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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 28

                Thursday, 17 February 2000

Today's Topics:

                    hAPPy AnNiVeRsArY
                   Virtual Terry again
                    XTC Sang with Who?
                    Re: Little Express
                   The Little Express.
                       Freaky Geeks
         re: the little express (chalkhills 6_27)
                          RIP LE
               Billy Nicholls or Fred Neil
                  How XTC saved my life!
             Critix o' Discernment and Taste
Don't bother me! I'm laying pipe! Now let's see... Another water
                The new Colin Moulding CD!
                 re: Chalkhills / Freaks
                         5 Senses
                I know I'm a geek when...
                      Re: Kate Bush


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Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:15:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: hAPPy AnNiVeRsArY

just realized that it was somewhere around a year ago
that I subscribed to Chalkhills (don't remember the
exact date, but it was a few weeks before AV1 was
Anyways, thanks for a fun year! I've always enjoyed
Chalkhills, even when the posts flog some boring
thread to death or I get bitch-slapped for my opinions
clashing with someone elses. Being on this list has
made me a few e-friends, and given me lots of
interesting tape trades. A year ago, I had three XTC
tapes-a live show from Ann Arbor in 1980, a live show
from Boston, and Jules Verne's Sketchbook. Today, I
have over 15 XTC tapes/cdr's of various live shows,
demos and interviews, as well as close to a dozen by
other bands. All from joining this list!

As I recall, a lot of posts last year around this time
were discussing whether hearing the AV demos would
spoil the album once it was released. I held off on
hunting down the demos until after I bought AV1 (on
the release date, of course!) just in case. Now I have
heard most if not all the demos for AV2, so we'll see
if it effects my enjoyment of that one. My guess is
that it won't. I heard Jules Verne's Sketchbook before
the Dukes, and i like the Dukes recording of Little
Lighthouse better than the demo. On the other hand,
I've recently heard most of the Nonsuch demos for the
first time, and I like them all much metter than the
album versions.

Well, thanks again

Tyler "insert your own phrase here" Hewitt


Message-Id: <v04210a00b4d1144dd473@[]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:09:19 +0900
From: nishimatu <>
Subject: Virtual Terry again

  "Virtual Terry" got his own virtual room now.

  One of the graphics is a big one (1024*768) specially rendered for Mr
Strijbos. I hope it would be suitable for his needs.

  Evolutionary-Psychology, Civil Engineering,
  Computer Graphics, etc.


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:16:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Molly Fanton <>
Subject: XTC Sang with Who?

Mark Newberg asked:

<<Which brings up my question: Has XTC ever
recorded with any other big
named artist or used anyone as backup vocals>>

I know Andy Partridge worked with Thomas Dolby.  He did harmonica work
on TD's song, "Europa and the Pirate Twins."


Molly's Pages


Message-ID: <>
From: "William Sherlock" <>
Subject: greenman
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 0:3:40 -0600

Count me as the parent of a young one who loves "Greenman". My five year
old daughter counts that as her favorite on the album.
A query: was "Nonsuch" ever released on vinyl?

Bill Sherlock


Message-ID: <>
From: "Megan Heller" <>
Subject: Re: Little Express
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:53:08 CST

Joe Jarrett shared his views rather eloquently on the demise of the Little
Express, and concluded--

>I think they deserve a loud resounding round of applause for all their
>work. Thank you Peter and June for a job incredibly well done!!

Agreed.  Its passing makes me a little sad-- I haven't subscribed in a few
years, because moving often made it too complicated for me to subscribe to
anything, but age 13-15 it was an important part of maintaining sanity for



Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:34:09 +0100
Subject: The Little Express.
From: "Per Aronsson" <>

I have been reading The Little Express for many years and i agree with Joe
Jarret (Hi Joe!) that it is very sad that a great fanzine dissappear. I will
also miss all the nice letters from Pete and June that follwed with almost
all issues of LE.

Pete and June, if you are reading this, many thanks from Sweden.

Per Aronsson.


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:13:20 EST
Subject: Freaky Geeks

<< I wonder if there is an e-mail address that we could all write to the
 network (is it NBC?) with letters of support for their song selection
 during this show.  Perhaps congratulating the person(s) who thought of
 putting "No Language In Our Lungs" into this show.....blah blah blah. >>

 Actually they have a whole web site at dedicated to the show.  I
already wrote to them that the chalkhills were a-buzzing.  BTW the next week
must have been Joe Jackson week, they played "I'm The Man" & "Look Sharp."



Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:43:02 -0500
From: Danny Phipps <>
Subject: re: the little express (chalkhills 6_27)

our esteemed information poster, joe jarratt stated in 6_27...

