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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 202

                   Monday, 24 July 2000

Topics:

                       Dave Davies
              Re: DMX and radio programming
                   Desert Island Dicks
                        Threetles
                        Pomposity
                  This post is Rated "R"
                    First record owned
               Make mine the biggest pout??
              Wasted Days and Wasted Nights
                       ... But I Do
                      WPST memories
                     Beatles and such
         The funky chicken dance/a new thread(?)
                          DMX???
                Alien Abduction/X Files...

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:00:42 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net>
Subject: Dave Davies
Message-ID: <l03130302b59deab82637@[208.13.202.72]>

>Someone suggested the Kinks, but I'll just say Dave Davies. From "Death of a
>Clown" to "Rock n' Roll Cities" is a long, steep downhill ride (in a rickety
>shopping cart).
>I've already slagged Clapton and Rod Stewart too recently, but they're
>obvious choices.
>
>Shields up,
>Ed K.

  "Rock Roll Cities" is possibly the worst Kinks song ever written, but
Dave's written some great stuff since, such as "Perfect Stranger" from UK
Jive(a cassette only track and the album's highlight IMO)and the title
track from his career retrospective of last year, Unfinished Business. It
borrow's the "Dear Prudence" riff shamelessly, but why not steal from the
best? And most of all, "Fortis Green," only available on a recent limited
edition album of demos, would be the highlight of the album if The Kinks
released a new album this year, assuming Ray would allow it to be on the
album, it's just too good.

Christopher R. Coolidge

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:06:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com>
Subject: Re: DMX and radio programming
Message-ID: <200007211306.JAA11187@metheny.brainiac.com>

Joe Easter wrote:
> My Grievance with DMX.
>
> (Think Jerry Seinfeld) What is up with this format? I was listening to the
> "Classic" Rock station at work the other day (because the classical and jazz
> and alternative are lame ass shit and Swing can get tiring) and I shite you
> not, this was the way they played the music...
>
> Ozzy Osborne-Ironman
> Beatles-Penny Lane
> Neil Diamond-Kentucky Woman
> Queensryche-I Don't Believe in Love
>
> I've had my beef with DJ's who Suck before, but this is ridiculous. What do
> these songs have to do with one another? There is no sense of continuity. It
> is soulless.

Years ago I was working at one of the great college radio stations of the
60's/70's, WBRU in Providence.  It was actually a commercial radio station
with 20,000 watts run by students.  They were one of the great sources for
new music since the music was all chosen by the disk jockeys, who were
referred to as programmers.  There were various systems in place to ensure a
good mix of old and new music, some more complex than others, but it was
a *good* radio station.

Until 1982, when Lee Abrams was hired to make the station more professional
(read profitable).  I had the odd fortune to be the very first programmer
subjected to the new "format".  The format consisted of a box of about 350
index cards, broken into sections: A1, A2, B1, B2, B3, C1, C2, C3.  There
was a song on each card, and its designation indicated whether it was a
new song getting played a lot (A1) or a deep cut that only surfaced every
now and then (C3).  We were given a sheet with the designations listed
along the left side (A1,B2,C1,A2,C2,B1,A1,B3,C3,A2....) and we were
to simply pull the next card in the appropriate section and play that.

What about choice?  What about pulling up this great tune that I knew
of that would go *great* after this one?  Sorry, folks, no choice in the
matter.  It sucked.

Abrams was a highly respected radio consultant who thought it was great
fun to sit in with these college kids, smoke some of their grass, and
come up with a new, hip format for the youngsters.  I quit after two
shows.  There was no fun in it any more, but I'd had a glimpse into the
dark world of commercial radio.  Music chosen by focus groups made for a
sterile sound with no continuity, no sense of flow any more.  Who gives
a crap about that - the hits get played, and people listen, right?
Wrong.  The ratings dipped to their lowest point ever, but they kept the
format long after I stopped listening.

