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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 264

                Saturday, 9 September 2000

Topics:

                      re: Aimee Mann
                      A Sad Posting
                  "What tha hell?" Radio
                      Lest we forget
                       Mummer & co
                      Robert Smithee
               Okay - I'll bite - Concerts
              News from the Uffington 'orse!
                     server question
                      Assorted demos
                  Je suis un sad bastard
                        Eels MP3s
                  A Little Help Please?
                Gather 'Round Children...
          Sad songs = Everything by Jeff Buckley
               Of Apples, Oranges & Lemons
      RE: Getting drunk with micro-celebrities . . .
Behindness, Steely Dan and Radiohead (very little XTC content)

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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:49:36 -0500
From: "Jan C. Harris" <wow@bluemarble.net>
Subject: re: Aimee Mann
Message-ID: <058401c01905$3dc00860$a4a6f5d0@janstrigem>

Chalk Robert Wood wrote:  <<<It's Aimee's best album
(IMHO of course!)>>>

Okay -

Aimee Mann question:  did she do the soundtrack to Magnolia?  Or
was she featured prominently on it?  What do you know of the
film, the music?

Why haven't I heard more about this?

Comments, cliches, commentary . . . .

JanCarol
wow@bluemarble.net
www.bluemarble.net/~wow

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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:53:30 EDT
From: Xtckinks@aol.com
Subject: A Sad Posting
Message-ID: <4b.8846b7.26e94c3a@aol.com>

In reference to the Sad Song thread, there's a song I find getting sadder
with each passing year. 'My Family' used to perform it, but sadly, they've
disbanded. It's Happy Birthday.

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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 13:41:25 -0700
From: "Dane Pereslete" <peresd@tcwgroup.com>
Subject: "What tha hell?" Radio
Message-ID: <s9b79b16.048@acacia.tcwgroup.com>

Christopher Coolidge pointed out:

>Too late, "Mayor Of Simpleton" has already made the Grand Union radio
>playlist; somebody in the Grand Union administration staff has hip taste in
>music. Used to be muzak, in which version I heard MOS once, and a
>couple of
>years ago they switched to the actual original recording itself, so I get
>to hear hip music from my album collection as I shop.

Heard at Stater Bros. Supermarket in Palm Springs, CA over the Labor
Day Holiday weekend:

A Muzak version of Cocteau Twins!!  A slightly "countrified" instrumental
version of the song "Bluebeard", I believe...

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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 21:41:42 +0100
From: John Peacock <johndrewp@zoo.co.uk>
Subject: Lest we forget
Message-ID: <39B7FD86.212D65DE@zoo.co.uk>
Organization: The Nice Organization

Further to the discussion of Mott the Hoople, may I remind you all of
Morgan Fisher's solo forays into album-making: The extraordinary
Hybrid Kids album, featuring Mr Fisher as such acts as Jah Wurzel (a
heavy dub version of Wuthering Heights with a vocal spun from purest
zummerzet. Genuinely terrifying) and Punky and Perky (a Sex Pistols
medley with speeded-up vocals a la Alvin and the Chipmunks or, indeed,
Pinky and Perky); a Hybrid Kids christmas album; and the majestic
Miniatures, sixty tracks of not more than a minute in length,
featuring all the luminaries - Brian Eno, Michael Nyman, Quentin Crisp
and (amongst many others) Andy Partridge, with his History of Rock and
Roll So Far (surely essential listening for any XTC fan).

XTC content at last! No longer irrevocably off-topic!

I am vindicated!

John

--
In the spirit of shameless self promotion, my songs may be found at:
 http://www.mp3.com/peacock
"sell yourself, sell yourself, expect nothing" as a sage saith.

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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 22:12:02 +0000
From: The Worrier Queen <myrone@tesco.net>
Subject: Mummer & co
Message-ID: <39B8126A.9247F11F@tesco.net>

That bloody fine (wo)man Deb Brown said
> ..and while we're on the subject of Mummer..

so thought I'd weigh in with a couple more misheard lyrics:

"Me & dolphin are pulling pints"
&
"Funk, pop a roll for bitchin' soul"

Well it made sense at the time.

