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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 45

                  Friday, 17 March 2000

Today's Topics:

                     XTC Sheet Music
Wasp Star - The best title ever in the free world ever - EVER
                        XTC on DVD
                     U2 & XTC on VH1.
                   and the emmy goes to
                     A few Ramblings
                       Baz Andrews
         XTC online radio, plus Austin Chalkfest
                    *Can* buy a thrill
                    Some recognition?
                       Hello again!
                      Gilbert LIVES
        because it is easier to say than "Xux ek"
                 Adventure Club Sessions
                   XTC On Video Update
Chips From MY Chocolate Fireball...Or Hello it's me Part Three
                   Re: 20-20 Hindsight
                  Countdown To XTCeeeee


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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 22:51:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: PUH-LEEEZE!
Message-ID: <>

it seems to me that Andy's
penchant for sabotaging his own success may be evident
in the choice of this title, mainly because it will
alienate your casual white anglo-saxon buyer by the
title, since WASP does have negative connotations in
the US.

ok, ok, i'm growing weary of the Wasp Star debate,
too, but that comment above is rediculous enough to
warrent a rebuttal.
I truly believe that most people, if they see the word
'Wasp', will think of a bug that flies around
occasionally stinging things. Depending on the cover
art, I really don't think most people would think
of'Wasp' as a white-anglo-saxon-prodestant , in this
case.  Besides, wasp as a derogatory racial term isn't
that offensive. I have never met anyone who felt the
slightest bit insulted by that term (although it
hasn't come up all that often). Maybe they could call
it "Honkey Star".

Although, thinking of that other definition, I think
that Wayne Newton is about the biggest wasp star


Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:16:36 EST
Subject: XTC Sheet Music
Message-ID: <>

Hello Clan,

I have spent considerable time seeking out music director stores, and the
like, searching under *X* for XTC Sheet music.  My interests lie in sheet
music for drums, but could contain guitars, piano, bass, and drums, etc...

First, does anyone know if indeed sheet music from the boys exists?

Second, are there any members of the digest who know of (retail) locations
wherein XTC sheet music can be purchased?

Lastly, in the alternative, is there someone who owns XTC Sheet music that I
could get copies of?

Please e-mail me off list if there is any information to be had.

Best regards,
John Gardner


Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:00:43 PST
From: "Edward Sizzorhends" <>
Subject: Wasp Star - The best title ever in the free world ever - EVER
Message-ID: <>

Dear Chalkhillians,

Are we really this silly?

XTC is using this title because it causes this kind of discussion and talk.
It gets people saying,"Wasp Star, that sounds pretty cool what the hell is
it?"  And it certainly seems like a good idea to distinguish this from AVI
in terms of people (read DJ's) getting a different experience on this album
than on AVI.

Remember, as of now the full title is "Wasp Star:Apple Venus Volume II"

The name of the game is "charting."  Art is fine. Treading the difficult
line of art/commerce is hard. Going after commerce alone is "selling out."

I think all us die hards would have loved it from the start if we had gotten
what Andy wanted in the first place: A set of double cd's with both sets of
songs on it together.

We are so far up the bands news ass that we got our hopes up that this would
happen. Well remember, we are uncommon fans. The regular people who like XTC
didn't know this whole plan.  Hell, they all thought AVI was their
"comeback" album.

Take a look at it from outside the "Hill."  XTC has put out a beautiful
album in AVI and what do you know, 1 year later, they are about to release
ANOTHER album. WOW. Cool. Most bands I like take forever.

Basically the bottom line is - This is a better way to go on their part. And
that's what we want for them really, isn't it?

Of course, I am not of the persuasion that this list should stick to
strictly XTC content.  It seems necessary that other topics related would
come up since this is a DISCUSSION list.

Also, I AM of the persusion that all these long posters just like to hear
themselves type. Me included.

Sorry if these thoughts sound random.  I am trying to develop my "Larry
King" style of writing.

The Skylar King

P.S. - Ate at Spago's the other night. Say, how about that Debbie Reynolds.
Spike Lee's movies get me going!


Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:25:54 -0500
From: David A Komjathy <>
Subject: XTC on DVD
Message-ID: <>


	A very generous gift was given to me the other day, a music
magazine on DVD, featuring a segment with our boys. Entitled "Shave
and a Haircut with XTC" it features about a 20 minute interview with
Andy and Colin, who are having their haircut while doing the 'view in
an LA barbershop. They talk mostly of making AV1, what the songs mean;
nothing we probably didn't already know. The highlight for me is
listening to Colin talk, since to me he is what XTC is all about, and
since he usually doesn't get a word in edgewise.
	The name of the DVD is "Circuit, Issue 2". It's very well made
and has " for promotional use only" emblazoned on it. Anyone else
heard of it?



Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:43:08 -0800
From: "Digitalmaster" <>
Subject: U2 & XTC on VH1.
Message-ID: <000701bf8f90$9f355b80$0200a8c0@digitalpc>

Whats this about Wasp Star being racist?  I have never heard such a thing!
I just scrolled through the last messages, maybe I missed something, but I
highly doubt there is any racial meanings regarding Wasp Star.  Nor were
there any racial statements made with "White Music" which Andy mentions in
"Song Stories" is named after "White Noise" which is that hissy sound you
hear over transistor radios and stereos.

I saw U2's "Legends" on VH1.  God, what a dissapointment.  I mean, I have
nothing againsts artists who change, we all change.  There are many artists
I loved in the 80's that now sound nothing like they did back then and I
still love their music.  However, U2, is a big exception.  They totally
suck.  Last I heard from them was the JT.  After that they went from being
one of my favorite groups, to being my lease favorite groups in the 90's,
just above Hole and NSYNC...

So, whats with the XTC Legends???  I think they deserve it.  Anyone hear if
they are doing something for XTC?  I have a few Gigs on my PC waiting to
record a 90 Minute special (ok, I will still accept 60 Minutes, but it will
have to be comercial free!)

Oh, as mentioned earlier, I have a 12" of Dear God/Toys in Mint condition.
Its a radio promo and I wanted to see if anyone is interested in trading
something for it or buying it.  I would prefer a trade, but I will sell it.
Let me know.  Oh, I just recently sold some stuff on ebay and got a message
from someone who thought Nonsuch was XTC's last album.  WHAT???  I thought
AV1 had ok promotion.  At least enough to make the fans notice.  I hope
AV2/Wasp Star/Whatever gets good promotion and goes Platnium.


Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:17:01 -1000
From: "Jim Smart" <>
Subject: and the emmy goes to
Message-ID: <>
Organization: 3Tripper

>The 70's and 80's bands which were recounted in an earlier digest should
>Edwin Starr
>Mazzy Star
>The Rythmn Allstars
>The Honeydrippers
>and of course the Buzzcocks.....

and of course, Sting, who I'll be seeing in concert next month. Not
out of any great enthusiasm, but more because it's pretty slim
pickings here in Hawaii for concerts....



Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:44:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Molly Fanton <>
Subject: A few Ramblings
Message-ID: <>

Well, I was happy to see a few more people joining my listening party.
I've decided to leave it on Wednesday nights, because I like
Wednesdays.  This next listening party is for XTC's album, Mummer.
For more details go to:  I hope
even more people show up.  I hope the people like Janis, John (Dins)
and some of the old AOLers can show up.  I'd like to see you guys
again.  I miss the fun we had.

Wasp Star is a wonderful name, and if anybody takes the word Wasp as a
racial comment should just get real.  I really doubt Andy meant
anything.  This discussion brings back memories of one time I had an
AOL Listening Party for White Music and all these people came in
accusing us of being racists.  I don't have the album anymore, but if
I had it, I would never do another listening party for it.  So people
take things too seriously.  And don't make me tell you of the chat on
IRC I had where I got banned from (this was a chat I started).  These
druggies decided to take over the chat.  That was NOT a good time.


