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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 48

                  Friday, 24 March 2000

Today's Topics:

                   XTC & the Residents
                  self/starring the wasp
        Weird chords inside the green-gold mine...
Check Soul Coughing site for verification of band breakup
           Re: Is there any good music out now?
              2.2 cents worth including GST
                Other good music out there
                   How do I get a copy
                     Mayan and yours
           must resist...must resist...DELURK!
                     He Who Hesitates
                    music for XTC fans
         The True Meaning of "W.A.S.P. S.T.A.R."
             ...with hilarious consequences!
                      Re: star rules
                     getting my fill
                Re: What I call that noise
                       Mmm Mmm Good
                  CSNY, POO, Nick Drake


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There might be flying pigs.


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 05:58:05 -0800 (PST)
From: The Colonel <>
Subject: XTC & the Residents
Message-ID: <>

Glad to see there are fans of TMBG, the Pixies & Elvis
Costello here. God, I thought I was the only one.
Well, since some of you are familiar with those bands,
perhaps you know of the Residents as well. For those
who may not be, The Residents are often cited as "the
world's most famous anonymous band," as they have been
in existence for nearly 30 years, and still no one
knows their real identities. Well, I have a developing
theory on this that relates to XTC, so if anyone has
ideas about the accompanying points, please share.

Namely, the theory is that members of XTC are also
members of The Residents. There are several points
which lead me to this conclusion, so I will expound on
them here. Feel free to add, correct, change, etc.
This evidence may be entirely circumstantial, but this
has been bugging me for a while, and I'd like some
input from others familiar with the two bands ...

1. Some of the selections from XTC's Dukes Of
Stratosphear project sound EXACTLY like The Residents
tracks from that same period. Don't believe me? Listen
to the vocals & arrangements of "25 O'Clock" and "Mole
>From The Ministry", then listen to the Residents' 13th
Anniversary Show album, or one from around the same
time. Partridge does a distorted growl on "25" that
matches the Residents' "Where Is She" to a "T". And
the odd vocal effects on "Mole" could be lifted right
off of "Eskimo."

2. A pronouced dislike for organized religion is
highlighted by the music of both bands. The Residents
have their latest album, based on the Bible, and
titled "Wormwood." It points out many of the Bible's
stories that you would never hear about at Sunday
services, and takes great pride in focusing on the
hypocrisy of organized religion. Then there is, of
course, "Dear God," and the numerous lyrical
statements found in other XTC songs (Think "Your
Dictionary," "Merely A Man," the list goes on ...)

3. Similar-sounding singing voices. This point has
already been touched on a bit, but listen to The
Dukes, or some of XTC's more obscure material, then
listen to the Residents' Commercial album or Eskimo. I
can pick out Residents tracks that could be Colin as
well Andy. And the occasional Paul
McCartney-influenced voice is found in abundance on
both bands' releases. Of course we know that Andy
guested on the Commercial Album anyway (fifteen
seconds of vocals on "Margaret Freeman," but who's to
say this wasn't simply a tipping of the hat? - A clue,
as it were).

4. The Residents first-ever tour began immediately
following XTC's retirement from the road. This is
another interesting coincidence. The Residents had
been around for ten years by that point, yet suddenly
decided to tour for the first time. Maybe Andy felt
more secure to be performing anonymously? Hmmm ...

5. Both bands' willingness to create anonymous
projects. This point really sells the theory for me.
The Residents have been releasing material anonymously
for decades. During that same time, XTC and its
members have performed under such surnames as Terry &
the Lovemen, Dukes of Stratosphear, The Three Wise
Men, The Colonel, the list goes on ... What other band
in modern music has been so interested in doing this
type of thing? No one else I can think of.

6. Pronounced use of sexual imagery. The Residents and
Andy Partridge both seem to enjoy flaunting
conceptions of (particularly male) sexual imagery. The
Residents have devoted entire albums to the topic.
Andy's "Pink Thing" instantly comes to mind as a great
XTC example.

7. Routine usage of the terms "mole" and "arf" ... You
don't hear either of these words in modern rock music
very often, you have to admit. Yet both of these bands
have used them. I realize this sounds silly, but just
think about it in context with the other available

8. Partridge & the Residents each contributed projects
for John Flansburgh's Hello CD of the Month club. A
similarity of interests & styles could account for
this, but who knows?

Well, I could ramble on a lot longer about what is
probably a silly topic to begin with, but I won't. I
realize that the above could all be amazing
coincidences, or a case of one band influencing the
other, but please do give me your thoughts.

