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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 42

                  Monday, 13 March 2000

Today's Topics:

   Some Lovely (My Brown Guitar) NOT on the new album?
                    Wasp Star in Japan
                      AAAARRRGGGHHH?
                  Pay attention, class!
                        Junky Wasp
                  A Couple of Ramblings
                  More Mayan Musings...
                       Cracking up
        Guitar riffs, Steely Dan, AW2 and some...
                  internet radio station
                     XTC SPOTTING!!!
             Re: Foreshadowed Expression Loss
    Orgonemania, paraphrasing & contextual nit-picking
            Chalker events in Austin for SXSW
                         SXSW URL
             The Bit About the Earth Cooling
            There's Orgone in them thar Hills
                    SD, TD, TVT, Ltd.

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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:03:38 -0600
From: "Jim S." <jims@inlink.com>
Subject: Some Lovely (My Brown Guitar) NOT on the new album?
Message-ID: <38CBEA0A.558FBFF7@inlink.com>

Someone mentioned earlier that this song was not going to be on Wasp
Star.  Can anyone confirm or deny?  Is there an official song listing
for the album?  Does anyone else miss the days when XTC albums had
more songs on them, such as O&L or Nonsuch?  10 or 12 songs just
leaves me wanting even more...

Thanks much,
--
 Jim S.     <jims@inlink.com>

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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:58:17 -0600
From: "Jim S." <jims@inlink.com>
Subject: Wasp Star in Japan
Message-ID: <38CBE8C9.8578E3F@inlink.com>

With the new album being released early in Japan, how does one go
about ordering a copy?  And will there be any nifty extras, either
bonus songs or packaging?

Thanks for any info...
--
 Jim S.     <jims@inlink.com>

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:28:44 -0500
From: erik schlichting <eriks@ci.conover.nc.us>
Subject: AAAARRRGGGHHH?
Message-ID: <38CCFB1C.822D15E4@ci.conover.nc.us>

Nick Howorth wrote:

"Please shut up about the f***ing Orgone Accumulator...."

I wondered how long it would take for this subject to make
someone crack.
Now I know.

Erik

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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:47:20 PST
From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pay attention, class!
Message-ID: <20000313074721.91745.qmail@hotmail.com>

Oh goody! Now we're onto Pre-columbian history! "Wasp Star", huh? Evidently
Andy has been digging around in the Meso-American section at the Swindon
Library lately.

Thanks Phil <philco@micron.net> for clarifying the "Aztec vs Mayan" point.
Well made. Can I resist a comment ... on one of my favourite topics? Not
bloody likely.

>I'd thought our friends down in Mexico would be writing in
>to correct everyone..... but I'll do it for them.

That's very white of you :p

>The Aztec and Mayan civilizations were not the same thing.

True enough

>The Aztecs, or Mexica as they called themselves, dominated the area >around
>what is presently Mexico City.

Yeah, pretty much - although the Mexica were only one of many related groups
generically referred to as "Aztecs"; the Mexica happened to be the dominant
religious/military elite at the time Cortez appeared, but there were
numerous other groups (such as the Tarascans of
Michoacan) either allied to or subject to the Mexica, some of whom are
thought to have been technologically and culturally rather more advanced
than the Mexica. Unfortunately they got wiped out by smallpox so we know
bugger all aboubt them.

>Their capital city was Tenochtitlan, which was completely leveled by >the
>gold-seeking bastard Cortes. The Spanish priests came along later >to make
>sure the damage was permanent.

Well, sort of. Yes, the sacred precint of the city was more or less levelled
after the city fell in 1521. All the buildings above ground level were
flattened and the stone used to construct new buildings - bits of the
original carvings can be seen on the outside of the cathedral. *But* the
platform on the which the Templo Major stood is still there and is being
excavated right now, with some fascinating results; lots of stuff below
ground survived. Also, many outlying areas survived, including parts of the
canal network and the marvellous "chinampas" or floating gardens on which
they grew their food. These were so fertile thanks to the volcanic soil and
their cunning farming practices that they could get three harvests per year.