> For all of you who subscribe to the Little Express: I was talking to
> Peter Dix two nights ago and he told me he is in the process of
> sending out the last issue of the LE. After 18 years he's packing it
> in. He regrets having to take this step but after lengthy
> discussions with his partner (June, his wife), they decided they
> have no other alternative.

thanks for reminding everyone again, joe, that these wonderful people
from canada are sadly closing shop on "the little express."  being the
avid and devoted xtc fan that i am (blush), i'm sorry to see them leave.

i used to anxiously await the arrival of my quarterly newsletters from
barrie, ontario and when they would finally arrive, i'd scour over these

informative pamphlets from june and pete repeatedly over and over
and over until all the info on the band would sink in.

> When they first started they were the only source of inside XTC
> news. But with the advent of the Internet and all the websites about
> the band, they know they cannot compete. The Internet is so fast
> that by the time they talk to the band, get the news, write it,
> publish it and send it out, they are months out of date. Now much of
> the news about XTC is released by Andy through friends who then post
> it to Chalkhills. In addition with the loss of Dave Gregory the
> Little Express lost their most reliable source of info and
> pictures. Dave used to make sure the Peter was kept informed and
> supplied with candid shots. So sadly the LE is going to die. It will
> just be an important historical footnote to the band's career. For
> those of us who have all or most of the issues, they will remain as
> accurate documents of the band's history.

an important part of history indeed.  tle's "want ads" section in the
back of every issue started some very memorable friendships for me,
some even going stronger than ever right at the moment.  hang on to
those back issues, subscribers!!  they're now collector's items!

> Andy, Colin and Dave could not have had more dedicated and loyal
> supporters if they hand picked them. From the day that Peter and
> June approached the band backstage after a concert at Massey Hall in
> Toronto in 1980, they have continually protected, defended,
> supported and promoted the band for eighteen years. They are both
> very shy, unassuming people with a passion for XTC. They refuse to
> blow their own horn. They have thoroughly enjoyed the years they put
> in as they had the opportunity to meet the band on many occasions,
> and other luminaries connected to the group. But the part they
> enjoyed the most was the connection they felt with the fans they
> made contact with through the mail and by phone.

and that connection with the fans of xtc kept us all informed more
than anything else, didn't it, joe?  the issues of tle were
consistently filled to the brim with news bits and items of more than
just passing interest.  the bottom line re: tle was
"it...was...READABLE!!"  i don't know about others, but i thoroughly
enjoyed reading every single word in every single issue, you know?

> I for one would like to express publicly my sincere gratitude to
> Peter and June for their years of unselfish work. You can only
> imagine the thousands of hours they put into their magazine:
> interviewing, writing, publishing, compiling, and writing individual
> letters to anyone who took the time to write to them. And all this
> while working regular jobs and raising three children. Remember
> before eBay there was the LE Classifieds, they only way to find like
> minded fans. It is through Peter and June that I first got
> information, addresses for other collectors, and made many valuable
> connections to other XTC fans. Don't forget that Peter and June
> organized and ran the very successful Canadian edition of the XTC
> Music and Friends Convention in Barrie. They were also the people
> who released Jules Verne Sketchbook, Windowbox and The Bull With The
> Golden Guts.

indeed!  i for one was lucky enough to get an original edition of "the
bull..."  before it sold out.  i didn't get there in time though for
"jules..."  but c'est la vie.  i, too, wish to express my sincerest
thanks and gratitude to both of these wonderful, wonderful people who
went the extra mile to make sure that all fans of xtc were kept
informed and up to date on the goings-on of "the swindon three (
two)."  thank you, june and pete!  you have started something here
with us xtc fans that has gradually snowballed over the years into
something more than just xtc information.  you are now both indeed a
part of xtc history!!!  (you lucky people!)

> I hope this doesn't sound too much like a lecture. But I couldn't
> let the demise of the Little Express and recognition of all the
> effort put forth by Peter and June go unheralded. It was one of the
> finest fanzines ever written about any band. If any of you feel so
> inclined you can still reach them the usual way. The post office box
> number will remain active for the foreseeable future.

you bet!  i'll for sure contact them and let them know how much their
efforts to inform and enlighten have done just that -- informed and
enlightened.  the little express shall always and forever remain an im-
portant and vital part within my own personal xtc history book!  i
hope others will feels the same way who know june and pete wither
personally or via the fanzine.

> I think they deserve a loud resounding round of applause for all their
> work. Thank you Peter and June for a job incredibly well done!!

clap!  clap!  clap!  :-)

...and not just applause, joe, but a standing ovation at that!!
cheers to you, june and pete!  good job!  may your "retirement" days
be filled with the joy of knowing the many friends you've made through
the publication of tle and the ongoing friendships via the fanzine as
well!  best of luck to you both from a fan in north carolina!!