Like darlin' Ms Brown I'm rather taken by the B sides -
the instrumentals demand films/animations to accompany them.

I'm intrigued by the thought of AP & CM doing a musical & as
for the kids series - count me in for sitting down & watching.
Maybe this could be the way the world finally takes notice.

Still trying to decide on sad songs that aren't by XTC.
REM's Perfect Circle can usually bring about the quivering
of the upper lip & then there's Remember When (Tim Finn?)
which is on the extra CD in the 2nd Split Enz box set.
Also The Muttonbirds' Another Morning but that's more linked
to the memories it stirs up.

Simon's Pizza campaign is the only sensible & sane way to go in
an insane world - & I thought that spaghetti bolagnaise on a
pizza was pretty wierd.
Mind you this was in a "Pizza Gallery" where it went under the
name of the Leonardo.  You couldn't take art historians there -
they'd spend most of the evening squawking and demanding to
know what Canaletto had in common with pineapple & ham.
In the words of an elderly relative of mine
"If I wanted my pudding on my tea I'd have asked."

Homegrown?
Wow yes yes please, pretty please - I'll wait but please, please-

I have the house to myself this weekend - ah ha!
Think I'll be going on an XTC binge.

But-
most of all I remeber the sun
Jayne the Worrier Queen

He Toi Whakairo He Mana Tangata
Where there is artistic excellence, there is human dignity.
Maori saying

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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:30:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com>
Subject: Robert Smithee
Message-ID: <20000907213047.4312.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com>

re:

Robert Smith's songwriting talent seems to be
increasing in proportion to the amount he thinks
its decreasing...if that made sense.

The only part that dosen't make sense is the claim
that he HAS songwriting talent.  Next thing, someone
will be tying to claim that he can SING!

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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:32:02 -0500
From: "Jan C. Harris" <wow@bluemarble.net>
Subject: Okay - I'll bite - Concerts
Message-ID: <05ac01c01913$bc49cc80$a4a6f5d0@janstrigem>

Please factor into my limited experience that I was raised by
very victorian parents who thought that rock 'n' roll was
evil....