I was wondering what you people have in your CD players.  Well, I have
in my CD-ROM I have A Sides & B Sides by Talk Talk, in my 3 disc CD
player I have Big Express - XTC, Shock Treatment soundtrack and
Running With Scissors - "Weird" Al Yankovic and in my bedroom's CD
player I have The Hounds of Love - Kate Bush.  I had The Dreaming in,
but I was done listening.  Kate has to be one of the best female
singers ever.


Molly's Pages


Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:07:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Susperia Five <>
Subject: Baz Andrews
Message-ID: <>

Will said:
<<Anyone noticed that there's a new Shriekback album

"Naked Apes and PondLife"

A cracker.

Nice to see him back in the land of the

Oh, yes, I finally got my copy.  It was well worth the
wait ~ five years!  I just hope the release lures Baz
out of the woodwork to grace us with more enigmatic

<<Now....where's Apple Venus2?>>
It's hidig somewhere in a Wasp Star, methinks.
Another wait ~ drats!


The value of anything is how much it hurts ~~ Shriekback


Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:51:58 -0600
From: Jill Oleson <>
Subject: XTC online radio, plus Austin Chalkfest
Message-ID: <81CC73FC2FACD311A2D200508B8B88AA0D6E59@KURION_EXCH>

Thanks to Ian Stewart for pointing us to:


I enjoyed listening to XTC through my computer ALL day yesterday.
What a joy!

Also, FYI, this year's SXSW Festival in Austin has offered us the
opportunity to get a few Chalkers together.  Joe Funk, Steve Oleson and I
met with filmmaker David Schneider of Los Angeles and a couple of his
Austin friends at a Tex-Mex restaurant for dinner and great conversation.

We were supposed to see Chalker Jason Garcia and his band
Household Names last night, but a bad storm including rain, hail, and
tornadoes kept us home (sorry Jason!  What can we say?  It was
c-c-c-cold!).  Here's a stunning picture:

Tomorrow we have the following events featuring Chalkers:

James Driscoll (from Dallas)
band:  Chomsky (...... yes as in Noam)
Saturday, March 18, 5pm
Babe's on 6th Street
(not part of the festival itself, but playing as part
of a North Texas Music Showcase)

David Schnieder (from Los Angeles)
film:  "Hate* *a comedy" (won 2nd place at the
Aspen Comedy Festival last month)
Saturday, March 18, 10pm
Alamo Drafthouse & Cinema, 409 Colorado

And Sunday we'll get together for what the musicians are
calling an early brunch, but since it's at 1pm, I'll call it
a late lunch.  If you want to join us, send me a quick note
for the details.

Jill Oleson
Austin, Texas


Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:18:28 PST
From: "Duncan Kimball" <>
Subject: *Can* buy a thrill
Message-ID: <>

I must concur with those lauding Steely Dan's "Two Against Nature". It's a
more-than-welcome return - as perfect, poised and polished as one would
expect; their songwriting is up to their usual obliquely brilliant
standards, yet somehow different this time 'round - can't quite put my
finger on it but there's something interesting at work there.

Current faves are the title track (always a sucker for eccentric time
signatures, me), and the utterly groovy "Jack Of Speed". Neat.

BTW I recently saw the "Classic Albums" AJA episode, and laughed my guts out
at Becker & Fagan's acerbic repartee. What a double act! They're like Woody
Allen split into two people.



Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:19:51 -0500
From: MinerWerks <>
Subject: Some recognition?
Message-ID: <l03130301b4f736144744@[]>

Greetings all,

I just visited the website for the upcoming film High Fidelity, based on
the novel by Nick Hornby... perhaps some of you read this awesome book? If
you did, you would know that one of the things the characters do is
compulsively make up Top 5 lists, and this has been incorporated into the
film. At the website...

... there are some various Top 5 lists, one of which our boys from Swindon
appear on. "Sacrificial Bonfire" is on the list of "Top 5 Songs About
Setting Stuff On Fire."

By the way, I'm really looking forward to seeing this movie.