...and thanks, joe jarratt, for pointing this most important newsletter
out to those who may not be aware of it and its vital role within the
history of our boys (past and present):  andy, colin, dave, barry, and

long live the memory of the little express!!!

/dan phipps

"i would have made this instrumental, but the
 words got in the way."  (andy partridge)


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:48:31 -0600
From: "Todd Bernhardt" <>
Organization: Enterworks, Inc.
Subject: RIP LE


Joe Jarrett articulately shared the bad news about The Little Express,
summing up just about everything I feel about June, Pete and the fine
little labor of love that used to come out four times a year. I can
only add a few memories to back up the points he made so well.

I remember that I used to eagerly await each issue, reading it
immediately upon arrival to find out what the band had been doing and
was planning to do, what critics and others were saying about them,
and what fans had to say and trade.  The Little Express was the first
confirmation for me that I was not alone in the world as an XTC fan,
that there were others as (or more) dedicated to the band and its art
as I.

The LE was my XTC digest, my resource -- how else could I read
interviews with Andy, et. al., that were published in magazines or
newspapers in England, Europe or other strange and exotic locales? In
the 1980s this beast now known as the World Wide Web wasn't there to
connect us and make time and distance almost irrelevant. The LE
provided an entertaining and enlightening glimpse into the workings of
the band (the issue that came out after the recording of Skylarking
especially springs to mind), and into the minds of its members and

June and Pete are wonderful, approachable, patient people. When I, in
an egotistic delusional haze, thought that Andy Partridge would
actually want to listen to one of my bands' musical output, they
forwarded the falling-far-short-of-XTC tapes and fawning letters to
him. When it came time for my first pilgrimage to England and --
naturally -- Swindon, Pete responded to my frantic request (it was one
or two days before leaving for England, and Swindon's lodging options
ain't exactly in the travel books), calling DC from Barrie to steer me
toward a nice B&B in the city. When I moved, they always responded to
my change-of-address forms with a nice note and flawless service. Even
when they couldn't help me -- for instance, when I was trying to score
a copy of Windowbox -- I could always tell it was never through lack
of trying.

When the most-recent issue came out in September 1998, I had high
hopes that the LE could continue. The issue was focused and raw,
containing a perspective on the band and Dave's departure that I
hadn't seen anywhere else, including here. At the same time, I can
understand why June and Pete decided to turn off the presses -- it's
tough to compete with the real-time medium of the Internet and, as Joe
pointed out, dear departed Dave was indeed a great source of
information for the newsletter.

So now I'll wait by the mailbox one last time. Rest in Peace, Little
Express.  You'll live on in the fond memories of many a rabid XTC fan,
including this one.  And to June and Pete, thank you for everything,
and best wishes for a peaceful and prosperous future.



Message-ID: <>
From: "Brian Young" <>
Subject: Billy Nicholls or Fred Neil
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:57:59 EST

Dear Chalkolots,

Anyone who bought the recent Billy Nicholls cds or the Fred Neil, please
contact me off list.




Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:47:18 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <>
From: brown <>
Subject: How XTC saved my life!

Greetings to all!

        After reading the last digest (#27) I felt rather dejected.  So many
goodbyes..the LE...the Nigels...Chipping Norton Studios.....what a downer!
It was the proverbial straw that broke this fragile camel's  back....I
decided to seal up the windows and be done with it didn't take me
long to realize that my heating pad, though set on 'high', would never
create the carbon monoxide necessary to succeed....Thank Ganesha for this
eleventh-hour revelation because only then did I remember that AV2 was about
to appear on the horizon!!  Land Ho!!  I've been saved!!
        But seriously, to June and Peter, your devotion and loyalty to those
gear gents from Swindon shall not go unrecognized...three cheers for you
        Regarding Murgatroyd Llewellyn's post in digest seems like
every third or so frame is I may not be the brightest jewel in
the crown (amen!) but am I alone in my confusion?  Please send me some sort
of template that I can place over my computer screen so I may decipher your
esoteric script...danke!
        Stepping back to it available for advanced order-if so, has
anyone done so?  Where and how much?  Please e-mail me directly...thank you
very kindly....

Back to the merry-go-round!


Debora Brown

*** A fond farewell to Charles will be missed ***


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:48:43 EST
Subject: Critix o' Discernment and Taste

>From: "Ralph Simpson DeMarco" <>
>Subject: XTC is #33

>Ok, it's another list, but our boys are on this one! The weekly New York
>City paper, The Village Voice, has just released this year's Pazz & Jop
>Poll (no that is not a typo).