Very first - Maynard Ferguson - with Dad.  I was stunned; Maynard
was giving jobs to young college grads, and his band could really
play!  Disappointment - the albums were not quite so good.
Naturally, previous to this, I had seen the Stan Kenton band
(sans Kenton) and several operas and symphonies.
First Solo - Doobie brothers with Cheap Trick opening.  I felt
like the energy of Cheap Trick was devastating compared to the
late 70's Doobies.
First Stoned - Heart.  It was the first time I figured out to
"inhale" - and it made for an incredible concert memory.
(forgive me, so many of these were seen stoned I cannot remember
dates.  I don't even remember who opened for Heart)
First road trip - Yes 1984 - travelled 4 hours to Lexington KY
Rupp arena, and had been a Yesfan for nearly a decade - was too
much fun.  I had never seen the classic lineup, so I didn't know
not to enjoy it!
Memorable - also 1984 - road trip to hear Rick Wakeman solo.  It
was sad - he was so wasted he couldn't find the keys - and he had
sunk so low as to be playing free concerts at SIU Carbondale's
cafeteria.... but - once his hands were on the keys - WOW!
Great fun - a series of "classic" concerts - a different one
every night - in 1985 - Guess Who, Steppenwolf, and I can't
remember who else.  I remember that the new keyboardist for
Steppenwolf was a wizard!
Best bar band - Roadmaster, 1980
Seen the most - Yes.  Undoubtedly the most satisfying live, they
have delivered professionally and consistently since I first saw
them in 1984, and I've seen them 22 times since.
Best?  heck, the most recent Yes concert, usually - I would have
to say the 2000 Yes Masterworks tour, as performed in
Indianapolis.  Absolutely mind blowing!
Most disgusting? Van Halen, 1984.  I was more wasted than anyone
in the entire stadium, I had to be nearly carried up the stairs -
and David Lee Roth stopped the music in one song, and proclaimed,
"I'm so f*cked up I can't remember the words!"  I laughed.  I
*had* to be more f*cked up than him, and I remembered the damned
lyrics.
Surprising - Pink Floyd, Division Bell tour (1994?) - I expected
it to be a drag, depressing - but it was suprisingly uplifting,
and the way they fill a stadium with presence was astounding.
Most disappointing:  Genesis, We Can't Dance (also 1994?).  The
awfulest presentation in a stadium - the sound in the Hoosier
Dome was horrendous - and they cast an emotional spell over the
audience - "we can touch the most depressing emotions within you,
and while we're there - buy our albums."  I went into a tailspin
for months after that, coming to hate what had been a favorite
band - sure, they'd slipped since PG daze, but I was willing to
give them the benefit of the doubt until then.
Lots of fun:  WOMAD - Peter was a highlight - but the entire
scene - Chinese Harpists - the drummers of Borundi, Lenny Kravitz
(didn't do much for me), Sheila Chandra - and the crescendo of
the evening, PG live!  That's a night I enjoy playing over in my
head again and again.
Wishful thinking:  I was sad I missed Tony Levin's recent Waters
of Eden.  I would have liked to have seen some earlier King
Crimson.  And I kick myself for not divorcing my husband sooner
so that I could go to the Yes San Luis Obispo concerts.  But over
the course of my life - would that I could have seen the Beatles.
Every time I listen to XTC I think about howe *charged* I would
be to see them live, as I think they may be my favorite dance
music *ever*.  Hendrix.
Most embarassing to admit:  The second most seen act is Rush (6
times), the third is REO (5 times).  Hey, it was a Midwestern
thing.  It was always a fair show, even if it was the same old
stuff.
Most regrettable date?  Hey - I'm a chick - I don't have to go to
shows I don't like!

JanCarol
wow@bluemarble.net
www.bluemarble.net/~wow

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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:29:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brown <mb2@deltanet.com>
Subject: News from the Uffington 'orse!
Message-ID: <200009072129.OAA04255@mail2.deltanet.com>

Hi-ho, all ye hepkats and tomatas!

Thanks to Mitch for sharing the latest from AP.  (you're the best, Mr. F.!)
An A & C penned musical... what do ya think to that? ..oooww, the
possibilities!  (my goodness, I do believe I am drooling!)

So Andy and Dave finally exchanged civil words.. 'bout time..  I'm guessing
it went something like this..  Dave said, "Aw pishaw! I could never stay mad
at yous!.."  To which Andy replied, "comere and gimme a hug, ya big
gorilla!.."  ..O.K., so maybe that's not exactly what transpired between
them... WHATEVER, ain't it grand?

On the subject of roundabouts, the charming Mr. Strijbos had this to say:

<<IMHO it's not really the roundabout that's magic but rather the fact
that it is actually quite safe to traverse. But i strongly suggest you
take Edmonds's Guided Tour of Swindon Stardom and don't try to
navigate it by yourself to avoid any permanent brain damage.>>

I see a roundabout as an automotive centrifuge.. no, really.. you drive your
car into one, then the 'spinning' begins.. round and round you go.. until
the ever increasing centrifugal force and the resulting confusion succeed in
separating you from your sense of direction.. and your sanity..  Then
suddenly and most unexpectedly, you find yourself out of the roundabout and
on a feeder road.. where you are left to wonder what the hell just happened.
Of course, I've never actually driven on a roundabout, so my p.o.v. may be
slightly askew..

I can't remember who said this (it may have been writer/Anglophile Bill
Bryson), but I believe the quote was something like, "England..  years of
tradition unhampered by progress."  It was said with the utmost affection
for all things British.  I assume this includes the roundabout..  :D

Thanks for coming out in support of Mummer's B-sides, Sylvan... Though
you're WRONG, WRONG, WRONG about Jump being, "merely quite good."  Jump is
as catchy as a cold!...and what about Frost Circus?  Lovely, dream-like
FROST CIRCUS?.. Oh Sylvan, I am disappointed in you. <G>  Still, an ally is
an ally.

