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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 246

                 Saturday, 19 August 2000

Topics:

                           misc
             mature XTC kicks early XTC butt
                      Wrapped in...?
              Re: Concerts good bad and ugly
                   Re: Promotional CDs
                         concerts
                     "Bonus" effects
         The Last Balloon & The Top 10 XTC Songs
                         Concerts
                       Re: Concerts
                      More concerts
                    Re: concert thread
                   Samples, schmamples
                    Words Words Words
                      First concerts
                         Concerts
                         Concerto
                   Re: Nothing Like XTC

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:01:29 -0400
From: "Michael D. Myers" <mmyers@telcordia.com>
Subject: misc
Message-ID: <8525693F.004D107B.00@notes949.cc.telcordia.com>

Chalksters and Chalkettes;

A few things to get off my chest:

- Hey "Radios in Motion", did you ever consider that when you say things
like another person is "quite ignorant" or they're a "smart-a** little
kid", that might just be a little inflammatory and insulting?  You could
certainly make your point without getting nasty.  Your posts have fallen
into the "automatic page-down" category, friend.  A post like your recent
one just makes the flaming back-and-forth activity escalate, and to be
honest, that's the most boring thing I could think of.  I encourage you to
lighten up and think twice before you hit the "send" button.

- I just got the newest Little Express yesterday and it really does
reflect the difference between how current a fanzine can remain compared
to the Web (most of the stuff was at least 1 year old).  However, there
are several interviews with band members that you won't see anywhere else.
In fact, I got a small laugh when Dave was talking about the Website that
"some girl from Swindon" was going to build for him.  Of course, Debie
Edmonds has completed the terrific "Guitargonauts" site with major
assistance from Mark S.

- Someone recently complained about Ray Davies allowing "You Really Got
Me" to be played on those annoying Gap commercials, and compared his
"selling out" to Neil Young, who refuses to license his music for
corproate use.  Before you make such a claim, you should really consider
the fact that most artists do not own the rights to their productions,
particularly if the songs are from the 60's.  I would be shocked if Ray
owned the rights to that old material.  More likely, someone else owns the
rights and did the licensing.  Ray probably collects a few bucks for
writing the song but probably doesn't have the right to prevent its use.
Please recall that Michael Jackson owns (still, I believe) the Beatles
back publishing catalog and has allowed the use of some songs for
commercial use.  So criticizing Ray is like criticizing the Beatles for
"Revolution" being in a Nike commercial (or some car ad, I don't remember
which it was).

See you,
Mike

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:23:08 -0400
From: Richard Hamilton <shepham@frontiernet.net>
Subject: mature XTC kicks early XTC butt
Message-ID: <B5C2E93C.6D58%shepham@frontiernet.net>

In #6-242, Ed Kedzierski quoth Mr. Easter and myself (we had rather
coincidentally both posted our affinity for XTC's "mature" period, and
rather amazingly both defined that period beginning with Skylarking)
essentially to debate whether or not Skylarking is an appropriate choice
with which to draw such a line

> ... So... What do
> you NOT hear, that you think is missing, and you love about the
> post-Skylarking stuff? I'm honestly asking, because to me, the "mature"
> period is like an unbroken line reaching all the way back to ES (and parts
> of BS).

Alrighty, (rolling up the sleeves), lets get down to bidness:

PRE SKYLARKING ATTRIBUTES MISSING FROM THE "MATURE" ALBUMS
1. Previously mentioned noises issuing from the mouths of babes (BTW, ES not
only has the "oh oh oh oh oh" of Down in the Cockpit, but also the "way ah
oh oh ay oh ah" of "No Thugs in Our House" (one of my favorite tracks on the
platter), lots of mm mmmm mmm way de do way ah oh on "yacht dance", the
indescribable hoots and hollers on "Melt the Guns", and the whoa whoa whoa
whao WHOA, ah whoa oo oh ohh on "Leisure.") In fact, now that I look at the
discography again, I think ES is the very last XTC album to feature such an
assortment of vocal filler.