It is important to get this in perspective though. I'm not defending the
Spaniards, and it IS one the most awful chapters in human history, but it's
not exactly a black-and-white story of poor, gentle defenceless natives
being slaughtered by evil whitey. Some of it was pure bad luck. When Cortes
and his forces entered Tenochtitlan in November 1519, they were not
crucially resisted at first because - as legend has it - the Mexica ruler
Moctezuma II (whose name, incidentally means "he who frowns like a lord")
believed Cortes to be the fulfilment of a religious prophecy, which
predicted that the mythic figure Queztlcoatl  - whose skin was the sacred
colour, white, and who was bearded - would return from "across the sea" to
bring about the end of the era of the "Fifth Sun" in which they lived.

But most importantly, Cortes and the Spaniards had help, and PLENTY of it.
He had horses, guns, armour, cannon, sure - but he had only about 700
Spanish troops with him. They facing an army of possibly up to 50,000 Mexica
troops; and lets not forget that the population of Tenochtitlan is estimated
to have been about 250,000 at the time. It was a tall order and Cortez
famously had to burn his own ships to ensure his men would follow him.

I'm generalising hugely but the conquest was largely possible thanks to two
vital factors:

1. Popularity. Most of the subject tribes hated their Mexica overlords with
a passion. The Mexica were, it has to be said, not very nice people. Their
basic political line was, like the Nazis, terror on an industrial scale.
Their tactics when taking on enemies were pretty much your standard Borg
routine - romp in, smash away at the opposition with a relentless assault by
huge hordes of ruthless, drug-crazed storm-troopers (think of the Sardaukar
in "Dune") and then capture as many men as possible to take home to be
sacrificed. On a big day, sacrifices of 20,000 were not uncommon.

When taking over new cities, they typically sent in an emissary first to
demand tribute and give them the "Resistance is futile" spiel. If a town was
silly enough not to believe them, they were given a right pasting and then
forced to comply anyway *and* to send a vastly increased tribute (including
more sacrifices). If they still resisted they were typically massacred to
the last person. Friend or foe, it didn't matter. It's reported that when
Moctezuma II's brother withdrew from the court, Moctezuma began a so-called
"Flower War" against him, which ended with the brother and 2,800 of his
court being massacred.

So, not surprisingly, the vassal cities were only too happy to chip in to
get rid of the Mexica - hence they threw in some 3000 additional troops when
Cortez first marched on Tenochtitlan. By the time it fell in 1521, after
stiff resistance by the Mexica, Cortez had a force of some 50,000 local
allies. Yet even then he very nearly lost; about half his men were killed
and he was almost killed himself.

2. Germs. In the long run, the thing which really did for the Mexica and all
their various friends and enemies was smallpox. A huge epidemic broke out
not long after Cortz arrived and it more than decimated the local people.
The population of Mexico in 1519 was estimate at about 25 million; by 1600
it had fallen to just over 1 million. They might well have resitsted the
Spanish invasion - and they tried valiantly - but with nineteen out of every
twenty people dying, there was just no-one left to fight them in the end.

"Exterminate! Exterminate!"

BTW May I recommend:

http://www.sfsu.edu/~hsa/ex-post-facto/ebert.html

Adaptability and the Shock of the New:
The Response of the Mexica to Cortes' Invasion

by Christopher Ebert

Dunks

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:44:16 +0900
From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp>
Subject: Junky Wasp
Message-ID: <001801bf8cf4$e83109e0$6a5791d2@johnboud>

"Ralph Simpson DeMarco" <sawpit@hotmail.com> wrote:
>After the shooting, Burroughs went right to
>the police, where it was determined to be an accident.

