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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 206

                 Wednesday, 26 July 2000

Topics:

                  Rumblings & Ramblings
                    Shut that Door(s)
                    Wasp Star Or Bust
            Re: Kevin Gilbert: Where to start?
                   Nick Drake & Aliens
                       The Pinnacle
                   Is this a good find?
               Eyes, Doors, and a reminder
                        XTC cover
             Please Slag Something Slaggable
              Get a towel! (no XTC content)
       George . . . you naughty, naughty boy . . .
         is this an 80s revival or is it just me?
           Welcoming Pagan Alyssa with a Story
                     It's a Monster!
                       Kosher Lamb
              dropped back by for five more
           a gentle jibe; extra-planetary picks

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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:52:05 -0500
From: "David" <peeng1@email.msn.com>
Subject: Rumblings & Ramblings
Message-ID: <000801bff52a$ebea5de0$fb6f243f@6914cqcqa015>

Seventh Grade says:

1. What do you call a boomerang that won't return? A Styx.

I need to go dust my Aerosmith shrine,

Senor Martin

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:41:31 +0100
From: "Smith, David" <David.Smith@tfeurope.com>
Subject: Shut that Door(s)
Message-ID: <4BBE67B71C1DD411A23600508B65F71E686048@tfsecmsg04.tfseur.co.uk>

Hey Dunks

Just in answer to your question from 6-201

"Alright people, can someone -- in a reasoned and
reasonable fashion - please explain to me why this band are routinely
excoriated on this list?"

It's probably not reasoned and/or reasonable, but it's pretty simple
in my case. I simply think they're over-hyped pretentious tripe. For me,
Jim Morrison was the Michael Hutchence of his age - no real talent except
a mediocre voice, "broody good looks (TM)" and a talent for posing and
posturing.

Sorry - this isn't designed to wind you up, but it's how I feel. Whenever
I hear a Doors track I'm immediately in "ohhhhh jeez, here we go again"
mode.

However - as always - I resolutely defend your right to love them and try
and
get them mentioned on the list. Which is a courtesy you don't seem to
want to extend to the guy who said he's not into Beck or Nick Drake.

Apparently this makes him a "nong". Nice piece of music fascism there mate!

Smudgeboy
E-Mail: david.smith@tfeurope.com

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 02:51:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Radios In Motion <radiosinmotion@iwon.com>
Subject: Wasp Star Or Bust
Message-ID: <383021210.964421500372.JavaMail.root@web186-iw>

I know I will get some flames, but please be gentle.  Now that all the
wrapping paper is off the Christmas gift, its getting dusty.  What I mean
is... Wasp Star is old already!  I hate to have a negative attitude and in
NO WAY am I saying the album is not good.  In fact, I still hear it all the
time.  Almost just as much as when I first got it.  What I am saying is, I
think the press it got, is the only press it will get.  I see it slowly
fading into obscurity like the past few albums.  I don't expect any hit
singles beyond a few misc adult charts and I think if we expect any more
then what we got, we are kidding ourselves.

(Feeling the tension of your responses, I gasp for breadth and clear my
head... ahhh, ok, I will continue)

Of course we all love XTC and know the album is great and I am not
disputing that.  I just think its going to be like AV1 and I don't expect
it to make much more of a buzz then it already has.  I just hope they keep
up and start working on more material instead of throwing in the towel
which is what I am scared of happening.  I just feel that because there is
no video, it has possibly hurt the promotion.  Maybe, and hopefully, I am
wrong.  Maybe I will eat my words and within the next few months Wasp Star
will get the press it deserves.  But lets be honest folks, how many of you
see that happening?

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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:44:22 -0500
From: "Joe Funk" <twosheds@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Kevin Gilbert: Where to start?
Message-ID: <004901bff529$d70d4aa0$7721fea9@user>

Greetings, Chalklings!!

First, my apologies for the spelling blunder on my last post.
For some reason, my spell checker doesn't like "Colin", and
if I am not careful (like..hitting "change" instead of "ignore!),
it will default to "Colleen"!!..
...No, this is not Andy's new Irish songwriting partner!

