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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 266

                Monday, 11 September 2000

Topics:

           miscellaneous-y etcetera, and so on
             Nearly Forgotten Variety of Sad
               Andy interview in Line 6 mag
                    Mummer's the word
      Roxy PG, Adrian Belew and a cast of thousands!
                    Shitty Mick Jones
                           ebay
                      F@#$%&! EMAIL
                        sad songs
                        Happy/Sad
                       Saddest Song
                 thank god i'm a nutsack!
                      nylon strings
                      It's in German
                  Re: Whats an anklung?
                     "A Steal"-y Dan
  The Return of the King - And quite Troubled he is....
                     more on the UCB

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:56:37 -0500
From: Jill Oleson <Jill_Oleson@kurion.com>
Subject: miscellaneous-y etcetera, and so on
Message-ID: <81CC73FC2FACD311A2D200508B8B88AA1C919C@KURION_EXCH>

Oh Chalkers...

I  believe that I am feeling *quite* miscellaneous tonight.
My mind is filled with a cacophony my ears still hear and
my flesh full of vim and etcetera.  Oh, let the rant begin.
Let's embrace it, let it meander, and dare not stand in
its way.

Having just returned from seeing/hearing California Guitar
Trio play with bassist Tony Levin and percussionist Jarrod
Kaplan, my arteries are still pumping in 11/8 time, down
from 17/8, I'm sure.  Did you know that despite their name,
not a single member of that band is from California?
What's up with that?  It's like the band Texas being
from Scotland.

We went to the early show and nodded full-bodied to the
fusion of five people who played the same type of instruments
we have at home, including an African djembe and tiny bells,
yet the sounds were somehow different than those we've
surprised our pizza delivery guy with.  "No, sir, sorry,
we did not hear your ringing, but if the pizza is still warm,
we'll take it.  Tell the neigh-bots we're sorry about the
noise... and thanks!"

Joe Funk was there wearing his greenish Chalkhills hat.
But Where-0-Where was Chris Vreeland?  Still waxing rhapsodic
about that Gabriel show in the Eighties?  I was there too and
felt the lightning that can happen when an artist offers the
power to the audience and they feel his trust and they return
it with love and adoration.  Very unlike the shows I would
see later where the audience stole the power from the artist
with spit, broken bottles, and stage dives that made the most
sensitive souls refuse to tour any longer.  What hath we
wrought, my fellow music lovers, what hath we wrought?

The venue for tonight's treat was a little room I have written
about before -- the Cactus Cafe at the University of Texas at
Austin.  Oh, how the really good musicians love this venue!
Only about three times the size of my living room, with a
two-foot-tall stage on one end and a ten-foot-long bar on the
other, this sweet spot in the center of town is Austin's
super secret.  Shhhh.... don't tell anyone, okay?  We wouldn't
want just anyone to part the red velvet curtains and stroll in.

My favorite shows in recent years have all been in this little
room -- Robyn Hitchcock, as I wrote about a few months ago,
King Crimson, and tonight's CGT being just a few names to be
dropped for your reading pleasure.  If I were a hung-up spudboy
with a fear of large venues, I would stick my big toe in this
wood-paneled, smoke-free love nest as if testing the shorewaters
of a far-away sea.  I would learn of my welcome back into the
fold, and I would cling to my renewed elation like a tightrope.
But I suppose, however, that in the end, this is neither here,
nor there.

'Tis time tonight make a recommendation to you, my friends,
for other music you might enjoy.  A Dallas band named Chomsky,
named after, you guessed it, *that* Chomsky.  Their bass player,
James Driscoll, is a fellow Chalker who--believe it or not--is
too shy to post frequently to our little group.  Frankly, that
may say much more about us than it says about him.

James, whom I met during Austin's South By Southwest Film,
Music and Multimedia Festival, describes his band as being
XTC influenced.  After playing the hell out of their CD
for months now, I must concur, even though they quite clearly
have their own definitive sound.  Actually, a lot of the people
I meet who play in Texas bands describe their music as being
XTC influenced.  I always find that fascinating.  XTC toured
through our GREAT state a couple of times in the Eighties
(I have written about my experience at their early concerts
before...), yet most of these musicians are far too young
to have attended any of the shows.  A testament to a little-
understood legacy engendered by AP CM DG BA & TC.

