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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 53

                 Wednesday, 29 March 2000

Today's Topics:

                    My Heavy Rotation
                        The Kinks
              locked out of listening party?
            k.d., k.d., give me your album, do
                     Reginald Dwight
                  What's In My CD Player
         Aimee Mann and Dave Gregory--since when?
                       CD listening
            Meeting Andy and the Album Debate
                      Re: AV2 grade
               Re: Aimee Mann at the Oscars
                 Kevin Gilbert and stuff
             Les Baxter The Father Of Exotica
Kinks "Autumn Almanac" NOT on Village Green Preservation Society
                        WASP STAR
                     Changer contents
                   Mann on the Oscars.
                    C+ Boy does a 180


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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 17:14:52 -0800
From: "Mike Martis" <>
Subject: My Heavy Rotation
Message-ID: <00aa01bf991c$305564e0$db28fea9@mmartis>

Currently shuffling through my CD player:

Humming -- Duncan Sheik
Can You Still Feel? -- Jason Faulkner
Nearly Human -- Todd Rundgren
Milestones -- Miles Davis
Classics -- Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66-'86
Two Against Nature -- Steely Dan
Striking It Rich -- Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks
Bryter Layter -- Nick Drake
Whereabouts -- Ron Sexsmith
The Concert Sinatra -- Frank Sinatra
The Flat Earth -- Thomas Dolby
Black Sea -- XTC


Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:40:29 -0500
From: mitch friedman <>
Subject: The Kinks
Message-ID: <v03007809b5071d0a1f58@[]>

Just to throw in my few cents . . .

I was a very big Kinks fan before I ever heard of XTC and it was only
because I was a Kinks fan that I loved XTC the first time I was treated to
their music.

I'm still a huge Kinks fan.

By all means, pick up the double album compilation "Kinks Kronikles" which
came out in '70 or '71 and contains many of their best late '60s singles
and rare b-sides as well as several excellent tracks that cannot be found
anywhere else.



Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:42:21 EST
Subject: locked out of listening party?
Message-ID: <>

chalky folks...
Molly says-

<< I just wanted to remind people about this week's XTC Listening Party.
 This week it's for, "The Big Express", and I'm having it in the room
 called, xtclisteningparty.  For more details go to:  I hope
 to see you all there this Wednesday at 10pm EST. :)

Heh...Do you really hope to see us ALL there? I tried several times to get
into the English settlement one--ACCESS REFUSED--harumph...please explain!

eddie st.martin


Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 23:10:32 -0500
Subject: k.d., k.d., give me your album, do
Message-ID: <002101bf9935$991b8fe0$35df7ad1@default>

Tyler wrote:
> Last year was a good one for music, with XTC, and Tom
> Waits to look forward to. We've got XTC again this
> year, who else? I hear rumors of Kate Bush, Suzanne
> Vega and k.d.lang, artists who'd have me running
> full-tilt towards the nearest record store on release
> day.

Can't speak for Kate and Suzanne, but the new k.d. lang is no rumor.  Look
for her new one, "Invincible Summer", around May 2.  More to be happy about!
Speaking of brilliant female singers, Kirsty MacColl's new one is out, but
not here in the states yet, grr.  But I heard her new single, "In These
Shoes?", and it's hysterical.

-- Francis

"Irish folktales scare the sh*t out of me."
   -- Pavement


Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:32:44 -0500
From: Mark Newberg <>
Subject: Reginald Dwight
Message-ID: <>
Organization: @Home Network

Hey Chalkster!!

I've just spent a portion of my day listening to Mr. Dwight (Elton
John for the musically challenged).........Honky Chateau..Goodbye
Yellow Brick Road...Elton John...Capt. Fantastic and Brown Dirt
Cowboy. I then switched over to Nonsuch.

It would seem to me that Reg and Andy would have similar musical
taste. They even look similar from far away!!

I'm wondering if there are any other Elton John fans here. I know for
a while back in the eighties it was not cool to admit that he/she
liked Elton John.

Do people here prefer the John/Rice collaborations or ,my preference,

Carpe diem,

Mark Newberg
'Eighty percent of life is showing up.' - Woody Allen


Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:18:11 -0800
From: Richard Pedretti-Allen <>
Subject: What's In My CD Player
Message-ID: <l0313030cb50725d308a6@[]>

I wanted to participate in the "What's In My CD Player" so I took a look
and documented my findings.

*Power Supply
*Sealed Laser Compartment
*A Paper Clip (?)
*Output Transistors
*A Brown Plastic Board With Gold Squiggly Lines, Rectangular Bug-like
Pieces and Lots Of Bits Of Candy With Protruding Wires
*Twist-ties Holding Bundles Of Wires Together
*Two Small Lights

I have a lot of screws and a few wires left over.  Are there any Chalkies
who are good at reassembling these things?  Write me off-digest.