And this is one of my points about "Early" vs. "mature" XTC: in the early
period, Andy and Colin used a lot of non-verbal lines in choruses and verses
to set up the various melodies or to create rhythmic tensions in the song.
During the "mature" period, I think they do a much better job at creating
interesting vocal effects and tensions within the lyrics, without resorting
to la-la's. Two quick examples: "Summer's Cauldron" (the effect of Andy's
vocalization of the first two lines sets up the mood and tempo for the whole
song), and more recently "Harvest Festival" (the sheer brilliance of the
transition of "what was best of all was/the longing look you gave me") or
"Easter Theater" ("if we all breathe in/and blow away the smoke/you'd
say/we'd applaud her new life": there's enough rich lyrical and musical
texture in these lines to fill a truckload of "Down in the Cockpits"). I
guess what I'm saying ultimately with this point is that the songs of the
"mature" XTC are both more lyrically and musically coherent and complete.

2. The "mature" XTC songs are (by in large) less pedantic than the "early"
XTC songs. Look, I'm not claiming that all later songs are NOT pedantic
(certainly one has to be pretty numb to avoid the messages of songs like
"Dear God", "Books are Burning", "Wrapped in Grey" or even "Church of
Women") but I think that the narrative aspect of the songs has become more
and more important since Skylarking. That is, the songs are less a vehicle
for a "message", and more a presentation of instances/images/feelings/moods
that allow the listener to derive his or her own message. Take "Harvest
Festival", once again, one of my favorite tracks from AV1, which is
basically the presentation of several well-written scenes without any
editorial asides. And there's nothing profound, cosmic, or earth shattering
here either to numb the brain: just "the longing look you gave me/enough to
keep me fed all year". I mean, this to me is the pinnacle of Andy's ability:
a song that packs so much emotion into such simple lyrical delivery, and it
doesn't bash you over the head in any way, just quietly leaks into your
soul.

I have many more points to make on this particular topic and I enjoy the
feedback of the list. To be continued...

Rich

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:58:13 -0700
From: "Steve Young" <sjyoung@hotmail.com>
Subject: Wrapped in...?
Message-ID: <OE40AphwFutJLtosJ3I000019d8@hotmail.com>

Dan Wiencek opined:
>Well, they can flame me too. I've never really been pleased with that
>coda, particularly because the lyrics are incomprehensible without
>consulting the liner notes.
>Andy's weird, ululating warble is completely at odds with the lovely,
>Beach Boy-ie vocal work he does throughout the song proper, and
>you have a slight blot on what is otherwise a lovely song.

I had to remind myself several times before I finally consulted the notes
for this one.  For a while I grudgingly accepted it as "...and in very least
you can stand the making of gray."  When I was enlightened, it was like, "oh
geez, Andy, of course - I should have known."

I was certain I had the "parrots and lemurs" line wrong - "how fantastic
that would be!" I thought.  A friend of mine thought it was "parents and
weaners".  An earlier digester recalled a misheard line from "Radios in
Motion": "apples in the ocean" (I like that!).  This was one of those
wonderful things - I thought, "mine's the best!"  But it turned out to be
correct!

I have never quite minded this coda.  Why not?  In my mind it's a perfect
transition to "The Ugly Underneath".  Then again, perhaps he could have
ended the song with a pack of dogs barking over a ukulele and I would have
joined the two tracks in my brain just as enthusiastically.

~~Steve

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:06:22 -0600
From: Olof Hellman <hellman@ksan.ms.nwu.edu>
Subject: Re: Concerts good bad and ugly
Message-ID: <B5C2E54D.ED%hellman@ksan.ms.nwu.edu>

First: CSNY 1982 Indianapolis
Best Concert: Stanley Jordan, Cambridge MA, 1988
Runner-up: Violent Femmes, Wellesley College 1985
Most Disappointing: Tito Puentes, Ravinia 1998 ( and he didn't even look
like the character in the SImpsons!)
Worst Concert:  Squeeze Long Island 1985 (they all had colds)
Most Inexplicable: Kid Creole and the Coconuts -- where was that??
Worst Concert Moment:  Ferron getting booed, Boston, Phantom Centre tour
Wish I'd been there:  every XTC show ever

--
Olof Hellman
Northwestern University Department of Materials Science & Engineering

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:04:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com>
Subject: Re: Promotional CDs
Message-ID: <200008181804.OAA11435@metheny.brainiac.com>

Folks, one thing to remember when you buy a CD stamped "Promotional" -
you are hosing the artist twice over.  Not only are you depriving them of
a sale, but they're the once that paid for that disk in the first place!

