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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 203

                   Monday, 24 July 2000


                Statute of Liberty/ITMWML
          poop, poop, poop music(talk about it)
                   the musical lottery
                   seattle xtc sessions
         looking down the barrel of an alien gun
               Tiger, Tiger Burning Bright
               Prog rock, rap and sampling
               garland of earthly delights
                re: stuff still pours out.
                    Re: New XTC album!
                     Magnetic Fields
                        band name
                    Shaggs, hair metal
                   Frankie is my friend
                      xTc In Omaha?
                  Todd vs. Todd vs. Todd
                    Re: Captain Cutup
               Re: Pinstripe Paternity Suit


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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:47:07 -0500
From: Mark <>
Subject: Statute of Liberty/ITMWML
Message-ID: <>

By Jove, I think I hear it.........

I really don't believe in aliens in the terms of flying saucers and such
and if I did, I would imagine them to use some sort of molecular jaunt
instead of a saucer.  I do believe that is possible for "alien" life
forms may exist in makeup different from our big blue marble.  So, if
some strange gaseous amoeba-life form, that can only survive on some
elemental structure different than that of the earth, would somehow
jaunt themselves to my house on a hill in omaha....well, first thing I
would try to catch them and stick 'em in a old pickle jar (holes punched
in the lid, of course)...but, if I lost the struggle of who gets who,
and these compassionate aliens let me pick out five of my favorite cd's
before they melt my molecules to move to mars then I would select the

1 ~ XTC - Big Express
2 ~ XTC - Wasp Star
3 ~ Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True
4 ~ Elvis Costello - All This Useless Beauty
5 ~ Mahavishnu Orchestra - Inner Mounting Flame
6 ~ Juluka - African Litany
7 ~ Chemical Brothers - Brother's Gonna Work It Out (mix)
8 ~ Beatles - Abbey Road
9 ~ Cat Stevens - Tea For the Tillerman
10 ~ Bob Marley & the Wailers - Natty Dread

Note:  I would "trick" the "aliens" that there were two parts to every
whole.  My trickery would be so elementary that they would not know
better and let me take ten.  Pretty clever, eh?  Perhaps I will write a
book on my space travels....hit the talkshow circuit....yeah baby
yeah......but wait.....damn!!  They didn't let me take a bloody cd
player!!!!!!!   oh well.  nevermind

Mark in a house on a hill in omaha


Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:05:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: brown <>
Subject: poop, poop, poop music(talk about it)
Message-ID: <>


All this jawin' about the worst song of the 70's has conjured up some lyrics
from, what may be THE most wretched of all pop smears from that decade..  it
goes something like this-
"my name is Michael(?), when we get married, we're going to have a baby or
two.. we're going to let them visit their grandma, that's what we're going
to do.."  it may be a girl's name in place of Michael, but Michael is in
some of the verses..

Either way, what is the name of this evil song, and why, oh why is it inside
my head?

Please just kill me now-

the tortured Debora Brown

-Julia, the tape is in z mail-


Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:16:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: brown <>
Subject: the musical lottery
Message-ID: <>

>From the desk of the Colonel-
<< And if you're stoned, it'd be the Dukes of
Stratosphear EP.>>

ouch!.. imagine being pummeled just for listening to the Dukes..




Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:33:05 PDT
From: "Amy Denham" <>
Subject: seattle xtc sessions
Message-ID: <>

Hi all, newbie to the post, here!

<"I'm assuming that any xtc sessions in seattle will be at the end radio

In response to nappy-headed Joseph, you might also try our friends at
103.7FM The Mountain, they have "I'm the Man Who Murdered Love" in fairly
heavy rotation at the moment.  They do a lot of in-studio sessions which
they later release on their "On The Mountain" compilation cd's around
Christmastime each year.  Keep me posted on what you find out!

Another Great-Northwestern XTC (and Stevie!) fan,


(...Amy wants to be a superwoman, but is that really in her head?)


Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 23:37:56 EDT
Subject: looking down the barrel of an alien gun
Message-ID: <>

  The ice cream made me do it. I tried to stay away, but the ice cream talked
to me in a wee voice saying " psst..Hey you, yeah, you.   It's me the ice
cream.     In the bowl!    Under your chin?   Post.    Go ahead, it won't
   The bowl and spoon made it to the end. Sadly the ice cream did not.