For those of you who are " innerested " , William Burroughs and his wife had
NOT often done the William Tell act as someone on the list  reported . The
first and last time was on the night of Sept. 6 , 1951 . Also , Burroughs
was jailed without bail for 13 days and ended up going to trial where he was
charged with " imprudencia criminal " , which had a maximum sentence of 5
years . Bill pleaded guilty and was released on bail after his brother
arrived from St. Louis with $ 2000 . The sentence was not to be delivered
for one year . Before it was passed , in Dec. 1952 Burroughs' Mexican lawyer
Jurado murdered a 17 year old youth who inadvertently damaged his Cadillac .
He subsequently skipped the country leaving Bill high and dry . Burroughs
was shaken down for more $ by the Mexicans so he followed his lawyer's
example and split the same month forfeiting his bail money . And according
to everything I have read Bill Burroughs was NOT on drugs the night of the
shooting ; he ( and his wife Joan ) and been downing drinks since early in
the afternoon .

WASP STAR sounds like title of a chapter of one of Bill Burroughs' cut- up
novels , and is sounding better and better the more I hear it ! Would anyone
have bitched about " Big Express " or " NONSUCH " if the list had been
around then ? Come on , WASP STAR has got both of those beat , don't you
think ?

Sushiman

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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:29:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Molly Fanton <mfanton99@yahoo.com>
Subject: A Couple of Ramblings
Message-ID: <20000313062920.19321.qmail@web1302.mail.yahoo.com>

Dan wrote:

<<who the fuck CARES what the actual title is of
the next xtc
release??

it's a NEW XTC album, fer crissakes!!  that's
what matters!!!!!!

get over it........jeeez!
>>

Hey, Dan waid for the flaming e-mails to start.  I do agree with what
you're saying, but why are you doing this?  Some people in hear won't
change their attitudes about the album title name, they bitch about it
no matter what.  I think some people in this group would just like
things to be the same all the time.  No changes.  Just lighten up
people.  It's only an album title name.

Oh and to Nick, lighten up dude.  Maybe you should take a chill pill
or get out more often.  If this whole Organone thingy is getting out
of control John will kill the posts.  Yes, this is an XTC mailing
list, but some people (including myself) sometimes post non-XTC
things.  That happens in any mailing list I'm in.  People sometimes
post an off topic subject.  Usually it doesn't get bitched at like
you're doing.

Molly

Molly's Pages
http://www.angelfire.com/mn/mollyfa99/index.html

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 02:25:47 -0500
From: Steve <grenier@cyberzone.net>
Subject: More Mayan Musings...
Message-ID: <38DF5E79@MailAndNews.com>

>From: RNV <rnv@mac.com>
>
>Funny you should ask. I'm not Mayan, but I play one on TV. Also, I've
>read Tintin's "Prisoners of the Sun" dozens of times.

Doesn't Tintin's "Prisoners of the Sun" feature Incas, not Mayans? At
least it does in the original French version (Le Temple du Soleil).

I'll echo what someone stated earlier: who cares what it's called, it's
a new XTC album. :-)

steve

NP: Transistor Blast, Disc 1

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:50:04 -0600
From: "Todd Bernhardt" <todd.bernhardt@enterworks.com>
Subject: Cracking up
Message-ID: <38CD1C3C.9A6BCADA@enterworks.com>
Organization: Enterworks, Inc.

Hi:

Because the comely, kind and clever Jill Oleson (courtesy of her
consort, Steve) has informed me that today is "Uranus Discovery Day,"
and because Phil Corless had a very informative post in the last issue,
I thought I'd engage in a bit of buttlickery:

Phil, the new shirts are AWESOME, dude. Mine's a long-sleeve t-shirt in
dark green w/white text, and it looks *schweet.* The best Chalkhills
shirt by far. Nice work.

--Todd "Pass the Listerine" Bernhardt
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:52:41 +0100
From: Johan Ekdahl <johan.ekdahl@programbyran.se>
Subject: Guitar riffs, Steely Dan, AW2 and some...
Message-ID: <E1FE4AE1AF2DD111885A00A02479F44214FF3B@sofia.programbyran.se>

De-lurk.

Simon Deane - on the guitar-riff in "No Language In Our Lungs":
>Also, is it me or is this the first overtly
>Beatlesque song in the XTC oeuvre, cf. the "descending" guitars towards the
>end?