The Colonel


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:46:39 -0500
From: Brookes McKenzie <>
Subject: self/starring the wasp
Message-ID: <v04220801b4ff84fe7810@[]>

hola chalk-ones, long time no write.

with my exquisite sense of timing i decided to actually read the
latest issue and - lo and behold! - the second batch of fresh XTC is
ready to consume.  i'll probably burn my fingers, but it'll be worth
it.  since i've already gorged myself on raw demos, my appetite is
slightly less than the ravenous fiend i was becoming prior to
purchasing some AP bootlegs (*naughty* brookes - bad, evil, wicked,
naughty brookes!), but that was merely a rough and dirty fix at best.
"the man who murdered love" and "church of women" in particular make
my mouth water!

in the meantime, my flavor of the month is a band called - with
disarming simplicity - Self.  19 year old Matt Maharry dropped out of
Audio Engineering School at Middle Tennessee State University to play
all the instruments, mix and produce his first album, including
making up his own samples since he couldn't afford to buy rights to
the regular kind.  since then he recruited some people including his
brother Mike M., to play backup.

why should you care?  here are some bands he sounds like at different
times - if you like any one of them, you'll like Self:

The Mommyheads
Brendan Benson
Jellyfish (first album)
Ben Folds Five (ditto)*
Soul CoughingYY
Spookey Ruben
(a little known band called ) You Were SpiralingY
the eels (_Beautiful Freak_)

this is not even a complete list.  yet, unlike some bands i could
name (sorry Sugarplastic but it's true), he doesn't Xerox these bands
but run up to them and tap their shoulder, then turn around and book
the other way.  and he's funny as hell, which is one of my favorite
things about any band.  any guy who can write an Alanis parody that
actually works ("She's a Death Row contract/When you hate Dr. Dre" -
"Moronic") AND a song about _Titanic_ on the same album ("Hey Jack,
Hey Jack/I'm going to jump off the back/Of the Titanic/A big, big
boat") in a row is alright by me.

not only that, but the best of his music is not available by normal
means - always important for maintaining indie cred.  however, thanks
to the wonder that is Napster, you can download MP3s of his best
songs and make your own cd's.  the sparkling little gem that hooked
me?  "Paint By Numbers", which i mistakenly downloaded as it was
labeled "Weezer - ex-girlfriend", which sounds nothing like Weezer
but which grew on me until i had to get more.  it's also available on
one of his two commercial albums, _Breakfast With Girls_, or the
soundtrack to the straight-to-video teen flick _Dead Man on Campus_,
for all you squares who aren't with MP3s.  listen to this song and
tell me i'm right.  they're all good, although each one is different,
but "Paint By Numbers" is irresistable.

	blatheringly -




* - dear god, let's not start that debate again.  i will however
state for the record that i don't think anything they've come out
with has been half as good as the first (self-titled) album.  the
sheer pop deliciousness of "Philosophy" and "Best Imitation of
Myself" induced many eargasms.  anyone who doesn't remember this,
search the digests for BFF and you'll be galvanized into taking sides.

YY - that SUCKS about SC breaking up.  they were running
neck-and-neck with Cake in my esteem, but this sad news on top of the
severe ass-kicking they received from Cake's last brilliant release
_Prolonging the Magic_ causes them to slip irretrievably behind.

Y -  you may remember them from He Is Definitely A Giant John
Flansgland's Hello Records, or then again, you may not.  prog-rock by
college kids [Bard College in particular, which somehow makes it
almost okay - i saw them live and they looked like they had about 20
years between the three of them] about getting enough credits and
cutting class.  yet there was something greatly enjoyable about their
music - i can't quite put my finger on it.  they were kind of
inherently wacky, yet they tried to take themselves seriously.  and
their name was positively retarded.  for some reason this gives them
credit in my book.


my town is zoning this land
so we can build an ark and sail away from Tennessee
palm trees and sand
and Hawaiian instruments
say "aloha" as they're haunting me

	- "meg ryan", also on _breakfast with girls_


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:08:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Nick Howorth <>
Subject: Weird chords inside the green-gold mine...
Message-ID: <>

On the subject of XTC sheet music, I seem to remember
reading an interview with Andy saying that there is
none - mainly because Andy uses a lot of alternative
tunings - open E and G seem to be special favourites
particularly on Mummer and Skylarking - so he's not
actually sure what chords he's playing though he did
add that he'd be willing to sit down with some muso
type and work them out if anyone could be bothered to
stump up the time, effort and cash (presumably there's
been no flood of offers?) Any geetarists out there
struggling with stuff like the Meeting Place,
Sacrificial Bonfire, Love On a Farmboy's Wages etc.
try tuning the open strings to an open E or G chord
then play an open E chord or fret all the strings on
the same fret (one finger across them all) or
alternatively play single note melody lines on the G
string whilst letting the other strings drone on open
(unfretted) and hey presto! - instant Mummer and
Skylarking sounds! (Try Beating of Hearts and Grass
melody on G string in open E tuning) Open C and E
chords also have that 'rusticky rural' tone to them.
Hope this is of some use to guitar noodlers.  By the
way I also don't have a clue what these chords would
be transposed to 'normal' tunings - probably extremely
tricky 7 fingered augmented and suspended 'jazzy'
things. ta ta for now - Nick.