In digest #262, Lady Jayne asked:

<<So how do you kill zombies?  or should I hope all the important bits
drop off before they get me?>>

Och, Jayne.. killing zombies is child's play!  You just force the pesky
bastards to listen to the music of Poco until their rotting heads explode!

I'm off to see the wizard-

Debora Brown

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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 18:18:20 EDT
From: WESnLES@aol.com
Subject: server question
Message-ID: <f6.28a121a.26e96e2c@aol.com>

Thanks to everyone who aided me with my computer ailment, the re-install went
swimmingly well.  The system now rawks!

Next question:

Looking for a new home for my site: Optimism's Flames
http://members.tripod.com/~The_Last_Balloon/

Can anyone recommend a good, cheap, fast and non advert displaying server for
me here in the USA?

The F'N ad banners, whether they be pop ups or embedded, are driving me out
of my damn mind!!!!!!!

Once I find a new home I plan on adding a LOT of MP3 and REEL audio to the
site for you all to download and roll around naked in. (just like I do)

wesLONG

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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:46:52 +0930
From: "Van Abbe, Dominic" <dominic.vanabbe@au.faulding.com>
Subject: Assorted demos
Message-ID: <45C458C0C9C7D2119F790000F87A42A40269C5D4@s-mulgrave6.faulding.com.au>

Hi folx,

I'm trying to assemble my demos in some sort of chronological order.  Can
anybody in the know out there help me place the timeframe of the following
tracks:

Jacob's Ladder (Now we all dead)
Susan Revolving
Nicely nicely Jane
Monkeys in humanskin suits
Pearl
Holding the baby

I would imagine Susan and Jane were ideas for the Dukes, such is their
psychadelic bent, but I'm just not sure.

Also, does anyone have reasonable quality copies for trade of the following:
*	Are You Receiving Me- John Leckie produced version
*	Love At First Sight- from abandoned double A-side single (i.e. not
Black Sea version)
*	The other track from the above abandoned double A-side single (name
escapes me at the moment- was it Rocket From a Bottle??)
*	Beating Of Hearts- from abandoned double A-side single i.e. not
Mummer version
*	The other track from the above abandoned double A-side single (name
escapes me here too- was it Wonderland??)
*	The Disappointed- demo
*	In Another Life- demo
*	The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul- demo
*	The Lemon Dukes demos other than Candymine, It's Snowing Angels and
Standing in for Joe (i.e. demos of tracks such as Visit to the Doctor,
Cherry in Your Tree)

E-mail me off list please if you can help.

Cheers all,
Dom
(dominic.vanabbe@au.faulding.com)

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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:18:58 -0700
From: Ed Kedzierski <ed.kedzierski@blvdmedia.com>
Subject: Je suis un sad bastard
Message-ID: <08B5DDC2BABCD311BFC6005004A884B013B7F8@mgcservices.com>

In 6-262, Kirk Gill said:

>And a song that always gets a tear out of me is "Love Is Stronger Than
Death" by The The. A true nugget of tenderness from the harsh world of Matt
Johnson.
My God, I can't believe I didn't include any the The on my previous "sad"
list! Especially as "Dusk" (where "Love is Stronger Than Death" comes from)
is one of the premier wallowing aids in my collection. "Bluer Than Midnight"
is also a strong contender from that album in the
"fetal-position-tearstained-pillow-empty-bottle-of-red-wine-on-the-night-tab
le" stakes (not that I'm saying that's what I do... well not that often,
anyway). As it were. And "This is the Night". Hell, the whole damn album. In
fact, the The is one of my fave suppliers of music to be depressed by, when
it seems like the best course of action is just to embrace the black dogs
and come out the other side, rather than splashing water on your face and
trying to "buck up" or whatever.