You're not alone! I'm with You on this one! This is the perfect rip-off of
the late Beatlesque sound. (E g "I want You - She's so heavy"). I haven't
checked the archives and other places but I assume it's Dave doing it?
(Right Mark-in-the-Lighthouse, knower of many things Gregsy-sch?) Reminds me
of the video-clip with him and his 12-string Rickenbacker (spelling?). THAT
almost made me cry!

 --

R S DeMarco said:
>Only heard a bit of new Steely Dan. It is pretty damn good.

And others have had the same opinion in earlier C'hills. Have to admit that
i bought it, listened to it once - and was very disappointed. Oh well - if
all You folks think it's that good i'll give it a couple of chances...

And he continued:
>Can't Buy a Thrill, Countdown to Ecstasy, Pretzel
>Logic, Katy Lied. Oh, and I do not like Gaucho at all. Fagen's the Nightfly
>is far superior. Kamakiriad does grow on you [...]

Aja? (!)

 --

OK, so Apple Wasp volume II will be released a month or so later than
previously announced. I can understand the disappointment, but please note
that we are still "back on track". It's about a year since AV1. That's not
unusual these days, no? Which artist/group releases two records a year (a la
early Beatles)? When things lag _after_ AW2 - THEN WORRY! After AW2 its "new
material time". After AW2 they've had a shot on both "orchoustic" and
"pop-guitarish", and if the figures aren't black enough... Let's hope for
the best though!

Not that I worry too much! Really interesting artists always gets their nose
above water from time to time. This week I will try to get my hands on the
new (not so new anymore?) Kevin Coyne CD. Hearing about KC making music
again was a veeery pleasant surprise!

Re-lurk.

/Johan Ekdahl

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:45:49 -0500
From: Mark Newberg <mhnewberg@home.com>
Subject: internet radio station
Message-ID: <38CD456B.4CC86519@home.com>
Organization: @Home Network

My favorite radio station here in Pittsburgh, Pa has recently begun
broadcasting over the Internet and I thought some of you may be
interested in listening to this terrific station.. They play some XTC
stuff as well as other bands you don't hear on any other station. Here
is a list of their top 10 for 1999 to give you an idea of what they
play:

1. Beth Orton - Central Reservation
2. Van Morrison - Back On Top
3. Martin Sexton - The American
4. Kim Richey - Glimmer
5. Richard Thompson - Mock Tudor
6. Moby - Play
7. Meshell Ndegeocello
8. Bruce Cockburn - Breakfast in New Orleans
9. Alison Krause - Forget About Us
10. Various Artist - Return of Grievous Angel

AV got a Noteworthy Mention

http://www.wyep.org/

I don't work for the station, but I am a member. (It's a public
station.) Just thought I would pass on a good listening experience

Mark Newberg
--
Eighty percent of life is showing up.  -Woody Allen

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Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:57:00 -0800
From: unna@worldmailer.com
Subject: XTC SPOTTING!!!
Message-ID: <20000313185700.6073.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net>

Lucky me was channel surfing last Saturday when I happened across a
documentry about Las Vegas on The Learning Channel. Just as I was
being drawn into the sleazy filth of the Vegas underworld there was a
scene showing neon lights being reflected in a puddle of water on the
street. And what do you think was playing as the droplets shook the
neon reflection in the puddle? Why, River of Orchids, of course! They
played the intro up until the vocals about 3 times during the scene!

Happy to tell you,
Laura

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:56:46 -0500
From: "blueoverall" <blueoverall@popster.com>
Subject: Re: Foreshadowed Expression Loss
Message-ID: <006201bf8d2e$a8b1cd60$ae065c83@us.net>

>   A title like Dog Vomit would be better than Wasp Star... >>
> How about "Monkey Puss?"  Or "10,000 Nuns and Orphans...Eaten By
> Rats?" With a name like that, it'd have to be good!
> J. D.

call me a traditionalist . ....
but I like that the following albums are foreshadowed by the previous.
  e.g. "orange and lemon raincoats . ." in skylarking's ballet for a rainy
day.
        then  "while some nonsuch net holds me aloft " in  chalkhills and
children . .. on Oranges and Lemons

 now on to more important things . . .
can someone explain to me, please . . . how is it that I can own three
copies of big express . .  3 cases and one disc???
and black sea . . two cases . .NO discs!!!!
is there some sort of CD stealing XTC fairy that Andy congers??? . .  to get
me to buy more copies????
thank god they don't steal vinyl or flexies!!! ;-)

Diane
(yes this is my first post)

p.s. I have a friend who assumed I was into the Partridge Family . . .
'cause I am always rattling on about some guy named Andy Partridge!!!!  I
laughed SO HARD!!!