Anyway,
Ryan "I Am the Hamster From the Ministry" Anthony asked:

>Gotta question for you people. I've run across enough
>references to Kevin Gilbert to become curious. At his
>eponymic website, three albums are available: *Kevin
>Gilbert & Thud Live*, *Giraffe*, and *The Shaming of
>the True*. Which would you recommend to start?

Gotta start out with "The Shaming"....  I have given my
reasons for this purchase so many times, I will let someone
else on this list be the salesman...
also..The studio "Thud" is still available on Amazon & CDnow,
Highly Recommended!

>I don't know if I really read this here, or whether
>I'd done too many Diet Mountain Dews that day, but did
>Gilbert and his band really rip through most or all of
>*The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway*, and is that
>performance available on CD, eight-track tape, or
>Edison cylinder?

Yes, they did.. At Prog Fest '94 in CA....  It is not available
for purchase, but there are boots (excellent ones!) floating
around...
Kevin took the role of Rael, and assembled his Genesis freak
musician buddies which included Nick DiVirgilio: Spock's
Beard's Drummer, Keyboardist Dave Kerszner (sp?), with only
vintage Lamb-era keyboards, Guitarist and Steve Hackett
look-alike (and sound-alike!): Dan Hancock, and Stan Cotey:
Giraffe Guitarist who played Mike Rutherford's role.
Amazing performance from a band who did very little rehearsing,
because, from what I read, they all knew it so well from heart!

XTC content:  Does anyone have any background about the
recording of the "Bull With Golden Guts"?

Joe "And on the eighth day..There was music!" Funk

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:44:26 +0100
From: "Rory Wilsher" <rory_wilsher@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Nick Drake & Aliens
Message-ID: <001001bff5b8$92b84280$dfa4073e@oemcomputer>

    Hillions

Nick Drake has featured a lot on people's alien lists, and previously here
on the Hill. I confess to complete ignorance on this artist. However, I
trust your judgment implicitly as people of like mind - can someone give me
a good jumping-off point?

Rory "What a game, he's hiding all the cards" Wilsher

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:58:19 -0400
From: "Michael Versaci" <stormymonday@sprintmail.com>
Subject: The Pinnacle
Message-ID: <000201bff56e$d7b4a0d0$6948d23f@mtwe50004>

Folxtc,

"Abbey Road" is the pinnacle of popular music in the 20th century.

There is a passage in "You Never Give Me Your Money" - the part that
immediately follows:

"Oh that magic feeling
 Nowhere to go / nowhere to go"

that is absolutely stunning.  Paul (I think) playing a beautiful lead
guitar part, George chiming his subtle rhythm guitar through a Leslie and
the three of them singing "ahhhhhs" surpasses anything on any pop/rock
record.  Ever.

And the reprise of the theme in the "Golden Slumbers" medley?

Magnificent.

Michael Versaci

Nothing is ever perfect.  I would have replaced "Octopus's Garden" with a
full-blown, Martin produced version of "All Things Must Pass."

"...You missed a Spot!"

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:34:11 -0700
From: "John Keel" <jbkev1@ev1.net>
Subject: Is this a good find?
Message-ID: <004401bff573$dac43880$1d525d3f@sony.com>

Hey all,

Really quick note, but yesterday I found a used CD of Andy Partridge and
Harold Budd and I can't remember the name of it and I can't look it up
'cause it's in my car but I'm sure it's the only one and I hear it's some
sort of ambient album and is it any good 'cause I paid over $20 for it and
does anyone want to trade for it if I don't like it and what's a good price
for Fossil Fuel 'cause they had that too and I gotta run talk to you later.

John

*********************************************
"The world is not my home, I'm just a-passin' through."
Tom Waits

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:17:57 -0400
From: erik schlichting <eriks@ci.conover.nc.us>
Subject: Eyes, Doors, and a reminder
Message-ID: <397C4205.607A4823@ci.conover.nc.us>

Chalkers,

Smudgeboy wrote of finding the original (he thought) '50's
version of "I only Have Eyes for You."