Yep, the record labels charge all such promo disks back to the artist,
which is one of the reasons XTC could never get in the black with
Virgin.  It's all part of the slime that is the recording industry.
Check out the following link to see how a band with a hit record can
still lose money:
  http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

======================================================================
       Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh@brainiac.com
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:05:28 -0400
From: "Roberts, Peter" <Peter.Roberts@novainfo.com>
Subject: concerts
Message-ID: <074CBB342C7BD311971B00508B6F7FD403B1B711@SPC-MAIL>

I figured I'd put my $0.02 in here:
First concert: Yes, the Relayer tour (with Patrick Moraz), 1974. A band
called Gryphon opened.
Best concert: Wayne Shorter tribute, SF, CA, Mar 18, 2000. An evening of
great music.
Runner-up best: toss-up between Pat Metheny's Secret Story tour and the
YellowJackets' The Spin tour.
Most disappointing concert (boy am I gonna get flamed, but here it is): TMBG
very early on, when it was 2 guys and a
	tape loop. Left early.
Seen most times: Fishbone, 9 times as of now. They used to be so much fun
live! Now they're too political/preachy.	second: tie: Primus and Red
Hot Chili Peppers (5)
Worst shit I've ever witnessed live: The Melvins (they were opening for
Primus)
'What the hell was I thinking' concert: Ted Nugent - 4 guitarists onstage (I
didn't pay; got smart and left early)
Worst date concert: Big Audio Dynamite w/my ex-wife (at least Live was on
the bill)
"Wish I'd been there": Miles Davis Quintet (the 2nd one w/Herbie, Wayne,
Tony, and Ron) but I was only 2 or 3!
"Boy did I screw up": I missed out on a chance to see Miles in a small club
in DC.
"Am I glad I saw that": Dead Kennedys, Frankenchrist tour, 1986
Most fun: Bela Fleck before the Flecktones got huge with the
Widespread/Phish/hippie crowd

Other great concerts I have seen:
Ahmad Jamal Trio, 1999
Herbie Hancock, 1999
( and I'm going to see Kenny Barron tomorrow night!! )
KORN, 1995 when they were still hungry (I saw them this year; they appeared
to be going thru the motions)
Police, Synchronicity tour ( I love Stewart!! )
The Cure, 1992 (Wish tour?) I saw them again this year, not as good.
Nine Inch Nails, Downward Spiral tour (one of the most energetic I've ever
seen)
Maxwell, Urban Hang Suite tour, 1997?
Violent Femmes, 3 tour, small theater in Washington, DC

well, maybe that was $0.04 worth...

Pete Roberts
NOVA Information Systems

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:58:07 -0400
From: Sylvan <psiogen@mindspring.com>
Subject: "Bonus" effects
Message-ID: <399D954E.CD2F22CE@mindspring.com>
Organization: ttp://www.sportingnews.com/baseball

>The metal-on-metal clinking noise in Towers has got to be my favorite
>"added bonus".  I swear it brings the song to life- it certainly always
>invokes images in my mind of people sweating away to build it!  How many
>other artists would take the time to add something this creative to
>further develop and enrich a song?

Agreed. Another song with a similar type of finishing touch:
The coffee maker sound on TMBG's Nyquil Driver. And of course, there's
the train sounds on Train Running Low on Soul Coal.

By the way, hello.

Sylvan

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:05:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Radios In Motion <radiosinmotion@iwon.com>
Subject: The Last Balloon & The Top 10 XTC Songs
Message-ID: <384091215.966629110484.JavaMail.root@web184-iw>

Someone mentioned The Last Balloon as being one of the saddest XTC songs.  I
never looked at it that way because I guess I never really thought about it.
I know for one thing, its one of those songs that puts you in a relaxed
state.  Its a perfect closing for AV1.  Oh, though I have the lyrics right
in front of me, I still swear he says "Human Fuck" though I know he says
something like "you men folk" I still hear it as Human fuck.  Anyway...

"I really think it's about time that she caaaaayyyyyyaaayyyyyayyyame
dowwwwnnnnnn...."

Helicopter is probably one of my top 5 favorite XTC songs.  How bout a top 5
favorite XTC list.   I will start.  This will be in no particular order
though.  These tracks have always stuck out as my favorites.

