mouse or return key.

Christopher R. Coolidge

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10 GREAT laws.  A Good law protects me from you.  Laws against murder,
theft, assault and the like are good laws.  A Poor law attempts to
protect me from myself."  - Unknown


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Molly Fanton <>
Subject: Me Stupid :P
Message-ID: <>

You know how much I was bitching and moaning about
Napster, well, I was cleaning up my computer's hard
drive, and I noticed I had downloaded Napster.  I
forgot I did after watching a story about it on TV a
while back.  I was a curious soul, so I tried it.  I
forgot it messed up my poor ole computer, because it
zapped a lot of memory from it.  So I'm such a
hypocrite for bitching about something *i* tried not
that long ago.  *slaps head*
Oh I wish May 23 would come faster.  I'm DYING to hear
Wasp Star.  *falls on the floor*



Molly's Pages


Date: 14 Apr 00 05:46:26 PDT
From: Brian Wysolmierski <>
Subject: Spoilers. Scroll down if you must....
Message-ID: <>

Something I just noticed in Im the Man who Murdered Love: The lyrics changed
from, "What do you think of that?" to "What do you think TO that?"
...Not a big deal, just kind of interesting.

After listening to Wasp Star for a few days, I have to say, I think that
all of the songs improve from the demo version except for My Brown
Guitar. For me, it sounds clumsy and surreal, and not catchy like it once
was. I'm disapointed with that one.
A question to those who haven't heard the demos: What did you think of My
Brown Guitar?--I'm wondering if it may be a good song, but my mind can't
deviate from the demo version.


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:19:30 -0700
From: "Digitalmaster" <>
Subject: Better listen to your radio...
Message-ID: <001701bfa5d9$7a0e3160$0200a8c0@digitalpc>

I feel like I am part of some moral majority that is waiting for Christ's
return.  God (only capitalized because its the first word in this sentence!)
I can't believe after all this waiting people are giving in to their earthly
desires and downloading Wasp Star.  I have had Napster on my system for
months now but refuse to even use it now (besides, it crashes so much

Really, I only used Napster to download one album.  Its the "Forbidden
Album" from "The Clash" entitled "Cut The Crap."  I refused to buy it which
is why I downloaded it.  In fact, the group does not recognize that as an
album because Mick was not on guitar, which of course was the worst decision
a band could make.  The album was complete shit.  For me, it was like
listening to Def Leopard trying to do Punk or something.  I don't know, it
was just a really bad album.  Comes close to being as bad as "Boy's Don't

Ok, I admit it!  I am changing the subject because I want to hear the damn
album so bad.  I wish I could at least hear 1 song from it.  That would hold
me over for the month long wait.  What am I to do?!  On one side, I just
want to wait so I will enjoy it more.  But on the other side, I can't hold
it in (hey, this is starting to sound dirty!)  I am going to start calling
the local radio station to play the song.

A matter of fact, that is a damn good idea.  That is another bad thing about
MP3 if you think about it.  If a lot of people can instantly hear a song
from the new album (even the whole album) then they are less likely to call
the local radio stations.  We should all start calling in every local radio
station (well, the ones that would possibly play XTC) and start requesting
The Man Who Murdered Love.  I never listen to the radio, but to hear that
song for the first time, I would become an instant radio listener!

Digitalmaster forever in limbo...


Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 5:32:41 -0600
From: "Dom" <>
Subject: Domplicated Game
Message-ID: <>

>>Has anyone else caught on to Dom's fickle use of names.

I don't know what you mean.

>>Where does he get it?

Wherever I can, but nowhere near often enough. Inflatable armbands and
vaseline are probably the best short-term measure...



Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:30:03 EDT
Subject: Smells Like Victory
Message-ID: <>

>From: "Jamie Lowe" <>
>Subject: Something smells

>Indeed, there is nothing like the genuine article, but do discs actually
>have a smell?   Does Black Sea smell like the English coast at low tide?
>I for one haven't noticed any.

One never likes to toot one's horn (one prefers instead to timidly tingle
one's triangle), but oh well what the hell. There was a controversy at the
time of the release of the Beatles' Anthology albums: Some loony-fringe
macropsychotic posted to that the CDs smelled like celery.
It looked like a job for...Empirical Man![ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=147172372.1&search=thread&CONTEXT=


>From: Paul Brantley <>
>Subject: wapster octameter
>wasp star napster was part napper, was not was her nazz nazz buzz sir
>pop star popster pop tart popper, top pops pap smear tip top rap ear

Ladies and gentlemen: Dutch Schultz! Thank you very much, thank you...

(The fuck's he talking about?


>From: "Mike Vancha" <>
>Subject: new XTC
>I'm wondering if anyone knows when the new XTC album is slated to come



>From: "Jim Smart" <>
>Subject: The XTCs of easy guitar
>Digitalmaster wants some easy XTC songs for guitar.


>I suspect that this is why some people think this album
>doesn't sound like XTC. Andy usually likes to change keys a lot. He'll
>often have the chorus in a different key, as on Merely a Man,
>Supergirl, and Playground, to name but a few.

Yes, I think you're very much onto something here.

>But on the Man Who
>Murdered he really stuck to the "rules".

...Even to the point of eschewing some really temptingly obvious
cliches--e.g., goosing the excitement level by modulating upward for the last
chorus, like some moronic Broadway show-stopper. Cheeeeeap trick, man.
(Hypocrisy alert! Hypocrisy alert!....)

If you want easy songs for guitar, you could do worse than Peter Pumpkinhead.

Harrison "Though I don't see how" Sherwood


Date: 14 Apr 00 09:18:30 MDT
Subject: Jeff Buckley
Message-ID: <>


Reviewed the new Buckley, very good live recording.  Interesting that it's
actually a collection of live songs recorded in 7 different venues in the
year between 2/95 & 96.  The songs segue into each other flawlessly, you
cannot find the point where the crowd cheering in (say)Australia merges
into the one in (say)France.  It has 5 previously unreleased tunes, the
only two that I was familiar with: What Will You Say & Kanga Roo, are
fantastic.  The other three I'd never heard Jeff do, which was a
treat. When Jeff goes from Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" into the Smiths "I
Know It's Over" and back again: "Oh mother, I can feel the soil falling
over my head," into Cohen's "well maybe there's a God above", it's pure
magic. Fans of Buckley need to pick this one up when it hits the stores
next month. (5/9/00).  There's also going to be a video released on the
same date of a live Buckley gig in Chicago, also available on DVD.

Play nice my children,



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