Anyway glad I could share.

Richard "And your mother buys her gin" Pedretti-Allen


Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:01:15 -0800
From: "Doug Swan" <>
Subject: Aimee Mann and Dave Gregory--since when?
Message-ID: <03f501bf9933$6ee2c380$b12579a5@com>

To Rob: Humor me here. I've just gone through every cd Aimee Mann has ever
recorded (plus a few that none of you have) and have yet to see Dave
Gregory credited with an appearance (not that Aimee wouldn't love to have
him). Is there something you know that I'm just not getting or are you
confusing Jon Brion with Dave Gregory? Aside from Jon Brion, the only other
guitar player used on her albums, by and large, is Michael
Lockwood. Illuminate me, I must be in the dark. Take care all. Doug


Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:45:03 -0800
From: "Martin & Jamie Monkman" <>
Subject: CD listening
Message-ID: <003f01bf993c$29753d60$>

Willing to inflict my view of the world of music upon you poor souls,
here's my "most recent five" list (since I listen to CDs the old fashioned
way, one at a time) in reverse order.  Sorry, no XTC.

1.  Aimee Mann "Bachelor No.2"--A recent acquisition, this was my first
listen.  At this point I'm not willing to go out on a limb and provide an
assessment of quality.  However, I will say that given that it was recorded
over an enormous period of time, with a revolving door of producers and
players, it sounds remarkably cohesive.  Songs that caught my attention
first time through were "Nothing is good enough" and "Calling it quits".

2.  John Renbourn & Stephan Grossman  "The Three Kingdoms"--Instrumental,
fingerstyle guitar in some sort of genre-warp blues folk classical jazz
hybrid.  Absolutely beautiful.

3.  Pat Metheny  "Trio 99->00"--Jumpin' jehosophat the boy can play.  Once
again, a guitar trio inspires Metheny to make some of his finest music.  The
music is mostly post-bop blowing, with some of Metheny's acoustic ballads
and bop standards to lighten the flow.

4.  Buddy Miller  "Cruel Moon"--I haven't been able to get this one out of
heavy rotation since I bought it 6 months ago.  Neo-trad country, with lots
of soul (the Otis Redding variety).

5.  Crowded House  "Afterglow"--A new collection of B-sides and outtakes.
Half of the tunes are solid Neil Finn compostions; the other half are
understandably leftovers.  In other words, for committed Crowded House fans


The Monkman homepage:


Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:24:19 -0800
From: "Digitalmaster" <>
Subject: Meeting Andy and the Album Debate
Message-ID: <000b01bf993f$093f5c80$0200a8c0@digitalpc>

Paul, Thanks for the very descriptive write up of your experience meeting
Andy.  Almost made me feel as if I had met the guy.  Yeah, that would be a
really great experience; especially bullshitting and talking about the new

And now to expand on what Ed had to say.  I am SO FU%#ING SICK of going to
Wherehouse or Tower Records (when I shopped offline) and asking "Do you
have the new such and such album."  "No, sorry, we only have that on CD."
Are people that stupid?

The same thing happens on ebay.  I use to email people saying "Thanks for
bidding on the XTC album: White Music" (or whatever the album would be) and
they would throw a fit "I thought it was a fucking CD, I'm not going to pay
for it!."  Of course, when I explain that I meant CD, they are fine, but
this happens way to often.  I even got a negative feedback because of this
before.  I guess I should start referring to a photo album as "A binder
with a collection of photos."

AN ALBUM IS A COLLECTION, plain and simple.  Sorry to dwell on this, but
until our friend ED said something, I thought I was the only person who had
to deal with morons who didn't know what an album was.

Thanks for all the recommendations.  I have been getting a ton of new stuff
on CDNOW (thanks of course to the coupon that lets me use it over and over
and get $10 off $15) based on the recommendations I have received from this
list.  I am a newbie when it comes to groups like the Residents.  Though I
heard them, I never bought anything.  They were almost like a Husker Du to
me.  In that, I liked them a little, but never bought anything.

A month more to wait!


Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:29:49 -0800
From: Rich Bunnell <>
Subject: Re: AV2 grade
Message-ID: <>
Organization: @Home Network

> I just got my advance copy of AV2 today (is this old news already? I
> haven't read a digest in some time. That's my wife's domain).  1
> listen, first impression: not impressed, seems much weaker overall
> than AV1.  Only 1 l isten thus far, however.  A couple of the songs
> that I thought were weak on the demos actually come off better on
> the CD.
> 2. Apple Venus 2 (C+)

Awww, you jinxed it! But I like the idea that the weaker demoes turned
out better on the album, which I hope were "Boarded Up," "You And The
Clouds...," and "Some Lovely," all three excellent songs melody-wise
(especially the last one) but a bit marred by clunky demo production.