"They really focused good this time!"
   - The Firesign Theater

Now I'm back in radio again - on the Internet!  Eargazm is a collection
of people who used to work at WBRU and WRIU who get together and play the
music they want to hear (which includes a lot of XTC!).  Check us out at
http://www.eargazm.com/  I think the Internet will change music forever,
not only in the way it's published, but also how we listen to it.  We
listen to radio for a lot of reasons; to hear songs we know and like, to
hear songs we haven't heard in a long time, to hear new music we might not
have otherwise heard.  We try to fill all those functions.

======================================================================
       Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh@brainiac.com
     12 Emma G Lane, Narragansett, RI  02882 - vox 401.782.9042
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:27:07 +0100
From: Lawson Dominic <LawsonD@parliament.uk>
Subject: Desert Island Dicks
Message-ID: <4782AD6ADDBDD2119B570008C75DD5C1BD518B@mgmtm02.parliament.uk>

Ah, ten minutes spare in between raping badgers and servicing Mr
Blair....bliss!

Nothing major to contribute at the moment, but needless to say you're all
quite wrong and ugly with it.

5 Albums to take away somewhere...erm...or whatever...innit.

CARDIACS - Sing To God (Parts 1 & 2)
XTC - Transistor Blast
KYUSS - Blues For The Red Sun
MR BUNGLE - Disco Volante
TALK TALK - Laughing Stock

...and since it seems customary to pick another one (HE SAID FIVE YOU
****ING PLUMS!!!!)...

NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE - Arc Weld

And rest......

Dom.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:59:36 -0500
From: "Wiencek, Dan" <dwiencek@crateandbarrel.com>
Subject: Threetles
Message-ID: <B697DB46B423D411BE970050DA793DE03420F1@ESCORP1>

Chris C. said, in relation to George Martin's abstention from the new
Beatley songs:

>   The story I heard was George Martin was beginning to lose his hearing
> and told the remaining Beatles he wasn't competent to produce any new
> material, he couldn't trust his ears enough. He remixed the old material
> because he knew it so well. Jeff Lynne was an expedient second choice,
> presumably suggested by George and Ringo who'd worked with him in the
> Travelling Dingleberries.

The story I heard was rather more touchy. I remember a quote from George
Martin to the effect of "They didn't ask me, and if they had, I wouldn't
have done it." Meaning he didn't think the new tracks were such a hot idea.
I suspect Jeff Lynne was brought in for the same reason XTC uses producers:
diplomacy. Paul would've been more than capable of producing the stuff
himself, but who's going to mediate between him and George? (Speaking of,
has anyone else heard the rumor that George has enlisted Paul's help with
his new album? Kind of a make-amends-after-my-brush-with-death kinda thing?)

For myself, I don't think the new tracks are SO so bad. Free as a Bird has
what I might call conceptual difficulties--they tried to disguise a very
shitty-sounding demo by building up a lot of slick background parts around
it, and it only emphasizes how uber-shitty the demo sounds. I think it
would have been more successful (artistically) had they kept the
embellishments to a bare minimum, making something stark and plain, like
Boarded Up. That said, I must admit I get a little chill when, on the
finished version, George's slide guitar roars in and those voices come
together again ...  ain't that what it's all about?

And I will further admit that I really like Real Love. The dodgy-sounding
demo actually works for the song instead of against it, and the chrous is
lovely catchy Fabs. I would even include it on a Beatles mix tape, were I
to make one for somebody.

Happy to be talking Fabs,

Dan

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Date: 21 Jul 2000 10:27:00 +0100
From: "Robert Wood" <Robert.Wood@mutech.co.uk>
Subject: Pomposity
Message-ID: <00003255@mutech.co.uk>
Organization: Mutech Ltd

>> Firstly, did anyone read the wasp star review in Chalkhills where Andy is
quoted as saying that he doesnt listen to anyone else's music
anymore. Dont know if it is true but if it is then im afraid it's the most
arrogant, ignorant and pompous thing to say. What do you others think? <<

