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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 274

               Thursday, 21 September 2000

Topics:

              The Negro Problem LIVE in L.A.
                      difficult age
                    It's Raining Rain
You *know* she's not messin' when she brings home the Wesson...
                   public embarrassment
            Remade, Remodeled and Remoulded...
                   An Evening Of Genius
                    rain rain go away
                          Funny
       XTC Fall Down, And Can't Get Back Up! (MP3s)
        A naked lunch with Venus (apples included)
              The Dome... a differing view.
                  Re: xtc? I should say.
              Re: AV1 better than Wasp Star?
                   Annoying our parents
                       Countdown...
              RE: There's no place like Dome

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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:09:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brown <mb2@deltanet.com>
Subject: The Negro Problem LIVE in L.A.
Message-ID: <200009200509.WAA29256@mail2.deltanet.com>

Hey gummi bears!

A little concert alert for you L.A. area Chalkers:

The Negro Problem is opening for Counting Crows at the Greek Theatre 9/25..

Debora Brown

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:59:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thomas Long <thlong@interchange.ubc.ca>
Subject: difficult age
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0009200944450.29406-100000@inch.interchange.ubc.ca>

Pink things,

Ok, I've loathed the last couple of threads (if I hear about another
concert I'm going to be spewing chunks at the monitor). With this in mind,
I humbly humbly offer up a new thread for your perusal... if you dislike
it I will be hurt and quite possibly cry (*sniff*):

One of my fave xtc tunes, right up there with Wrapped in Grey, is
Difficult Age. I find the lyrics spot on. But Andy, you've left us
hanging!! Has anyone seen 7/14/28/35 etc up? What if Andy were to update
Difficult Age and add a new verse... he's covered 14/18/29/38, how about
45? I would think divorce & a prostate would certainly figure prominently.

Thomas, just because

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:32:43 -0600
From: KirK.Gill@equifax.com
Subject: It's Raining Rain
Message-ID: <85256960.005B14E2.00@noteswetc15.fin.equifax.com>

Ok. I give in. I must tell everyone to go out and buy the CD "Good" by
Morphine.  On that disc, they will discover the song "You Look Like Rain,"
which is one of the great mood-setters of all time.

Put this disc on, turn the lights down low, grab your significant other
and see what develops. This is one of the great nookie records. Bottom
line.

XTC content?

I must say that the there's no one XTC disc that's great for use as sexual
encounter music. There's always that one tune that kills the mood. AV1
probably comes closest, but then "Your Dictionary" comes
on....................

k

"for a million years he has been your lover"

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:09:03 -0400
From: "Todd Bernhardt" <todd.bernhardt@enterworks.com>
Subject: You *know* she's not messin' when she brings home the Wesson...
Message-ID: <39C8C4FF.1BBFAB4@enterworks.com>
Organization: Enterworks, Inc.

Hi:

Tyler Hewitt said:
>maybe an interesting variation would be songs that are
>not particularly sad in themselves, but are sad by
>association for us.
>any takers?

What a great idea, Tyler! Here goes:

Thirty minutes after my microcephalic Cousin Skeezix ran over my beloved
mole rat Bucephalus with his Vespa, I lay prostrate behind the family
Winnebago, my lips embracing firmly the grand old motor home's tailpipe,
tasting the exhaust as it filled my lungs with the sweet harbinger of
relief...

Huh? Wuzzat? He DID?!? Dammit, Harrison, I told you not to tell *anyone*
about that! Last time I get drunk and play "true confessions" with
you...

Take it back, or I'll post what you told me about the cucumber, the
anthill, and that bottle of Wesson oil signed by Florence Henderson.

-Todd "Puntura Ridicolo" Bernhardt

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:37:44 CDT
From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com>
Subject: public embarrassment
Message-ID: <F172DIT6bB5Rw1SSfWX0000014a@hotmail.com>

Harrison related a touching story from his childhood--
>
>"To this day, I cannot listen to Jim Nabors' exquisite rendering of
>"Love Is Blue" (Columbia CK-44404)--for that is of course the song
>that I overheard--without a pang of complex longing, leavened with
>tenderness and an awareness of the fleeting nature of life...."

okay, this is yet another reason why I need to buy another computer.  I will
end up having a brain hemorrage from supressing laughter in a public
computer lab, not to mention that the shaking from said supressed laughter
tends to make the others in the lab think  I'm having one of my "spells".

damn.  I'm going to be laughing about that one for a while.  Especially "The
Love that Dare Not Squeak its Name"-- I'm going to have trouble writing a
few papers on homosexual Victorians.  (And, yes, I've written several.)

agh...grad school=goodbye to sleep. It's taking a while to get back into
this whole school thing.

