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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 47

                 Thursday, 23 March 2000

Today's Topics:

              Guess what Im listening to...
          semi-private notes to Mitch and Garret
           Re: Is there any good music out now?
                      Re: Wasp Star
                RE: What I call that noise
             More Mayan Astronomy & Wasp Star
                   11 DIFFERENT ANIMALS
                   XTC and Space Ghost
                Change in Listening Party
     Good music exists... oh and a happy bday to me.
                      Humble Daisies
                  Isn't it XTCiting!!!!
                 Greetings From Fintasia!
                         ye gads!
                 Plastic changer coughing
           wasp star mentioned in ice magazine!
                   I love Wayne Newton
           RE: Is There Any Good Music Out Now?
           Seagulls Screaming, "Love and XTC!"


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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:05:50 EST
Subject: Guess what Im listening to...
Message-ID: <>

Hey Hills,
  Gee, whats this playing on my CD player? Why it sounds like But
it cant be, the albums not out yet. O.K. ,its only "Playground" ,but its new
and  its all mine. Is this any way for a 38 year old to act. Can you say


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:39:49 -0600
From: Jill Oleson <>
Subject: semi-private notes to Mitch and Garret
Message-ID: <81CC73FC2FACD311A2D200508B8B88AA0D6E8C@KURION_EXCH>

So, Mitch, when you say, "Yup, it's amazing!",
are you really saying that you've got a pre-release disc
in your grubby little paws and you've listened to the thing
about 27 times already?

And when you say. "I will say no more", are you really telling
us "Nah-nah, nah-nah, nah-nah?"

You great-big tease...

     Jill Oleson
     Austin, Texas

     Oh, and I fully agree with Garret Harkawik that the break up
     of Soul Coughing is terribly sad news.  Of all the new bands
     I've tried in recent years, Soul Coughing was the only one
     I became addicted to.  So brilliant, so creative, so long...


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:41:06 EST
Subject: Re: Is there any good music out now?
Message-ID: <>

In a message dated 3/22/00 8:03:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
<> writes:

> I hate waiting for good albums to come out.  I have to wait to April to get
>  the new (greatest hits) Cracker CD, and I have been waiting impatiently for
>  my copy of the Storefront Hitchcock video, the new Devo release, as well as
>  AV2.  Is there anything new that XTC fans would recommend?  My tastes vary,
>  but overall, my favorite groups are the above mentioned and groups like
>  TMBG, Costello and the Pixies.

If you don't have anything by the Posies, their greatest hits just came out
this past Tuesday.  Good stuff.
Phil C.


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:33:14 -0500
From: Dorothy Spirito <>
Subject: Re: Wasp Star
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.00.10003231125000.10598-100000@esun2028>

Mario Beaulac offered:
> I'm wondering, on the other hand, if it's been suggested that "Wasp
> Star" might refer to those euphemistic asterisks that find their way in
> print in "family papers" and the like (for such loaded words as "sh*t",
> "f*ck" or "Dear G*d", fer exemple).

I don't know; "Dingbat" has a certain ring to it...   : )



Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:20:41 -0600
From: "Wiencek, Dan" <>
Subject: RE: What I call that noise
Message-ID: <>

Wes asked:

> Molly asked what was in our disc players.....I rather like this question.
> What are all you freaks listenin' to?
What can I say ... I'm a sucker for this stuff too.

Currently in rotation:

Me'Shell Ndegeocello, "Bitter"
Magnetic Fields, "69 Love Songs" (brilliant--get this!)
Everything But the Girl, "Temperamental"
Janis Joplin, "Pearl" (from the Box of Pearls set)
Latin Playboys, "Dose"
Our lads, "Homespun"

Any other recent recommendations are much appreciated.



Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:54:42 -0600
From: "Jerry Kaelin" <>
Subject: More Mayan Astronomy & Wasp Star
Message-ID: <>

Greetings, People of the Chalk-Horse!