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:07:28 -0600
From: Jill Oleson <>
Subject: Check Soul Coughing site for verification of band breakup
Message-ID: <81CC73FC2FACD311A2D200508B8B88AA0D6E93@KURION_EXCH>

To verify the lamentable breakup of Soul Coughing, check:

The announcement on their home page is dated March 20, 2000.

Jill Oleson
Austin, Texas


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:56:46 -0500
From: "Michael Neustadt" <>
Subject: Re: Is there any good music out now?
Message-ID: <000101bf9512$af7084c0$>

If you love "pure" pop, you must hear Ron Flynt and the Bluehearts new
release "Big Blue Heart". Ron is the bass player and co-songwriter from the
band 20/20. Come to and see/hear for yourself or buy
it from Bruce at


Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:05:24 +1100 (EST)
From: Mud Shark <>
Subject: 2.2 cents worth including GST
Message-ID: <>

Throwing in my contribution to Molly's question,
here's what's in my CD player (or at least, what's
been in it over the past three days or so) :

"Futurama" - Be Bop Deluxe
"The Notorious Byrd Brothers" - The Byrds
"So Much Water, So Close To Home" - Paul Kelly
"Riding With The King" - John Hiatt
"The Battle Of Los Angeles" - Rage Against The Machine
"Apple Venus Vol.1" - XTC
"Rock Bottom" - Robert Wyatt
"Heyday" - The Church
"Strictly Commercial" - Frank Zappa
"Sketches Of Spain" - Miles Davis
"Tallulah" - The Go-Betweens
"Chairs Missing" - Wire
"Pet Sounds" - Beach Boys
"The Smoker You Drink, The Player You Get" - Joe Walsh
"Monkey Island" - J.Geils Band
"The Black Rider" - Tom Waits
"Two Against Nature" - Steely Dan (another fine
Chalkhills recommendation)
"The Man Who" - Travis

Whaddya mean, I've got too much time on my hands?


(...and a happy birthday to my fellow April Fool,
Francis Heaney).

"I rail against God because I was told to stop eating paste in Sunday
school" - P.J.O'Rourke


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:09:52 EST
Subject: Other good music out there
Message-ID: <>

Digitalmaster asked, so I too must put in my two cents:

Having known nothing from the Kinks except You Really Got Me, Lola,
Come Dancing, and the other big singles, I heartily, heartily, OH SO
HEARTILY have five Kinks albums to recommend, which I've dived into
over the past three months with almost uninterrupted relish, every XTC
fan will enjoy getting Kinktified, methinks:

Will's Must Owns By The Kinks

1. Something Else
2. The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society
3. Arthur or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire
4. Part 1 Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround
5. Muswell Hillbillies

I'd start with Something Else, and it escalates from there. I'd say I
personally prefer Village Green Preservation Society (Not
"Preservation Acts 1 or 2" which are also two Kinks albums that
apparently aren't as good as these), Arthur and Lola versus
Powerman. All three are absolutely essential in my opinion. It's been
great -- as the Beatles and XTC are two of my very favorite bands, I
thought I'd heard all the major artists at that caliber -- but I'm
here to tell you, The Kinks got it goin' on, big time. Something Else
and Muswell are also excellent, just not quite up to the level of
Village Green, Arthur, and Lola in my opinion. I also own Face to
Face, which is often mentioned as one of the "Mighty 6" albums from
the Kinks (it preceeded Something Else"), but I gotta admit it doesn't
do as much for me as these five do.

Kevin Diamond, remember how we both discovered Blur about five or six
months ago? Behold the mightiness of the Kinks, they're in the game,
and in some ways helped invent it -- Ray Davies is one serious
talent. And Dave Davies is an incredibly underrated guitar player --
reminds me of DG. And Mick Avory on drums, serious rhythm

If you're not yet familiar with the Kinks, those five albums,
especially the middle three, will make the next two months of waiting
pure bliss. And there may be more, but I haven't ventured into any
others yet. If anyone has any other good kinks recommendations, let me
know, as the reviews and such get a little spotty after Muswell, and
their catalog is huge...