XTC content-- erm... nope, none, sorry.

m.

np: Gary Numan, Premier Hits

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:26:45 EDT
From: WTDK@aol.com
Subject: Remade, Remodeled and Remoulded...
Message-ID: <37.a72d12b.26faa1b5@aol.com>

> On the other hand, as long as we're re-writing history, everyone with a
>  CD-burner should replace the original "Dear God" with Sarah M's version.

Interesting choice Steve but I'd still have to go for the Xtc's version.
Rundgren does a bang up job on the production and that little girl that sings
the intro captures my attention every time.  Sarah M's is a bit too sensual
for my taste (that wouldn't be bad if it wasn't an angry open letter).

Still, she does do a very good job. The best remake in my mind is Ruben
Blades The Man Who Sailed....(and let's not forget Terry and the Lovemen on
The Good Things)

XTC content... listened to my CD of "Drums and Wires" the other day,
and I'd never noticed it before, but I have one of the ones with the
incorrect track listing and missing track. Anyone know of the
scarcity of these? Should I eBay it and earn millions? (All talking
backwards...)

To the best of my knowledge it's pretty common. At least I hope so (I traded
mine in sometime ago).I don't believe that Virgin ever corrected their
version (although Geffen Records fixed it and added a lyric book to boot.
They must have used the Japanese master and artwork).

Finally, the sad songs thread -- I'd add Nilsson's remake of Fred Neil's
Everybody's Talking At Me. Also, Remember (again by Nilsson). OK, have
nothing let to say worthwhile....

Wayne

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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:49:28 +0200
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Subject: An Evening Of Genius
Message-ID: <20000920234239.37C2BA6D1F@mail.knoware.nl>

Calling all Dutch Chalkers - and other Euro-zoners

Now is your chance to see the gentle guitar god in action!

Dave Gregory will perform live, as part of Steve Hogarth's band 'h',
at the Tivoli in Utrecht (NL) on October 31th.
That's almost in my own backyard, btw... fancy that!

Tickets are already on sale at the usual places @ 40 guilders

I saw them at Dingwalls in London last August and they positively
rocked. Dave enjoyed himself tremendously and treated us to lots of
licks, amazing arpeggios and riveting riffs. The band played a
neatly balanced set of own material and surprising covers.

A full review of the proceedings at Dingwalls, including some nice
photos, has been published in the News section at
http://www.guitargonauts.com

So, be there or be square !

Mark Strijbos
webmaster@guitargonauts.com

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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 01:00:21 +0000
From: The Worrier Queen <myrone@tesco.net>
Subject: rain rain go away
Message-ID: <39C95DA1.DFD217A0@tesco.net>

Misty Shock wrote in Chalkhills 269:

> It made me wonder -- why hasn't this theme of rain
> been used more in pop music?

- Raindrops keep falling on my head (the Manics version please)
Singin' in the Rain
Rainy Days & Mondays Get Me Down-

See Mike's list.
See also Smudge's list - (how you doin' Smudge).
And Klaus?
well you can have a medal with all the extra bits,
Now don't do it again.

There you are, more water than the average day during a (cricket) Test match.

Can we stop now?  I'm getting rising damp somewhere obscure.

Aren't you the lucky girl then Debora.  Thought about sculpting XTC in
all that spam?

Thanks to all you translators out there - one less thing to worry about.

> Anyway, don't you try to tell me they don't have gas in Britain. Have you
> seen what those people *eat*?
Harrison - ever tried haggis, tatties & neeps? (she said lapsing into
the vernacular)
You could power most of world if you can convert it to electricity.
The Push Your Car bit was sublime - we is amused.

Mr Easter
> Tuck thine head between thy legs and kiss thine arse
> adieu...
Can I have a tee shirt with that on please?  To go with the SYWPTYRP one
I want.