Accordion to the Voice website, the annual Pazz and Jop poll (which dates
back to the early Sixties--hence the charmingly dated equivalency implicit in
the name) works in this way:

     This poll combines ballots from 489 critics, who divided
     100 points among 10 1999 albums. Maximum per album: 30.
     Minimum: 5. Points determined placement, with total
     mentions (indicated in parenthesis) used for tie breaking.

Twenty-three critics out of the 489 polled placed AV1 in their top ten. Of
these 23, these following intelligent and discriminating gentlemen placed it
in their top three:

   - Steve Matteo #2 with 14 pts
   - Bob Grossweiner #3 with 14 pts
   - William Ruhlmann #3 with 13 pts

But the highest accolades go to the following stalwart and brainy
individuals, who considered it the best album of 1999:

   - Mac Randall
   - Ken Richardson

Randall, who gave the album the maximum allowable 30 points, is (as far as
I'm able to ferret out) a writer for the Boston Phoenix and one helluva guy.
I couldn't find anything about Richardson.

As Ralph points out, Homespun achieved #423 on the list on the shoulders of
the Australian (it appears) Don Share, who out of some strange eccentricity
deemed it his Number One album of 1999. He gave it 20 points, ranking it
above efforts from Jason Falkner, Super Furry Animals, Robyn Hitchcock, and
The Lilac Time (in case you were wondering where his head's at!)
Interestingly, he makes no mention of Apple Venus Volume 1. I'd just love to
buttonhole this guy and hear his reasoning. Anyone forwarding a functioning
email address for Mr. Share will win my heartfelt whatchmacallit.

Not particularly a propos of anything, but buttressing some points I was
trying to make late last year, the following quote appeared in the editorial
matter accompanying the poll results:

     Rock is like a fallen tree. Dead and rotting, it will sustain
     whole microecosystems of bugs, toads, fungi, mosses, for
     decades to come--teeming populations of minuscule critters
     living off its moribund tissue, its necrotic myth-flesh of
     gesture and expression. Sure you can focus on a specific
     fungus-patch or toad-clutch (e.g. thrash/death/black metal
     or emocore) and perceive virulent vitality. But the tree,
     the overarching macro-myth, is still dead.
                        --Simon Reynolds, Manhattan

Also, from the inimitable Chuck Eddy, this far more cheerful image, which I
agree with 100%:

     I wound up digging both the big Backstreet Boys hits, but
     those guys' problem is that they're not bubblegum *enough*:
     They're way too indebted to the adult-oriented ballads of
     Boyz II Men. I couldn't imagine Betty of the Archies
     shaking a tambourine to their music.

Harrison "Hey Jughead, where are you?" Sherwood


Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:56:41 -0500
Subject: Don't bother me! I'm laying pipe! Now let's see... Another water
From: "Duncan Watt" <>

"Murgatroyd Llewellyn" <> spake:

> XTC content: Bonus track on AVII for the really friendly hangers-on
> will be "In A (Or Multiple) Badger(s), With Love (Reprise)". Now prove
> your really friendliness, or you won't get the bonus track, for all I
> care, Esq.

Interesting. So the *official* way to spell "AVII" is "AVII". Cool. Now
don't no-one give him a copy of SimCity 2000, or the mastering process is
going to take *forever*...

Duncan "Bonus Cato" Watt

ps "Warcraft", either

email me:
surf me:


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:37:48 EST
Subject: The new Colin Moulding CD!


In Chalkhills Digest #6-26, John Boudreau said:

> How many of Colin's tunes will appear on Vol. 2 ? As long as he is content
>to contribute a tune or two to future projects we have no reason to worry
>about the the boys splitting up methinks .
>I worry ever so slightly that IF I am right and Colin has lost his muse ,
>will that cause him to eventually lose interest in working with Andy
>in the future ?

Then Eric Loehr commented on the subject.  So I thought I'd stir this
simmering pot a bit with my right hand while turning up the heat with my

Last year in Fright X magazine Andy & Colin were interviewed...the
following is an excerpt from the Colin portion:

There was quite a period between albums this time.  Do you see that
happening again after you releasee Vol 2 or will you put out records more

Who knows what will happen.  You can't really say, you know?  I don't know
if we'll even be together as a band, I mean nothing is planned but we both
still love music and we'll be making records either separate or together.
You just can't say.  I didn't know it was going to last this long, you

I was just going to ask you how you could be skeptical about that when
you've been together for twenty years.