Best, Will

Good gravy, people have already got copies of Wasp Star? You lucky
bastards, I'm so green with envy that one of my coworkers just passed
by my desk and said, "Hi Kermit"...


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:28:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Molly Fanton <>
Subject: How do I get a copy
Message-ID: <>

Since our firend, Mitch got his copy of WS, how many other lucky
people got an advanced copy, and are there any ways to get an advanced
copy.  Do you have to hob nob with the boys or something?  I'm just
curious, since I have more money that when when AV1 came out.  Hey if
there's a Japanese copy I'll order one. :P


Molly's Pages

	[ ]


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:44:03 -0800
From: Richard Pedretti-Allen <>
Subject: Mayan and yours
Message-ID: <l03130302b5004d0ef6dd@[]>

What I intended to say was that "Wasp Star" is the Mayan term for the
PLANET  Venus  (I don't know why I wrote "goddess"  ...I had just FINISHED
reading the text about Mayan stargazers).

In any event,  we can really put the "other interpretations" subject to
rest because I didn't know what it meant and I asked Andy (as in
Partridge).  He was the one who told me the Mayan link and I surfed the web
to find out more.

Richard "There might be flying pigs" Pedretti-Allen


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:15:31 -0500
From: arthur james virgin <>
Subject: must resist...must resist...DELURK!
Message-ID: <>

Greetings fellow chalkies...

subscriber for *years* first post in *years*...

getting dangerously close to AV2 (the one I wanted first!) and decided to
delurk temporarily for a few things.


i've ordered AV2 from Japan, it'll probably get here this fall.

i can't resist the "What's in Your Player" thingy because i rely on lists
like these to provide great tips for other musical ideas...

Belle & Sebastian : Lazy Line Painter Jane
Michael Penn : mp4
The Posies : Amazing Disgrace
Elvis Costello : Imperial Bedroom
Unbelievable Truth : Almost There
Tim Finn : Say It Is So
Trip Shakespeare: Are You Shakespearienced?
Old97's : Fight Songs
Radiohead : OK Computer
Crowded House : AfterGlow
XTC : Transistor Blast Disc One
Quasi: Field Studies

****Back to Delurk Mode****



Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:33:44 +0100
From: Johan Ekdahl <>
Subject: He Who Hesitates
Message-ID: <> wrote:
>Hey, think of "Seagulls Screaming, Kiss Her Kiss Her"!  It's the most
>amazing song on that topic, ever.

Might be. On the other hand, on another day...

  Jump jump go ahead and jump jump
  If it's what your heart is wanting to do



Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:23:39 -0500
From: Steve <>
Subject: music for XTC fans
Message-ID: <>

Wes asked:
> What are all you freaks listenin' to?

Well, besides AV1, here's what I've been listening to. These are all highly
recommended, & should appeal to most fans of XTC, imo.

Kevin Gilbert - Shaming of the True
Owsley - s/t
Prefab Sprout - Jordan: the Comeback
Mike Viola & the Candybutchers - Falling into Place
Brian Stevens - Prettier than you
Apples in Stereo - Her Wallpaper Reverie
Tal Bachman - s/t
Cherry Twister - At Home with Cherry Twister
Crack the Sky - Best of the Rest
Josh Clayton-Felt - Inarticulate Nature Boy
High Llamas - Hawaii
Imperial Drag - s/t
Jellyfish - New Mistake EP
Material Issue - Freak City Soundtrack
Eric Matthews - Lateness of the Hour
Posies - Success
Rubinoos - Paleophonic
Sneetches - Blow Out the Sun
Velvet Crush - Teenage Symphonies to God
Wondermints - Bali
Yazbek - Laughing Man & Tock
Cleaners from Venus/Martin Newell - all of them!

...and here's some that are not necessarily XTC-like, but sound great:
Flower Kings - Alive on Planet Earth
Bjorn Lynne - Revive
Djam Karet - Devouring
Camel - On the Road 1972
Queensryche - Q2K
Porcupine Tree - Stupid Dream



Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:40:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Jon Rosenberger <>
Subject: The True Meaning of "W.A.S.P. S.T.A.R."
Message-ID: <>

Like the cover of Abbey Road and the Paul is Dead theory.

I bring you ....

The Unmasking of Wasp Star!!!!!!

You are all wrong it has nothing to do with Insects or Caucasian
Non-Catholics or Mayan god ascribed planets, it's a thinly veiled
message from Andy to us here on Chalkhills. Using my Little Annie
Oakley Decoder Ring I have cracked the code and reveal to you all

The True Meaning of Wasp Star is......(Drumroll Please)........