I now have access to an MP3 of King Trigger's River - yes it's still pretty
good especially the drumming.  I am a happy bunny.

Cath in NY
I'm not going to say that this album's good & this one isn't.
They all have good points & they all have bad bits.  Bit like humans.
If the earlier stuff works better for you that's great.
So I'm just sitting on the fence on this one and I'm going to be a pain
in the arse and agree to differ.
If the earlier stuff works better for you that's great.

However as I've had Big Express for a little while thought I'd add my
10p's worth.
(Not sure what that is in cents but it's probably not worth the effort
to change it.)

Best bit on it:
The opening to Reign of Blows.
Always makes me want to get up & try banging my feet on the floor like a
demented flamenco dancer.  Pity the people below me.
I just love that harmonica.

Bit I have problems with:
All You Pretty Girls.
It's not the song as such, it's just that it conjures up visions of Top
of the Pops (when it was on Thursdays) and all I can see is Pan's
People/Legs & Co dancing to this.
Badly.
(Anyone who has ever seen Orange Juice's Rip It Up as "interpreted" by
the above will know precisely what I mean.)

Bit that messes with my brain:
Shake Your Donkey Up.
Just how do you shake a donkey up?  Stick it on a trampoline?
As Rory might say Mr Partridge is doing more damage to ungulates.
Fun though.

Bit that I imagined differently.
Seagulls-
Before splashing out on Big Express, I'd read what people has said
about this track & I thought it would sound a bit like I Can't Own Her.
Whoops.  Wrong planet.

Best Colin song:
I Remember the Sun
No arguing.  This is it.

Nostalgic bit:
Red Brick Dream
When I was a lot younger, and smaller, than I am now Swindon didn't
mean book clubs, cars or (mea culpa) XTC.  It meant trains.  My family
has been working for GWR (the Great Way Round or God's Wonderful
Railway), then BR, for a long time.  You can, cough, cough, almost smell
the,
cough, dirty black smoke.

Sniffly bit:
This World Over.
'Nough said.

Gets me out of bed bit:
Come on, you've probably worked this one out.
Wake Up.
Try it.  You shouldn't oversleep ever again.
If reality's like this I want out. Now.

Can you play this at my funeral bit:
Train Running Low on Soul Coal.
Wish I'd had this when I was thirty just for the puppy lyric.
Remind me again, what's so good about getting old?

Finally (aren't you glad?) I'm serving up this question for all you
Chalkhillians:
Which song out of the whole XTC catalogue wouldn't you miss if it were
to totally disappear from this bit of the Universe?

I'm offering up Dear God.
I hate the kid and the lyrics are about as subtle as the proverbial
flying mallet.
If you love this, then good for you.  I can't and please don't try to
convert me, I'll just get tetchy and you wouldn't like me when I'm tetchy.

SNAFU*
Jayne the Worrier Queen

He Toi Whakairo He Mana Tangata
Where there is artistic excellence, there is human dignity.
Maori saying

* Smarties Not Available For Underlings in case you were curious.

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:35:18 -0700
From: Ed Kedzierski <ed.kedzierski@chromaticsoftware.com>
Subject: Funny
Message-ID: <08B5DDC2BABCD311BFC6005004A884B013B806@mgcservices.com>

In 6-272, Robert Wood took the words right out of my mouth when he said:
>I'd like to forward Futurama as the funniest cartoon.
I couldn't agree more -  this show has been relentlessly amusing since it
started, and has really overtaken the Simpsons in terms of laugh density per
episode and "on" episodes per season; it's like the majority of the episodes
are as funny as the less common better Simpsons episodes, if that makes any
sense (although the "behind the laughter" Simpsons from last season was one
of the funniest recent ones). By the way, does anyone find the early
Simpsons episodes with the different animation/drawing style (and creepily
"unformed" character voices) almost unbearable to watch?

Of course, the Tick was usually good for quite a few laughs, with some
really great episodes standing out, but there just weren't enough of them -
now there's a series that should have gone on longer (I know, there's
supposed to be a live action one starting this season, but we'll see...)
Last night I saw "the Tick's moustache" episode, and was just killing myself
("that moustache kinda feelin'...")