Didn't read it, but suspect it's got less to do with being pompous and more
to do with the fact that when music is a profession, you feel a lot less
like listening to it as a hobby. Overload kind of thing. I know lots of
musos who rarely or never listen to others' music. Me included.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:52:02 +0200
From: jeffrey.thomas.jt@bayer-ag.de
Subject: This post is Rated "R"
Message-ID: <0006800027931647000002L072*@MHS>

Howdy again, "Kreideberger",

In #196, Robert Wood (now I *really* hear Beavis' voice saying, "He
said...WOOD!") asked a self-answering question:

>Finally, 10cc - you know where the name cums from? <G>

I had thought that 943 people would already have answered this, but
seeing as they haven't, I:

a) must assume that this place is just TOO full of 20-somethings and
even (gulp) TEENS (the IGNORANCE of these people!  Sheesh!!), and

b) I feel myself forced to pick up the gauntlet, to educate those
20-somethings in the finer aspects of ART as it once was back then
when life was real.  Hell, when I was a kid, I had to walk 3 miles
through 7-foot deep snow every day to and from school, uphill in both
directions, and all of that without shoes, 'cause we were so damn poor
we had to EAT our shoes, and now these damn "List"-loving Britney
Spears/'N Sync-loving low-wattage-shining lightbulb types are driving
goddamn Ford Excursions to school!!

I'm not sure if the teens should continue reading this, as it is *of a
mature nature* -- it includes sexual references.  However, I will do
my best to make it oblique enough that the censors will let it pass:

I find the name of the American band "The Loving Spoonful" to be more
accurate, 10cc is an amount that could earn an Oscar in the porn
business.

Was that oblique enough?

- Jeff

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:58:48 +0200
From: "Clinton, Martin" <martin.clinton@dnb.no>
Subject: First record owned
Message-ID: <200007211059.DAA01932@sgi.com>

Smudgeboy was writing about the first record you OWNED, not bought. While
his was a Best of Paper Lace (Apart from Billy Don't be a hero, did they
have any other hits?), around the same time my Mum bought me for about 65p
in WH Smith's 'The Geoff Love Orchestra play Great War Movie Themes' (I
think I'd just watched the Dambusters for the first time or something!).
What a corker, with 633 Squadron, Dambusters March, and many other top
tunes. Its currently residing in the 'where is it now' file...possibly still
at my Mum & Dad's house! Mind you I was well chuffed with it, and maybe this
was one of those turning points! Were it not for my Mum getting me that (and
into listening to music), I wouldn't have the 500 odd CD's I have now....ITS
ALL HER FAULT!!!
Sorry, its Friday!
Martin

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:54:03 +0100
From: SPitts@thesaurus-computers.co.uk
Subject: Make mine the biggest pout??
Message-ID: <OFE95555E6.B4272861-ON80256922.003CAD50@thesaurus-computers.co.uk>

Chalkfolks,

So many digests, so little time. Perhaps this one will get there in time
for #6-200??

In #6-181 Wayne wrote, WRT bands like Kansas and Boston:

> (Any band named after a city, state or country must be pretty bad) <

Hmmm, add to that list UK and Asia too. In fact, I can't think of any that
break the trend :)

In #6-183 Randy Wilsher suggested:

> No matter how bad a band may be considered at the time, we all remember
with nostalgia the bands of our youth <

Thankfully not. Given that I was born in 1960, I guess that the 70s
encapsulates my youth, and I have very little fondness for anything prior
to 'punk'. This applies especially to the glam stuff, but there was a whole
bunch of other dreadful stuff populating the charts at the time (anyone
remember David Dundas, for example??)