W ankers
A nxiously
S eeking
P op

S ounds
T aking
R oundabout

Cheers all and remember "Drink More Ovaltine!"

The Mole
(very amused with his own wit, even if noone else is)
at the Ministry


Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:37:41 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: ...with hilarious consequences!
Message-ID: <>

>>When last we spoke, the high Spawnstress was totally
>>set upon the complete destruction of the 'Hill! As I
>>recollect, it had something to do with "Them Damn Monkey Folkel!"

...and how we laughed!

Far be it from me to accuse anyone of being off-topic, but am I the
only person who finds this twat painfully unfunny? The one off-list
mail I received from him, apparently (and I'm only guessing here)
chastising me for being rude to David Oh (guilty as charged, point
taken etc), made even less sense than the drivel he posts to the

Still, it probably helps him pass the time between wanks.



Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:43:57 EST
Subject: Re: star rules
Message-ID: <>

In a message dated 03/22/2000 11:41:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<> writes:

> they knew it sure as hell didn't behave like the other
>  stars. It looks like a star, but it doesn't act like one. It doesn't move
>  the same way, or follow the same rules.

You might even say it buzzed around the night sky like a.....yes, like a wasp.

Couldn't resist.



Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:04:49 EST
Subject: getting my fill
Message-ID: <>

 Now that I ve got my grubby paws on "Playground" the final version, Ive been
able to listen 10 times or so. WOWEE! Mitch was right.
 Isaw the VH1 show "The List" where the "celebrity" mentions Dear God as a
rebel song. I believe his quote was--" The funny thing is ,the guy who wrote
it is a religious guy" . Another big fan.
 Waiting for the rest of Wasp Star & Phils hat, Roger


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:14:12 -0500
From: Rob Hill <>
Subject: Re: What I call that noise
Message-ID: <>

>> What are all you freaks listenin' to?

My, what a lovely bandwagon.

Cardiacs - Sing to God
Bartok - Concerto for Orchestra, Music for Strings, Percussion, &
The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Tom Waits - Swordfishtrombone
XTC - Big Express
Charles Mingus - New Tijuana Moods
Billie Holiday - The Quintessential Volume 4
Frank Zappa - We're Only in It For the Money
Debussy - La Mer
Alice in Chains - Dirt
Frank Sinatra - Sings the Select Johnny Mercer
The Genius of Orson Welles (radio broadcasts)



Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:21:51 -0500
From: "Cheryl" <>
Subject: Mmm Mmm Good
Message-ID: <001d01bf9548$7b6d2e40$>

Hello Chalkhills,

Long time no hear...from me.

Hope everyone is well.

I noticed the discussion on the availability of good music.  A couple of
bands I need to recommend are Travis, who haven't won two(?) Brit awards for
nothing, and a local Boston band that I just adore, The Sheila Divine.  If
you can get a hold of their album, I highly recommend them.  They have a
great edge to their music and the lead singer can do some of the vocal
acrobatics that remind me of early Partridge, circa Drums and Wires.

I can't wait for the new XTC album to come out.  I have been a very good
girl and have been patiently waiting to hear any new material when the new
album comes out.  Apple Venus Vol. 1 was experienced by having heard all
songs previous through rough demos and now I am trying the route of being
patient.  Had it been any longer waiting for the new album, I may have
broken down and begged for the newer demos but I *think* I can make it.

Take care chalkfolks,


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:32:09 -0800
From: "Mike Martis" <>
Subject: CSNY, POO, Nick Drake
Message-ID: <00f701bf9530$c66d8ba0$0874fea9@mmartis>

I want to add a very large exclamation point to Michael Versaci's post
regarding his recent CSN&Y concert experience. I had seen CSN a few times
over the past dozen years or so, and while they were always rather pleasant
to see, my expectations for the CSNY tour stop here in Sacramento were not,
um, grandiose. Well, shee-it! What an experience, indeed...I have a newfound
(additional) appreciation for Neil Young, because he just *drove* the other
three to jaw-dropping, goose bump levels. It was one of those handful of
shows that you realize, in the midst of, you'll be remembering for life.

Moving on to XTC content: Regarding the Wasp Star song lineup, I was hoping
that Prince of Orange would magically pop up on this record. Damn! Guess
I'll keep waiting...

Also, for those who like the snippet of Nick Drake's "Pink Moon" on the
Volkswagen spot, his four-CD anthology box set has proven to be one of my
favorite purchases of the past year, full of sparse, moody and enchanting
acoustic folk/pop.



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