The Family Guy... hmm. I've seen bits that have made me laugh, but something
about it just doesn't appeal to me, it seems forced or contrived somehow.
(And I'm not overly fond of the style it's drawn in.)

"This Program Has Been Modified To Fit Your Primitive Screen"

Ed K.

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:49:45 CDT
From: "vee tube" <veetube@hotmail.com>
Subject: XTC Fall Down, And Can't Get Back Up! (MP3s)
Message-ID: <F327e9F6EBSotwBP8xi000004ce@hotmail.com>

        Hi! There! Hey! There! Ho! There!
          We're as drunk as we can be!

   I guess Andy and the guys used to drunk a lot.
  Sometimes they even jammed, and taped it. I drunk
  too!

   So last night this weird 'Corndog@fart' E's me, and
  says, "I like you Kinkyfish idrive". "Me heave more too"
  Uhmmm...

           ...I decided not to reply.

    But, it/what, also included a link to a long forgotten
  XTC MP3 site.

      http://www.orangetwin.com/drunken/drunken.html

    These are the infamous 'English Settlement' drunken jam
  sessions. They're 160Kbps MP3s, and the sound quality is
  *way* above average.

    So grab a cold one,kick back,and see if you can get as drunk
  as these guys! And let's  also tip one back for this...

              ...Cornfart Doghole guy!

   Seriously,this ain't my stuff! I wish I had a page like this
            to share my MP3s witch'ya all.

                    }---:)

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:10:19 EDT
From: WTDK@aol.com
Subject: A naked lunch with Venus (apples included)
Message-ID: <82.e44f6f.26fad61b@aol.com>

Smudgeboy -
> Steely Dan are quintessentially West coast America - laid back jazzy
>  riifs, with an undercurrent of East coast hidden sleaze. XTC are (you
>  see where I'm going here?) quintessentially English, with in-your-face
>  pop riffs layered with orchestral arrangements. One would almost say
>  "quirky". (Joke, honest!).

Actually would have to disagree with you. Steely Dan is East Coast America
with West coast sleaze in the middle (kind of like an Oreo). Becker & Fagen
went west because that's where the music biz was based at the time. I
actually hear more West coast America in early SD vs. later Dan (which,
again, sounds more East coast).

Otherwise I agree with you.  The only parallel is the fact that they are both
duos. You could add quirky perhaps as well (although there are lots of quirky
bands). Their devotion to songcraft notwithstanding, they are completely
dissimilar  in terms of content, context and musical style.

Fenn said-

>XTC sound like two men in search of inspiration. their last two albums have
included no end of 'clunkers', (see the above)  relieved by a great songs,
'Easter Theatre' an example.

I personally love AV1 and WS has grown on me. I look at WS as an outgrowth of
Andy's frustration at not being able to do the bubblegum project at Virgin.
So I like both of them a great deal for very different reasons. You could
make the same argument about a lot of their albums depending upon whether
they do or do not appeal to you. I personally have fav moments even on the
weakest Xtc album.

So, in short, I disagree about AV1 and WS but agree that a lot of the
artist's you listed have released some might fine music.

Interesting question on the previous post about the Japanese import. Is the
domestic version (UK, US, Canadian, etc.) also in HDCD format? I know the
first couple of Kinks reissues failed to mention they were HDCD.

Since I know more about music (which isn't a heck of a lot) than engineering
maybe someone can explain something to me re: HDCD. I was under the
impression that HDCD wasn't necessarily 24 bit. HDCD was a process for
improving the sonic quality of the CD and adding warmth to the recording. Is
that correct? I'm out of my depth here folks. I just know what sounds great
and what sounds like crap.

WS sounds pretty darn good.

Listening to Steely Dan by the light of Venus

Wayne

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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:29:47 +0100
From: James.McRae@enron.com
Subject: The Dome... a differing view.
Message-ID: <OF8C7B656A.3756558F-ON80256961.002B108A@nt.enron.co.uk>

David wrote in praise of the Dome.......

I also went (last Sunday).