01. Dear God
02. Helicopter
03. Senses Working Overtime
04. It's Nearly Africa
05. No Language In Our Lungs
06. The Mayor of Simpleton
07. Then She Appeared
08. Funk Pop a Roll
09. I'd Like That
10. We're All Light

Honorable Mentions:

Life Is Good In The Greenhouse
Complicated Game
All You Pretty Girls
Brainiacs Daughter
That is the Way

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:42:09 -0400
From: "Barry Koch" <barry@together.net>
Subject: Concerts
Message-ID: <NCBBJIDGOJNFJLOFJEJGEENHCKAA.barry@together.net>

Hi

First Concert: Boston - Early 80's - The Rainbow, London England.
Yeaaahhhh!
Best Concert (Large): Talking Heads - Mid 80's - Smith Center, Washington
D.C.  "Stop Making Sense" tour.
Best Concert (Small): NRBQ - Mid 80's - Toad's Place, New Haven CT. - NRBQ
prior to Al Anderson's departure were a sight to behold.  Just fun.
Worst Concert: Cowboy Junkies - Mid 90's - Flynn Theatre, Burlington VT. - I
distinctly remember people coughing, chairs creaking and feeling bored.
Just awful.  Ugh.
Weirdest Concert Experience: Grateful Dead - Mid 80's - Hampton Coliseum,
Hampton VA. - Getting thrown out by security after the show with friend who
kept vomiting.

Barry

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:03:27 EDT
From: MFanton00@cs.com
Subject: Re: Concerts
Message-ID: <b9.608791f.26cef08f@cs.com>

Why I picked the Live/Weezer as the most disappointing was mainly because I
stupidly was in the mosh pit, and I didn't know it was the mosh pit until I
got kicked in the head and pushed all over the place.  I almost got my
glasses broken.  I swore after than concert to stay away from mosh pits. :P

Molly

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:48:51 EDT
From: FOPP1@aol.com
Subject: More concerts
Message-ID: <7f.89120d7.26cefb33@aol.com>

Greetings Chalksters-
Reflecting on the wide-range of concerts we've seen as been an interesting
thread. Here are a few of mine from the past:

First Concert - Jimi Hendrix 1970 Seattle - Sicks Stadium. Didn't have my
drivers license yet but my folks drove a few friends up to the concert.
Depositing us on the opposite side of the street from the old baseball park
the defunct Seattle Pilots played at. I remember stepping out of the car,
immediately spying a concert flyer attached to a telephone pole and carefully
detached it before we walked across the street to the stadium. The bad
Seattle weather put a damper on the show but it was a very memorable
experience. The recording we made on a old cassette recorder has been long
lost but I still have the framed concert flyer hanging on a wall. We felt
like 'babes in the woods.'  ...and we were really!

Best Concert- a tie!
Jethro Tull - promoting 'Thick as a Brick' Seattle Coliseum 1972?
Elvis Costello - promoting 'Brutal Youth'  Paramount/Seattle 1994

Glad I was there Concert- Both in London during the summer of 1971
The Faces - Queen E. Theater
T.Rex - Hammersmith Odeon
also
Suzanne Vega playing a small club in Seattle promoting her debut LP - 1985

Most Disappointing Concert- Neil Young - promoting 'Everybody's Rocking'
Seattle Coliseum 1982? - I'm a huge Neil fan and have seen him on a number of
occasions
but this was a real low point.

Most Recent Concert- Steve Kilbey (The Church) London - Borderline  July 2000

Wish I had been there Concert- XTC at the Showbox in Seattle1979. We chose to
see the Undertones instead... so it goes.

Martin Fopp

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:53:08 -0700
From: "Victor Rocha" <wstsidela@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: concert thread
Message-ID: <00b901c00956$5047e3e0$45548218@we.mediaone.net>

* FIRST CONCERT: Kiss - Anaheim Stadium -1976 (billing: Bob Seager,
Montrose, Ted Nugent, Kiss)

* BEST CONCERT: Oingo Boing - Whiskey-A-Go-Go (invitation only) - 1994

* BEST CONCERT RUNNER-UP: tie: Smashing Pumpkins(Palladium - 1993)/ Pearl
Jam (Coachella Valley -1994) I worked for production company so I was on the
side of the stage for both shows.

*WORST CONCERT: Mathew Sweet - The Palace in Holywood - 1993 (crappy songs +
crappy sound = bad night)

* "WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING?" CONCERT: Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush -
Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino - 1978?

* "WISH I'D BEEN THERE" CONCERT: XTC- San Diego 1982-3? the last american
show.