Dig a little deeper, you'll find the song was written in
1934, thus, it's not the original. It's been covered by the
likes of Al Jolson, Billie Holiday, Louis Armstrong, and, of
course, Frank Sinatra, just to name a few. Not that I've
heard all of these versions, but if you really like the
song, it might be worth your while to check some of these
out. Look on cdnow.com or allmusic.com for info on Harry
Warren; you'll see a lot of other songs you know.

The Doors were taking potshots:

For about a year in my younger days, the Doors were the best
band in the world (even though Morrison was already years in
the ground). Each album purchase was a revelation, a delight
that got played over & over for weeks. Hearing the
no-airplay cuts for the fisrt time was like discovering
gold. Songs like Moonlight Drive, Spanish Caravan, Wild
Child (ever seen the video?), the Spy, Queen of the Highway,
and the WASP expanded my musical horizons. The Doors got me
into Them, and John Lee Hooker, and made me look more
closely to discover the blues background that other bands
like Led Zeppelin, even the Beatles, were riding. As a
snot-nosed 13-year old, I had no idea these great bands were
borrowing from somewhere else, but it was the Doors that got
me started looking at the roots of rock & roll. I don't
listen to the Doors very much lately, but once in a while I
get a hankerin' to spin Morrison Hotel, or the Soft Parade,
or L.A Woman....

(Shout):

"You CANNOT petition the Lord with prayer!"

Just a reminder:

Let me know where you are so I can put you on the map! Good
response so far, but we need more. There are some places
that are being obviously under-represented- for example,
only one response for all of Great Britain. Come on folks,
what do you think this is, an American election? Get your
coordinates at one of these sites:

http://www.astro.com/atlas/aq_e.htm   (this ones the best)
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001769.html
http://www.bcca.org/misc/qiblih/latlong.html

Send your location to: eschlichting@xtremeol.com

mailto:eschlichting@xtremeol.com

Erik

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:33:51 +0100
From: Warren Butson <Warren.Butson@getty-images.com>
Subject: XTC cover
Message-ID: <917A9E311021D411ABDF00508B605A470F1D4E@LONEXCHG01>

I was in Weymouth, Dorset at the weekend for a little seaside break and
they had a band on the beach playing some great 60' psychedelic
covers. Imagine my shock when they launched into a blistering performance
of Your Gold Dress! by the Dukes. I'd love to know if they knew it was a
fake 60's song or thought it was the genuine thing, whatever it got me
thinking that Andy always says what's the point in playing live anymore,
the truth is I'd love to hear how they would interpret the older stuff
today, that to me is one very good reason and ofcourse hear songs they have
never performed live before.

I would also like to comment on the fact that it seems very hard to find a
band on this list that has no merit whatsoever. ELP Chicago, Roy Wood, Todd
Rundgren, etc there is always one person here to defend them. All these
artists have bee around for many years which usually means they have
something that interests the public just enough to keep them going.I think
also we should be careful of being hypocritical about what we say is
shit. I for one don't remember hearing anyone slag off "If you leave me
now" by Chicago when it came out in 76 or whenever it was. I don't know how
old you lot are but I would have been 10 to me it was just a nice tune for
Christ sake. it's only when you grow up you become so subjective about what
is good and what is shit and we find peter cetera is synonymous with MOR
sugary lightweight music, when in fact it is totally harmless fluff that
should not bother anyone except for the fans of the first generation
Chicago. However, I must agree with whoever mentioned that swath of
lipstick metal bands of the 80's I hated them then and Can't even remember
anything they did now, surely there can't be anyone to defend that genre,
or can there?