Another note:
FINALLY started checking out Ween, after literally years of people telling
me I'd love them. They were right (actually, it was a friend who's a big
Ween fan and who knows I'm a big XTC fan telling me "You'll like White
Pepper - it's Ween's influenced-by-XTC album, kind of" that got me to check
it out; he wasn't that far off). Can't get either "Even if You Don't" or
"Piss Up a Rope" out of my head. One observation: people who dismiss these
guys as a "joke" band (or whatever facile quibble people tend to have when
confronted with music that's anything other than 100% "serious") are making
a big mistake.

Ed K.

"Making people laugh is the lowest form of comedy"
- Micheal O'Donoghue

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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:23:56 CDT
From: "vee tube" <veetube@hotmail.com>
Subject: Eels MP3s
Message-ID: <F50xpAOAkK5LqN33HFn00007317@hotmail.com>

                     Hi Kids!

        (If you've never used my idrives please
         see Chalkhills Vol.6 No.205 RE:Warbles)

      Yo! Tanx Deb! But the Eels MP3s are not mine.
   Someone named Ian takes care of E-Freaks! And like
   me, all of his stuff is rare/out of print/B-side/
   live/boot stuff.

      Also like my stuff, the sound quality varies from
   way bad to excellent! (Damn bootleggers!) You can find
   his stuff at...

     idrive.com/eels1
                    2
                    3

       I have ALL of it and,you should too!

                  }---:)

P.S. 1Fuzzy should be up by next weekend.

      "It ain't nova till da phat phin bumbles!"

                          V.T. '00

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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 21:38:15 CDT
From: "vee tube" <veetube@hotmail.com>
Subject: A Little Help Please?
Message-ID: <F45F1HkikieqXItMcx400006044@hotmail.com>

                Dear Humans,

    Every time I ask for help on the 'Hill,
  someone comes to my rescue,thanx! I now submit
  one new request...

    I'm trying to finish the 'Fuzzy' collection.
  I have a copy of "Bags w/Buster" but, it sounds
  like sh*t. I'll use it if I have too, however, I
  know at least 10 of you are old enough to have
  an original 'flexi' of this song.

    And, I, Bet, at, least, 2, of, you. Have the
  means and wherewithal to rip and up me an MP3.

    If you can help,please E me off post. Thanx!

               }---:)

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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 22:31:10 -0400
From: "Neal Buck" <nealhbuck@earthlink.net>
Subject: Gather 'Round Children...
Message-ID: <200009080219.TAA15893@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

Chalkhills & Kidz,

Talk about de-lurking! What's it been? Two years? Now let's see, to bring
you all up to speed - Mon. after I last posted, I went to the store, Tues. .
. . Hey! where's everyone going? Oh, OK, I'll give you the short take. I got
married, bought a house, and the printing company I worked for was bought by
a larger company and is now the largest in the world, so why is my sense of
job security so low?

First of all, let me clear up some business. John, my former ISP deleted my
account before I had a chance to forward my mail. I am now with EarthLink,
but I had to re-subscribe, since there seems to be no procedure for a
"change of address" in Chalkhills. Is this correct, or did I miss something
(which is possible)? I assume the program dumped my old address when it
didn't respond, but just in case there are any lingering threads, it was
<nealhbuck@erols.com>.

OK, now for more fun things. I appreciated hearing about the interest in
Will Powers. I actually have a tape of it (not pre-recorded). It was a great
send-up of all the so-called self-improvement/success propaganda out at the
time (not that it's gone away). It was kind of cool that some respectable
musicians put some of the positive aspects of that genre out for the rest of
us, while at the same time lampooning the "Miracle-Grow" side of it. Being a
Todd fan, I also remember that it was during his adventures into
"psycho-acoustic" music, tho' I don't know much about it or what happened
with it. One thing I always wondered about, was the huge list of
"Contributors" on the inner sleeve, some of whom were mentioned in posts, or
heard plainly on the album. Anyone know who contributed what? There's got to
be about 200 names on that sleeve!