= Derek =

P.S. Thanks to Molly for having the weekly XTC listening parties. I've been
having fun... looks like next week, contrary to Molly's last post, we will
be doing the party on Wednesday, not Thursday and the album will be


Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:13:35 -0600
From: Bruce Buckingham <>
Subject: Hello again!
Message-ID: <>

Hello one and all!  I was a Chalkhillian sometime back, dropped out when it
became too much reading, but now I'm back.

First of all, I want to express my heartfelt thanks to Peter and June,
who spent many many years putting the xTc newsletter / Little Express
together. I started subscribing in '83 with the Newsletter #14, and
was hooked. They did a wonderful job, and I always looked forward to
the next issue. They just got better and better, even in the lean
times with no release to support, it was good reading.  Hats off to
you both!

> From: Rick Mealey <>
> Subject: Almost Void Of XTC Content
> > >Only heard a bit of new Steely Dan. It is pretty damn good. Although, it
> > >must be noted that the first four Dan albums are still by far, the best
> I agree that Aja was a watershed for Steely Dan. But the original post did
> refer to *the first four* SD albums, which are as the original author
> stated:
> Can't Buy A Thrill, Countdown to Ecstasy, Pretzel Logic, and Katy Lied. Aja
> was actually SD's sixth album (The Royal Scam was fifth). Oh, and I also do
> not like Gaucho at all.... But 2vN has its talons in me even as we speak.

The title track to Gaucho is to me a minor masterpiece, but yeah, they
were tired of it, and it shows.  2vN just gets better and better, just
like AV1.

> Off on the Kevin Gilbert tangent, haven't heard anybody else talk
> about this, so I have to ask. Who else here has heard Toy Matinee?
> This one album, which he wrote with producer Pat Leonard, was
> incredible. I'm told KG also contributed a track to a Gentle Giant
> tribute (actually an original, produced and arranged in the *style*
> of GG), but I cannot confirm or deny this.

Toy Matinee was Gilbert's best, although there is some good stuff on
his solo "Thud". His previous band "Giraffe" had 2 albums, ther is a
comp CD just out of that work. Giraffe once did the Genesis album
"Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" album live, there are CD's of that
circulating. The Gentle Giant contribution is flat out hilarious! The
song contributed is one of the songs from his soon to be released
album, "The Shaming of the True".  He also basically co-wrote one of
Sheryl Crow's albums, and he produced and played on Marc Bonilla's "EE
Ticket" as well as Keith Emerson's last solo cd.  Toy Matinee is a
must own album, IMO.

Well, pretty off topic, but I'll stop for now.


  The Present Day Zappa Refuses to Decompose.


Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:55:04 -0800
From: "Aaron Pastula" <>
Subject: Gilbert LIVES
Message-ID: <00ec01bf8fa3$1477cce0$fe84b3d1@oemcomputer>

>I'm told KG also contributed a track to a Gentle Giant tribute (actually
>an original, produced and arranged in the *style* of GG), but I cannot
>confirm or deny this.

I can.  It's actually the "Fugue of the A&R Staff" from The Shaming Of The
True, which is one of the more brilliant stabs at record companies - or
anything else, for that matter - of all time.  It, along with Mike
Keneally's head-ripping-off cover of "No God's A Man" are easily the best
reasons to seek out this album.



Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:38:28 -0800
From: Richard Pedretti-Allen <>
Subject: because it is easier to say than "Xux ek"
Message-ID: <l03130305b4f6e323ec43@[]>

To put an end to the "Wasp Star" debate...

Mike Livingston wrote:
"Have any of you ever tried to say Wasp Star five times fast?  When I first
heard the new name, I thought it was just the boys trying to trip up some
of the lamer DJs out there. "

I spoke with Andy a few days ago and he knows that some people have trouble
with it.  He agreed that DJs would simply say, "The new XTC CD" rather than
actually stating the name and didn't think it would really be a problem.
We also talked about his use of other cryptic descriptors in his lyrics.

He agreed with the record company that the CD should have a different name
than AVv1 but wanted it to have a connection (more than being subtitled
AVv2), so he chose the name "Wasp Star."