I'm not a musician, so XTC hasn't influenced my music, but
man, oh man, they have influenced my life.  That's what being
LUCKY CALLER NUMBER TEN can do for a girl.  Turned me
into a painter, it did.  And perhaps a writer too.  You movie-
making Chalkers, whom I met at the SXSW Film and Music
Festival (http://www.sxsw.com), will be proud to learn that
after our discussions over Tex-Mex and margaritas that night,
I did, indeed, decide to start writing a book.  I took your
general advice to not write a screen play and go straight for
the novel approach--an irreproachable idea I could not refuse
-- not after seeing that severed horse head in my dreams...

But I digress...  I meant to say:

http://www.chomsky.com

And now, having gotten that out of the way:

They were selling five different kinds of CDs at the
California Guitar Trio's gig tonight.  Three were CGT's,
including what they called a "bootleg" of one of their
previous shows (Question: Can a group really "bootleg"
their own material?  I mean if the group is recording
it and selling it, how can it be a bootleg?), plus
one of Tony Levin's, and one of Michael Mandrell's,
who opened the show.  Oh, and t-shirts, the ubiquitous
t-shirts.  I asked who benefited from the sales of this
merchandise at the show.  The answer, thankfully, was that
100% of the money was going to the artists. Cool. I'll take
at least one of everything.  I *want* the artists to
make money off of me.  I turn my wallet over for those who
have brought me such happiness along with my musical
education.

During the show, because--of course--they want to make
sales, they stopped playing music long enough to talk about
the sale booth in the hall by the front door and what you
could buy tonight and what you could buy later, when you
got your next paycheck and your wallet was reloaded after
they emptied it for you indirectly with their immense
talent. They each also mentioned their Web sites:

  http://www.cgtrio.com
  http://www.papabear.com
  http://www.omnivine.com/people/jarrod/
  http://www.songs.com/mandrell

I had mixed feelings about their "interrupting this show
to bring you a commercial announcement," but overall, I felt
MORE POWER TO THEM.  YES, TAKE MY MONEY... you deserve
it.  And I want to prove to you how grateful I am for the
profusion of joy I am feeling pour through every pore.

You know, the record companies made a huge mistake:
They never bothered to build up customer loyalty.  They never
promoted the names of their companies so you would be
tempted to buy their entire line of products... they only
promoted the music they thought they could make the most
bucks from. Now that musicians are taking sales into their
own hands, we customers feel no loyalty to the music companies
at all and certainly no sympathy for those who promoted
cashflow instead of promoting talent. They shall suffer a
slow, cruel death for their deeds, I believe. And Napster
is only a small part of that picture.  I raise a pint in
toast of such changes.

After the show, the musicians stood in the hall and met with
their fans.  Even the Great Stick God Tony Levin signed
autographs along with the lesser-known mortals.  And you know
what?  They enjoyed it.  They all clearly enjoyed it.  It was
a relaxed, friendly atmosphere that felt like a party with
your very best pals.  And EVERYBODY wanted to buy a CD to
have it autographed then and there before the thrill of the
evening became a distant memory.  There's a lesson in here
for someone, I think.

Oh, dear.  I have pulled a Dunks (or perhaps a Harrison) with
the personally unprecedented length of this post. All apologies.
But, hey, I nonetheless succeeded at staying on topic for the
most part.  And I am ever so proud of that--even if said topic
was not overtly discernable to the naked eye.

One last thing.  On the way home from the show, I saw a
dyslexic fan license plate on the car in front of us:
It said "XCT."  Now what do you think to that?

Cheers!

Jill Oleson
Austin, Texas

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:27:20 -0500
From: chris vreeland <vreecave@realtime.com>
Subject: Nearly Forgotten Variety of Sad
Message-ID: <39BBB65E.7D48ACDF@realtime.com>

Dearly Disappointed,
    Oops, in my haste to post my sad song list I forgot one of the most
important sub-categories of sad songs there is.