  To Jayne the Worrier Queen: Although you and countless others are awaiting
the break-up of R.E.M. it might not happen at the turn of the century. The
whole story was concocted by one of the band members during an interview.
Contrary to popular belief they never had any intentions of breaking up when
the clock struck midnight on New Years Eve. News of this suppossed event was
talked about in the biography of R. E. M. "It Crawled From The South". I
highly recommend reading it if you are a fan of the band.
    As for Woodface being a bloody fine album? ( I assume you refer to
Crowded House since you didn't mention them)... I agree wholeheartedly!
     Earlier this week I managed to find the box set "Transistor Blast" from
Swindons' finest. Wow... I can't stop heaping mounds of praise on XTC.
     Into the fray-   Guess the title and/or artist:
   "Surprise me with some honesty,
    surprise me with some independence...
   Outside there is darkness, outside is the lie, outside stands between us"
      Well, well, well, look who finally came out to play.



Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 23:39:31 EDT
Subject: Tiger, Tiger Burning Bright
Message-ID: <>

> XTC content: I still can't figure out why "Blame the Weather" didn't make
>  the "English Settlement" album.

I agree--I've also had a fondness for Tissue Tigers and Heaven is Paved with
Broken Glass. Both would have been fine additions to the album (although the
former could have used a bit more polish).   I feel the same way about Didn't
Hurt a Bit or Down A Peg--both fine songs that would have done justice to any
Xtc album.

 Blazing noted: Recording Wasp Star was such a delight for Andy.
I spoke to him briefly during the recording and he was
so freaking happy I couldn't believe it.

It's obvious how happy Andy was during the sessions. It's one of the most
joyful albums he and Colin have been out. It has quicly become a fav. I
personally think that the production compliments the songs. Wasp Star has a
perfect pop sheen. It's almost like a stand in for the bubblegum album in
some respects.


Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:05:53 -0700
From: Jim Allen <>
Subject: Prog rock, rap and sampling
Message-ID: <>


Joe "Got the" Funk opened himself to ridicule by writing:
>I was partial to the Progressive movement of the early '70s, i.e:
>King Crimson, Genesis, ELP, Yes, Gentle Giant, et al.....

Here! Here!  The Big 5.  From 1970-1974/5 all of these bands were
incredible, both on albums and especially live.  After that...........

>Needless to say, towards the end of the decade, this was no longer
>the case.  The movement had become so self- involved and
>pretentious, that many people (including myself) revolted, and
>the Punk Revolution began.

Well, all the Big 5 went downhill after early 1975, but I think it was the
natural evolution of things.  After all, "Brain Salad Surgery", "The Lamb
Lies Down on Broadway", "Relayer", "Red" and "Free Hand" were pretty tough
acts to follow.  So it was either hibernation (ELP) or the Top 40
eventually (Genesis).

I know in the UK punk was very much an anti-prog thing, but here in Los
Angeles at least, the first punk bands like X, The Germs, Black Flag were
rebelling equally against The Eagles (ghastly), Fleetwood Mac, Boston etc.
the "corporate rock" thing.  I was all for it--I love the first 3 X
records, for example.

Joe Easter asked:
>Now, I've got a question. Is it wrong of me to listen to XtC about 86.7
>percent of the time? [snip] Am I limiting myself or am I simply existing
>within a perfection where I am content to exist within and without?

IMHO, yes, you are limiting yourself.  I sometimes despair when I go in to
a really well stocked record store because there is SO much great music out
there that I'll never hear because of lack of money and lack of opportunity
to hear it.

Much as I still love the Big 5 prog bands, and as much as I still play
them, I'm on a never ending search for new stuff.  For example, in the last
three years I've really gotten into the ambient/techno/trance thing via
Future Sound of London, Orbital, The Orb, Autechre, The Chemical Brothers,
Massive Attack, Leftfield, John Digweed etc.  That's one of the great
things about this list (and other's I'm on), people using capital letters
to proselytize for a band/record.

Jeff resorted to a slight bit of hyperbole:
>What do we learn from this?  I don't know, but the WORST thing of all is,
>each and every one of these songs is EONS better than "I Will Always Love
>You" by Shitney Dallas, the single worst song in the history of man.