We joked about trying to trip up DJs and calling the CD "Yellow Leather,
Yellow Leather, Yellow Leather."  Andy added '...or maybe call it "Red
Lorry, Yellow Lorry!"' ...I don't think so.

Robert Kulick wrote:
"That should satisfy the idiot entomologist that came up with WASP STAR."

Funk & Wagnall's Folklore Of Mythology And Legends lists the wasp as
"...wise and cunning."  Not a wholly irrelevent definition if taken with
some of the possible definitions of "star."

W.A.S.P. (as in White anglo-saxon Protestant) is as much a derogatory slang
as "Yuppie."  Additionally, prior to the acronym, a person called a "wasp"
indicated that they had a slender waist.

It could be an acronym for Sap Straw, Saw Strap or Past Wars.

In case you missed my previous posting, "WASP STAR" _IS_

The Aztec incarnation of the goddess Venus  (as in Apple Venus)



    Venus was one of the most important "stars" observed by the ancient
    Mayan astronomers. There were ten names given to it: Noh ek which
    meant, "the great star" and Xux ek which meant, "the wasp star." Venus
    could be viewed in the morning so it was also refereed to as "the
    morning star."  During the night, the Mayans used the Plaides and
    Gemini as guides to locate Venus when it was not visible to the naked
    eye. Through this method the Mayans were able to determine Venus'
    right ascension and declination at almost any time during the night
    even though it could only be seen in the morning. There are five
    synodical revolutions that the Mayans determined Venus made which
    averaged out to 583.920 days. In each synodical revolution, Venus went
    through four periods.

    During Venus' first revolution, it was considered the Morning Star for
    about 240 days by the Mayans. This was known as the "inferior
    conjunction." After this first revolution Venus disappeared in the
    Mayan sky completely for about 90 days. This period is referred to as
    the "superior conjunction." In the third period, Venus reappeared in
    the Mayan sky as an Evening Star for about 240 days. Then, after that,
    in the fourth period, Venus disappears again for about 14 days. Again,
    the disappearance of Venus is called a "inferior conjunction" as it
    was in the first period. The number of days in each of the four
    periods varies but when combined they average out 583.920 days or one
    synodical revolution.

Andy was spending the evening looking through photos to include on the CD

It is still unclear at this point if they will be doing any promotional
work (i.e., travelling, shaking hands and kissing babies).

By the way, "Pecham Rose" is a brand of matches used in a film that Andy
saw and he thought it sounded nice.  That's all there is to it.  So all you
horticulturists can stop scanning your Jackson-Perkins catalogs.

We now return to your regularly schedule program, already in progress.

Richard "Chuckholes and chilled wren" Pedretti-Allen


Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:32:36 CST
From: "Megan Heller" <>
Subject: Adventure Club Sessions
Message-ID: <>

I was browsing during lunch at work today, and I saw something that
might be of interest to those Chalkhillians with money. (That would bar me.)

The description as it appears on the page is as follows:

* * * * *
Various Artists - Adventure Club Sessions (Blur, James, XTC & more acoustic)
(The Edge - Dallas ) This highly sought after CD has acoustic performances
that never appeared elsewhere from Blur, The Cranberries, James, Ocean
Colour Scene, XTC, His Name Is Alive and more. Over the years fans of all of
those bands have sought this out, making it extremely rare. The CD includes
short spoken intros for individual songs from Tim Booth of James, Damon
Albarn of Blur, etc. Stephen Duffy with The Lilac Time perform Prince's
"Raspberry Beret" mixed with his TinTin hit "Kiss Me". The Catherine Wheel
acoustically cover Husker Du's "Don't Wanna Know If You are Lonely". 19
Tracks in all. All performances were recorded for or during The Adventure
Club (a Dallas radio show) from 1991-1993.
* * * * *

The XTC track is "Blue Beret".

You can reach the item by going to and clicking on the
"Music Collectibles" button in the bar near the top of the page.  Go to "V"
for "Various Artists".

By the way, I have no connection with  Just thought some people
might be interested.



Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:30:38 -0000
From: "Adrian Ransome" <>
Subject: XTC On Video Update
Message-ID: <006801bf904f$a908b700$be0d893e@atidy>

My mistake; the vid I mentioned as 'to be released' has actually been out
since 1995 and as far as I know may still exist. The details are:-
Title: "Best Punk Video In The World..Ever"
Catalogue No.: MVL 491438 3
Sorry I can't be more in-depth that's all the info I have- I suspect it is
published by the "lovely" Virgin label, so perhaps we should all stay away
from it in our droves.
Adrian Ransome


Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:52:52 EST
From: "Seth Frisby" <>
Subject: Chips From MY Chocolate Fireball...Or Hello it's me Part Three
Message-ID: <>

Well Hello,
    How very fine to see you all. I certainly hope you are all well. I see
you that most are coming to terms with the new title...personally I couldn't
ask for a better one. For one thing its got links to a "Pagan" religion,
mayan this time, and hell its the name of the Venus God. So it's not like
he's pulling it completely from thin air...Has anyone read the Hound Music
Guide? If you look under Xtc you will find some ratings that would raise the
ire of any fan. For one thing they only recommend Drums and Wires and
Skylarking for starters. In the desription of the band they take up more
space explaining who the Dukes are than the true band itself. But what makes
me angry are the ratings they give other albums. TWO BONES for
Oranges&Lemons I mean c'mon not everyone thinks it perfect (though I do) but
two out of five bones? uuurrrghh! I think Nonesuch gets 2 1/2 bones. There
are other atrocities but I digress...oh and don't worry the Orgone thread
will take care of itself, our own inanity immune system will kick in and
we'll start worrying about the new album more. Or more than we are now. I
noticed that Av1 got some mixed reviews on from the fans
actually. Mostly I think because it wasn't what they expected, and probably
orchoustic was a bit middle of the road, soft rock, or older people music
for their ears (though not for mine and most others). For those fans I think
Av2 will be more "pop" for their tastes. I stand by the fact that age and
experience CAN improve craft. I did write a glowing rewiew to balance out
the reviews there.
        I think I might be getting the hang of this "posting" business...Do
you think in the interviews for the *new* album they'll be able to talk
about anything other than all that stinky "Virgin" business? I was
re-reading some of the Av1 interviews and all that talk is a bit dpressing,
kind of like hearing about your best friend's breakup...well let's
see...Nope no more...

Seth "Legally yours until Doomsday" Frisby (Yup that's me name!)

p.s. Does anyone else have trouble with the subject line? I'm tempted just
to write "Stuff about Xtc...more or less" for every one. I'm sure nice
Mr.Relph would get annoyed though.


Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:45:12 -0700
From: John Lerfald <>
Subject: Re: 20-20 Hindsight
Message-ID: <>
Organization: U S WEST Communications, Inc

Wes Hanks wrote:
>let's try this little excercise...every parent on the list can post the
>names they decided to give their kids and then everyone on the list is
>free to criticize, over-analyze and engage in all forms of Monday-morning
>quarterbacking regarding your choice of names.

What the hell is Monday-morning quarterbacking??


Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:56:36 -0800 (PST)
From: brown <>
Subject: Countdown To XTCeeeee
Message-ID: <>

Hi-ho to all!

        Just wanted to share the anticipatory vibe with you Hillies...come
on, AV2 is just around the corner....let's hear you loud and
clear...WOOO-WHOOO!  I haven't heard anything from 'Wasp Star' so I'm
looking forward to having my socks blown clean off.  I feel like a wee child
on Christmas Eve.....why I do believe I hear the clatter of boot heels on my
roof...and what's that? sounds like the crackling report of an electric
guitar being plugged into an amp....  Andy...Colin...?

        If you could use a little chuckle right about now, head over to The
Onion-/vol.36/issue9 (  They have a very amusing 'Least
Essential Albums of the '90s''s a list worth reading.

Stirring the embers until they glow,

Debora Brown

"Human speech is like a cracked kettle on which we tap crude rhythms for
bears to dance to, while we long to make music that will melt the
stars."---Gustave Flaubert


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