Soundtrack for Nightmare Descent Into Booze, Drugs and Madness:

Most definite winner here:
Aladdin Sane, David Bowie.

Chris "my nightmare descent was really kind of fun" Vreeland

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:49:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: r leighton <onlymortal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Andy interview in Line 6 mag
Message-ID: <20000910184953.15571.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com>

I work in a music store and we recieved the autumn
edition of Line 6 magazine and who's on the cover?
You guessed Colin and Andy.  The magazine talks with
Andy about the new album and of course the use of the
Line 6 POD.  I have scanned the pics and article and
If anyone would like to read it e-mail me privately
and I will be happy to send it on.

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 15:01:55 EDT
From: KINGSTUNES@aol.com
Subject: Mummer's the word
Message-ID: <8.a0ec8f0.26ed34a3@aol.com>

>Thanks for coming out in support of Mummer's B-sides, Sylvan... Though
>you're WRONG, WRONG, WRONG about Jump being, "merely quite good."  Jump >is
as catchy as a cold

Here's my two cents on the inclusion of bonus tracks.  A record like Mummer
was released primarily as a vinyl format.  For anyone who was a collector in
those "dark days" you purchased what was presented as a final product.  While
it is great that the other material released at the same time can be included
on the CD reissue, it makes so much more sense to include that material as an
addendum at the end.  XTC is the only group I've seen it done this way, with
the stuff jammed into the middle of the original running order.  It disrupts
the album as it was intended, and gives newer listeners a distorted picture.
It's like taking Sgt. Peppers, for example, and sticking Only A Northern
Song, You Know My Name (Look Up The Number), The Inner Light and Alltogether
Now right smack in the middle.  What lame ass "shirt" at Virgin decided this?
 (And please don't tell me Andy and Colin had a say in it!)

As for Jump, I agree, it really is an underrated song.  The musical interplay
and buildup in the verses is really clever and catchy.  Sucks me in.  I don't
care for the start of the chorus too much, though - 'Jump, jump, go ahead and
jump, jump' - S'ok, but a little stiff to me, like Great Fire.  I'll probably
get flack for this, but I don't get why folks like Great Fire so much.  Maybe
because it's the closest thing to catchy on the album.  The middle really
bogs down on that 'Wait, Mr. Fireman" bit.  I tend to skip it when I listen
to Mummer.   Awkward song, IMO.

Don't get me wrong, I love Mummer.  But I do think it's one of the least
accessible albums they've done.  I could see why Virgin gave them a hard
time.  I love Human Alchemy, (reggae meets Gregorian chant - Andy, you
devil!), but that could scare off a first time listener.  But there are some
gems - Ladybird, of course, Farmboy's Wages, Beating of Hearts, and I don't
know about anyone but I think that In Loving Memory of a Name is wonderful!
Especially the break at the end with the drum fill into the coda.  I know the
boys don't care for it (ILMOAN) too much, and it gets weak press, but it's
one of my closet XTC favorites.  Jump could easily have made the record,
maybe in place of Wonderland or something.  But all that Homo Safari noodling
should have been placed at the end of the CD.
*************************************
More sad songs (Wah, ha ha!)

Child's Song - How could I foget this one?  This coming of age and leaving
home masterpiece, by Murray McLaughlin, gets me every time.  The best known
cover is by Tom Rush, and is quite moving in a detatched way.  But I have a
place in my heart for the David Bromberg version on Reckless Abandon,
syrupy strings 'n all.
    "Mother, give your love back to your husband
    Father, you have taught me well.  Goddbye."
    (Sniff.)

If I Were Brave - Shawn Colvin.  My life's story.
    "All the happy couples on their way to New Orleans
    Reminding me of when we got along
    They're only renting time and space to fill up with their dreams
    And dreams are what they'll have when they have gone.