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:16:50 -0600
From: KirK.Gill@equifax.com
Subject: Please Slag Something Slaggable
Message-ID: <85256926.00593402.00@noteswetc15.fin.equifax.com>

One of the dangers of getting older is you broaden your focus, you start to
see all the things that you ignored earlier in your life when you "knew it
all." The inevitable result is the dilution of enthusiasms, the
introduction of all that previously done "stuff" into your world view. It's
worse for musical groups, who use that youthfully narrow perspective to
generate truly original music which then gets watered down by age and
experience. Add to that the fact that you're talking about several people
all learning and growing in different directions at the same time, and it's
inevitable that the music starts to sound like it's being done by
committee. Sometimes it works, like with XTC, who have, I think, aged
gracefully. As did, contrary to numerous Chalkiller postings, The Beatles.

Slagging on Abbey Road is asinine. Come Together? Something? Here Comes the
Sun?  Are you insane? Someone said something like "If they'd made another
album, I'm darn near sure their stature would be diminished in my eyes."
Please. All the sh**ty records in the world, including virtually all of
their post-Beatle output shouldn't be able to do that. In fact, can someone
describe to me why one record should have any effect on whether or not you
like another record? Is there some reason why Sting's laughable current
output should somehow make me like The Police any less?

Can someone explain this to me?

k

A

"I'm Bugged"

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:39:16 -0500
From: "Richard" <rjpa1@home.com>
Subject: Get a towel! (no XTC content)
Message-ID: <001801bff58d$b5612660$15ec1718@mckiny1.tx.home.com>

The name "10cc" comes from the statistical data that the average amount of
semen in a human ejaculation is 9cc.  The band wryly assumed that they were
better than everyone else and called themselves "10cc."

To take it one step further, their "Best of" release was entitled "100cc."

Cheers,
Richard

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:15:03 +0100
From: "Smith, David" <David.Smith@tfeurope.com>
Subject: George . . . you naughty, naughty boy . . .
Message-ID: <4BBE67B71C1DD411A23600508B65F71E686059@tfsecmsg04.tfseur.co.uk>

Urban myth alert . . .

On the thread of the Beatles/Jeff Lynne biz, Dan said;

	The story I heard was rather more touchy. I remember a quote
	from George Martin to the effect of "They didn't ask me, and
	if they had, I wouldn't have done it." Meaning he didn't think
	the new tracks were such a hot idea.  I suspect Jeff Lynne was
	brought in for the same reason XTC uses producers: diplomacy.

OK, here's what I heard - from a mate in the second hand/collectors
record biz (yeah, I know, we've all got a mate in the biz . . .) who I
would trust with the life of at least two of my fish to get a
semblance of a correct story. Forgive me if you've heard it before, or
it's an old muzik biz myth, or (in particular) if YOU know better
. . . ahem, ahem . . .

Apparently, towards the end of the Beatles, George was getting more
and more hacked off at Paul and John over what he saw as them not
giving him enough credit and not letting him have more tracks on the
albums. The "hack" festered for years after the split . . . and then,
as we all know, he was stiffed by his accountant over Handmade Films.

So, Georgy was a bit brassic right around the time Macca said "oh,
what about milking the cash cow by releasing an anthology". Fair do's
said the others (well they would, wouldn't they?) and said anthology
project took off.  Macca then decided that a coupla new songs would be
kind of spiffing.  Let's get George Martin and the old crew in etc.

George - sensing an opportunity - went along with it . . . and along
with it . . . and, indeed, along with it, until the very last minute,
when he said to Paul (adopts Scouse accent) "sorry mate, I've changed
me mind, I'm not doing it".

A delightfully apoplectic Sir Paul went, well, apoplectic obviously.
He then uttered the fateful words "what would it take for you to do
it" at which point George said "I'll only do it if you get my mate
Jeff Lynne in to do the production".

Cue further blue fits of rage from the Macca camp - especially with
the realisation that he had been backed into a corner. Cue smug grins
around Chez Harrison.  And cue The Beatles sounding like ELO, rather
than ELO sounding like the Beatles.

Funny old world innit?

Smudgeboy
E-Mail: david.smith@tfeurope.com

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:43:55 +0000
From: Jayne Myrone <myrone@tesco.net>
Subject: is this an 80s revival or is it just me?
Message-ID: <397C8E60.57924670@tesco.net>

Dunks wrote

And who'd have thought King Trigger would pop up in the discussion.
Geez,
what next? Rip Rig & Panic?