Concerts, oh, concerts...

1st "rock" concert -
Deep Purple w/Family, '74. I had "Machine Head", "Woman from Tokyo" had just
come out, I was high, and didn't know who to look at, so I pretty much
ignored Blackmore. He might of done some amazing things that night, but
don't ask me...

Best concerts - Oh Lord!
1) Todd R/Utopia, '79, at Merriweather Post Pavillion- the start of my TR
fandom, and inspiration to follow my dream of a rock musical that WORKS,
dammit!
2) XTC, twice. Drums & Wires, then Black Sea tours, first at Gaston Hall,
Georgetown Univ. w/Fingerprintz, then Painters Mill Music Fair, Baltimore. I
actually met them after the first concert, which was my first "rock star"
meeting. I shared about this experience in my very first Chalkhills post.
Suffice it to say I was stoned & stupid (see above) & ignorant of their
music at the time, and they were drunk, and well, British. There was a
communications gap, to say the least. At least I found out they were friends
with Bill Nelson (another fave).
Other greats - King Crimson (Discipline/Beat/Three of a Perfect Pair - first
at PMMF, then at MPP), the Who, '76 at the Capitol Center, DC- the legends
were true! Amazing. Zappa (4x, but esp. '76 at the Philadelphia Spectrum),
the original Pretenders, Queen/Thin Lizzy, Led Zeppelin, the League of
Gentlemen, the Police (Regatta de Blanc), Joe Jackson (I'm the Man), Dead
Kennedys, on and on and on...

Unusual concert -
League of Crafty Guitarists, American Univ. Final recital for music class
Fripp was teaching in Virginia. Held in a classroom, Fripp in comfy sweater,
relaxed and joking. Did a version of "Larks Tongue..." if I remember
correctly.

Strange Billing -
ZZ Top w/KISS, Black Oak Arkansas w/Montrose (the original w/Sammy Hagar),
Nantucket w/the Cars, the Clash w/"Screamin'" Jay Hawkins (& 4 Out of 5
Doctors) - I think the Clash wanted him, but the crowd booed, which was very
sad.

Most seen -
Hands down, it's Todd/Utopia - at least a dozen times, in all his/their
guises. A true entertainer - you should have seen his imitation of REO! And
yet, there's always that equipment malfunction...

Missed concerts -
1) The Beatles (twice!). I grew up in Forest Hills, NYC, NY, former home of
the US Open Tennis Championship, and therefore, the Forest Hills Tennis
Club. The Beatles played there twice, in '64 & '65. I was about 8/9 yrs.
old, and my Mom was afraid I'd get trampled by pre-pubescent girls (she was
probably right). So I had to listen to it going on from way down the street.
I know that sounds whiney, but it's almost worse than not knowing what you
missed.
2) XTC, the Bayou, DC. Same Black Sea Tour as above, but swinging back
around for the Washington crowd. Once again, pot got me in trouble. The
Bayou used to be a cool place to spark up at a concert, but there was new
management, and the doob got passed to me, and... I spent the rest of the
Dec. night outside listening to XTC play live for what was to be the last
time. When English Settlement tour tickets went on sale at PMMF, I snatched
'em up, but... I got my money back. Crap.

OK, this went on too long, but it could have been much longer. Then again,
it's been two years, so piss off! Anyway, good to be back, I hope to be
contribute more often.

Neal
(the poster formerly known as the "New Town Animal")

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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 03:03:39 +0000
From: pdresslar@att.net
Subject: Sad songs = Everything by Jeff Buckley
Message-ID: <20000908030340.MFOS2687.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>

Everything in his oeuvre is inherently sad, cause he
died way. Even the sweetness of "Lilac Wine"... vinegar.
And "Satisfied Mind" is just otherworldly.