    How could it be that I was born without a clue to carry on
    And still it is the same now that I'm older
    Armed with just a will and then this love for singing songs.
    And minding less and less if I am colder

    But I have this funny ache and it's burning in my chest
    And it spreads just like a fire inside my body
    Is it something God left out in my spirit or my flesh
    Would I be saved if I were brave and had a baby

    It was never clear what would come next
        but that's the risk and that's the test
    And you were the only one so far to follow
    And no one talks about when one might need to stop and rest
        Or how long you sit alone
        Before you stop looking back
        It's like you're waiting for Godot
        And then you pick your sorry ass up off the street and go

    And what the hell is this?  Who made this bloody mess?
    But someone always answers like a martyr
    Is it something you should know?  Did you never do your best?
    Would you be saved if you were brave and just tried harder?

    So now I ride the aught one thirtyfive to New Orleans
    I float a mile above life's toil and trouble
    A thousand lonlely lifetimes I still wait and then go on
    A clown to entertain the happy couples"

Sigh.

Tom K

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:10:17 EDT
From: WTDK@aol.com
Subject: Roxy PG, Adrian Belew and a cast of thousands!
Message-ID: <7d.a289e1b.26ed6ed9@aol.com>

> > re. bands that switch instruments:
>  > Talking Heads, in "Naive Melody" (that was the point of the song).
>  > King Crimson's Adrian Belew switches from guitar to drums occasionally,
>  > and does a damn good job!

That's probably because he started off as a drummer not a guitar player. He
still has pretty decent chops. Most of the stuff that he plays on his solo
albums is pretty darn good.

I believe it was Deb who said-

>tracks are F*CKING BRILLIANT, and you'll never hear me say otherwise..  but
is there anyone out there who adores the B-sides as much as I do?

I actually like some of the bsides from Mummer better than a couple of album
tracks. Yes, I even like Prosession (it would have fit well on Another Green
World or Before and After Science by Eno)

Telehead  said-
>Peter Gabriel: The Roxy, 1977 - The complete band from P.G.'s first
solo record including Robert Fripp (hiding behind a scrim placed behind Steve
Hunter). Dressed in a grey jogging suit that seemed to signify the break from
the flamboyance of the Genesis days, Peter went through the entire first
album opening with a solo version of "Here Comes the Flood".

Almost that entire concert is available on bootleg. The best version I've
heard (and have) is the golden stars disc. I wasn't at that show (lived in
the bay area at the time)
but am wondering who the hell Jozef Crowski was (he's listed on keyboards on
the boot and also acknolwedged on the disc if I'm not mistaken). I thought
that it might be Roy Bittan.

On to topic--So it sounds as if Dave & Andy have put the past behind them (or
their behinds in the past). Good for them! Now guys, either get on to your
respective music projects the world (at least this little spot of it) is
waiting for something...anything.

I emailed Rhino about the Powerpuff Girls soundtrack and the reply I got is
that if Andy was still interested (and sales were good for the first disc)
they might put out a second with whatever Andy wants to submit. It would be
cool.

Wayne

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:43:00 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net>
Subject: Shitty Mick Jones
Message-ID: <l03130302b5e14a20b71e@[208.13.202.144]>

>On the two Mick Joneses: I've always thought of them as "Good Mick Jones"
>(Clash, obviously) and "Shitty Mick Jones", and if I get taken to task for
>slagging Foreigner, that's a sad thing indeed. His voice just has too many
>of the qualities that I find intolerable, and working with someone good
>earlier in one's career doesn't excuse "Juke Box Hero" or "Urgent" any more
>than "My Aim Is True" excuses "Hip to be Square".

  That voice is actually lead singer Lou Gramm, Mick's own voice is kind of
limited, and did mostly backup vocals with Foreigner. I used to own the
first album when I was in high school, but by the time the second one came
out, they were banished from my collection for good. I also happened to
hear a track from his late 80's solo album on the local album rock station
and backup vocalists Mick Jagger and Ian Hunter practically drowned him out.

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at
http://homepages.together.net/~cauldron/homepage.html

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:21:58 -0600
From: "Joseph Easter" <easter2000@earthlink.net>
Subject: ebay
Message-ID: <000501c01b86$4dd44b20$f1730a3f@default>

Has anyone noticed the absurd amount of Jules Verne/Bull w/ Golden Guts
demos on ebay lately? It used to be a rarity and now is simply expensive.
Does anyone know the reason behind this influx? It just seems a little more
than random...