Don't get me startedV
What about Kissing the Pink or
Jimmy the Hoover
All together:
"woa woa wee yeah yeah"

Jayne the Worrier Queen

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button money is given to the UN's World Food Programme.
http://www.thehungersite.com/index.html

"Nothing is meaningless if one likes to do it"
Gertrude Stein

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:26:21 -0500
From: Jill Oleson <Jill_Oleson@kurion.com>
Subject: Welcoming Pagan Alyssa with a Story
Message-ID: <81CC73FC2FACD311A2D200508B8B88AA1C8FCF@KURION_EXCH>

Greetings Chalkers,

As a way of welcoming our new pagan friend Alyssa, who introduced
herself in digest #6-175, I'd like to share with you this story:

Several weeks ago, I planned on meeting a few friends for
lunch at an Italian restaurant near my office.  Either I arrived
early or they arrived late because I found myself waiting on
a bench near the front door for quite a long time.

As I sat there, alone, waiting, I got a chance to do a little
people watching.  I find people so interesting...  what they say,
what they think, how they dress, how they interact with each
other...  So as I am sitting there looking around, a guy walks in,
and not finding the person he's supposed to meet for lunch,
takes a seat on the bench just opposite of me.

We exchange innocuous glances and I continue to look around.
But he keeps staring.  He's staring at me!  I look back casually
wondering what about me could have caught his attention.  Then
I remember... on my forest green shirt, I am wearing a silver pin
of the Uffington Horse, just like the horse on the cover of XTC's
English Settlement album.  He is clearly staring at the pin.

Oh, I think, he must be another Chalker and he's waiting to get
up his nerve to ask me about it.  How fun it will be to meet
another Chalker... I've met so many already!

"I like your pin," he says.  "Where did you get it?"

"It was a gift," I reply.  "It's the Uffington Horse, you know."

"What's that?"

"Well, it's a horse that has been carved into the chalk hills
somewhere near Swindon, England." (hint, hint, buddy!)

"Is it pagan?"

"I don't think anyone really knows for sure," I answer.  "But given
the time period in which it was created, yes, it quite likely is pagan."

"Are you into paganism?"

(Okay, well, this conversation isn't going where I thought it would go...)

"I like a band called, XTC, and they use this image on one of
their albums, so I wear this pin.  One of the members of the band,
Andy Partridge, seems to be into paganism in some of his lyrics and
on some of the album covers."

"I knew it!" he exclaimed.  "You *are* a pagan, aren't you?"

"What makes you think that I am pagan?"

"I can always spot a pagan in a crowd."

"Really?  How is that?"

He grabs a leather strap from around his neck and pulls a small
medallion from under his t-shirt.  It's a black metal pentacle within
a circle.

He says, with his eyes shining hopefully, "Because I'm a pagan too!"

This, dear Chalkers, was the most unusual pick-up line this girl
has ever heard.  Now that you know about it, use it carefully and in
good health.  And remember, do what you will, but harm none.

Sincerely,

Jill Oleson
Austin, Texas

(No, it didn't work.)

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:28:15 +0100
From: "Smith, David" <David.Smith@tfeurope.com>
Subject: It's a Monster!
Message-ID: <4BBE67B71C1DD411A23600508B65F71E68605A@tfsecmsg04.tfseur.co.uk>

Still here, haven't gone, more rambling responses to 6-202 . . .

Steve Pitts' monster posting had some veeeeeery good points.
Witness:

	Thankfully not. Given that I was born in 1960, I guess that
	the 70s encapsulates my youth, and I have very little fondness
	for anything prior to 'punk'. This applies especially to the
	glam stuff, but there was a whole bunch of other dreadful
	stuff populating the charts at the time (anyone remember David
	Dundas, for example??)

I assume you know you're speaking about a "Real life Lord of the
Manor"? In his blue jeans 'n all - with a tiger in his tank, no
less. Did any sone ever make you less inclined to ride a motorbike
than that one?