"The Maya, like the Mesopotamians of the First Babylonian Dynasty (c.
1829-1530 BC) knew that Venus completes five runs through its 584-day
cycle in eight solar years.  At the end of eight years, the same
configuration of Venus is transported back to the same calendar date.
This means, for example, that Venus will first appear as a morning
star on the same date it appeared as morning star eight years
before....The long term accuracy of the table is
extraordinary....Armed with the relationship between the solar
caldendar and Venus cycles, the May didn't stop with eight years and
five rounds of Venus.  The wanted Venus to match up with their 260-day
ritual callendar, too, and that meant going through more cycles.  And
they did, with an accuracy of plus or minus two hours every 481

(How long between Nonesuch and Apple Venus 2?)

"These intricate caluculations were not performed as part of a
scientific investigation of the motion of Venus.  Instead they were
inteded to help Maya prognosticators interpret omens based upon their
calendar and the behavior of Venus.  The installed their kings,
sacrificed prisoners, and went to war by thos omens.  They were not
watching a planet--but a god."

("Then she appeared, Apple Venus..." -- and we can't wait!)

from "Beyond the Blue Horizen: Myths and Legends of the Sun, Moon and
Planets" by Dr. E.C. Krupp of LA's Griffith Observatory and a monthly
contributor to "Sky & Telescope" magazine

Jerry Kaelin / Chicago


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:37:50 +0100
Message-ID: <>

... for anyone who's interested, I've just put a copy of the XTC
Songbook 11 Different Animals in the Chalkhills classifieds, check it




Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:51:58 -0800
From: "Wes Hanks" <>
Subject: anniversary
Message-ID: <000001bf9472$d00a9400$25b59fce@default>

Dear Great Aunt Nora,

We just celebrated our 18th wedding anniversary and were thrilled to receive
your lovely gift of "Wasp Star" by XTC you so thoughtfully sent.

Stupidly Fucking Happy,
Your Great Nephew


Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:02:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Molly Fanton <>
Subject: Nevermind
Message-ID: <>

I posted about changing the listening party, nevermind I did have it
tonight.  Sorry about that.  I'm going to name the rest of the
listening partys xtclisteningparty though.  Next Wednesday's party is
"Big Express".  For more intormation go to:


Molly's Pages


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:05:10 -0600
Subject: XTC and Space Ghost
Message-ID: <>

Hello all,

I recently read (I forget where), that XTC was going to
appear on an episode of Space Ghost on the Cartoon Network.
If this is true, has it aired yet?  If it hasn't, does
anyone know when it will be shown?




Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:01:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Molly Fanton <>
Subject: Change in Listening Party
Message-ID: <>

There has been a change in the XTC Listening Party after finding out
there is a chat room on Talk City already called, Mummer.  So
tonight's chat has been postponed, and I was thinking this Saturday
doing it.  I was going to have a Talk Talk listening party that day,
but I'm thinking of bagging that for this one.  So how does Saturday
night at 10pm EST sound?  If you have any problems please e-mail me.
The name of the listening party will just be xtclisteningparty
(hopefully that'll work) if not I'll let you know.  So I'll post
everything on my web site.  Sorry about the inconvenience.


Molly's Pages


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:07:14 -0800 (PST)
From: nross <>
Subject: Good music exists... oh and a happy bday to me.
Message-ID: <>

I took out all the curse words I originally wanted in my subject

Digitalmaster asked if there is good music out there? New stuff?

YES YES YES, there is.

Buy ANY CD from Belle and Sebastian.

The Boy with the Arab Strap is very very nice.
Sinister is wonderful.

I'm sure Tigersmilk (?) is great, too.

I think they'll be having a new record out soon... but they do have a
new "boxset" out of old singles and Boy with the Arab Strap is fairly

Its a damn good band, my friends.

Sorry, no XTC in the post today.
Just responding to a question.