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:30:37 -0800
From: Ed Kedzierski <ed.kedzierski@blvdmedia.com>
Subject: Orgonemania, paraphrasing & contextual nit-picking
Message-ID: <08B5DDC2BABCD311BFC6005004A884B013B543@mgcservices.com>

In 6-40, Ralph Simpson DeMarco pulled something I said completely out of
context, branding me with a point of view I don't particularly hold.

"Way back on March 7th Ed Kedzierski wrote:
  >>Taking Burroughs' endorsement of orgone as a strike against it on account
  >>of his being a wife-killing junky seems besides the point; you don't read
  >>Burroughs to look for role models.>>

OK, I know this may be besides the point but "wife-killing junky"? I suggest
you read... etc. etc."

Within the context of the thread that was already going, when I referred to
Burroughs as a "wife-killing junky", I was just condensing into three words
what had already more or less been said. Someone mentioned Burroughs'
endorsement of orgone, which was then (I believe by Duncan "I still feel too
new here to call him 'Dunks'" Kimball, correct me if I'm wrong) criticized
on the basis of his reliability, including mention of his drug problems and
the death of his wife (I don't feel like fishing through the digests for
exact quotes here). I just summed this up as "wife killing junky", assuming
that everyone knows the stories, had read the previous posts, and would
understand that we were mainly just talking about popular (mis)perceptions
here. Maybe I should have qualified this a bit more, but it wasn't really
the main point of what I was saying, and besides I thought maybe I should
ease up on my habit of adding qualifiers and apologies to everything I say.
Perhaps I was wrong. "Sorry". Also note that I didn't say "wife-murdering";
even though accidental (which I have no reason not to believe), he still
technically killed her. I'd hate to have to live with something like that
myself, but I'm sure there are many things he went through that I can't say
I'd be able to handle. Needless to say, I have no intention of making
parlour tricks with loaded firearms a regular part of my home entertainment.
I have nothing but respect for Burroughs' work, and a great deal of
affection for the public persona that may or may not be a fair reflection of
the real man (the hat, glasses, gaunt frame, haunted eyes and gravelly
monotone has become something of a modern icon of cool, no matter how much
of a cartoon it has become, am I going to get shit for saying that? It's
only going to get worse, you know; you'll think Peter Weller's a friggin'
god when the TV-movie bio starring Mark Harmon as Burroughs comes
out...Perhaps there'll even eventually BE a cartoon character based on the
Burroughs public persona caricature. Maybe an anthropomorphic dog, like a
thin McGruff...) Well, maybe I shouldn't have been so careless about
propagating cliches and all that, but I thought we were all on the same
page, so whatever.

Ed K.

XTC content: Looks like everyone's pretty much accepted the name Wasp Star
as a fait accompli (I know I have). Saying it out loud with those S's
separated by a P is a bit problematical though; when reccomending the album
to others, you might want to curb your enthusiasm just a tad, as spitting on
people might put them off ;-)

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:04:22 -0600
From: Jill Oleson <Jill_Oleson@kurion.com>
Subject: Chalker events in Austin for SXSW
Message-ID: <81CC73FC2FACD311A2D200508B8B88AA0D6E1D@KURION_EXCH>

Maybe it's not too late (depending on when this
digest is delivered and where you live) to see
a few of your fellow Chalkers at the SXSW festival
in Austin this week:

Jason Garcia (from Austin)
band: Household Names
Thursday March 16, 8pm
Gatsby's 409 E. 6th

James Driscoll (from Dallas)
band:  Chomsky (...... yes as in Noam)
Saturday, March 18, 5pm
Babe's on 6th Street
(not part of the festival itself, but playing as part
of a North Texas Music Showcase)

David Schnieder (from Los Angeles)
film:  "Hate* *a comedy" (won 2nd place at the
Aspen Comedy Festival last month)
Saturday, March 18, 10pm
Alamo Drafthouse & Cinema, 409 Colorado

Maybe we'll see YOU at one of these Austintatious events?
I'll be at the free Patti Smith show at Waterloo Park,
fer sure, fer sure!  Oh, oh!  And the Meat Puppets too!