	In the days when I used to buy/listen to singles (started in
	about 1977 and gave up on them roughly five years later) I
	would always listen to both sides. The Jam were especially
	good at hiding gems on B-sides, with Butterfly Collector my
	favourite, and one of my fave Jam tracks of all time

Steve, looks like we're gonna be trading b-sides for days mate. I'll
take Liza Radley (b-side of Start) for my Jam gem. In return I'll give
you "Down In The Park (Instr)" - the b-side of "I Die You Die" by Gary
Numan.

"If that Gary Numan comes in 'ere givin it the old 'I fink I'll try a
bit o' classical' I'll tell 'im . . .OOOYYYY, Numan,
Noooooooooooooooooooo!"

Oh and Dom - Transistor Blast? You little cheater! And you sure you
weren't servicing badgers and . . . oh, never mind.

More doo-wop classics - The Way You Look Tonight, by the Jaguars. Sigh.

Smudgeboy
E-Mail: david.smith@tfeurope.com

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:55:46 -0700
From: "Hiatt, Randy" <Randy.Hiatt@fsbti.com>
Subject: Kosher Lamb
Message-ID: <F34536084B78D311AF53009027B0D7EAE3DA64@FSBEX01>

>From: Ryan Anthony Gotta question for you people. I've run across
enoughreferences to Kevin Gilbert to become curious. At hiseponymic
website, three albums are available: *KevinGilbert & Thud Live*,
*Giraffe*, and *The Shaming ofthe True*. Which would you recommend to
start?<

The Shaming is a mini Lamb, only about the "music industry".  Satisfying
performances and production w/muscle. Then Thud Live....  Other releases
are planned from his estate.>I don't know if I really read this here, or
whetherI'd done too many Diet Mountain Dews that day, but didGilbert and
his band really rip through most or all of*The Lamb Lies Down on
Broadway*,<

Ooooh Yaaaaa (less only a few tunes/jams), It has moments that beat the
orig live Genesis version.  Done at Progfest 94 (20 year anniversary of
the Lamb).  There is a CD and once was on a video (I have yet to see).
for an encore they did Musical Box.

Randy (on my knees butt dancing) Hiatt

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:57:44 -0500
From: chris vreeland <vreecave@realtime.com>
Subject: dropped back by for five more
Message-ID: <397CAD88.518CF759@realtime.com>

Just a quick note....
    I've been off to the Fantastic Planet of Love since last week, but
finally convinced the aliens (all huge Marshall Crenshaw fans, by the
way) that we needed to zip back in for five more. Actually any excuse
they can find to "do up" a little spice, and "fold some major space" is
alright by them. It's only three days from the Dog Star these days, and
hell, half of that I spent on standby at the spaceport... anyway, I'll
be relieving you-all of these:

1. Mozart's Requiem, Neville Marriner and the Academy of St. Martin of
the Fields
2. Kiko,  Los Lobos
3. The Soft Bulletin,  The Flaming Lips
4. Babylon by Bus,  Bob Marley
5. Blue Sky Mining,  Midnight Oil

That aughta keep me for a while.

    I took along a couple magazines for the trip, and found some
pertinent articles.
Harper's saw fit to reproduce Pat Metheny's entire Kenny G. diatribe in
the Readings section of their most recent issue. Glad to see Mr. Lame
Ass Psuedo-Bluesy Noodling get his comeuppance in such a prominent way.
Anybody privy to any reactions from Mr.G?
    Along side it was a pretty good David Eggers short on the concept of
"selling out." For those of you debating bands who were once good, but
now suck, this article is instructive. He has nothing but good things to
say therein about the Flaming Lips, a band held up as the epitome of NOT
selling out. Perhaps it's on the Harper's website, although I don't
know, but it's worth checking out.
    Lastly, The Nation takes an interesting editorial stance about
Napster. The writer didn't seem to find anything wrong with the whole
idea, and seemed to think that the industry just needed to adjust. He
was coming from the "you can't stop the technology" stance, and while
that's a good point, I just can't get off the fence. (Napster as a
populist movement?) I at least thought the article stated it's case
somewhat intelligently, although a tad dismissively.