In #6-187 David Smith proferred:

> check out the b-sides - especially from the 70s and 80s (before it became
customary to put the "remix" - ie, the SAME F*CKING SONG on the b-side <

In the days when I used to buy/listen to singles (started in about 1977 and
gave up on them roughly five years later) I would always listen to both
sides. The Jam were especially good at hiding gems on B-sides, with
Butterfly Collector my favourite, and one of my fave Jam tracks of all time

In #6-194 Klaus Bergmaier included in his list of favourite tracks by
album:

> BE: I Remeber the Sun/Washaway (are CD bonus tracks allowed?) <

Those bonus tracks were also available on the cassette version of Big
Express, which was released contemporaneously (note to the language
fascists: so, it's a polysyllabic word, and four or five shorter words
would do the same job. Live with it, look it up, or simply ignore me - your
choice) with the vinyl LP version, so I say go for it :)

In #6-195 James Ferrell came up with a couple of new list ideas:

> Bands that peaked with their first release <

I would say the vast majority, especially when it comes to the punk bands
of my youth - but then most of them didn't manage to record more than one
or two albums anyway, so I guess that they don't count. Of those bands that
have a more significant back catalogue I'd nominate Devo, Ian Dury, The
Fixx, Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark, Tom Petty, Siouxsie And The
Banshees and arguably Elvis Costello, The Clash and Joe Jackson too,
although I realise that others may not have the same emotional attachments
to those particular first albums and that said emotions may be clouding my
judgement

> Bands that peaked with their last release <

Almost impossible to think of any with a notable body of work - I guess
that it is almost inevitable that a band/artist goes on producing records
even after they've lost the plot.

James then went on to nominate

> Simon and Garfunkle <

I take it that you are referring to Bridge Over Troubled Water, and I
therefore have to disagree. Artie's production has always annoyed me, and
that record was the high (ie. low) point for me. Thank goodness Paul got
out from under him and went on to make some decent stuff thereafter

and Tom Kingston suggested the following in his list of bands that suck:

> The Sex Pistols (Man, I'm gonna get flack for that one!  But if you stop
to think about it......) <

The Pistols are most certainly one of the most overrated bands of all time
(here in the UK, Channel 4 recently ran a series of programs on the Top 10
bands in various genres, which gave The Pistols the top spot in their
selection of Punk bands - give me a break) but the original line-up did
produce some good stuff (at the very least, the first three singles and
much of Never Mind The Bollocks)

and Sarah D stated:

> the only Spear I like is Roger <

What about Burning??

In #6-196 Keith Walker proffered:

> Remember, they have been taught according to standards that have been
increasingly lowered over the past twenty years <

Presumably the standards of twenty years ago didn't include the concept of
paragraphs then?? <gd&r>

(Oh, and it's a given that every generation thinks that the subsequent
generation is less than they were, in some way, and that their pop music is
awful - and I'll admit to being guilty in that regard, although I never
much liked the pop music of my own generation)

Bands/artists who lost the plot:

Genesis
Mike Oldfield
Sting (Brand New Day is simply abysmal)
Paul Weller

and perhaps even:

Elvis Costello (I know that some folk loved Painted From Memory, but ...)
Jethro Tull (maybe it's just me, but none of the recent stuff does it for
me)

Penultimately, to return to one or two old favourites of recent digests:

Got Wasp Star for my birthday, and played it three or four times whilst we
were away on our summer holiday on the Isle Of Wight. FWIW by the final
play of our trip my children (rising ten, seven and four) were singing
along to 'Playground', 'I'm The Man ...' and 'We're All Light'. For some
reason 'Stupidly Happy' didn't feature, and it was definitely ITMWML that
was the most popular, being requested for a repeat after all but the first
listen to the CD. Even my three year old was singing along, albeit that the
'whaddya think to that' was sung in a cod American accent, for some reason
<shrug>

and if the those aliens really insisted that I could only have five CDs I'd
choose:

Roy Harper - Live At Les Cousins
XTC - Fossil Fuel
Nick Drake - Way To Blue
Billy Bragg - Victim Of Geography
Sade - Stronger Than Pride

(in all but the latter case these are not necessarily my faves by the
artist concerned, but a good way of getting the maximum music in those five
jewel cases. Oh, and I'd try and sneak The Undertones - True Confessions
into my bag)

As to recommendations, well I'm swamped ATM because I went out on my
fortieth birthday (5th July) and bought 40 CDs. Normally I refuse to pay
more than eight quid (twelve bucks, or so) for a CD, except for the latest
releases from a very select few artists, but I decided that I'd treat
myself in an attempt to fill various gaps in my collection. First
impressions of the latest releases that I bought:

Catatonia (Equally Cursed And Blessed) - fun pop tunes and that voice. Buy
it

Tracy Chapman (Telling Stories) - not her best, but better than the last
(and no, I can't be more vague)

Eurythmics (Peace) - not their best, either, but a few good tunes

Nick Harper (Harperspace) - much less intrusive production than
Smithereens. I like it
Kirsty MacColl (Tropical Brainstorm) - another fun record. My son loves
'England 2 Columbia 0' but 'Treachery' is the track that made me smile the
most. Buy this one too

Tom Petty (Echo) - disappointing, but by no means a complete disaster

Steely Dan (Two Against Nature) - the jury is still out on this one. ATM I
don't get it, but I haven't given up yet

Sting (Brand New Day) - I know that Sting bashing seems to be a popular
sport here on Chalkhills, but I can live with much of his solo stuff (my
wife likes him, and since our tastes only coincide for about 10% of the CDs
I own it gets played a fair bit), and there are certainly some real gems in
the previous releases. Only one word for this clunker though - avoid

Suzanne Vega (Nine Objects Of Desire) - OK, so this one's old news, but I'd
not previously seen it sufficiently discounted. Not as good as '99 F
degrees' but worth the price of admission
XTC (Wasp Star) - the dog's testes, and best of the bunch. Buy two

Of the older stuff that I picked up I'd also like to highlight

The Beat (I Just Can't Stop It) - I'd forgotten how much this makes me want
to move my arse (and I'm Norwegian from the waist down too)

Girls At Our Best (Pleasure) - this lot don't even count as one hit
wonders, but I love this record

The Gist (Embrace The Herd) - haven't heard this for years. I'd always
considered it to be very much second best to the Young Marble Giants, but
it is surprisingly good stuff in a similar vein (which is no great shock
given that Stuart Moxham was the guiding light in both bands)

Tom Robinson (Hope And Glory - apparently retitled as War Baby) - another
record that I haven't listened to since getting a CD autochanger for the
car, but I love it and the bonus tracks are good too (and where they
belong, on the end of the original recording)

Tubeway Army - can't stand anything that Gary Numan has done solo, but this
album is a little gem, and the CD version comes with a lo-fi recording of
an early gig that really puts TA in context (no synths, just guitar, bass
and drums and a slightly punky feel)

The Vapors (Turning Japanese) - Andy may write brilliant penis paeans but
the title track has to be the best ever song about the five fingered
shuffle

The Waitresses (King Biscuit Flower Hour) - as recommended by another
Chalkhillian. A little raw, sound wise, but it fills in many of the gaps in
the Best Of collection AFAIC

Finally (you'll be glad to read, no doubt) a couple of observations in
relation to Wasp Star:

XTC are the one and only band, with any kind of significant presence in my
record collection, that I consider never to have released a bad album, nor
indeed all that many poor individual tracks. I was a little apprehensive,
given some of the negative comments I'd read here, but I need not have
been. It took me half a dozen listens to really grok AV1 in its entirety,
but volume two simply grabbed me by the nadgers and refused to let go. So
much to enjoy, and I love it all.

Anyone else hear shades of Lovestruck by Madness in 'In Another Life'??
That similarity struck me far more forcibly than the Barrytown one, which I
really had to listen for, and which now passes me by completely when not
explicitly looking for it.

In 'My Brown Guitar' Andy sings 'in my yard'. Now AFAIC, given the context,
that strikes me as an Americanism (I would never refer to my garden as a
yard. A yard is three feet, pure and simple). Is this a regional variation
thang?? Any Swindonians care to comment on 'yard' in local usage to mean
garden (as opposed to a builder's yard, for instance)?? Is Andy's back
garden concreted over (being the only state that I might countenance using
yard in that way)??