Nicole's internet music station:


Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:43:33 EST
Subject: Humble Daisies
Message-ID: <>

In a message dated 3/22/00 7:42:57 PM, <>

<< I hate waiting for good albums to come out.  I have to wait to April to get
the new (greatest hits) Cracker CD, and I have been waiting impatiently for
my copy of the Storefront Hitchcock video, the new Devo release, as well as
AV2.  Is there anything new that XTC fans would recommend?  My tastes vary,
but overall, my favorite groups are the above mentioned and groups like
TMBG, Costello and the Pixies.

I don't get to spend much time with this list, but I must recommend Eels new
one, "Daisies of the Galaxy" ... just unreal.
In the meantime I patiently await the new XTC ... and for those who I see
occassionally pine for a tour, to quote Tony Soprano "fahggetttabait"

Back to busy lurking,


Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:28:57 PST
From: "Edward Sizzorhends" <>
Subject: Isn't it XTCiting!!!!
Message-ID: <>

Oh Dear Dwellers in Chalk,

Isn't it exciting??

These first sightings,
an article here, a scant picture there,
a little note from Mitch

As we get closer the blood really flows doesn't it.
(right to your ears)

I want this to be good because
it makes me feel like a little kid again

I know I'll be there the second it's available to buy
and my hands will shake as I unwrap my copy...

I'll put the headphones on for the first listen
I always do),
have a "smoke"
and just let it wash over me.

I swear, the other day i put on AVI and I was BOWLED OVER once again. The
lows, the highs = my oh my - it was.....heaven. (if you haven't done this in
a while, put it on and REALLY LISTEN.)

Then I am sure I will get real anal and buy a vinyl copy and a cassette copy
for the car(truck). Then I'll make a reeel with both AVI and WASP STAR

Ahh but you know, that's what being a fan is all about!

It's so exciting.

The Skylar King


Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:10:31 CST
From: "vee tube" <>
Subject: Greetings From Fintasia!
Message-ID: <>

      When last we spoke, the high Spawnstress was totally
  set upon the complete destruction of the 'Hill! As I recollect,
  it had something to do with "Them Damn Monkey Folkel!"

             (I think she was pissed)

   I posted then that I would use my considerable spawning
abilities to distract her. I'm happy to report that she has now
reconsidered and, no thanks to my incredibly huge dorsal, the
'Hill will be allowed to continue!

   Why? (see above) also,the 'Hate' speech seems to have abated,
and yet, at once and at the same time,(in a contiguous manner)
She seems to be amused by the antics of the 'Monkey Folkel'

   In particular,the whole Orgone thing made her 'Drop an Egg'
Fortunately I was able to fertilize it before any human mutants
came near.

    So rest peacefully dear 'Hillers. All is well.


P.S. For XTC

     For Eels

     For me,



Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:21:23 -0800 (PST)
From: nross <>
Subject: ye gads!
Message-ID: <>

Okay... one more post and then I'll disappear.

Gawd... one more thing about Wasp Star (so old, so old by now I'm
ashamed even to put this up).

WASP STAR... I first thought of the acronym, okay? Typical America I
am, though I'm not Anglo-Saxon protestant.

If you get bored enough to do an idiot's search for Andy Partridge's
email address (really, I was only bored and feeling like being
ridiculous) you'll find some nice addresses for Andy Partridge, the
White Master.

Probably not a very safe thing to name your album WASP STAR when there
is a white supremist out there with your name. Ignorant people in one
of your best markets could get confused. At the same time, it is kind
of funny, don't you think... especially considering one of XTC's albums
(as you all know) is titled White Music.

For those curious... I found no addresses under Colin Moulding (I'm
telling you, I was bored, really!!!)

Nicole's internet music station:


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:15:17 -0500
Subject: Plastic changer coughing
Message-ID: <000c01bf9486$cb60a3e0$a0e37ad1@default>

Drew announced:
> A new Sugarplastic CD is due out soon.

<SFX: squeal of delight>  Finally!  Any more info on that?  Label, title,
release date, who the new drummer is...?

Wes asked:
> What are all you freaks listenin' to?