Joseph Easter

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:09:32 EDT
From: WESnLES@aol.com
Subject: F@#$%&! EMAIL
Message-ID: <93.61454b.26ed8acc@aol.com>

Short and quick:

I've received email from a few folks here on the list lately that I won't be
able to reply to because my F@#$%&! email keeps deleting messages from my
system at an ever increasing rate.

One of you in particular had some kind words for me and I very much wanted to
reply to you.

Sorry if I missed you...lost three emails today.  If you don't hear back from
me please email me again....or at weslong@usa.net

Can't believe I'm still on AOL,

wesLONG

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:52:06 EDT
From: TumeysKat@aol.com
Subject: sad songs
Message-ID: <25.aa7d034.26ed94c6@aol.com>

Here are some songs which I find either make me sad, or are songs I play
while I am feeling sad.

Pink Floyd:  Hey You - the guitar work on this alone speaks volumes of
sadness.
XTC: 1,000 Umbrellas- but this can change depending on WHY I am sad.
Pink Floyd:  The Great Gig in the Sky
U2: Mothers of the Disappeared
Jars of Clay:  Flood
and another that depends on my mood
John Lennon: Imagine-  If I am already sad, it can make me even sadder.

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Date: 11 Sep 00 14:45:51 EST
From: Paul.Culnane@dcita.gov.au
Subject: Happy/Sad
Message-ID: <0007zvxnntlh.0007fnxnnbjt@dcita.gov.au>

G'day Chorx

A couple of sad old ones from way back when:  "Young Girl Blues" and
"Celeste" from Donovan; "London Boys" from Bowie.  And I second whoever it
was who recently cited "The Loneliest Of Creatures" by Klaatu.

But you might find this strange (as I do):  I cannot get through "The Mayor
Of Simpleton" without melting into a blubbering wreck.  Dunno why...

Speaking of 'sad', I 've been it a lot lately.  Times of barely controlled
extreme depression.  So I must simply note how the presence of Chalkhills and
its wonderful community have saved me on so many occasions from a fate I'd
rather not contemplate.  Not only have I been enjoying a recent spate of
CD/MD/tape trades and established some rewarding acquaintanceships in the
process, but also over the 4 years I've been reading 'Hills, I have been the
beneficiary of real, dear and lifelong friendships, the likes of which don't
come along all that often. Just a quick thank you then to some of the special
ones: Mark, Duncan, Toni, Seb, Iain, Todd, Mark, Clifford, Lee, Jon, Peter,
Dan and last but by no means least, the superlative-defying Dominic. You know
how I feel about you...

Thanks too, of course, to John Relph for making it happen.

Er, after all that, mebbe I'd better listen to some Wiggles!  "Hot potato,
hot potato..."

Next time I'll try to weigh in with something a little substantial and
hopefully have the syrup tap turned off.    ;^)

Love
~~p@ul

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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:30:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Relph <relph@engr.sgi.com>
Subject: Saddest Song
Message-ID: <200009110430.VAA63312@mando.engr.sgi.com>

Funny someone should mention The The.  Although I really have no idea
what the saddest songs are, I do think that "Kingdom of Rain" by The The
has to be one of the darkest saddest grimmest pieces of lyric ever put
on tape.

	-- John

NP: nothing

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:49:20 -0600
From: "Joseph Easter" <easter2000@earthlink.net>
Subject: thank god i'm a nutsack!
Message-ID: <002501c01bff$78dc7c60$98730a3f@default>

Can't, resist, temptation, can't...urgh...must warn...no xtc
content....argh...

Since it's been brought up...

Little Donny is fine, ass pennies, hillarious (yawn)...

The funniest thing the UCB ever did is the John Denver fan club, where we
finally get to hear the songs of JD in their pure form...

Rocky Mountain Nutsack...

Joseph Easter

bahhahbahhahhabahabahbah...