I found the show excruciating, and I found large parts of the Dome
disappointing - lowest common denominator appeared to be too high a target
to aim for. (e.g. the Work Zone was a big advert for the sponsor and four
large game tables (pac man - (yeah really)..., Table football, a maths quiz
- (oh god!) and a large version of one of those sliding 3x3 letter
puzzles).  The overwhelming size of the place was the only really
impressive thing, but unfortunately it threw into sharp contrast the amount
of space that there was there (i.e. the amount of Dome not used).  In
contrast to David (I respect your opinions, but disagree) I feel that PC is
probably what prevented the Dome designers taking risks and being more
innovative and adventurous with the content.

I found myself thinking that we had not got an awful lot for a |50 entry
fee.  I couldn't get out of my head that in addition to my entry fee, the
people of Britain had paid in lottery sales and taxes approximately |200
towards my visit, |200 towards my wife's visit |200 to my children's visit,
as they had for every other person there.

I'm not saying that there should be cuts in subsidies for the arts - on the
contrary, success in both art and sport represent a big prestige and
cultural gain for a country using a relatively small outlay, but to blow
all that cash on something so empty-headed is nigh on criminal.  |750
million would have endowed a new art school at a university, or protected
and purchased thousands of playing fields.

In spite of all this, if you are in the London area and can get reduced
price tickets (don't pay |20 - its not worth it), go - you will be amazed
to see how money can be blown.... (they are also selling some great Dome
tat at vastly reduced prices - it is soo bad, it's good!)

rgds

James

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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:27:55 -0400
From: "Tim Kendrick" <tim63@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: xtc? I should say.
Message-ID: <002401c023b6$9d05d8c0$68951b3f@tim63>

Hi everyone!

   >Is it just me or are others feeling that xtc
   >reached their peak a few years ago?
Well, I think it's you and maybe a couple of others.
But I'm sure that the majority think that AV1 & AV2(WS)
are the best things XTC have ever put out.
(And I'm definitely with the majority on this.)

   >XTC sound like two men in search of inspiration.
   >their last two albums have
   >included no end of 'clunkers', (see the above)
   >relieved by a great songs, 'Easter Theatre' an example.
I guess you think there are more "clunkers" than good songs.
I strongly disagree.  Yes, there are a couple of songs that
don't do much for me ("I Can't Own Her" and "Wounded Horse"
almost always get skipped when I'm playing the CDs.)

But if you want "inspiration", look no further than:
  "River of Orchids", "Easter Theatre", "Green Man",
  "Your Dictionary", "Fruit Nut", "Harvest Festival", "Boarded Up",
  "Church of Women" and "The Wheel and the Maypole".
These nine songs are more inspired than anything XTC have ever
done before.

Better than "Dear God", more powerful than "Train Running Low...",
able to leap "Jump" in a single .... well you get the idea.

I my opinion, the 9 songs listed above are better than any other
songs in the XTC catalogue.  I think that with AV1&AV2 that XTC
have NOW reached their peak.  I think it unlikely they will ever come
up with something better than these 9 songs.  But who knows - they
could surprise me again!

Later!

XTC SONG OF THE DAY:  Harvest Festival

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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:22:56 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net>
Subject: Re: AV1 better than Wasp Star?
Message-ID: <l03130300b5ef9d0b75ef@[208.13.202.242]>

>> XTC content.....I like AV1 better than Wasp Star. Any takers?
>
>Have to agree with you there. I'll probably be tarred and feathered for
>this, but Wasp Star is actually my least favorite XTC album at the
>moment. (At least, it's the one that I least often have the urge to play.)
>The only song on it that I really love is The Wheel & the Maypole. The
>album is electric, but it just doesn't have that spastic energy that
>powered their first few albums. Probably the previous album it most
>resembles is The Big Express, which is incidentally one of my favorites,
>probably because it was their most mature album yet at that point but
>still had remnants of that energy.
>
>Sylvan

  Me three, I still am awed by AVI, I think it's the best thing XTC's ever
done. Wasp Star is crisp and punchy and goes down like a good chinese
dinner, but like a good chinese dinner it leaves me hungry and empty after
an hour or two. It also suffers from that lack of extra layering that made
all their albums distinctive that I didn't notice until it was gone, it's
called Dave Gregory. His input gave XTC that extra something that would
have made Wasp Star a great rather than good pop album. Now that the New
XTC Album luster has worn off, it's not my first choice for my own
enjoyment, but before I get tarred and feathered, it's possibly the first
album I'd take out to play to an XTC newbie. It's their most accessible,
and there's nothing on it particularly difficult or off-putting. Somehow
Mummer would be too scary for Air Supply fans, for example, speaking of
"Human Alchemy"- it's rather bloody-minded of Andy to start off an album
side with that one.