Er, well, the song itself is actually quite good--have you heard Dolly
Parton's original version?  Very beautiful and sad.  I admit I like
Whitney's version too, solely because her voice really IS amazing.  The
arrangement, however,  of a simple, beautiful song reminds me of the Monty
Python sketch about two brothers, Doug and Roy Spim, who use tanks and
rocket launchers to kill flies and bugs.  A bit of overkill in both cases.
Plus, I'm surprised that Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" didn't show up
on Andy's episode of The List.

Joe Funk nearly burst a vein  :-)  :-)
>Rap!!  Rap!!  To quote a friend of mine: "It (Rap) creates no new
>music, just recycles old"

Yawn.  What a boring, lazy thing to say.  I like some rap a lot.  Snoop
Dogg's "Doggystyle" and Dr. Dre's "The Chronic" are great records IMHO, for
example.   I think most anti-rap people latch on to obvious examples like
the appalling Vanilla Ice "Ice Ice Baby/Under Pressure" or MC Hammer's "You
Can't Touch This/Super Freak" and say "That's the way it is!".  Of course,
now we have the execrable Puff Daddy doing the same thing.  So what! They
are buffoons---if someone takes the drum pattern from a totally obscure
70's funk record that only 9 people knew of in the first place, samples it
and then layers a new bass line, chords, melody etc. on top of it, so what?

Besides, is that any different from a guitarist finding a riff, changing
two notes and the rhythm slightly and voila! new riff?  Not to me it
isn't.   Chris Squire totally ripped off a riff in "Schizoid Man" to come
up with the opening riff to "Heart of The Sunrise" for example.

Or what about "I'd Like That"?  As far as I'm concerned, Andy sampled Paul
McCartney on that one or at least channeled him, ala Shirley Mclaine.  It's
an easy thing to do---"Hmmmm, I wanna write a song like Andy.  Let's see,
some arpeggio's, a few diminished chords here and there, a syncopated
rhythm, key change to middle 8 etc."  No different to me.  People have been
stealing like professional safe crackers in rock music for 45 years, why
the outcry about rap?

And where did Andy get those sounds for "River of Orchids" anyways?  Did he
sample them off one of his old records? Buy them on a sample disc?  Unless
he sat and recorded a string section and a bassoon playing those exact
riffs,  he is no different from a rap producer in that regard, taking
pre-existing sounds, melodies and rhythms and coming up with something
new.  Does anyone know where he got those sounds from?

>Samples of other rapper sample based songs? "   Pretty soon, the
>need for musicians in Pop music will no longer be necessary........

The days of 4 great friends buying guitars, writing songs/practicing and
then going in to a big expensive studio to lay down tracks is fading
fast.  I have an Akai sampler, a keyboard and some music software that I
use to create my own ambient/techno stuff.  In the old days (pre-digital),
it would have taken me days to get some of the sounds that I can now get at
the click of a mouse.  I don't miss the days of 2 bad notes in a solo
ruining a whole take, tape editing, spending 6 hours trying to get a good
snare drum sound etc. AT ALL.  If sampling John Bonham's snare drum sound
on "The Wanton Song" allows me to construct a new beat, then it's valid for
me. And if it takes me 5 minutes as opposed to 6 hours, all the better.

>Why use musicians when you can slap together a conglomeration of
>samples that's only use is for the backdrop of some video featuring
>half-naked ladies and some egotistical idiot screaming about
>shooting some fuckin' cops!!

Hey! "F*** tha Police" by NWA is a great record!  If you get your exposure
to rap via MTV and it's clones, then you're not really getting the whole
picture. There's a lot of cool, innovative stuff going on, but like most
good music, it's not in the mainstream.

>......the state of affairs of Pop Music today.....   is FUCKIN'

No it's not.  I just laugh when people get so apoplectic about music these
days.    As the discussion of cheesy pop here recently has proven, the
mainstream sucks, always has and always will, so why the near-hysteria
about the whole BritneyChristinaBackstreetNSyncBoys thing, bland stuff like
Matchbox 20 or rap-metal like Limp Bizkit?