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:28:55 -0500
From: "JH3" <jh3@winco.net>
Subject: Samples, schmamples
Message-ID: <003901c0095b$5062cca0$2373fbd1@JH3.alternatech.net>

Mister RadiosInMotion His-Bad-Self writes:

>I am not going to get into a debate about this too but TMBG did use samples.
>Your somehow misguided into believe that no one in the whole world uses
>samples but rap artists and if that is what you believe, you are quite
>ignorant.  A SAMPLE IS A PIECE OF MUSIC!  So, if you are using a synth with
>drum sounds, or orchestra sounds, or whatever sounds, that is called, uhhhh,
>yes A SAMPLE! Yes, they used drum machines, and ask anyone with any
>knowledge of music equipment and you will find out that a drum machine is a
>machine where buttons trigger samples stored in memory.

I'd guess that most of the people who are taking the opposing side in this
debate - which you're not getting into, of course - are familiar with how
drum machines work. (I know Sherwood does...) But if you're saying there's
no qualitative or ethical difference between using a 50-millisecond sampled
snare-drum sound vs. using a 5-6 second "loop" that's easily recognizable
as having been taken from somebody's old (but still copyrighted) hit single,
well then, I think we've boiled it down to the essential difference of opinion
right there!

I just hope the courts don't come to agree with *you*, or a TON of
lawsuits will almost surely result. I just hope my old drum machine
used original non-copyrighted samples, or I'm screwed! (Luckily,
none of my records ever sold more than 4 or 5 copies each...)

<rant-mode>
If you want my personal opinion, this is a case where an arguably interesting
technique (i.e., using lengthy recognizable samples of familiar copyrighted
tunes) has been used so extensively and *successfully* over the last 5-10
years that a whole new category of lawyers has appeared - lawyers who
specialize in suing people for precisely these kinds of "violations." If this
sort of thing were a rare occurrence (and it doesn't matter who does it),
those lawyers would be doing something else, and the traditional copyright
attorneys would be a lot more hesitant to sue the "violators," because there
would be a lot fewer legal precedents for doing so. OTOH, most music biz
executives would sue their own mothers if there was any chance they could
profit by it, so maybe the extensiveness of the practice doesn't matter - but
the success almost certainly does.

The intellectual property situation in the US is bad enough, folks! Let's
all just hope it doesn't get any worse.
</rant-mode>

John "SR-16's Rule" Hedges
http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/xtc

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:31:41 -0400
From: MinerWerks <dminer@gte.net>
Subject: Words Words Words
Message-ID: <a04310100b5c2ffe07008@[63.17.229.9]>

My view of the current XTC issues, distilled to a few sentences:

"Wrapped In Grey" : I like the coda. But that probably stems from the
fact I like quirky music.

XTC "periods" : I actually think of XTC as a three-era group. I would
say the first two albums (perhaps D&W as well) are one period, where
the band was finding their voice. Then the period up to Big Express
is a kind of introspective, experimental and extremely varied period.
But then we hit the first Dukes of Stratosphear album which
revitalized the band and took them into their pastoral power-pop
period, heavily influenced by the Dukes style. I suppose we'd have to
put the Apple Venus albums in a new group, as well. Even though AV2
fits in the Dukes mold fairly well, AV1 was very divergent from much
that had come before (though Colin's tunes were somewhat in the mold
of the Dukes)

--------

To Megan Heller re: Self

Absolutely check out the debut album "Subliminal Plastic Motives" ...
a kinda hard-edge power pop album with a dash of hip-hop influence. I
can listen to that one over and over. The album was actually created
almost entirely by writer/singer Matt Mahaffey, but he recorded his
follow-up records with the band that he toured with.

I saw Self in concert twice while I was at school in Orlando, FL. The
band was *extremely* tight and they impressed me a great deal.
Powerful performance.

--------

Re: Meri Wilson's "Telephone Man"...
Some useless facts from Dr. Demento's 25th Anniversary Collection:

"Meri Wilson was born in Japan and raised in Marietta, Georgia. Her
"Telephone Man" became 1977's most improbable Top 20 single (it's on
the Rhino CD Have A Nice Day: Super Hits of the 70s Vol. 21). The
follow-up (from 1981) "Peter The Meter Reader" didn't chart, but we
get even more requests for this one."

--------

Band names - some guys in knew in Orlando had considered naming their
band Mellodious Thunk, but instead used this as a title for one of
their cassettes.

--------

And the finale: My life of concerts...