Jill Oleson
Austin, Texas

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:14:08 -0600
From: Jill Oleson <Jill_Oleson@kurion.com>
Subject: SXSW URL
Message-ID: <81CC73FC2FACD311A2D200508B8B88AA0D6E1E@KURION_EXCH>

I should have included the link to the South by Southwest
Conference and Festival in the note I sent just a minute ago.
Here it is:

            http://www.sxsw.com/2k/splash.html

This event is held *every* year in March.  Perhaps YOU should
plan on attending sometime.  Hundreds of music, film, and
interactive media events to attend over a three-week period.
It's a blast!

Note:  You can buy a pass to attend *everything* or just pay to
attend a select few.

Jill Oleson
Austin, Texas

P.S.  When I spellcheck anything that has XTC in it, Microsoft
suggests that I replace XTC with TX.  That's the post office's
abbreviation for Texas!  Well, boy-howdy!  Ain't that special?

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:20:21 EST
From: Hbsherwood@aol.com
Subject: The Bit About the Earth Cooling
Message-ID: <ae.262d594.25fed1b5@aol.com>

>  From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
>  Subject: O No Not Again

>  BTW: in Dutch "wasp" is "wesp" but little children usually can't say
>  that word properly and switch the 's' and 'p' ie. "weps"... does the
>  same thing occur with English speaking youngsters?

This was rather famously true of Winston Churchill, if you consider him an
English speaker, which I don't.

Of course, this raises the possibility that the only difference between WASPs
and Wops is a speech impediment, a notion that I for one will be happy to
entertain until convinced otherwise.

("Dear-a Chalk-a-heels, I am molto offendato by-a thees-a eensult-a to my
nationality, regards-a, Carlo Buccarini, and-a Pee-Ess-a, so ees-a my
friend-a, Satanas-a Diabloroni, who weel-a be along-a in a few minutes to
harangue you for several weeks until you're ready to strangle each other.")

>  Just try to say that tongue-twisting title out loud a couple of times

I tend to agree with this, and will bet dollars to lire that Waps Star is not
the final name of the album. Anybody up for a little action?

> From: "Simon Deane/Gina Chong" <ginsim@netvigator.com>
>  Subject: Stop Press: new AV2 name

> "No Language In Our Lungs" - this probably is the best song on the album

By several heads and a shoulder or two.

>  "No Language In Our Lungs" - [is] basically
>  saying that we can't properly express our true feelings (and there's also
>  that wittyish bit about the instrumental), but this ain't exactly anything
>  we don't all know already.

Well, Si and I date back quite a long way on this one, so some of this might
be old hat, but I have to point out that Simon's dry restatement of the theme
of the song gives desperately short shrift to the passion with which it's
presented in the recording. Patently, the intensity of the "I Want You"
guitars and the vehement singing would indicate that "we can't properly
express our true feelings" is a topic of rather vital importance to
Partridge. In fact, implicit in the song is a theme that might fairly be
stated, "We can't properly express our true feelings, *so we use art as a
poor substitute*," which makes things altogether more interesting. (I posted
rather extensively on this in
http://chalkhills.org/digests/show.cgi?digest=Digest.4-114.gz, which
marked the beginning of the Deane/Sherwood _Entente Cordiale_.)

> Also, is it me or is this the first overtly
>  Beatlesque song in the XTC oeuvre, cf. the "descending" guitars towards the
>  end?

It's not just you. No question, that was the first declaration of things to
come--and what an announcement, eh?.