Cheers, Steve

NP: Wasp Star, funnily enough. In the course of putting this together I've
probably had at least a dozen different CDs in the player, none of them
XTC, but at the moment that I'm signing off it is AV2 that has come to the
top of the pile. Previous: The Cure - The Top; Next: Joe Jackson - Night
Music.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:16:54 -0500
From: Ned <nedrise@MNSi.Net>
Subject: Wasted Days and Wasted Nights
Message-ID: <39787771.F5136A4F@mnsi.net>

>PS - Who sang "Wild Fire"?<

    Michael Murphy was the felon, I believe.

>PPS - Remember Freddie Fender?<

Only too well   -->  see subject line.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:11:17 +0100
From: SPitts@thesaurus-computers.co.uk
Subject: ... But I Do
Message-ID: <OFE0AC6ABF.AD8ABE34-ON80256923.004E44EF@thesaurus-computers.co.uk>

Chalkfolks,

Wouldn't you know it. Finally get caught up, send off that massive missive,
and then moments later another Chalkhinstallment drops through the virtual
letter box.

In #6-199 Smudgeboy spake thusly of the Knack:

> I have to admit I like "My Sherona" [...] Never heard anything else by
The Knack though - a true one hit wonder in the UK <

Nah, I thought the follow up (or was it the predecessor??) 'Good Girls
Don't' was a minor hit too?? Can't check, though, 'cos I'm at work.

Cheers, Steve

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:16:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: nross <PhoenixYellowRose@rocketmail.com>
Subject: WPST memories
Message-ID: <20000721151609.21964.qmail@web2906.mail.yahoo.com>

Jeffrey Thomas wrote this gem of a memory:

>>>>>> In the early 80s, a station in NJ, USA (I think it was WPST),
in a laudable effort to purge the music-loving world of its demons,
played this song for 8 or 12 or 16 or 24 hours straight, I don't
remember.  Nothing else, just Seasons in the Sun.  All I remember is,
it was *loooooonnng*, and it was hideous.  At the end of this stint,
the DJ went for a walk, live on the air, up to the roof of the
building...and threw the record off of the roof, to shatter and die --
forever -- on the ground.  And it was never heard again.  One of the
great moments of this century in live radio.<<<<<

PST... it had to be PST, but there was a philly station that, in the
early 80's had a similar incident. I dunno, was it WCAU?

Well, anyways I guess the DJ went a little crazy and decided to play
"Valley Girl" for hours. I heard that he had locked the doors and sort
of barrackaded himself in so no one could get into the room to force
the record off. He ended up having to go on "vacation".

It may be an annoying song... enough to drive a person nuts, but hey I
love it.

-Nicole

=====
Nicole's internet music station:
http://radio.sonicnet.com/mymusiclisten.asp?name=phoenixyellowrose

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:25:41 -0400
From: David Gershman <dagersh@pobox.com>
Subject: Beatles and such
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000721112541.00963ab0@smtp.netway.com>

Derek said, for some strange reason:
>Similar to the Monkees, I feel the Beatles work is more like a bell
>curve.

The Beatles, similar to the Monkees? On what planet?

>But in this case, I arrived at my conclusion academically.

Usually a bad idea, when you're talking about music.

>I've read several critiques of the Beatles' work, and I agree with
>those who chart an upward creative progress to Sgt. Pepper and then
>take them downward to the end. For some reason, this seems right to
>me. I chalk it up to their declining ability to self-edit themselves
>(pre-Pepper, only "Wait" was resuscitated after being rejected, but
>all the outtakes from Pepper were handed over to the "Yellow
>Submarine" people; the late 1967 sessions of the Beatles are rife
>with unreleasable jam sessions) and the diverging spirit of their
>work.

"Rife with unreleasable jam sessions," contrary to your point, actually
indicates that they *were* editing themselves. They didn't stick them all
on their albums, now did they? Every band has studio jams that they goof
around with, most of which go unreleased. The "diverging spirit of their
work" actually added a lot of variety and interesting tensions to their
later albums -- some people consider the White Album to be their best, in
fact. (I personally lean more toward "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver" as my
favorites, though not for the reasons you express above. I love their later
stuff as well.)