You really want to know?  Okay.  In the changer currently:
The Posies, "Frosting on the Beater"
The Kinks, "Kinda Kinks"
Todd Rundgren, "A Wizard, a True Star"
The Loud Family, "Days for Days"
Margaret Leng Tan, "The Art of the Toy Piano"
Robyn Hitchcock, "A Star for Bram" (outtakes from "Jewels for Sophia", and
much more adventurous -- and hence better -- than "Jewels for Sophia" as

And Garret yelped:
> I can't believe it! Soul Coughing is no longer a band!! They've split

Well, hm, that would be bad.  Where did you read that (or can anyone else

-- Francis

"You'd be a lovely person if you were someone else."
   -- Robyn Hitchcock


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:47:01 -0500
From: Danny Phipps <>
Subject: wasp star mentioned in ice magazine!
Message-ID: <>

hey all,

thought you might find this interesting --

the latest issue of ice magazine mentions the following:

> although they laid dormant for much of the '90s, xtc's andy partridge
> and colin moulding sprang back to life at the end of 1998 with the re-
> lease of transistor blast, a 4-cd live box from the bbc.  last year saw
> tvt issue two xtc discs:  the orchestral / acoustic mix of apple venus
> (volume one), followed quickly by homespun, the demos for that
> album.  with wasp star, the group has once again gone electric.  in a
> press statement, partridge enthuses, "i've made a lot of records in my
> career, and this is one of the good ones."
> the tracks:  "playground," "stupidly happy," "in another life," "my brown
> guitar," "boarded up," "i'm the man who murdered love," "we're all light,"
> "standing in for joe," "wounded horse," "you and the clouds," "church of
> women." and "the wheel and the maypole."

wow!!  sounds like a winner already, eh?  cannot wait!!!!!

looks like it won't be long now...


"i would have made this instrumental, but
 the words got in the way."  (andy partridge)


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:32:02 -0000
From: "Smith, David" <>
Subject: I love Wayne Newton
Message-ID: <802EE5D7277AD21188D10008C728D44803255CA3@TFSECMSG02>

OK, time to satisfy my lust for attention via the randon posting method.

First up, wasps. In this country they're little insects that sting you
if you're dumb enough to get in their way. John Boudreau, most
"whites" (nice) in YOUR world might think otherwise - but speaking as
a White Anglo Saxon, it has never crossed my mind, and now it's a
"hot" subject on the digest . . . well, to be honest it still
doesn't. Could we all please stop navel-gazing regarding this title -
it's becoming really tedious!

Although . . . :-) . . . if Wasp Star does mean those little asterisks
in words like f*ck and sh*t, why didn't Andy call it W*sp St*r?

Third, currently playing in the Smith sockets:

PC at work: Jordan (The Comeback) - Prefab Sprout
Discman: Black Sea (almost endlessly at the mo)
Front room stereo (3 CD changer - wooo hooo!): Gaucho - Steely Dan (I know,
I know . . but I LOVE it); Violator - Depeche Mode; The Colour of Spring
(Talk Talk)
Bedroom: Out ot The Blue (ELO)
Car: yeah, like I can afford a car with a CD! If I could, perfect
music for singing at the top of yer voice while driving - anything by
Stevie Wonder (excpet the obvious . . .)

BTW, who the h*ll is Wayne Newton?

Ta ta, off to colour this old brown town Gold!



Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:10:31 -0800
From: "d. Taylor Singletary" <>
Subject: RE: Is There Any Good Music Out Now?
Message-ID: <>

Well, I haven't been on the list for awhile, but your post spoke to me.
My answer is yes. The past 6 years or so have been great for music.
Here's some highlights:
Tortoise's TNT & Millions Now Living Will Never Die
To me, TNT is the best album in the entire universe. Beyond that even. This
is fully instrumental ingeniousness, that can only be heard and uncomparable
to anything in my eyes. I feel that Apple Venus and TNT have a bond to them
in some way, but I can't place how.
Neutral Milk Hotel's Aeroplane Over the Sea
One of the best folkpopfuzz albums ever made. The words are great. The
singing is great. The songs are great. Buy this and be very pleased.
Olivia Tremor Control's Black Foilage & Dusk @ Cubist Castle
60s pop-psychedelia ... on acid. You haven't heard pop songs this good,
their so good it seems like fantasy, and OTC recognizes this, and is
unafraid to shatter your dreams.
The new Eels album is very good.
Jim O'Rourke's Eureka and Halfway to a Threeway are superb! The man is a
song genius.
Sam Prekop's self-titled. Sea & the Cake's The Fawn. Flaming Lips' Soft
Bulletin. Godspeed You Black Emperor. Beck's last few records. [All of them
in fact].
Air's Moon Safari is one of the best of its kind.
Stereolab's Emperor Tomato Ketsup is a must own.

I guess thats it for me right now.

d. Taylor Singletary


Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:34:16 -0800
From: "Drew MacDonald" <>
Subject: Various
Message-ID: <006301bf9489$6dfa16c0$>

A gaggle of responses to the last Digest:

"Digitalmaster" asked:
>Is there anything new that XTC fans would recommend?  My tastes vary, but
overall, my favorite groups are the above mentioned and groups like TMBG,
Costello and the Pixies.<

Here's one that you probably have never heard of, but it should fit your
tastes: BRAIN PERM by Starclock. Highly recommended to Hillers in general. I
won't bother to describe their sound, since there are plenty of Starclock
mp3s at :


"awa" asserted:
>let's face it, the biggest WASP star was elvis presley and he's definitely

Hate to keep this thread going, but no. Elvis was a "cracker" through and
through. The connotation of WASP as a pejorative always refers to patrician,
middle- and upper-class types.


Kevin Diamond confessed:
>... I felt like MY head was on a choppin block. and then I got to the
chorus, and It made me realize that, yes, the process of being 16 years old
and trying to ask a girl out may be horrible, but it's worth it if the
answer is a yes.
and it is. and it was. and I have a date this weekend.<

Take it from an old guy: asking a girl out is ALWAYS worth it, even if the
answer is no. You learn that such rejection is not the end of the world, and
it helps you develop "immunity" for the next time.


Thanks to Jon Rosenberger for the link to the TVT ad with the WASP STAR
cover, but I sure hope that's not the final version. Virtually "none more

np: the Volkswagen commercial that uses Nick Drake's "Pink Moon."


Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:27:19 +0100
Subject: Seagulls Screaming, "Love and XTC!"
Message-ID: <0006800022052758000002L082*@MHS>

Hi "Kreideberger", hi Kevin,

As has happened several times in the past, a post from Kevin Diamond
has proved to be the highlight of an issue of Chalkhills.  Way to go,

Once, when I was 16, I was involved in a group dominated by 35-50 year
old men, and as Kevin is here, and I was quite active in that group,
as Kevin is here.  And, in one of my numerous posts, I said something
they all thought was clever, and then one of them said, "Out of the
mouths of babes comes wisdom."

I wasn't sure then if I liked being called a "babe" -- since I was
struggling to gain entry and acceptance in a group of much older guys,
and wanted to be considered "one of them", not just a "kid" -- but
"time wounds all heels" or something like that, and looking back on it
now, I think it was a genuine compliment.  And one I never forgot, on
top of that.

So, Kevin, "Out of the mouths of babes comes wisdom."  You did it
right, my friend.  And, once you reach the next phase, when you really
start dreaming about this girl and you know in your bones that she's
the one for you (who knows, maybe after your date this weekend?), but
despite all of that, somehow you find you're stuck again and don't
know why, and you can't seem to do what you feel you have to do...
Hey, think of "Seagulls Screaming, Kiss Her Kiss Her"!  It's the most
amazing song on that topic, ever.

He who hesitates is lost!

Sometimes, life really can be good.

- Jeff


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