I'm very amused by Andy attempting to distance himself from "the Beatle
thing" during the buildup to the release of the new record. I understand the
motivation--the Fabs look just a little musty on a List of Influences these
days. It seems just a *teensy* bit late in the day to try to separate oneself
from the perception that the Mersey runs through one's veins--particularly
when one has such skeletons in the closet as Skylarking, Oranges and Lemons,
and huge swatches of Nonsuch and Apple Venus.

> From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp>
>  Subject: The Current State of " Rock "

> Back in the 60's and early 70's they had a genre of music over
>  here called " group sounds " . The record companies manufactured goofy
>  groups who sung current pop hits in the US in Japanese . The fans of course
>  assumed the tunes were original .

John, you wouldn't happen to have any examples of these, or maybe provide a
link to someplace that sells them? No offense to our Japanese friends, I'm
not trying to be culturally insensitive or anything, but this sounds utterly
hilarious. I'm trying to imagine "Whole Lotta Love" done Shatner-style by
Toshiro Mifune, or perhaps "Yummy Yummy Yummy" as imagined by some 1971
groovy hepcat producer from Osaka and performed by a girl-group who also did
backgound vox for Hello Kitty cartoons.

Wes's Terry Tale:

> Terry was observed talking with Brian Eno. Terry was asked the
>  next day what they were talking about. "I asked him if he had a
>  bottle-opener", Terry says, "and I get a lecture on the history of the
>  fuckin' world. After about three quarters of an hour, I had to ask him to
>  speed things up a bit because we still hadn't got to the bit about the
Earth
>  cooling.

OK. Screw it. I'm done trying to be funny. I can't compete with this.

Harrison "Off to wee-wee in the chips" Sherwood

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:47:27 -0800
From: "Hiatt, Randy" <Randy.Hiatt@fsbti.com>
Subject: There's Orgone in them thar Hills
Message-ID: <F34536084B78D311AF53009027B0D7EA144A18@fsbex01-2.web.boeing.com>

Dunks, in his masterful (and final) prosecution of Orgone Energy rests his
case on the fact that because there is an associated income related to
Orgone and the teaching/training of such devices/thought that it must be
suspect.  Might you be a Quaker?

I saw an experiment (UCLA) that used Orgone energy to create a Kirlian
photograph (high voltage photography) over the time span of hours/days
rather than the usual seconds.  Control experiments showed no image.
****

I agree that "come off" is spelled incorrectly.
****

Sushiman stated: "To all those who have inquired about new release date in
Japan , it isApril 19th ."
I recall the Vol1 release was also earlier in Japan, but did that ever come
to be?  I can't recall.
****

Aaron Pastula awoke me to the Kevin Gilberts cover of the Lamb in it's
entirety!... Progfest 94.... this is a bootleg (so I may have discovered)
but I want it... anyone know how to get it?
****

Randy (Mayan Warts) Hiatt

http://members.tripod.com/RandyHiatt/

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:16:12 -0800
From: "Mike Martis" <mmartis@softcom.net>
Subject: SD, TD, TVT, Ltd.
Message-ID: <00a601bf8d5b$45db3f00$ec43fea9@mmartis>

Hi Chalks,

Some musings...

Ralph wrote:
>Only heard a bit of new Steely Dan. It is pretty damn good. Although, it
>must be noted that the first four Dan albums are still by far, the best
>albums in their catalogue. Can't Buy a Thrill, Countdown to Ecstasy,
Pretzel
>Logic, Katy Lied. Oh, and I do not like Gaucho at all...

Ralph - I agree with your thoughts on the new record, but surely you
accidentally omitted Aja from your list of Steely Dan greats. To my ears,
it's Fagen and Becker's best. And let me dust off the category of all-time
great album sides and further opine that Aja's LP side featuring Black Cow,
Aja and Deacon Blues ranks high on my Top 10 list.

Spinning off on the subject of tributes, I still say a Steely Dan cover of
The World Is Full Of Angry Young Men would have been a priceless addition to
Testimonial Dinner. The song just *sounds* like Steely Dan.

Finally, I wasn't aware of any XTC/TVT feud. What, short of a random
Andyrant, caused such a thing?

Respectably,
Mike

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