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brown <mb2@deltanet.com>
Subject: nylon strings
Message-ID: <200009111606.JAA02884@mail2.deltanet.com>

The scintillating Ms. Jayne asked:

<<Also Dave's spainish guitar is nylon strung - does this make a difference?>>

In my EXTREMELY limited capacity as an acoustic guitarist (hey, I can strum
the rhythm parts like a madwoman..just don't play too fast, k?), the sound
of nylon strings is muted, or subdued.. as opposed to the steel string,
which has an obviously metallic, sharp ring or tone... does that make sense?
Oh, and the play feels different.. I'm sure the Hills' many REAL musicians
will step up and tell you more-

Debora Brown

-if the Eel's mp3 Ian is a Chalker.. thank you very much!

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:40:40 +0100
From: John Peacock <johndrewp@zoo.co.uk>
Subject: It's in German
Message-ID: <39BCE0D8.534796D2@zoo.co.uk>
Organization: The Nice Organization

> D.V. Caputo quoted Kraftwerk thus:
>
> 4.The Mix, Kraftwerk(fun fun fun off the autobahn...)

You realise, of course, that it's "Fahren, fahren, fahren auf den Autobahn"
or grammatically correct equivalent ("Drive, drive, drive on the
autobahn").

Of course you do. Anyone with the sense to listen to Peter Blegvad albums
realises that.

(discovered Slapp Happy yet?)

John

P.S. Sad songs - am I right in thinking only one person has mentioned a
Randy Newman song? That man writes the saddest songs *ever*. Personal
sobfests include Marie, Ghosts, Baltimore, I Think It's Going To Rain
Today. And how about In Germany Before the War? Not most people's idea of a
sad song, but it's *devastating*.

--
In the spirit of shameless self promotion, my songs may be found at:
 http://www.mp3.com/peacock
"sell yourself, sell yourself, expect nothing" as a sage saith.

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:23:01 -0400
From: "Brian" <mattone@bhip.infi.net>
Subject: Re: Whats an anklung?
Message-ID: <014201c01c04$2d695aa0$500affd1@Brian>

Tschalkgerz!

>I've just put ES on & having a good look at the credits.
>On Yacht Dance AP is credited as playing an anklung.
>What is it, please?<

http://www.si.umich.edu/CHICO/MHN/pages/anklg_gnrl.html
>From the site:
>Anklung
General information:
Angklungs, or tuned bamboo slide rattles, have been used throughout
Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand. Generally, these rattles have two or three
vertical bamboo tubes (tuned in octaves) attached to a handheld horizontal
bamboo rod. When you shake them, the tubes slide along grooves cut into the
rectangular frame and strike a bamboo or wooden rim. There is a small
segment cut out of each tube which also affects the pitch they produce.

Usually, performers use pairs of anklung, one held in each hand.
Occasionally, these instruments are suspended so that musicians can play two
or more at a time.<

>Also Dave's spainish guitar is nylon strung - does this make a difference?<

Nylon strings will produce a different sound than, say, steel strings.

-Brian Matthews
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:36:49 +0100
From: "Smith, David" <David.Smith@tfeurope.com>
Subject: "A Steal"-y Dan
Message-ID: <4BBE67B71C1DD411A23600508B65F71E6861E5@tfsecmsg04.tfseur.co.uk>

Well helloooooooo there!

Johan Ekdahl mentioned his sojourn to Denmark to see "The Dan"
last week - and talked about the "sports hall bounce" that rather
ruined the sound.

Unfortunately Johan, their sound guy hasn't completely learned his
lesson. I saw them at Wembley Arena last night - which is just about
the biggest "sports hall" venue you can think of. Therefore, the "second
listen" came about one second after the first and the bass player's
pops and slaps were actually louder and more resonant than the snare
drum at times!

Having said that . . . . . they were absolutely f*cking brilliant. Sorry,
but sometimes you HAVE to swear to get the point across :-)

The first half was good but the second (helped by the fact that someone
must have given the sond man a nudge, as it improved no end) was really
out of this world.

High point #1: Walter Becker taking lead vocals on "Daddy Don't Live in
That New York City" - his range has diminished so he sung it a few tones
lower in a sleazy Tom Waits-type voice, which suited it perfectly.