    To get off the good bands gone bad thread, why not try this one?
What bands started out sucking, but then got good later in their
careers? Or on a tangent, what bands did you hate at first then later
learn to like in the end?
    For example, The Beach Boys started out sucking, but got really,
really good.
Two people I really hated, but later had to admit greatly improved after
making a few albums: John Mellencamp (alright, his career is kind of a
bell curve) and Melissa Etheridge. Your Little Secret RAWKS!

That should keep y'all talking till I'm safely out of the atmosphere,
Chris "whose musical career would resemble a flatline on a cardiac
machine" Vreeland

XTC content? Austin radio has completely ignored Wasp Star. Oh, well,
I've completely ignored Austin radio, except for our new and improved
pirate station, which played Dear God last friday, and is playing Dirty
Deeds Done Dirt Cheap right now. Buncha damn communists!

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:48:38 -0400
From: "Stephanie Takeshita" <edsxt@huber.com>
Subject: a gentle jibe; extra-planetary picks
Message-ID: <s97c7373.072@gwia.huber.com>

Hi, my fellow musical Flemings,

In Digest 6-198, Randy had written,

>...Crimson meets Gentile Giant...>

What is that, a goyisch Golem?    8 >
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My "Close Encounters" Top 5 list [in no order]:  Abbey Road, English
Settlement, King Crimson Live in Argentina (two-disc compilations
O.K.? 2 if not, then Thrak or Discipline); Repercussion [by The
dBs], and John Barry's soundtrack to OHMSS [that's "On Her Majesty's
Secret Service" to the non-Bond-freaks].  Although for the sake of
interstellar goodwill, you might want to include some Man or
Astro-Man? or Spacemen 3 in there somewhere....

Other great choices:  The Damned's "The Light at the End of the
Tunnel" compilation [esp. Disc One]; The Golden Palominos [pick just
about anything of theirs; I'd go with "Blast of Silence" for Bernie
Worrell's coolly understated solo on "Strong, Simple Silences"]; any
early Talking Heads [I'd take '77 or "Fear..."];  Blur's "Parklife,"
Firehose [but I'd be at a loss to chose one], My Drug Hell's "My Drug
Hell," and maybe REM's "Automatic for the People".

That's.... seven more.  Acch-ptooey!  I hate drawing up these sorts of
lists!  What am I, the Rob Fleming character from "High Fidelity"?
Which reminds me, I left out Roky Erickson/The 13th Floor Elevators
and The Beta Band (their compiled "Three EPs" is good)....

And for those still searching for something good, add my voice to
those who've endorsed The Eels [all three LPs], Gomez [esp. "Bring It
On"]; The Flaming Lips' "The Soft Bulletin," Madder Rose [esp. "Tragic
Magic"]; and, going way-y-y back, Love's box set "Love Story," and The
Modern Lovers' eponymous LP.

And when I feel like it, Richard Hell & the Voidoids [anyone else
addicted to Robert Quine's guitar riffs?], The Contortions, and The
Birthday Party.  And playing these over and over just might persuade
the aliens to release you from their slimy, tentacled, purple
clutches....

Killing 'em softly with my song,
Stephanie Takeshita

A couple of queries of my own:  anyone here familiar with The Minus 5,
and esp. their latest, with Peter Buck?  Is it as good as the critics
say it is? [or, to coin yet another awkward 'Net acronym, IIAGATCSII?]
And can anyone establish what exactly makes the "Ravenous" original
score (by Michael Nyman, with Damon Albarn of Blur) so eerie-sounding?
Is it, as one 'net poster claimed, in 13/8, grouped in 6's and 7's?
Or is it that damned banjo/squeezebox instrumentation?  Or, not to
overlook the obvious, is it simply that the flick is all about
CANNIBALISM?  Write me privately...

Stephanie Takeshita

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