-Peter

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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 02:19:56 EDT
From: WTDK@aol.com
Subject: Of Apples, Oranges & Lemons
Message-ID: <ae.a46845e.26e9df0c@aol.com>

WTDK@aol.com wrote:
> You would be right about it not being a common term. Don't have the
> novel in front of me but Burgess used Russian along with a couple of
> sources to create slang for "the future" (which, by the way, folks has
> arrived. Just look around you. It isn't quite as extreme as Burgess
> imagined it but his cautionary tale, sadly, has merged with reality).

> Not to put too fine a point on it, but the novel and the film are really
>  much more about the past than the future. Brush up on your Genesis
>  chapters 1 through 3. Yes, the window-dressing is futuristic, and I agree
>  that we see that scenery on the TV news more or less daily now. The core
>  concepts, though, are as old as dirt, and by dirt I mean mankind.

Good point (which is why I had "future" in quotation marks. Actually, I
remember reading sometime back (memory is tricky here so I'm paraphrasing)
that Burgess was inspired by 1984. He indicated that just like that classic
work A Clockwork Orange was inspired by the present as much as the past.

Finally turned a buddy on to Wasp Star. After listening to it hundreds of
time he had to admit it had the best song craft he'd heard since the Beatles
and The Beach Boys. Hurray! He bought it as well didn't just download it from
Napster. He did get his first taste from Naspter though.

Thematically Burgess was inspired by quite a few different sources. A pity
his other novels haven't been turned into as fine  a film as Kubrick's.

Oh, by the way the reason that the Russian like slang appears is that Burgess
envisioned a world where the Russian's won the cold war. That was his little
clue that they had and that the world was overrun by the "evil empire" (as it
was once laughingly referred to).

>Or how's about Saddest Albums? Well, there's albums that suck so bad that
>they make me sad when I listen to 'em, but that's not what I'm talking
>about. What I AM talking about is Marianne Faithful's album "Blazing
Away." When I'm feeling good and listen to it, it darkens me, taking me
down trails of pain and loss.

Very good choice! There are parts of Plastic Ono Band (and Lennon's best work
on the White Album) that stand out for me. Julia captures Lennon's feeling of
loss over his mother so well. McCartney's Tug of War and  Blackbird both
resonate with the sadness evident in some of Lennon's best work.

Peter Gabriel's Family Snapshot works on a couple different levels but
ultimately there is an underlying sadness to the character's existence.

Anyhow, any comments from anyone on Gabriel's new work?

Wayne

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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:37:12 +0100
From: "Smith, David" <David.Smith@tfeurope.com>
Subject: RE: Getting drunk with micro-celebrities . . .
Message-ID: <4BBE67B71C1DD411A23600508B65F71E6861D0@tfsecmsg04.tfseur.co.uk>

Hey!
What?
Chicka-chicka-bop, Globetrotters
Chicka-chicka-bop, Oh Yeah

Errr, sorry . . . sometimes you get a  theme tune in your head!

Simon Deane wrote on the thread of unsung bass heroes:

"Agree about Col. Another one who deserves a mention is Norman
Watt-Roy of the Blockheads. Excellent recorded work generally
with Ian Dury but that bass line in "Rhythm Stick" before the
chorus - jolly good, in my view."

Agreed Simon - I had the pleasure of meeting Norman at the Jazz
Cafe in London with my mate (who's a bassist). We were there
watching the Average White band and he was at the bar - it was
only a couple of weeks after Dury's death.

My mate offered him a drink, explaining how much he enjoyed his
work and fully expecting a polite "no thanks" type brush-off. Oh
yeah?

"Cheers mate, 'll have a double brandy and coke . . ." was the
friendly (and slightly cheeky) reply. Naturally we had to join him
on his preferred tipple (it would have been rude and churlish not
to . . .).

Four rounds (of doubles) later we were all "stupidly happy" and the
conversation had covered bass technique, other muso stuff, what
he was working on now (nothing, actually), drinking (a pastime
we all enjoy) and Ian Dury ("lovely bloke, but don't get on his
wrong side . . .").

The concert was great, Daryl Hall (of Hall and Oates) was also in the
Cafe and joined the AWB on stage for a four track encore and we
spent a couple of entertaining hours with a truly nice bloke in Norman
Watt-Roy.