High point #2 - Becker and Fagen relegating themselves to the role of "just
the band" while letting the three backing vocals girls let rip on "Dirty
Work" was simply sublime.

High point #3 - Finishing the encore on "FM". Cool.

High point #4 - Oh, bloody everything else!

Low point - at |30 a ticket, you would think they don't really need to
charge |8 for a programme - oh well.

XTC content: I never saw them live and I prob'ly never will, so seeing the
Dan is as good as it will ever get for me. (Sorry, that's a bit tenuous
isn't it?)

Smudge "No we can't dance together" Boy
E-Mail: david.smith@tfeurope.com

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:15:29 PDT
From: "Edward Sizzorhends" <skylar_king@hotmail.com>
Subject: The Return of the King - And quite Troubled he is....
Message-ID: <F205ew89TH3jTmn3JY3000089f1@hotmail.com>

Haven't really read a lot of posts lately, they seemed to be shattered and
splintered factions discussing amongst themselves.

I am quite troubled by two of the songs on "WASP STAR" due to their extreme
similarities to other songs.

Of course I am talking about "Standing In For Joe" hereto referred to as
SIFJ and "Stupidly Happy" referred to as SH.

In the realm of The Skylar King, SIFJ doesn't possess just a quaint
similarity to "Barrytown" by Steely Dan. If it is, then this is the same
kind of quaint that got George Harrison's pants sued off for "My Sweet
Lord."

Though I am not a copyright law expert, I would have to say that
unfortunately, on the surface I see a potential lawsuit here.

It's even more blatant than Colin's nicking of the "It's Only Love"
(Beatles) melody for "The Good Things."

An as for SH, the so-close-you-can-smell-it-and-it-DOES-smell Award is
shared between SH and that shitty Third Eye Blind Song "Never Let You Go."
It's the choice of sounds....Anyone who tells me that Andrew wasn't angling
for today's teen radio hit market (not that there's anything wrong with
that) with his production choices has got to really be "Third-Eye"
blind-duh.

Now YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEART the Skylar King loves XTC and KNOWS they are
brilliant and creative and he only dreams of writing songs as goos as they
do someday, but for St. Pete's sake...if I ripped off a song that blatantly,
I would never hear the end of it.

Leaning more toward SIFJ, it's one thing to pay homage to a style, genre or
writer and all the best nick from eachother anyway, and if you are gonna
nick, nick from the best and so on and so forth ad infinitum...but can
someone explain to me why this isn't LIFTING or our new favorite
"discussion" topic among our brilliant new "War and Peace" posters here -
"SAMPLING" ( and yes I know what sampling is, please don't...just....don't)?

And for all the talk about how he doesn't want success and all that tired
rhetoric, Andy swipes the K-Tel "Today's Current Hits" guide to studio
production for this song. He wants to sell a million records just like
everybody else. It seems to be this album straddles a meanly picketed and
pointy fence, and somethings starting to poke at the old arse.... One of the
more computer savvy on this list should collect all the ANDYISMS from all
the articles, put them in a Random Response Generator, e-mail the program to
all the journalists of the world and then they could do an Andy Interview
without even calling him. I am sure Andy would like that idea. All they ever
do is ask him "Duh, are you the lads going to touring this time or what?
dribble dribble drool"

Once again, I am not down on "XTC", I just know there is someone on the list
who can help me accept the problem I percieve or explain why it's not in the
first place.

A forlorn SKYLAR KING
slumps in his throne.....

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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:55:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com>
Subject: more on the UCB
Message-ID: <20000911175549.27760.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com>

re:
I consider the Little Donny Foundation episode, and
the one where everyone's prejudiced against astronauts,
the funniest shows ever on TV.

I too LOVE the Upright Citizen's Brigade and am sad to
see it being cancelled, tho I'm not surprised. Seems
too original and intelligent to succeed in among the
stupid gross-out humor currently popular.

The prejudice episode mentioned above-in my opinion,
that 1/2 hour wipes out the last 25 years of lame
humor about prejudice and racism. Some of the most
daring, sharp-witted and truly hilarious comedy I have
ever seen.

Love the piece they did on the Unibomber as well.

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