Rich Bunnell


Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 00:53:49 -0500
From: Jason Long <>
Subject: Re: Aimee Mann at the Oscars
Message-ID: <>

Rob wrote:
>Slightly off topic, but given the frequency of Dave Grgeory on her
>disks, I wondered what anyone thought of Aimee Mann's performance on the
>Academy Awards last night....
>Personally I have always dug her music since the Til Tuesday days and
>in fact almost bought the Melrose Place soundtrack (never found it
>however) for her and Letters to Cleo. I know Dave Gregory performed on
>"I should have known", and was sort of wondering if it could have been
>him playing guitar alongside Aimee, who was just a little too close to
>the microphone and a little too overwhelmed, I thought, by Phil,
>Sarah/Randy, Gloria and good ole Robin Williams (Blame Canada indeed!).

Actually, Dave Gregory does not appear on "I Should've Known" -- it's Jon
Brion who was responsible for the guitar work on that song. Dave's name
does not appear in the credits of any of Aimee's three solo albums; I don't
believe he's ever recorded anything with her (with the exception of maybe
some b-sides), although he was a member of her _Whatever_-era touring band.

The two guitarists who played with Aimee on the Academy Awards were Michael
Lockwood and Buddy Judge.

Regarding the thread about what we've been listening to, Michael Penn's
_MP4_ and Aimee's _Bachelor No. 2_ have both been spending a lot of time in
my CD player lately. The new Eels CD has gotten a few spins this week as
well; right now _English Settlement_, the Loud Family's _Interbabe Concern_
and Liz Phair's _Exile in Guyville_ are all in the changer.




Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 03:34:17 EST
Subject: Kevin Gilbert and stuff
Message-ID: <>

Hello to all again...

Saw the posting regarding Kevin Gilbert's amazing CD called 'Thud'. There
has recently been issued a posthumous release of another dazzling work
called 'The Shaming of the True'. So far it's a limited release and a bit
expensive but if you can track it down, it's well worth the
price. Wonderful melodies and superb arrangements, you won't be

The recent news regarding WASP STAR is exciting and I'm having a hard time
believing the quick turn around between the two releases. Surely Colin and
Andy have even more tunes waiting in the wings? I'm like a junkie...I only
want more...  Oh yeah, I heard 'Across This Antheap' in Musak form at my
grocery...laughed out loud, I did...

What's in MY changer?

Kevin Gilbert-The Shaming of the True
Neil Finn-Try Whistling This
Macca-Run Devil Run
Danny Elman-Music for a Darkened Theatre

and I have a cassette of unreleased XTC gems in my car...

Jon Stone


Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:21:23 +0900
From: "John Boudreau" <>
Subject: Les Baxter The Father Of Exotica
Message-ID: <000001bf9951$44ef5700$665791d2@johnboud>

>What about the whole "Exotica" connection between XTC and The >Residents?
>Somehow Tiki culture made to both camps... Along with everything >else,
>it's the Martin Denny factor
>that they share.

I am a big Martin Denny fan ( and I am SURE AP is as well ) , however , if
it were not for Les Baxter - the composer of Denny's biggest hit " Quiet
Village " and countless other mystical/magical exotic world music tunes -
Denny would probably still be sitting in a Waikiki night spot sipping
drinks watching the world go by . Denny was the public face of Exotica ;
Baxter the mastermind . I wholeheartedly recommend a 2-CD set on Capitol
Records ( includes fascinating booklet w/ numerous photos ) entitled " The
Exotic Moods Of Les Baxter " . With song titles like " High Priest Of The
Aztecs " ; " Spice Islands Sea Birds " ; " Harem Silks From Bombay " and "
The Left Arm Of Buddha " you KNOW you just can't go wrong .

To the guy who was looking to pick up some KINKS albums , " Kinks Kronikles
" is a double LP ( CD ) set on Reprise that is just a super compilation ,
and it includes such classic tracks as " Deadend Street " and " Autumn
Almanac " + other tunes ( B-sides and otherwise ) that you do not find on
other LPs . Great liner notes , too . I just happen to have an extra copy
of a still sealed LP set if you are interested . $ 20 inc. postage .



Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:12:22 +0200
From: Johan Ekdahl <>
Subject: Kinks "Autumn Almanac" NOT on Village Green Preservation Society
Message-ID: <>

Will claimed (on The Kins Are The Village Green Preservation Society):

 >By the way, the remastered version of Village Green has "Days" and
 >"Autumn Almanac," which within the last two years Andy said was "the
 >greatest song ever," but I've never heard it because it was only a

Look out Will, and others! "Days" is on the remastered VGPS, but
"Autumn Almanac" IS NOT! At least not on my specimen. The excellent
reference site doesn't list it on VGPS either.