There's always the possibility that you might not be making records
together and that's okay.  It's not the end of the world, you know.  If
you still like music then what's a name?

Take it as you will my chalk covered friends.

wesLONG @ Optimism's Flames:


Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:11:51 -0500
From: David Oh <>
Subject: re: Chalkhills / Freaks

>I didn't see the "Freaks & Geeks" episode but reading all the
>descriptions of it got me thinking...
>I wonder if there is an e-mail address that we could all write to the
>network (is it NBC?) with letters of support for their song selection
>during this show.  Perhaps congratulating the person(s) who thought of
>putting "No Language In Our Lungs" into this show.....blah blah blah.
>Why?  Because they deserve it (and it might happen again).
>I will look for something and encourage fellow chalkers to do the same.
>~~Jim "waiting for AV2, demo-less, and proud of it" White

well, if you go to the "f&g" page at - or go straight there with
this link
( ) - you'll see a
little comment that i left immediately after the airing of that particular
show, including a little plug for (it's about half-way down
the page). i wanted to leave a more definitive comment, but they want you
to join something called before you can leave any other comments.
however, in the words of groucho marx, i refuse to join any club that would
have me as a member...

except chalkhills, of course!

 peace & xtc,



Message-Id: <v04220800b4d26662f2d3@[]>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:15:34 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: 5 Senses

At 6:36 PM -0800 2/16/00, Molly wrote:
>Next Friday, I'm planning on going to Toronto for the very first time
>by myself.  I'm trying to find out what to do.  I know I want to do
>some shopping.  I'm staying at a hotel in downtown Toronto in the
>theater district.  So do you have any suggestions on what to do?
>Also, do you think they would have any different XTC CDs in Canada.
>What I mean were there any XTC albums that were only released in
>Canada and not the US?

   As one who grew up in Canada and brought at least two or three of
my XTC LPs there(boy, I've dated myself), I can say the only Canadian
only release I know of is the 5 Senses EP, which includes "Smokeless
Zone," "Officer Blue," "Wait Till Your Boat Goes Down," "Don't Lose
Your Temper," and "Strange Tales, Strange Tails." tThe only one from
that album I'd put on an XTC compilation for newbies would be
"Smokeless Zone," I don't particularly care for the rest of it, not
their best work IMO. I'm amazed they even consider WTYBGD wothy of
release as a single, it just might qualify as their worst single
ever. I find it about as fun to listen to as chasing parked cars. I
love "Smokeless Zone," though. It's a weird little song, but I find
it oddly addictive. I think it's one of Colin's best, though I hear
he doesn't think much of it.
   Anyway, I believe most of the 5 senses EP can be found on the CD
release of Black sea anyway, so most of you probably have it in that
form. I have the LP myself, so I'm glad to have 5 Senses anyway.
Though it's not XTC's best work, what the hell, XTC at their worst
are still better than 99% of what's out there.

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at

"A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has 10
GREAT laws.  A Good law protects me from you.  Laws against murder, theft,
assault and the like are good laws.  A Poor law attempts to protect me
from myself."  - Unknown


Message-ID: <>
Subject: I know I'm a geek when...
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:16:23 EST

I just had a few amusing things happen (really non-events, but they made
me chuckle.)

For Valentine's Day, along with my valentine from my husband, there was a
valentine with the return address reading "A. Partridge, Swindon,
England."  My husband is really good natured about my silliness. I then
opened, along with my chocolates, a bottle of white wine from
California. The brand name?  Chalk Hill. That will undoubtedly be held
onto until some rabid fan gathering, I'm sure.

Then yesterday I had a client who had just been transferred here from the
UK. We were chatting and chuckling about our cultural differences, and we
got to the subject of our rotaries/their roundabouts, when she mentioned
that in her hometown that they had this roundabout with five entrances....
Hmm, perhaps the "magic roundabout?" when she mentions that yes indeed
she's from Swindon when I meekly mention that my favorite band is from
there, XTC, and she gets this 'deer in the headlights' look... Oh, if she
had only said that she was his next door neighbor...

           Busily constucting the definitive AP shrine,


Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:59:11 -0500
From: David Oh <>
Subject: Re: Kate Bush

>From: Mark Newberg <>
>Have you ever dusted off an old favorite cd of yours and been reminded
>that it was once your favorite. As I type 'Hounds Of Love' is in the
>old player. I just love the drums in 'Running Up That Hill'.

actually, i'm more partial to her earlier work, especially the album "never
forever". it contains some of her best work, including "baboushka" (sp?)
and "breathing". one listen to "breathing" and you'll know...

besides that, her first album was produced by david gilmour of pink floyd
fame. not bad credentials...

 peace & xtc,



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