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at
http://homepages.together.net/~cauldron/homepage.html

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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:41:09 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net>
Subject: Annoying our parents
Message-ID: <l03130301b5efa1d495d2@[208.13.202.97]>

>Possible new thread? "Music you never expected Dad/Mum would like".
>
>This was suggested by an incident that happened to me earlier this year. My
>dad, a fairly typical '70s parent,  spent most of my teen years reciting the
>conventional Generation Gap mantras -- "You call that music? That's not
>music!", "Look at that long-haired animal!" "Turn that bloody jungle music
>down" "They're all a bunch of druggists" etc etc. The fact that my earliest
>music exposures were relatively MOR offerings like Elton John and Cat
>Stevens (I know, I know) gives you some idea of how conservative their
>tastes are. Needless to say the shit really hit the fan when I discovered
>stuff like Lou Reed and Led Zeppelin.

  I believe I mentioned my mother's pricking up her ears at Captain
Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica, which was actually designed to annoy her.
Considering she used to listen to jazz in college I shouldn't have been
surprised. She's also enjoyed the Richard Thompson I've played her,
particular the Industry album he did with Danny Thompson(no relation)a few
years ago, which was more jazzy than anything else he's done. She'd
probably find AVI interesting. As for my father, his taste runs mostly to
church music, show tunes, and believe it or not, Spike Jones and cowboy
singers like Gene Autry. He's been patient with the alt-country stuff I've
brought down to his summer house in NH, but he tends to get restless after
a while and starts mumbling about how he thought it was his house. We share
taste in comedy though; I don't have to ask him twice to put on one of his
Monty Python tapes. He's obsessed with the Being Eaten By A Crocodile
contest for some reason. I'm waiting to see what he thinks of Bill Hicks.

Christopher R. Coolidge

"A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has
10 GREAT laws.  A Good law protects me from you.  Laws against murder,
theft, assault and the like are good laws.  A Poor law attempts to
protect me from myself."  - Unknown

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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:26:21 -0400
From: MinerWerks <dminer@gte.net>
Subject: Countdown...
Message-ID: <a04310100b5ef806f712a@[63.25.149.138]>

Greetings, Chalkers...

I've been batting about this idea for a while, and now that fall is
upon us, I think it's time to spring it on you... (no pun intended!)

Every year I spend my weeks leading up to Christmas assembling an
audio collection of unusual holiday tunes. An idea that really
excited me was to assemble a Chalkhills holiday collection. I would
love to put together a holiday CD *by* people on this list *for*
people on this list.

So, I need to hear from anyone interested in contributing to a
Chalkhills Holiday CD. I'm willing to entertain any ideas for song
contributions, including songs on *all* forms of year-end
celebrations - Christmas, New Year's, Chanukah, Kwaanza, Boxing Day
(not very exciting in song, I assume, but...), and any other
celebrations I may have forgotten or never knew of. Heck, I assume
this will be finished in December, but I'm willing to entertain
Thanksgiving songs.

I'd be especially tickled if some of the uber-creative people in here
would reinterpret known holiday tunes in the mold of an XTC number,
or rewrite the words of an XTC tune in the spirit of the holidays. Of
course the thing that first pops into mind is doing a cover of the
three tunes I can think of relating to the holidays ("Thanks for
Christmas," "Countdown to Christmas Party Time" and "Always Winter,
Never Christmas" - not explicitly about the holidays, I know...). Of
course, everyone wouldn't be able to choose that last option, or this
would turn out to be one repetitive disc! Original holiday
compositions are certainly welcome, and covers of holiday songs by
artists XTC fans know and love can be considered. I'd just like to
hear clever, melodic, intelligent, and creative music - like I expect
from an XTC album.

Please email me (dminer@gte.net) with any ideas. And if you're so
inclined, I'm willing to accept multiple submissions from people.
Ideally, it would be nice to have to prune the selection down to the
best of the best, not to have only a handfull of submissions.