It is of course present on several singles collections though, and
every Kinks fan ought to own at lest one of those!

For XTC content; listen to "Do You Remeber Walter" or "Monica"
from VGPS and if Mr Partridge didn't get influences from thereabouts
I just don't know anything!! Eg on "Monica" the part beginning
"I-I-Should-Die...". Yes?



Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:16:42 +0800
From: "Kevin Mathews" <>
Subject: WASP STAR
Message-ID: <003a01bf9970$7bd66be0$f57e74cb@mathews>


Listening to the WASP STAR promo disc (for the first time) even as I type -
it is gorgeous XTC guitar pop - THEY'RE BACK!!! - and the absence of Gregory
doesn't seem to have hurt the material as much as I feared. Though the
arrangements are less sophisticated than what you'd expected.
AND in tracks like the Bacharach-like "In Another Life," quirky "Boarded Up"
and bouncy "Standing In For Joe," Colin is back to his best songwriting -
it's clear that the limp tracks on AV-1 were merely an abberation. Whew!
Andy? Winners all! Cruelly catchy choruses ("I'm the Man Who Murdered
Love"), touchingly naive ("Playground"), mindless boogie ("Stupidly Happy"),
Beatlesque magic ("My Brown Guitar"), jaunty ska ("You and the Clouds will
still be beautiful") - very Sting doh, "difficult" jazzy torch ("Church of
Women") ...
Producer Nick Davis (latter-day Genesis) ensures a very thick full sound,
the strings and horn on "The Wheel and the Maypole" comes closest to stuff
on AV-1.

More later at the Power of Pop

Kevin Mathews
Touched by the Power of Pop


Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:30:17 +0100
From: Peter Walker <>
Subject: Changer contents
Message-ID: <842C9E518CBFD2119501006097278BC523962B@WALLACE>

Hell, everyone else is doing it....

This week, I have been mostly listening to....

The Divine Comedy - Fin De Siecle
Moxy Fruvous - You Will Go To The Moon
The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow
Talking Heads - Fear Of Music
Mercury Rev - Deserter's Songs
Crowded House - Afterglow
Fountains Of Wayne - Utopia Parkway
Pixies - At The BBC
XTC - Apple Venus Volume 1
Aimee Mann - Bachelor No. 2
Velvet Crush - Teenage Symphonies To God
Beethoven's Missa Solemnis as played by The Hanover Band

Season's greetings,


Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 06:15:09 -0800 (PST)
From: nross <>
Subject: Mann on the Oscars.
Message-ID: <>

I thought her performance was great.

Didn't care very much about Magnolia before I heard her sing on the
Oscars... now I want to buy the soundtrack.  Was bumbed that Blame
Canada or the song from Toy Story didn't win... But (against popular
opinion on this digest) Phil Collins can write decent popular music.
Hell, so what if its the same song 20 times over, it does have a nice
sound to it. Ah... but still, BLAME CANADA, dammit :-)

Dom, hmm, maybe I'll have to get that Tigermilk cd after all. My
favorite Belle and Sebastian song is Seeing Other People... haven't
heard the one you mentioned...

What is on my CD player?

Tarzan Soundtrack
The Bee Gees Greatest
Donny Osmond sings Baroque.

Okay, for real:

B & S: If you're feeling sinister
Cat Stevens: Remember, The Ultimate Collection
XTC: Oranges and Lemons

oh... and that Ricky Martin cd (though its a coworkers and I just
listen to it at work... but I do like it).


Nicole's internet music station:


Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 06:13:51 -0800
From: "Russ Reynolds" <>
Subject: C+ Boy does a 180
Message-ID: <>

Let's review....

> 1 listen, first
> impression: not impressed, seems much weaker overall than AV1.


> 1. Pac Bell Park  (A+)
> 2. Apple Venus 2 (C+)

Now, I could take the easy way out and say that my dog typed that on my
computer (he's never liked XTC--says Andy sings like a Boston Terrier and
he's a die hard Yankees fan) but instead I'm going to go ahead and offer
this update:  after four listens Apple Venus 2 (which will heneforth be
known as Wasp Star) has shot up to an A-.   Big factors: headphones and
time.   I'll leave it at that and let you folks discover this for

So what have we learned here?  First, never compare apples and ballparks.
Second, if you're going to post your first impression of this CD for all to
see be prepared to eat your words a short time later.

-russ' dog

PS Pac Bell Park remains an A+


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