People get all misty eyed about how great AM/Top 40 radio was in 1967 just
because they played "Penny Lane" and the latest Stones song.  Nostalgia has
the nasty habit of filtering out the crap that completes the picture.  For
every "Strawberry Fields" there was 10 things like "Please Release Me" by
Englebert Humperdink. Yes, all you closet Englebert fans can now pop up
with "But that's a great song!" :-) :-)

There's a lot of great music out there today.  It's just that it's often
far outside the mainstream but there's a ton of cool indie labels and
GASP!!! a good portion of it doesn't have 2 guitars, vocals, bass and drums
as its basis.  One just has to work a little harder to find the
good/offbeat stuff.  Frankly, after 34 years of listening to guitar based
music, I'm a little bored of it and would rather search out new sounds and
ways of doing things.  It's the prog way.


NP: Autechre-Amber


Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 01:36:16 EDT
Subject: garland of earthly delights
Message-ID: <>

>'Fess up; you're Vee Tube's love-child, ain't'cha?


judy judy judy  dorothy
kansas, not oz
VTube fish for maypole syrup
moi? capped in bean


the capt

wasp star
pop up playground
boarded up going down
going on going on
were all light


Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 03:55:46 EDT
Subject: re: stuff still pours out.
Message-ID: <>

>From S. Harrison

>As one who has also mostly outgrown the juvenile impulse to have others
>perceive me as encyclopedically knowledgable about every witless and
>clangorous flavor-of-the-month being fobbed off on us by the Forces of
>Malignity, I deem it a self-confident, centered, and above all adult thing
>to say, and I applaud him for it.

>I'm pretty sure he didn't mean he'd stopped listening to *all* music; he
>just doesn't feel the need to be obsessively up-to-date--he long ago
>(like, 1980) stopped playing that particular game and has since pursued
>his own muse, which leads him (we know from other interviews) into
>Twenties jazz and Renaissance music, to name just two recent examples.

There is a whole world of difference between being obsessively up to date
with every conceivable artist (which i quite aggree is inherently laughable)
to  being open to new, exciting and fresh music.
Still he is listening to Twenties Jazz and Renaissance music. How awfully
clever of him.


Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 02:14:24 -0700
From: Jonathan <>
Subject: Re: New XTC album!
Message-ID: <>

on 7/20/00 1:50 PM, Damian Wise (Foulger) at wrote:

> Okay I got all you attention, but what I want to know is when the
> new album is due out?  We had whiffs of Wasp Star two years
> ago.  Does that fact that I've not heard any whiffs of the latest
> effort mean that we might have to wait and wait and wait?  What
> are XTC up to and when can we expect some new gems?
> If anyone has any idea please let on...
> Dames tWd
> P.s. Nick Drake is King (sod Elvis!)

What alternate world have you been living on?


Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 11:31:11 +0100
From: "David Seddon" <>
Subject: Magnetic Fields
Message-ID: <000401bff3c8$17055f20$5428073e@default>

I've read a lot recently in the press and music press about the album 69
Love Songs by Magnetic Fields (songs written by Stephin Merritt).  Everyone
seems to rave about it and say how well written the songs are.  I'm very
curious, but nobody that I know has even heard of him let alone bought the
album.  Has anyone on the list heard it or got it and if so, would they
recommend it or is it over-rated?  You can get it for about |14 on Jungle
but tho' that's good for a tri-loe alnbum, I don't know whether to risk
buyibg it blind.

Alternative Music for aliens:

Van Morrison and The Chieftains: this'd have 'em singing, jigging or else
they just ain't got no soul (and you never know with extra terrestrials).
Legend, Bob Marley: if these guys are spaced out then this is the one for
them.  Light them a spliff and watch the fun.
The Man Machine, Kraftwerk: they ought to appreciate Space-Lab and The
Man-Machine, and if they had any mechanical friends, then We Are The Robots
could get 'em stompin'.
Slim Whitman (I think it has him); well if you've seen Mars Attacks, and
they get nasty you can play this for them.  Ought to relax them.
Roky Erikson and The Aliens: if all of the above fail, then Roky is possibly
the only living human who they might view as one of their own.  Maybe he'd
make peace for us or maybe he'd fly off with them and teach them about the
electric jug.


Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:35:24 EDT
Subject: band name
Message-ID: <>

HIV and the Positives
 THATS a beauty.


Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:03:22 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Shaggs, hair metal
Message-ID: <l03130300b59f55129007@[]>

>And I can't wait to see Drew Barrymore play Dot Wiggin. I couldn't think of
>a better actress; she has the perfect sort of guileless charm. I hope she
>does all her own singing.

 If you've seen Woody Allen's Everyone Says I Love You Drew is the only
actor with a singing role whose voice is dubbed by someone elses. I'd say
it would be just perfect for her to do her own singing in a Dot Wiggin
role. Probably just as tuneless. I hope they do auditions in Vermont, I'd
love it if my wife got the role of Helen, she looked a lot like her as a
teenager, amiable, awkward, tall and overweight, and has about as much
sense of rhythm. If you listen to their second album Shaggs Own Thing,
though, which is compiled from stray live and studio tracks recorded when
they were a year or two older and augmented by cousin Betty on bass, their
playing had actually improved to borderline talent show quality, enough to
win them polite applause. They're still earnest and endearing though, even
the covers of the cheesy top 40 pop they do on the album are rather
sweet.(The Carpenters "Yesterday Once More," Marie Osmond's "Paper Roses,"
Tom T Hall's "I Love," a fast and noisy take on The Pipkins "Gimme Dat
Ding" that suggests a direct link between them and Shonen Knife)
>Forget Chicago. Forget ELP. The worst period/genre of rock n' roll is the
>hair-metal bands of the early eighties, and the worst of them was ... well,
>it's pretty near impossible to pick a single band. Let's put them together
>into an honorary supergroup: Extreme Motley Poison Bon Twisted Winger
>Warrant Ratt Riot Sister. I hope they're all playing proms.

  No, just playing smaller halls and bars to serious hair metal fans who
grew up with it, consisting of women with three or four kids each, all with
different last names, and their current boyfriends. I managed a club in the
early 90's which booked a lot of cover bands playing that material just as
it was on its way out and grunge was on its way in. I hated the music, but
was catering to the  conservative tastes of the townies in the college town
I lived in. It was rather sad seeing these people watching the music they
grew up on gradually going out of style, it was rather like the teds in
Quadrophenia, only with poofy hair. Most of the biggest badasses drank Jack
Daniels and seemed to listen to only Ozzy Osbourne, Metallica and Guns And
Roses, all of who at least were truly dangerous and I enjoy reading about,
even though I find their music a bit much.

Christopher R. Coolidge

"A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has 10
GREAT laws.  A Good law protects me from you.  Laws against murder, theft,
assault and the like are good laws.  A Poor law attempts to protect me
from myself."  - Unknown


Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:12:52 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Frankie is my friend
Message-ID: <l03130301b59f5b8914d6@[]>

>I've noticed that people are very anti-Frank Sinatra on this list. He's not
>all that bad. You shouldn't base your view of him solely on My Way which is
>probably Sinatra at his worst. You should check out his stuff from the 40's
>and 50's when he was at his peak.

  I second that, his voice when he was younger was a different kind of
voice than we rock and rollers are used to, more like a wind instrument
like a clarinet. He paid special attention to phrasing and intonation like
a clarinet player would. Check "It Was A Very Good Year," for example.

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at


Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 10:36:33 -0500
From: Mark <>
Subject: xTc In Omaha?
Message-ID: <>

Wouldn't it be nice if Andy and Colin came to Omaha?  Chances are mighty
slim, but perhaps a kickass listening party at a pub or club would
suffice.  Ok, I know there are a few of you chalkies that are from
Nebraska and closeby... Interested in having an xTc listening party at
some pub in Omaha?  Travis... You'd come down, wouldn't ya??  You could
probably bring a caravan of sorts... 1-1/2 - 2 hour drive?  And I
remember a few chalkies who live in Lincoln..  I think I am going to do
this anyway and promote it like a muthafugga in Omaha/Lincoln...
Anyone in the Nebraska/Iowa/Kansas area who might be interested in
attending or helping put it together, email me at

Mark in a house on a hill in omaha


Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 10:58:17 -0400
From: "Todd and Jennifer Bernhardt" <>
Subject: Todd vs. Todd vs. Todd
Message-ID: <>