First concert: The Monkees, 1986 reunion tour
What I might call my first "real" concert: Belly with Radiohead and
The Bats, Orlando, FL 1993
Band I've seen most in concert: They Might Be Giants (9)
"What was I thinking" concert: MTV's Alternative Nation tour with
Spin Doctors, Screaming Trees & Soul Asylum (1992, perhaps?). I went
to see Spin Doctors, but discovered Soul Asylum. Over half the
audience left when Spin Doctors hit the stage... plus the venue was a
basketball arena - blah!
Most entertaining concert: "Weird Al" Yankovic, 1999
Best free concert: Got free Weezer tix from the record store I worked
at in Orlando.
Most irritating concert moment: Getting kicked in the head by a crowd
surfer at a TMBG show.
Most disappointing concert moment: Showing up to see Imperial Drag
and finding out they went on 20 minutes early, completely negating
the whole reason I showed up (thankfully we snagged free tix on the
way in instead of paying as intended).
Worst opening act: Seven Mary Three opening for Matthew Sweet
(thankfully, I was spared The Toadies as well)
Most personally gratifying concert moment: Having the Muffs dedicate
a song to me (a cover of the Pixies' "Manta Ray")
Runner up concert moment: at a different show, the Muffs played the
song I requested, even though the singer, Kim, had stopped playing it
live.
Concert I'm most looking forward to: Brian Wilson (w/the Florida
Orchestra) doing the entire Pet Sounds album (row 14!!)

= Dolby D =

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:19:17 EDT
From: Kasterborous@aol.com
Subject: First concerts
Message-ID: <ae.9738dc1.26cf1065@aol.com>

First gig?  Marillion, Cliffs Pavillion, Southend 1984
Best gig?   Either Big Country at Southend in 1986 or Peter Gabriel, London
1993
Worst gig?  Simple Minds, Wembley 1989
Why the hell did I go gig?  Jethro Tull, Hammersmith 1984 or The Groundhogs,
Epping 1984
Nicest surprise live?   Howard Jones, Birmingham 1985.
Dream gig?  XTC, obviously.

Mike Farley

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:28:08 -0300
From: Paulo X <paulox@onda.com.br>
Subject: Concerts
Message-ID: <l03130302b5c3626fa4dc@[200.195.210.234]>

Hi folks,

For all that matters, here are mine:

First: O Tereo (a Brazilian Pink Floyd-type of band) [Curitiba, 1975]

Best: Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds [Sao Paulo, 1989]

Second Best: Echo & the Bunnymen [Sao Paulo, 1987]

Most Disappointing: The Cure [Sao Paulo, 1987)

Why Did I Go?: Rock in Rio [Rio de Janeiro, 1985]
	       INXS/Soul Asylum [Curitiba, 1994]

"I Wish I Was There": Joy Division [Birmingham University, May 2, 1980]
	              XTC (circa 1980 -- yeah! URGH! stuff...)
	              Sex Pistols (Anarchy Tour)
	              David Sylvian (1988 Tour)

Paulo
Curitiba, Brazil

"When you come to a crossroads, take it."
                      -- Yogi Berra

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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 07:57:24 +0900
From: "John Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp>
Subject: Concerto
Message-ID: <001a01c00967$ba0efdc0$675791d2@johnboud>

First rock concert: Ten Years After / James Taylor

Best Concert: XTC at My Father's Place , Long Island , NY 1980
and The Who at Woodstock 1969 ( I was 15 in case you are interested )

Runner Up: The Cure at Hurrahs , NYC , 1979 ; King Crimson in Hartford , CT
( Discipline tour )

Most times seen in concert: The Cure , The Ramones , The Kinks

Most Disappointing:  The Kinks ( they were REALLY wasted and it was in the
early 70's during their Preservation Act phase with the bloated band ,
female singers , horns , etc ... )

Wish I'd been there concert: Fairport Convention in Tokyo 1995

Sushiman

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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:01:14 +1000 (EST)
From: Mark <mwot4794@mail.usyd.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Nothing Like XTC
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.93.1000819095817.26653E-100000@extro.ucc.usyd.edu.au>

> Lastly, someone recently asked about other artists we love that sound
> nothing like XTC.  Well, aside from that fact that I think nobody really
> sounds like XTC to begin with, I would say my main pick would be Tom
> Waits.

Hah! Beat you to it by *weeks*!

Possibly the ugliest man in the history of rock, but you gotta love him.
He just keeps getting better...

Anyway, for some XTC content, anyone else noticed the article in Mojo
about Andy Partridge's interest in Captain Beefheart? Don't have the date
of the article, sorry: i just read it in the shop.

Actually, I take back choosing TOm Waits. Captain Beefheart is just out
there on his own. No-one sounds like the Captain.

mrak
fast and bulbous

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	-- king crimson

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