So, get those ideas flowing, and once I get an idea how everyone on
the 'hill is thinking on this, I'll work up a timetable for
submissions, production and orders. If you got a copy of my CD of
"Jules Verne's Sketchbook," you should already know what kind of
effort I would put into this project!!

Thanks,

= Derek =

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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:24:57 +0100
From: "Smith, David" <David.Smith@tfeurope.com>
Subject: RE: There's no place like Dome
Message-ID: <4BBE67B71C1DD411A23600508B65F71E68628C@tfsecmsg04.tfseur.co.uk>

Sylvan said:

"Don't forget to remove Omnibus from Nonsvch. <snip>
As a matter of fact, Bungalow and That Wave can go, too. <snip, snip>"

Aaaaaargh, oy oy, leave it, leeeeave it! Gggrrrrrrrrrrrrr! <tape> <tape>

Oh, and am I the ONLY person who likes "Frost Circus" and "Procession"?

****
Adrian Ransome said of me:

	David "Sir Smudge of Boy" Smith wrote of the Smashing Pumpkins:

	>Have you ever seen a sadder example of ageing pop
	>stars.....

	..right after he posted a glowing tribute to Sir Elton of the
	John..... go, as they say, figure.

Errrrrr, that's me busted innit? The only defence I have is that Elton has
ALWAYS been a preening ninny and that's part of the act. I'd be more
worried if he started dressing in tight black leather and glowering at the
camera! (Urgh, doesn't bear thinking about, duzzit?)

****
I liked David Seddon's impassioned defence of the Dome - and agreed
with it for the most part. I do, however, have to take issue with his
assertion that the price of the Dome is worth foregoing the cost of
three fully-functional hospital wings, or 10 operating theatres, or
30,000 NHS beds, or 50 MRI scanners.

It's all well and good having a great centre for the arts and
expanding the mind, but surely a LASTING legacy of the new millennium
would have been getting the homeless off the streets, making sure the
elderly can live with a degree of dignity, or ensuring that - after
4,500 years of human "progress", people weren't still dying on
trolleys in hospital corridors.

Yes, the Dome is a great attraction and was a wonderful concept and it
SHOULD have been something that future generations could look at and
say "wow, what a great piece of work", just like they do with the
Eiffel Tower.

It's just a terrible shame that various political and business
interests turned it into a symbol of mis-management, greed and (now,
it looks like) corruption, so much so that within five years no trace
of its existence will remain - except perhaps the debts.

Still, go and see it while you can - it IS a good day out.

Oh, and Chopin? Spot on mate!

****
Sarah D said:

	"It's Raining Men"
	I'm sorry.

So you bloody well should be!

Why do ALL dance DJs insist on playing this song - at my mate's
wedding last year, he gave the DJ a list of songs he was EXPRESSLY
forbidden to play, including :

It's Raining Men (obviously)
I Will Survive (natch)
Eye of the Tiger (punch the air, punch your partner . . .)
Hi-Ho Silver Lining (everbody sing . . .)
Come On Eileen (do that ragamuffin dance)
Oops Upside Your Head (I'm NOT sitting on that floor in this suit!)

What did the DJ do? He played 'em all.

What did my mate do? He refused to pay the DJ. Nearly ended up in
fisticuffs until the DJ apologised and took 25% off his bill - I love other
people's weddings.

Oh, alright, here's the thread - what "classic" dance floor fillers
would YOU not allow the DJ to play at your wedding / party /
barmitzvah?

*****
Chris Coolidge was talking about the sax breaks and said of Junior Walker:

	"Better him than Kenny G for sure, or David Sanborn (who once played
	on an Ian Hunter album, come to think of it, the same one Jaco
	Pastorius played bass on)"

Now Messrs Sanborn and Pastorius are (or were, in Jaco's case) mighty
fine musicians. Just goes to show that, far more important than the
ingredients, is how you mix them!

****
And finally . . . rising to the bait, Fenboy's list of bands who have
recently released better stuff than the "two men in search of
inspiration" who's "last two albums have included no end of 'clunkers"

Moby?
David Gray????

Looks like you you missed out:

Britney Spears
Five
S Club Seven
Mr Blobby

Strewth, is nothing sacred  :-)

Smudge "Put those bloody scissors down" Boy
E-Mail: david.smith@tfeurope.com

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