My only regret was that I didn't ask him his opinion of XTC - music/brain
overload probably.

Don't get many evenings like that.

The lovely Jayne brought up (literally) The Wurzels:

	"They were best known for taking Brand New Key & turning it into
	I've got a Brand New Combine Harvester.If anyone else can explain
	this better - go on please."

Alright then . . . don't forget they also took one of the worst EVER songs,
namely "Oona Paloma Blanca" and made it EVEN WORSE by turning it into
. . ."I am a Cider Drinker", as in (and I've typed this phonetically to get
the Zumerzet accent):

Oi arm a Zoider drinkerrrrrr
Oi drinks it arl of the day
Oi arm a Zoider drinkerrrrrr
It soothes arl me trubbils away
Ooh arr ooh arr ay
Ooh arr ooh arr ay

Ahhhhh, perfection . . . they're still going you know! A bit like
Tuberculosis.

Oh, and "Fife Aid"??  Bwwwoooaaaaarrrrrrr har har har!

Smudge "Reasons to be cheerful" Boy
E-Mail: david.smith@tfeurope.com

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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:12:21 +0200
From: Johan Ekdahl <johan.ekdahl@programbyran.se>
Subject: Behindness, Steely Dan and Radiohead (very little XTC content)
Message-ID: <E1FE4AE1AF2DD111885A00A02479F442150149@sofia.programbyran.se>

In #6-262 Jeff wrote:
>Usually, I love to see Chalkhills in my morning e-mail.  But, as of this
>morning, I am now 34 digests behind and counting, and I still don't know
>when I'll be able to catch up.  I have no idea what's being discussed at
>the moment, but I'm so busy...

Well, I lost it at #6-202 which leaves me about 60 issues behind so
You are beaten. I just dived into the latest issue, noting that one
of my old favourites Mott the Hoople has become a subject. Got to
get through those sixty issues soon!

I used part of my vacation to give AV2 a thorough (spelling?)listen,
planning my most spacious contribution to the list so far entiteled
"What I did on my holidays, in fourteen parts" (Introduction, 12 tracks
and conclusion). Still haven't finished it...

Apart from earning my bucks (well, rather Swedish Krona), what has kept me?

Getting things done at home.
Meeting real people rather than You cyber-personalities. (-:

And going to concerts! I live in southern Sweden, just about 30 kilometers
from the Danish capital Copenhagen (straight line). Up until recently
a trip there for a concert was a real adventure, the trip taking up to
three hours each way by train, boat, foot, commuter-train and taxi.
The 1st of July the long-planned bridge between Sweden and Denmark was
opened.
We now go by train all the way, landing in central Copenhagen about one hour

after leaving home! So...

Last week I went over to hear and see Steely Dan. Unfortunately the concert
hall was a sports hall with high concrete walls, so I actually got to hear
everything twice, the second time about a quarter of a second after the
first... And the guy at the mixing-table wasn't having a good day. And
SD did not perform "Aja" (the song). So I went home a wee bit disappointed,
especially as the tickets where veeeery expesive.

Luckily everything was different yesterday as I went over for Radiohead,
who performed in a huge tent in front of maybe 4000 people. They where
marvellous! You'd think that Steely Dan would come closest to their
studio sound when playing live, but that prize goes to Radiohead! Not
playing too loud, with excellent control, and at the same time fixing
the sponrtaneous feeling You'd expect. And playing for 2 hours!
Both old material, and new from the still-to-be-released new album "Kid A".

The new material is even less guitar-pop/rock than "OK Computer", but
sounds very interesting. Seems like Radiohead is becoming UK's Neil
Young in the "Rust-Never-Sleeps-sense"...

So I'm still alive although lurking, but hopefully I'll finish my
fourteen-part-essay soon!

As always, a special salute to Mark in the Lighthouse , Sushiman, John
Bartlett (still here?), and our master-of-ceremonies Mr. Relph!

  --Johan Ekdahl, Sweden

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