>I know many people will disagree with me, but I think Abbey
>Road shows the Beatles giving in to some musical trends that I find
>annoying in a lot of post-Beatles rock.

"Giving in to some musical trends..."? I'd say *creating* some musical
trends is more like it. You can hardly blame a band for something that then
spawns later bad or excessive imitations. Which pre-existing "trends" are
you referring to, anyway?

>I once read a commentary that
>slagged "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" as the harbinger of bloated
>70s guitar rock. That's an inflamatory statement, but one I thought
>was pretty much right.

Well, I won't say that I'm a huge fan of that song either, but again,
blaming it/George for what came later doesn't quite seem like a valid
criticism...

On an entirely different matter, can we *please* stop treating Andy's "The
List" choices like they were some sort of divine revelation? All three of
his choices, at least to those of us older than 25 or so, were pretty
obvious. They don't really qualify for the in-depth analysis that I've been
seeing some people try to impose on them. This reverence seems kind of
silly -- I can just hear someone saying, 5 years down the road, "Well, as
we now know thanks to the wisdom of Andy Partridge, 'My Way' has been among
the most overplayed songs of all time." I don't know, I suppose it's
equally silly of me to be getting bothered by this, but I am, so there,
I've said it.

-- Dave Gershman

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:50:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: brown <mb2@deltanet.com>
Subject: The funky chicken dance/a new thread(?)
Message-ID: <200007211550.IAA03183@mail2.deltanet.com>

>From C C -aka- Todd-
<<Uhm, can I invite myself over the next time you light up the tiki torches?
I'll show you and your husband how someone of mixed Scandahoovian blood
(Norwegian/Swedish) tries to swing from the 'waist down' to the Duke.  It's
not a pretty sight.
I'll bring some lutefisk to keep the bugs away.>>

You is always welcome, Todd!  Keep next Saturday open.

Factoid-
The dance that would later be known as 'the robot', was actually invented at
a Toloffson family reunion... (at the 87' reunion my husband's great-uncle
Olof fractured his femur while attempting to break it down to 'Let's Groove'
by Earth, Wind & Fire)... Fortunately we were able to reduce the pain and
swelling by applying copious amounts of lutefisk...

Lutefisk also makes a great car wax, stain remover, and non-Scandinavian
guest repellant.. put a plate of lutefisk out at your next dinner party and
watch 'em scramble for the door!
- - -
Ed said-
<< I've lost plenty of logical arguments in my
time, but I've generally been able to walk away unassisted afterward,
usually better for the experience.>>

Ed, I'd like you to meet Mr. Diablo..
- - -
New thread suggestion:
Has anyone thought about which WS song you'd like to see up on the little
screen?  I'm talking about a music vid, guys.  Which tune would you like to
see and how do you see it?  Be as sketchy or detailed as you wish.  Pepper
the digest with your ideas..
Come on!.. I guarantee you'll enjoy yourself, or my name isn't Frank-

Tripling productivity with a wave of my hand,

Debora Brown

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:18:34 EDT
From: RblTrouser@aol.com
Subject: DMX???
Message-ID: <74.15cda03.26a9d1da@aol.com>

The esteemed Mr. Joeaster writes:

<Let me know what you think about DMSuX.>

I can olny quote what my friend Chris said about him once whilst we were
involved in a heady philosophical debate on the integrity of his "music"...
"DMX has the IQ of a BMX shoved up a donkey's XXX"
I retire and ask for forgiveness,
Sarah D

XTC content: umm...XTC fockin rawks!

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:28:25 EDT
From: Chauncy14@aol.com
Subject: Alien Abduction/X Files...
Message-ID: <6b.74aff2c.26a9d429@aol.com>

Hello Clan,

My take of CD's after the abduction:

First, I would like to have Scully abducted too...just for fun!

1) Dave Grusin, The Gershwin Collection
2) Yellowjackets, Politics
3)  Herbie Hancock, Empireon Isles
4)  XTC, Black Sea
5)  Elvis Costello, Spike

Best regards,
John Gardner
Beautiful and Sunny Chicago

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