From #199 (sorry to be so behind, but DAMN you people write a lot ...
remember the good old days, when we'd get an issue every couple of days,
and the posts would be filled with interesting information and discussion
about XTC?):

C C Baxter, aka Todd, said:
> I feel it neccesary to say something, anything to defend a wizard and a
true star.  Todd Rundgren should not be on any suck list.  Why?  Because
"Todd's" are so few and far between in the world of rock that they  should
be cherished and respected, or my name isn't Todd.  BTW, that's my name.
Todd. T-o-d-d. Todd. You may not find my reasoning very compelling, but
then I bet your name isn't Todd.<

Well, my compatriot in given names, it is indeed. Not only is my first
name Todd, but the reason it's Todd is because my mother's maiden name was
Todd ... and yes, we go back to same Ohio Todds that begat crazy Mary
Todd, aka Mrs. Abraham Lincoln. So not only am I a Todd, I'm a *Todd*.
Have I belabored my point sufficiently? However, I still ain't compelled.

IMO, Mr. Rundgren bats about .333. He's undoubtedly put out some wonderful
stuff; I have many of his albums; some live shows of his I've seen rank
among the best shows I've experienced; and he's more than proven his worth
as a player, performer and producer. But his output -- esp. his recent
output, as many have pointed out -- is uneven, and I often find it lacking
in depth (i.e., initially pleasing to listen to, but without the staying
power that one finds in truly *great* music, like XTC's). And Dear God,
will someone please tell him that his songs don't have to go on an extra
minute or two just so he can prove his vocal prowess by scatting over the
chorus/outro/whatever? I know it's part of the Philly tradition he came up
with, but *geez*...

That said, Skylarking is still one of the principal albums I use when
trying to convert the heathen masses to our common cause here on this
hallowed list.



Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:39:15 EDT
Subject: Re: Captain Cutup
Message-ID: <>

>Hey Cap ,

>Have you been cutting up the newspapers again ?


the capt


Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:00:53 -0500
From: "Jan C. Harris" <>
Subject: WS
Message-ID: <076201bff4ea$49e481a0$3ba6f5d0@janstrigem>

Overall, I haven't *quite* warmed to WS like I thought I would.
I find the guitar work to be repetitive with very little
variation in a song (ie, am I missing Dave Gregory?)

That said, I *am* stupidly happy about several of the tracks on
the album.  I expected to be overawed by Church of Women and
Wheel & Maypole, but instead I'm more deeply moved by Brown
Guitar, and Boarded Up.    The soulful wailing on Wounded Horse
is very intense, but almost in that blues comedic way - cry so
hard you have to laugh.

I had a dream in which a YesConcert was ending, and the PA came
on.  The announcer said, "here's The Beatles," and then played My
Brown Guitar.  In the dream, I was elated - but I wanted to
correct everyone:  Hey, this isn't the Beatles, this is XTC!!!!!!

(and Yes, the Yes concerts have been wonderful this year.  Sorry
to be gone and so far behind (70 digests in my Chalkhills inbox!)
And there are 3 concerts yet to go!)



Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:04:23 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Re: Pinstripe Paternity Suit
Message-ID: <l03130302b5a0aafb125d@[]>

>  Kramer's longtime girlfriend Carly Simon says he looks " fab " in it ,
>but has filed a paternity suit against him nonetheless .
>  Carly's brother-in-law Marshall Crenshaw , along with his new group The
>Juggernauts , was recently arrested at a clam chowder party along with
>smarmy pop star Todd Rundgren for building a barbecue pit in the middle of
>Central park and roasting a bull moose over it .
>>> Sushiman <<

  Huh? You mean James Taylor's ex, or is there another Carly Simon out
there? I guess I'll have to ask Marshall next time he's in town.(Missed him
a couple of months ago)I know it can't be THE Carly Simon, she's way past
menopause at this point. Besides, the one I know lives downstreet from my
uncle in Martha's Vineyard.

Christopher R. Coolidge

"A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has 10
GREAT laws.  A Good law protects me from you.  Laws against murder, theft,
assault and the like are good laws.  A Poor law attempts to protect me
from myself."  - Unknown


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